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samantha607

29.12.2007, 18:42

Hair is Thicker (Anemia & Hair Loss)
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I have to report my preliminary results. My ferritin is higher than it's been in 2 years. The last level was 98, and I have been using topical and oral spiro. I think those things have contributed to the new growth in my front hairline area. But I don't think those are the reasons my hair is generally thicker.

I went to a doc who practices this thing called NET and she told me that the hair would just get thicker, rather than seeing a lot of new hairs. I thought it sounded pretty weird, but I was desperate, as you all can relate to. SO the hairline in front has tons of little new hairs. But the top part that was SOOOO awful is thicker. No little hairs, well just a few, and the new ones are not short, they look like they have been there a while. The balding areas don't look as thin. I have started wearing my hair in my old style now, before I was afraid to use the styling tools because I was afraid I would lose it all.

I know it sounds far-fetched, but who can argue with results? It can't be the ferritin/spiro alone, or I would have lots of teeny hairs where it is thicker, and I don't.

http://www.netmindbody.com/practitioners.html

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nomoresheds

30.12.2007, 08:28

@ samantha607
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ť I have to report my preliminary results. My ferritin is higher than it's
ť been in 2 years. The last level was 98, and I have been using topical and
ť oral spiro. I think those things have contributed to the new growth in my
ť front hairline area. But I don't think those are the reasons my hair is
ť generally thicker.
ť
ť I went to a doc who practices this thing called NET and she told me that
ť the hair would just get thicker, rather than seeing a lot of new hairs. I
ť thought it sounded pretty weird, but I was desperate, as you all can
ť relate to. SO the hairline in front has tons of little new hairs. But the
ť top part that was SOOOO awful is thicker. No little hairs, well just a
ť few, and the new ones are not short, they look like they have been there a
ť while. The balding areas don't look as thin. I have started wearing my hair
ť in my old style now, before I was afraid to use the styling tools because I
ť was afraid I would lose it all.
ť
ť I know it sounds far-fetched, but who can argue with results? It can't be
ť the ferritin/spiro alone, or I would have lots of teeny hairs where it is
ť thicker, and I don't.

My hair seems thicker too. I check the diameter. I attribute this to iron supplements though. I'm just relieved that it seems to be overall more dense at this point. Low iron can also mimic aga re hair diameter so it's possible I suppose for the iron the resolve that. I'm glad you are able to go back to styling your hair again. I do remember a time where I was afraid to even brush my hair after washing it. Styling it was horrible. Imagine trying to do that with hardly running a brush through your hair! Whatever we can find that works it fantastic.

ť
ť http://www.netmindbody.com/practitioners.html

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steph

30.12.2007, 13:43

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What does your hair loss look like? Is there a pattern?

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samantha607

02.01.2008, 01:06

@ nomoresheds
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Nomoresheds, that is so interesting. My ferritin went up before the NET but was still pretty close in time. SO how are you measuring the diameter? And how big a difference are you seeing with the higher ferritin? I also wonder how high yours is. Mine was last 98. Thank you!

My hair seems thicker too. I check the diameter. I attribute this to
ť iron supplements though. I'm just relieved that it seems to be overall
ť more dense at this point. Low iron can also mimic aga re hair diameter so
ť it's possible I suppose for the iron the resolve that. I'm glad you are
ť able to go back to styling your hair again. I do remember a time where I
ť was afraid to even brush my hair after washing it. Styling it was
ť horrible. Imagine trying to do that with hardly running a brush through
ť your hair! Whatever we can find that works it fantastic.
ť

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samantha607

02.01.2008, 01:07

@ steph
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Steph, It is an AGA pattern, mostly loss on top of the head. My hairline has been having new growth the whole time, oddly enough.

ť What does your hair loss look like? Is there a pattern?

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steph

03.01.2008, 09:51

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Samantha607, I'm pleased you are getting some positive results.
The reason I ask what your pattern is, there seems to be some confusion over what professionals class as AGA. I was told by a derm that I have it, but by a trichologist that I don't, and it is due to low ferritin.
But thanks to the derm I am already on anti androgen therapy, and am scared to come off, for fear of a hormonal shed. I am also on iron supplements. My hair loss is diffuse, most noticable at the temples where the hairs are white and sparse, There is less hair all over. I don't tie my hair back, it looks receded to me. I just don't know what to do anymore, nothing is working. Been battling this for over three years now.

steph is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

nomoresheds

03.01.2008, 13:07

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ť Nomoresheds, that is so interesting. My ferritin went up before the NET but
ť was still pretty close in time. SO how are you measuring the diameter? And
ť how big a difference are you seeing with the higher ferritin? I also
ť wonder how high yours is. Mine was last 98. Thank you!
ť
ť My hair seems thicker too. I check the diameter. I attribute this to
ť ť iron supplements though. I'm just relieved that it seems to be overall
ť ť more dense at this point. Low iron can also mimic aga re hair diameter
ť so
ť ť it's possible I suppose for the iron the resolve that. I'm glad you
ť are
ť ť able to go back to styling your hair again. I do remember a time where
ť I
ť ť was afraid to even brush my hair after washing it. Styling it was
ť ť horrible. Imagine trying to do that with hardly running a brush
ť through
ť ť your hair! Whatever we can find that works it fantastic.
ť ť

I am eyeballing my hair. The ones that fall out I was (for a while) comparing to what I had on my head to see it they were thinner or the same. I definitely had some thinner ones. I also had some that were thinner at the midpoint and got thicker. The hairs that still look weaker to me are the ones growing in at the temple.

My ferritin has been a problem to raise. I was 43 at last count and will get a recount soon since I am overdue and I slowed the ferritin use too.

nomoresheds is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

samantha607

03.01.2008, 22:37

@ steph
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Steph, That sounds confusing. What is your ferritin level? From the reading I have done, I don't think that sounds like classic AGA. Maybe you need another opinion.

ť Samantha607, I'm pleased you are getting some positive results.
ť The reason I ask what your pattern is, there seems to be some confusion
ť over what professionals class as AGA. I was told by a derm that I have it,
ť but by a trichologist that I don't, and it is due to low ferritin.
ť But thanks to the derm I am already on anti androgen therapy, and am
ť scared to come off, for fear of a hormonal shed. I am also on iron
ť supplements. My hair loss is diffuse, most noticable at the temples where
ť the hairs are white and sparse, There is less hair all over. I don't tie
ť my hair back, it looks receded to me. I just don't know what to do
ť anymore, nothing is working. Been battling this for over three years now.

samantha607 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

samantha607

03.01.2008, 22:42

@ nomoresheds
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Nomoresheds, you must have better vision than me. I haven't noticed a difference in diameter, but maybe I haven't been looking. I will pay attention now, though I am not sure how it looked before.

A ferritin in the 40's is still on the low side, isn't it? I finally raised mine by taking Vitamin C with liver pills. I had low iron for 2 years; the first year I was unaware that was the problem. The second year I couldn't riase the level.

ť ť Nomoresheds, that is so interesting. My ferritin went up before the NET
ť but
ť ť was still pretty close in time. SO how are you measuring the diameter?
ť And
ť ť how big a difference are you seeing with the higher ferritin? I also
ť ť wonder how high yours is. Mine was last 98. Thank you!
ť ť
ť ť My hair seems thicker too. I check the diameter. I attribute this to
ť ť ť iron supplements though. I'm just relieved that it seems to be
ť overall
ť ť ť more dense at this point. Low iron can also mimic aga re hair
ť diameter
ť ť so
ť ť ť it's possible I suppose for the iron the resolve that. I'm glad you
ť ť are
ť ť ť able to go back to styling your hair again. I do remember a time
ť where
ť ť I
ť ť ť was afraid to even brush my hair after washing it. Styling it was
ť ť ť horrible. Imagine trying to do that with hardly running a brush
ť ť through
ť ť ť your hair! Whatever we can find that works it fantastic.
ť ť ť
ť
ť I am eyeballing my hair. The ones that fall out I was (for a while)
ť comparing to what I had on my head to see it they were thinner or the
ť same. I definitely had some thinner ones. I also had some that were
ť thinner at the midpoint and got thicker. The hairs that still look weaker
ť to me are the ones growing in at the temple.
ť
ť My ferritin has been a problem to raise. I was 43 at last count and will
ť get a recount soon since I am overdue and I slowed the ferritin use too.

samantha607 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

nomoresheds

04.01.2008, 08:06

@ samantha607
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Yes, I think 40's is probably too low since they say you need 70 or higher. I'm afraid to take too much since it's been a while since I got the labs and I don't want to give myself a heart attack. I will probably find out I am in the 20s when I get it done since that is what happened to me last time. It dropped as soon as I lowered my dose. It only went up when I used molasses and C with the supplement.

The density of my hair is less but I don't know if it's less hair or same amount of hair with thinner hairs. Maybe both.

It sounds obsessive and probably is but for a while I was comparing hair strands. I stopped when it started to appear more normal to me.

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steph

04.01.2008, 10:10

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My ferritin at the last test was 47, and I know this is too low as I have been told to get it over 100. It has been higher, but since having a go at veganism and then vegetarianism over the summer, I don't think that helped matters. I noticed I had less hair since early 2005, and would have hoped that things would have corrected themselves by now. My mother has diffuse thin hair, almost see through. My grandmother's was fine too. But I had always had such an abundance of the stuff; I'd never heard of hereditary hair loss until I started to read stuff on the internet! But the loss is definitely diffuse, with grey, sparse temples and a hairline that looks receding. This is not AGA, but low iron? Does anyone else have any thoughts or opinions on this? Don't know which way to turn anymore; don't know who to believe. I seem to have trouble absorbing iron. Can the inability to absorb iron be genetic? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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Carly75

04.01.2008, 11:19

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Hi Steph

I am sorry that you have not been seeing improvement - how long have you been on the Androcur now? With regards to the iron, how old are you? If you're pre-menopause and you have heavy periods that may be the reason you are not able to maintain your iron levels?

From your description, I have a similar pattern to you apart from my very sparse temples are not grey.

Do you still shed a lot of hair?

All the best

ť My ferritin at the last test was 47, and I know this is too low as I have
ť been told to get it over 100. It has been higher, but since having a go at
ť veganism and then vegetarianism over the summer, I don't think that helped
ť matters. I noticed I had less hair since early 2005, and would have hoped
ť that things would have corrected themselves by now. My mother has diffuse
ť thin hair, almost see through. My grandmother's was fine too. But I had
ť always had such an abundance of the stuff; I'd never heard of hereditary
ť hair loss until I started to read stuff on the internet! But the loss is
ť definitely diffuse, with grey, sparse temples and a hairline that looks
ť receding. This is not AGA, but low iron? Does anyone else have any
ť thoughts or opinions on this? Don't know which way to turn anymore; don't
ť know who to believe. I seem to have trouble absorbing iron. Can the
ť inability to absorb iron be genetic? Any thoughts would be greatly
ť appreciated.

Carly75 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

steph

04.01.2008, 11:26

@ Carly75
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Hi Carly

Thanks for your reply.
I have been on the Androcur and Dianette since August 2006. I honestly think
I'd be in the same position if I'd never taken anything. I'm not shedding much at the moment - it was hundreds a day until recently, but I know my ferritin had dipped a few months ago. I upped my iron intake, so that must have helped. What have you been told about 'sparse temples'? (Sounds like a bizzare conversation we're having!) What is your diagnosis?

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steph

04.01.2008, 11:27

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Sorry, Carly..
Just read your post again - I am 41.

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Carly75

04.01.2008, 11:40

@ steph
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I don't really have a diagnosis because I have quite a lot going on (hypothyroidism, iron deficiency, borderline pcos) so it's hard for anyone to say for sure. Different Drs I have seen attribute it to different things.

My hair didn't get a chance to recover from the low iron because as soon as I got it up, my hair started shedding because of the thyroid.

The only thing I have been told about sparse temples is that it's due to the PCOS. Not sure if (or don't want to believe) that's true though because people seem to lose their temple hair in TE too.

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steph

04.01.2008, 11:49

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Thanks Carly. That's quite encouraging, though, because at least if causes are indentified, you can work towards getting better and there is a possibility of hair recovery.

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Carly75

04.01.2008, 12:02

@ steph
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Thanks for your reply, Steph. Unfortunately, even though I have more or less corrected the problems (for now) I am seeing nothing in terms of improvement.

I hope you can get your iron back up soon and that you start to see some regrowth.

ť Thanks Carly. That's quite encouraging, though, because at least if causes
ť are indentified, you can work towards getting better and there is a
ť possibility of hair recovery.

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nomoresheds

04.01.2008, 13:04

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ť My ferritin at the last test was 47, and I know this is too low as I have
ť been told to get it over 100. It has been higher, but since having a go at
ť veganism and then vegetarianism over the summer, I don't think that helped
ť matters. I noticed I had less hair since early 2005, and would have hoped
ť that things would have corrected themselves by now. My mother has diffuse
ť thin hair, almost see through. My grandmother's was fine too. But I had
ť always had such an abundance of the stuff; I'd never heard of hereditary
ť hair loss until I started to read stuff on the internet! But the loss is
ť definitely diffuse, with grey, sparse temples and a hairline that looks
ť receding. This is not AGA, but low iron? Does anyone else have any
ť thoughts or opinions on this? Don't know which way to turn anymore; don't
ť know who to believe. I seem to have trouble absorbing iron. Can the
ť inability to absorb iron be genetic? Any thoughts would be greatly
ť appreciated.

I think over age 35 you can lose some ability to absorb iron. I had lost quite a bit in the temple area too.

nomoresheds is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

nikita21

10.09.2008, 08:09

@ Carly75
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ť I don't really have a diagnosis because I have quite a lot going on
ť (hypothyroidism, iron deficiency, borderline pcos) so it's hard for anyone
ť to say for sure. Different Drs I have seen attribute it to different
ť things.
ť
ť My hair didn't get a chance to recover from the low iron because as soon
ť as I got it up, my hair started shedding because of the thyroid.
ť
ť The only thing I have been told about sparse temples is that it's due to
ť the PCOS. Not sure if (or don't want to believe) that's true though
ť because people seem to lose their temple hair in TE too.

Carly,
just wondering where you are at now and how is your hair and what have you been doing for it? Your undiagnosed problems seem to be similar to my situation. I have PCOS symptoms and hypothyroid symptoms and a ferritin level of 29. Any info would be GREATLY appreciated!

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samantha607 29.12.2007, 18:42	Hair is Thicker (Anemia & Hair Loss) Post reply
	I have to report my preliminary results. My ferritin is higher than it's been in 2 years. The last level was 98, and I have been using topical and oral spiro. I think those things have contributed to the new growth in my front hairline area. But I don't think those are the reasons my hair is generally thicker. I went to a doc who practices this thing called NET and she told me that the hair would just get thicker, rather than seeing a lot of new hairs. I thought it sounded pretty weird, but I was desperate, as you all can relate to. SO the hairline in front has tons of little new hairs. But the top part that was SOOOO awful is thicker. No little hairs, well just a few, and the new ones are not short, they look like they have been there a while. The balding areas don't look as thin. I have started wearing my hair in my old style now, before I was afraid to use the styling tools because I was afraid I would lose it all. I know it sounds far-fetched, but who can argue with results? It can't be the ferritin/spiro alone, or I would have lots of teeny hairs where it is thicker, and I don't. http://www.netmindbody.com/practitioners.html samantha607 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
nomoresheds 30.12.2007, 08:28 @ samantha607	Hair is Thicker Post reply
	ť I have to report my preliminary results. My ferritin is higher than it's ť been in 2 years. The last level was 98, and I have been using topical and ť oral spiro. I think those things have contributed to the new growth in my ť front hairline area. But I don't think those are the reasons my hair is ť generally thicker. ť ť I went to a doc who practices this thing called NET and she told me that ť the hair would just get thicker, rather than seeing a lot of new hairs. I ť thought it sounded pretty weird, but I was desperate, as you all can ť relate to. SO the hairline in front has tons of little new hairs. But the ť top part that was SOOOO awful is thicker. No little hairs, well just a ť few, and the new ones are not short, they look like they have been there a ť while. The balding areas don't look as thin. I have started wearing my hair ť in my old style now, before I was afraid to use the styling tools because I ť was afraid I would lose it all. ť ť I know it sounds far-fetched, but who can argue with results? It can't be ť the ferritin/spiro alone, or I would have lots of teeny hairs where it is ť thicker, and I don't. My hair seems thicker too. I check the diameter. I attribute this to iron supplements though. I'm just relieved that it seems to be overall more dense at this point. Low iron can also mimic aga re hair diameter so it's possible I suppose for the iron the resolve that. I'm glad you are able to go back to styling your hair again. I do remember a time where I was afraid to even brush my hair after washing it. Styling it was horrible. Imagine trying to do that with hardly running a brush through your hair! Whatever we can find that works it fantastic. ť ť http://www.netmindbody.com/practitioners.html nomoresheds is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
steph 30.12.2007, 13:43 @ nomoresheds	Hair is Thicker Post reply
	What does your hair loss look like? Is there a pattern? steph is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
samantha607 02.01.2008, 01:06 @ nomoresheds	Hair is Thicker Post reply
	Nomoresheds, that is so interesting. My ferritin went up before the NET but was still pretty close in time. SO how are you measuring the diameter? And how big a difference are you seeing with the higher ferritin? I also wonder how high yours is. Mine was last 98. Thank you! My hair seems thicker too. I check the diameter. I attribute this to ť iron supplements though. I'm just relieved that it seems to be overall ť more dense at this point. Low iron can also mimic aga re hair diameter so ť it's possible I suppose for the iron the resolve that. I'm glad you are ť able to go back to styling your hair again. I do remember a time where I ť was afraid to even brush my hair after washing it. Styling it was ť horrible. Imagine trying to do that with hardly running a brush through ť your hair! Whatever we can find that works it fantastic. ť samantha607 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
samantha607 02.01.2008, 01:07 @ steph	Hair is Thicker Post reply
	Steph, It is an AGA pattern, mostly loss on top of the head. My hairline has been having new growth the whole time, oddly enough. ť What does your hair loss look like? Is there a pattern? samantha607 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
steph 03.01.2008, 09:51 @ samantha607	Hair is Thicker Post reply
	Samantha607, I'm pleased you are getting some positive results. The reason I ask what your pattern is, there seems to be some confusion over what professionals class as AGA. I was told by a derm that I have it, but by a trichologist that I don't, and it is due to low ferritin. But thanks to the derm I am already on anti androgen therapy, and am scared to come off, for fear of a hormonal shed. I am also on iron supplements. My hair loss is diffuse, most noticable at the temples where the hairs are white and sparse, There is less hair all over. I don't tie my hair back, it looks receded to me. I just don't know what to do anymore, nothing is working. Been battling this for over three years now. steph is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
nomoresheds 03.01.2008, 13:07 @ samantha607	Hair is Thicker Post reply
	ť Nomoresheds, that is so interesting. My ferritin went up before the NET but ť was still pretty close in time. SO how are you measuring the diameter? And ť how big a difference are you seeing with the higher ferritin? I also ť wonder how high yours is. Mine was last 98. Thank you! ť ť My hair seems thicker too. I check the diameter. I attribute this to ť ť iron supplements though. I'm just relieved that it seems to be overall ť ť more dense at this point. Low iron can also mimic aga re hair diameter ť so ť ť it's possible I suppose for the iron the resolve that. I'm glad you ť are ť ť able to go back to styling your hair again. I do remember a time where ť I ť ť was afraid to even brush my hair after washing it. Styling it was ť ť horrible. Imagine trying to do that with hardly running a brush ť through ť ť your hair! Whatever we can find that works it fantastic. ť ť I am eyeballing my hair. The ones that fall out I was (for a while) comparing to what I had on my head to see it they were thinner or the same. I definitely had some thinner ones. I also had some that were thinner at the midpoint and got thicker. The hairs that still look weaker to me are the ones growing in at the temple. My ferritin has been a problem to raise. I was 43 at last count and will get a recount soon since I am overdue and I slowed the ferritin use too. nomoresheds is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
samantha607 03.01.2008, 22:37 @ steph	Hair is Thicker Post reply
	Steph, That sounds confusing. What is your ferritin level? From the reading I have done, I don't think that sounds like classic AGA. Maybe you need another opinion. ť Samantha607, I'm pleased you are getting some positive results. ť The reason I ask what your pattern is, there seems to be some confusion ť over what professionals class as AGA. I was told by a derm that I have it, ť but by a trichologist that I don't, and it is due to low ferritin. ť But thanks to the derm I am already on anti androgen therapy, and am ť scared to come off, for fear of a hormonal shed. I am also on iron ť supplements. My hair loss is diffuse, most noticable at the temples where ť the hairs are white and sparse, There is less hair all over. I don't tie ť my hair back, it looks receded to me. I just don't know what to do ť anymore, nothing is working. Been battling this for over three years now. samantha607 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
samantha607 03.01.2008, 22:42 @ nomoresheds	Hair is Thicker Post reply
	Nomoresheds, you must have better vision than me. I haven't noticed a difference in diameter, but maybe I haven't been looking. I will pay attention now, though I am not sure how it looked before. A ferritin in the 40's is still on the low side, isn't it? I finally raised mine by taking Vitamin C with liver pills. I had low iron for 2 years; the first year I was unaware that was the problem. The second year I couldn't riase the level. ť ť Nomoresheds, that is so interesting. My ferritin went up before the NET ť but ť ť was still pretty close in time. SO how are you measuring the diameter? ť And ť ť how big a difference are you seeing with the higher ferritin? I also ť ť wonder how high yours is. Mine was last 98. Thank you! ť ť ť ť My hair seems thicker too. I check the diameter. I attribute this to ť ť ť iron supplements though. I'm just relieved that it seems to be ť overall ť ť ť more dense at this point. Low iron can also mimic aga re hair ť diameter ť ť so ť ť ť it's possible I suppose for the iron the resolve that. I'm glad you ť ť are ť ť ť able to go back to styling your hair again. I do remember a time ť where ť ť I ť ť ť was afraid to even brush my hair after washing it. Styling it was ť ť ť horrible. Imagine trying to do that with hardly running a brush ť ť through ť ť ť your hair! Whatever we can find that works it fantastic. ť ť ť ť ť I am eyeballing my hair. The ones that fall out I was (for a while) ť comparing to what I had on my head to see it they were thinner or the ť same. I definitely had some thinner ones. I also had some that were ť thinner at the midpoint and got thicker. The hairs that still look weaker ť to me are the ones growing in at the temple. ť ť My ferritin has been a problem to raise. I was 43 at last count and will ť get a recount soon since I am overdue and I slowed the ferritin use too. samantha607 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
nomoresheds 04.01.2008, 08:06 @ samantha607	Hair is Thicker Post reply
	Yes, I think 40's is probably too low since they say you need 70 or higher. I'm afraid to take too much since it's been a while since I got the labs and I don't want to give myself a heart attack. I will probably find out I am in the 20s when I get it done since that is what happened to me last time. It dropped as soon as I lowered my dose. It only went up when I used molasses and C with the supplement. The density of my hair is less but I don't know if it's less hair or same amount of hair with thinner hairs. Maybe both. It sounds obsessive and probably is but for a while I was comparing hair strands. I stopped when it started to appear more normal to me. nomoresheds is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
steph 04.01.2008, 10:10 @ nomoresheds	To samanta607 Post reply
	My ferritin at the last test was 47, and I know this is too low as I have been told to get it over 100. It has been higher, but since having a go at veganism and then vegetarianism over the summer, I don't think that helped matters. I noticed I had less hair since early 2005, and would have hoped that things would have corrected themselves by now. My mother has diffuse thin hair, almost see through. My grandmother's was fine too. But I had always had such an abundance of the stuff; I'd never heard of hereditary hair loss until I started to read stuff on the internet! But the loss is definitely diffuse, with grey, sparse temples and a hairline that looks receding. This is not AGA, but low iron? Does anyone else have any thoughts or opinions on this? Don't know which way to turn anymore; don't know who to believe. I seem to have trouble absorbing iron. Can the inability to absorb iron be genetic? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. steph is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
Carly75 04.01.2008, 11:19 @ steph	To samanta607 Post reply
	Hi Steph I am sorry that you have not been seeing improvement - how long have you been on the Androcur now? With regards to the iron, how old are you? If you're pre-menopause and you have heavy periods that may be the reason you are not able to maintain your iron levels? From your description, I have a similar pattern to you apart from my very sparse temples are not grey. Do you still shed a lot of hair? All the best ť My ferritin at the last test was 47, and I know this is too low as I have ť been told to get it over 100. It has been higher, but since having a go at ť veganism and then vegetarianism over the summer, I don't think that helped ť matters. I noticed I had less hair since early 2005, and would have hoped ť that things would have corrected themselves by now. My mother has diffuse ť thin hair, almost see through. My grandmother's was fine too. But I had ť always had such an abundance of the stuff; I'd never heard of hereditary ť hair loss until I started to read stuff on the internet! But the loss is ť definitely diffuse, with grey, sparse temples and a hairline that looks ť receding. This is not AGA, but low iron? Does anyone else have any ť thoughts or opinions on this? Don't know which way to turn anymore; don't ť know who to believe. I seem to have trouble absorbing iron. Can the ť inability to absorb iron be genetic? Any thoughts would be greatly ť appreciated. Carly75 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
steph 04.01.2008, 11:26 @ Carly75	To samanta607 Post reply
	Hi Carly Thanks for your reply. I have been on the Androcur and Dianette since August 2006. I honestly think I'd be in the same position if I'd never taken anything. I'm not shedding much at the moment - it was hundreds a day until recently, but I know my ferritin had dipped a few months ago. I upped my iron intake, so that must have helped. What have you been told about 'sparse temples'? (Sounds like a bizzare conversation we're having!) What is your diagnosis? steph is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
steph 04.01.2008, 11:27 @ steph	To Carly Post reply
	Sorry, Carly.. Just read your post again - I am 41. steph is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
Carly75 04.01.2008, 11:40 @ steph	To Carly Post reply
	I don't really have a diagnosis because I have quite a lot going on (hypothyroidism, iron deficiency, borderline pcos) so it's hard for anyone to say for sure. Different Drs I have seen attribute it to different things. My hair didn't get a chance to recover from the low iron because as soon as I got it up, my hair started shedding because of the thyroid. The only thing I have been told about sparse temples is that it's due to the PCOS. Not sure if (or don't want to believe) that's true though because people seem to lose their temple hair in TE too. Carly75 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
steph 04.01.2008, 11:49 @ Carly75	To Carly Post reply
	Thanks Carly. That's quite encouraging, though, because at least if causes are indentified, you can work towards getting better and there is a possibility of hair recovery. steph is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
Carly75 04.01.2008, 12:02 @ steph	To Steph Post reply
	Thanks for your reply, Steph. Unfortunately, even though I have more or less corrected the problems (for now) I am seeing nothing in terms of improvement. I hope you can get your iron back up soon and that you start to see some regrowth. ť Thanks Carly. That's quite encouraging, though, because at least if causes ť are indentified, you can work towards getting better and there is a ť possibility of hair recovery. Carly75 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
nomoresheds 04.01.2008, 13:04 @ steph	To samanta607 Post reply
	ť My ferritin at the last test was 47, and I know this is too low as I have ť been told to get it over 100. It has been higher, but since having a go at ť veganism and then vegetarianism over the summer, I don't think that helped ť matters. I noticed I had less hair since early 2005, and would have hoped ť that things would have corrected themselves by now. My mother has diffuse ť thin hair, almost see through. My grandmother's was fine too. But I had ť always had such an abundance of the stuff; I'd never heard of hereditary ť hair loss until I started to read stuff on the internet! But the loss is ť definitely diffuse, with grey, sparse temples and a hairline that looks ť receding. This is not AGA, but low iron? Does anyone else have any ť thoughts or opinions on this? Don't know which way to turn anymore; don't ť know who to believe. I seem to have trouble absorbing iron. Can the ť inability to absorb iron be genetic? Any thoughts would be greatly ť appreciated. I think over age 35 you can lose some ability to absorb iron. I had lost quite a bit in the temple area too. nomoresheds is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
nikita21 10.09.2008, 08:09 @ Carly75	To Carly Post reply
	ť I don't really have a diagnosis because I have quite a lot going on ť (hypothyroidism, iron deficiency, borderline pcos) so it's hard for anyone ť to say for sure. Different Drs I have seen attribute it to different ť things. ť ť My hair didn't get a chance to recover from the low iron because as soon ť as I got it up, my hair started shedding because of the thyroid. ť ť The only thing I have been told about sparse temples is that it's due to ť the PCOS. Not sure if (or don't want to believe) that's true though ť because people seem to lose their temple hair in TE too. Carly, just wondering where you are at now and how is your hair and what have you been doing for it? Your undiagnosed problems seem to be similar to my situation. I have PCOS symptoms and hypothyroid symptoms and a ferritin level of 29. Any info would be GREATLY appreciated! nikita21 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO