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Dr. Gho's Hair Multiplication Procedures
Excerpts from Forum # 1 & # 2
The following are posts regarding
OTHER BREAKTHROUGHS
in chronological order

SUMMARY FROM FORUM # 1
(Summary from Forum # 2 appended to the end of Summary from Forum # 1)

Re: hair follicle culturing/reproduction

From: Liz
Date: 10 Aug 1999
Time: 23:02:36
Remote Name: 1cust112.tnt4.huntington-beach.ca.da.uu.net

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I haven't been to this site in a while. Cheer up everybody. There are many other researchers working on curing hairloss besides this one doctor. Some good news: One group of researchers from Japan have discovered how to culture and grow hair follicles that regenerate hair just like normal hair. From what I understand, they can also grow hair on scars. The info is on PubMed and at the U.S. patent website listed under Yoshizato. Again, they are just among the thousands of researchers looking to find a cure for hairloss and related conditions. Keep the faith and save your money to pay for the cure.

Re: DR in Japan

From: Liz
Date: 12 Aug 1999
Time: 20:21:31
Remote Name: 1cust24.tnt5.huntington-beach.ca.da.uu.net

Comments

Based on what's been published, they've found how to grow hair that grows and regenerates just like normal human hair. It sounds more like cell differentiation which is a hot field just like cloning. The dr. is a biology professor. If researchers understand how the skin works to produce hair, then possibly you won't need to have 5,000 injections for cloned hair. PubMed and journals like Investigative Dermatology are good places to check what's happening in research.

Re: Dr. Yoshizato is "cloning" hair as well. Check out this article

From: Marson
Date: 03 Sep 1999
Time: 14:39:17
Remote Name: w123.public.ic.utoronto.ca

Comments

The previous poster who stated that Dr. Gho is not the only one cloning/culturing hair is right. So is Dr. Katsutoshi Yoshizato, an expert in the field of cellular differentiation. Search Yahoo with the phrase "Yoshizato hair" and read the article. The address for the article is

www2.jst.go.jp/jst/erato/erato-symp-e/9403E012.html

That last E in the address MUST BE CAPITALIZED, so if your browser says NOT FOUND, capitalize that last E (if your browser changed it like mine did) and hit enter

Re: Dr. Yoshizato is "cloning" hair as well. Check out this article

From:
Date: 03 Sep 1999
Time: 15:22:58
Remote Name: csdi2-proxy.service.digital.com

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It remains pretty unclear at what stage is Yoshizato in his research. The fact that Keratinocyte solutions can be used in culturing Hairs has been widely known for some years now. In 1997, some Researchers in Genua, Italy, were able to segment Hair Follicles by 2-3 and Grow them in a Keratinocyte solution before planting them on the scalp. Unfortunately, most of the tansplanted Hairs only grew for some time, and so the studies were discontinued. I'd be curious to know if Yoshizato is already trying to transplant the cultured Hairs or is He simply culturing Hairs ?. It seems that Gho is already more ahead in this, but then again Who knows ? I don't know too much about ,Dr. Unger but I think I heard somewhere that the Canadian is still at an early stage of Reaserches. Pete

Re: yoshizato

From: Bob
Date: 17 Sep 1999
Time: 20:37:41
Remote Name: spider-wl034.proxy.aol.com

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Hey guys: I sent an Email to Dr. Yoshizato and asked him when he thinks hair multiplying eill be available for transplanting and here is his answer: "Dear Mr. Babak Yes, I Think that hair multiplying will ba available for hair transplant in very near future. Yoshizato" For some reason I believe him more than i believe Gho Bob

Re: yoshizato

From: Joshua
Date: 18 Sep 1999
Time: 04:56:30
Remote Name: h57i11.delphi.afb.lu.se

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Well, when you say you believe Yoshizato more than Gho, what do you mean by that? Gho says he thinks the procedure will be available in a few(1-2) years, and Yoshizato says it'll be available "in a very near future". How do you interpret "in a very near future"? Do you think it'll be available before, or after, 1-2 years?

One more thing, did you find out anything about Dr Yoshizatos procedure? How far is he in his research? What has he accomplished so far? etc

Re: yoshizato

From: Bob
Date: 18 Sep 1999
Time: 08:57:55
Remote Name: spider-wm084.proxy.aol.com

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The reason I believe Yoshizato is because you can actually find his hair multiplying invention in (U.S Patent) web site. I didn't understand everything about his invention but it seems to me that he has succesfuly multiplied human hair follicles. If you want go to www.uspto.gov and under "inventor name" type Yoshizato and read what it says. My english is a little limited so you may get more out of it than i did. Yoshizato has never made any outlandish claim about his research and as a matter of fact when I fist sent him the Email he asked me where I got his address and seems to me he wants to keep a low profile so he had no reason to not be truthful when he said "very near future" He seems very profesional and legitimet. If you want his Email Adrress I suppose I can give it to you but then he is going to be bomarded with emails. So I don't know what do you guys think

Re: Contact Yoshizato I

From: Pavlo
Date: 19 Sep 1999
Time: 07:21:31
Remote Name: 213.8.16.94

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Hi On 19/09/99 22:00 japan times ihave contact Dr. Yoshizato first i have introduced myself than i have asked him if it's true he is able to multiply hair and he confirmed I have asked him if he is aware of the potential of such treatment and the fact that it can be the greatest invention it he world and he confirmed that he knows the huge financial potential in this treatment. He also mentioned he is getting fund one interesting detail i didnt expect to get an answer at 22:00 japan times that implies that they are working Very! hard .I ask him when he predicts that it will be commercially available and he told me that he predicts within 2 years but he stress this is only aprediction. I have asked him whether they have been able to put a hair on the head of ahuman test subject and he told me that they are still trying this So all the other questions (density etc. are currently irrelevant) i think that right now yoshizato is behind gho (cause gho has been able to put hair on ahuman test subject).

But the most astonishing fact i got from the interview with Yoshizato is the fact that he had never heard of Gho. when i told him that gho is a competitor of him he told me that he want me to send him his address (not phone).I told him i'll get him Gho's address tommorow.Do you think i should do this answer me here.

Bye

Re: Contact Yoshizato I

From: Ryan M
Date: 19 Sep 1999
Time: 07:54:16
Remote Name: user-33qt867.dialup.mindspring.com

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Pavlo, I definitely think you should provide Dr. Yoshizato with Dr. Gho's address. If these guys are independently working on the same type of procedure and they decide to share some of their results and potential stumbling blocks with each other, then we could see a perfected version of the procedure come to market much sooner than we are currently expecting. I really hope that they would choose to work together to help one another, rather than keep all of their information to themselves. Also, you might want to contact Dr. Gho to see if he has heard of Dr. Yoshizato. If worse comes to worst and they do not want to share info, at least they will be aware of one another as competitors which may speed up research on the matter.

Re: Here is my reply from Yoshizato

From: John M
Date: 19 Sep 1999
Time: 12:23:04
Remote Name: 199.105.77.3

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At 22:11 99.9.18 -0400, John M wrote: >Hi there. We are all aware of your preliminary procedure on the >culturing of hair follicles. I am not giving out your email address, >because I know that you don't want to overwhelmed with emails asking the >same questions over and over. I myself do have a few questions that i'd >like to ask you, and I hope that you can help me and allow me to spread >hope through the alopecia population. As you're probably aware, Dr. Gho >from the Netherlands is supposidly testing the same procedure and up >until recently claims that it'll be ready from 1-2 years. Are you >anywhere near that timeframe, and do you think that it's possible? Is >your procedure the same as Dr. Gho's? Do the hair cells multiply that >you inject with a syringe and grow normally cycling hair? Does it stay >in the scalp for a lifetime? Will this procedure theoretically allow >one to regain a full head of hair? Any idea of the cost? Does the >procedure look any better than follicular unit graphs? Thank you very >much for your time, and I will no longer be contacting you, because I >don't want to disturb you or your work. Again, thank you. > >John MXXXXXX

Yoshizato wrote at Sep.19, 1999.

<<<<<<<<Dear Dr. MXXXXXX,

Thank you for this e-mail. It is very helpful to me if you tell me either of the regional address, e-mail address, of fax number of Dr. Gho in the Netherlands.

Sincerely yours,

K. Yoshizato

Katutoshi Yoshizato, Ph.D. Professor of Hiroshima Univ.

Voice: +XX-XXX-XX-XXXX Fax: +XX-XXX-XX-XXXX>>>>>>>>>

Dr. Yoshizato gave me his voice # and his fax #. I'm omitting this information due to the promise that I made him of not giving out his information. It does seem that Dr. Yoshizato isnt aware of Dr Gho, and that he wants to get more info on him. Maybe this will speed up Dr. Yoshizato's research to get it out before Dr Gho gets the pioneer status, and vice versa. If anyone has Dr. Gho's phone, fax, or email please send it to me at johnm921@redconnect.net so I can supply it to Dr. Yoshizato. Thank you.

John M

From: And here's the other reply...
Date: 20 Sep 1999
Time: 12:30:23
Remote Name: 199.105.77.33

Comments

Here is the 2nd email of Dr. Yoshizato after sending him Dr Gho's information:

At 22:56 99.9.19 -0400, John M wrote: >Dr Gho's address is: > >Gho Clinic >Brouwersweg >62XX EG Maastricht >Tel. # XXX-X540610 (from US: 0XXX 4X-354X61X) >Fax # 0XX-X5X06X1 (from US: 00XX 4X-3X40XX1) > >Please let me know the outcome of this, as it took some research of my own to >get this information. Also, can you answer any of my questions from my >previous email? > >Thank you, >John MXXXXXX >

Yoshizato wrote at Sep.20, 1999. >> >> Dear Dr. MXXXXX, >> >> Thank you for this information. I will inform you if we have some positive >>progresses on this issue >> >> Sincerely yours,

Katutoshi Yoshizato, Ph.D. Professor of Hiroshima Univ.

Voice: +XX-8X4-24-7440 Fax: +XX-824-24-1492

Well, as you can see, he really doesnt want to give out too much info on his procedure. He totally avoids the question! Well, guess we just have to wait and see.

Contac the clinic III the full report

From: Pavlo
Date: 25 Sep 1999
Time: 19:53:06
Remote Name: 213.8.1.135

Comments

Hi all

First of all i am very sorry for the delay one of our clients ( i am in the hi-tech buisness) had a problem and i had to leave israel (and my pc) and to spend 6 full days in hong kong i thought i will have the chance to get in thouch with you guys there but i couldnt get to the hairsite from there except only one time when i asked my sister to write you to wait for the full report .

The full report =============== I have contact gho clinic on monday and i started the conversation by telling him about yoshizato. At first he told me that he had never heard about yoshizato i have continued to tell him about yoshizato "he is acompetitor of you" and i wondered how come that people dealing in exactly the same buisness dont know about one another. Than gho did his first mistake by telling me "Maybe i dont know him cause he is biologist and i am a M.D." which is a poor excuse but also indicate that gho knows yoshizato very well.I told gho that yoshizato has avery good core technology and he is doing great job in his research and gho told me "but i know that so far he hasn't been able to implement his technique on human test subjects".At this point i was sure that gho knows Yoshizato and i told gho that Yoshizato is now testing his technique on human test subjects i offered gho to get in touch with Yoshizato and he didnt like the idea but he has taken his E-mail adress but i don't think he'll use it. I have asked Gho how is the research going on and he told me that right now they are doing very well and they are approaching the end. I have asked him for time for commercial availability and he answered one year. I asked gho what about the hair density and he told me that everything regardind the filnal results is a secret and the investors told him no to tell anything about the final results.

For summary i am sure that gho knows yoshizato annd maybe all his other competitors this awareness is very good for us and things will go better and faster.

As for the final result i thimk that the fact that they are kept asecret is because gho thought he is speaking with some spy (maybe sent by Yoshizato) but it can be that the final result are very good and that's why they are hidden to prevent someone(regular hair transplant,hair systems manufacures and others) to try to sabotaje in the research, but it can be the other way around.

AS for piliel I am very happy to read andy's post about talking with Prof. Lindenbaum i'll speak to her today (i know her very well unlike gho). Piliel in my opinion was aperfect prevention solution far better than regain and propecia.

Bye

Re: And so is Dr. Walter Unger at the University of Toronto

From: Kim
Date: 03 Sep 1999
Time: 14:43:47
Remote Name: w123.public.ic.utoronto.ca

Comments

Dr. Walter Unger is doing the same. He is an MD and professor at the University of Toronto Medical School who has been involved in hair transplants for years. His phone number is (416)944-9393 in Toronto and (212)249-9393 in New York. I suggest you give him a call and find out how his research is going.

Re: Other research

From: Alistair
Date: 04 Sep 1999
Time: 12:53:00
Remote Name: du-027-0423.claranet.co.uk

Comments

Can anyone help with suggestions as to how to obtain Dr. Colin Jahoda's contact details. I notice on a web page that he is also researching hair cloning/multiplication in the UK and would like to contact him. I agree that from what I have heard Dr Gho is further ahead than anyone else but it doesn't hurt to check what progress others are making. It seems to me that the more people that are working on it and achieving some success the better as each team will want to be the first to make treatment available... the money in this for the successful group would be very huge.

Re: Skin culturing

From: Bob
Date: 16 Sep 1999
Time: 14:37:03
Remote Name: spider-wo082.proxy.aol.com

Comments

I went to US PATENT (www.uspto.gov) site and found this patent about culturing skin with hair follicles in it. But I couldn't realy understand the whole thing. Could somebody please go there and see if he can make some sense out of all that mumbo jumbo

Inventors Name = Li; Lingna (La Jolla, CA) Assignee = Anticancer, Inc. (san Diego, CA) Patent Number = 5849579

If true This has more potential than Gho's. Because all you have to do is take a liitle bit of skin from back of the head where there is plenty of hair follicles and culture it and then transplant the whole thing on top

Re: Good News

From: Bob
Date: 24 Oct 1999
Time: 22:34:07
Remote Name: spider-tk061.proxy.aol.com

Comments

Hi guys: This is Bob the guy who gave Yoshizato's Email to John. Listen to me carefuly, There is a presentation being given at the International Society of hair Restoration Surgery meeting this week in San Francisco (I don't know the exact date) about software that is making it easier to map genes. The presenter is using biopsies of hair from balding and non-balding people and using gene software that compares the stucture for similrities and disparities, the ultimate goal being to find which genes responsible for hair loss. combine this news with the one that they will map all human genes by the end of yhis year,and the fact that they can deliver genes to hair follicles. this could be a big news. Listen we all Know this Gho thing is going to happen. it's just the mmater of when. It could happen next year or two years from now or five years from now, But it's going to happen; However, we should also welcome other good news. I'm in computer science business and i Know how fast technology is going. The speed and computing power of today's computers are mind-bugling, If this thing is true it could be a breakthough I'm asking everybody in this site to investigate this thing and share your findings with the rest. remeber gentelmen technology is our best friend. thank you

Re: I don't agree ... !!!!!

From: Paulg18@hotmail.com
Date: 27 Oct 1999
Time: 18:12:17
Remote Name: csdi2-proxy.service.digital.com

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Lads, don't get carried away to fast ! Dr. Unger was way behind in his researches months ago and He still is now, and by the looks of things it might take him at least a year to reach the point where Dr. Gho is now . I remember an interview with him many months ago , in which He stated that He's very doubtful that the all thing might prove succesful before 5-6 years.... No wonder He's in doubt !!, He's still having problems with Micky Mouses !!...and hasn't yet tried on Humans... Please , don't confuse the 2 !!! Gho is taking his time to perfectionate his research...simply because He can afford it ! Yoshizato, Unger and all the others are way behind.... If there was more competition, You would have seen it all out much sooner.., but at the end of the day it's better for us that it comes out in a more skillful way ....(remember the first Plug Transplants ?????) I feel bad like you about this all mess , and I certainly don't feel like waiting for more then one month, nevermind a year, but what choices have We got ?? Go to New Hair Clinic ?? NOWAAAAAAY !!!!!!!!!!! Keep your Chin UP !!!....don't give up THE FIGHT right now ! Take care, Paul G

Re: I don't agree ... !!!!!

From: Bob
Date: 27 Oct 1999
Time: 21:33:06
Remote Name: spider-th024.proxy.aol.com

Comments

First of all the Doctor that you are reffering to(Dr. Unger) is working on hair cloning, with his method -if in fact becomes reality) you can clone unlimited number of HAIR follicles from one hair follicle, but with Gho's method you can get around thirty hair from one single hair. Gho's is called HAIR MULTIPICATION. Second of all Dr. Unger said it himself that his research has been progressing slowly because they need aproval from canadian government every step of the way. listen my friend, I feel your pain, but you're way too sensetive about you're hair loss. Look at Andre Agasi, He's completely bald and yet women realy find him attractive. Look at Ted Kasansky (Unibomber) head full of hair. Do you think women look at himm and say vow look at those beautifull hair. i don't think so. I love to have full head of hair same way that a short guy wishes to be taller or a fat guy hopes to lose weight, but that's about it. The mistake that most men make is that they think women look at men the same way men look at women, they don't. They are not as visual as we are don't get me wrong they too are attracted to good looks but personality plays a much bigger role with them. Sophia Loren the most beautiful women of this century turned down the holywood sex symbol Cary Grant(who had a head full of hair handsome face, tall, and rich) and married carlo Ponti who was short, bald , 25 years her senior, and not as rich as cary Grant. How do you explain that. Marylin Monroe married a bald Guy ( Author N Miller) and she was richer than him at the time they married. She could have married anybody she wanted to, a Young man, a rich man, or a man with lots of hair. But she choose a bald man. If women find bald men unattractive how do you explain all these bald guys who get the most beautifull women in the world. I admitt that we look better and younger with hair but lack of it shouldn't drive you crazy. Please don't think about suiside and if you can't help it go see a good professional. Best of luck to you

Re: www.drcotterill.com/faq.html

From: Andy - hair loss warriors
Date: 03 Nov 1999
Time: 07:33:02
Remote Name: host62-172-224-130.btinternet.com

Comments

As you can see word is now spreading around that hair multiplication is the next big thing. Even Dr Walter Unger and Dr Cotterill are harbouring their patients 'donor cells' in view of this. I bet that almost all hair transplant doctors are getting a lot of grief from potential customers asking about this new therapy - I'd like to think that all of us has helped cause this hype and as I said earlier, kick progress up the rear. Dr Walter Unger was the first doctor to really establish micrografting and worked in tandem with Dr Pierre Peatoux (the celebreties favourite), now retired.So if he's working on it then he knows the possibilities are there. Gho certainly does and I think his confidence is evident thruogh Pavlo's contact. Interestingly if you go to www.ishrs.org/ you will see a section on Hair Cloning Updates in which again Dr Coterill outlines his feelings about this. It appears to me that all of a sudden since this article he is a lot more active in actually researching it than ignoring it. I think this is happening all over the world and all the hair doc's now that the bald(ing) public are getting real impatient. Crap tranplants will soon be following the way of vinyl records.

Never ever quit.

Re: www.drcotterill.com/faq.html

From: Paulg18@hotmail.com
Date: 03 Nov 1999
Time: 15:04:16
Remote Name: csdi2-proxy.service.digital.com

Comments

Andy, I found your post damn interesting, but I couldn't understand a few parts. A help in clarifying it will be appreciated.

>>>>As you can see word is now spreading around that hair multiplication is the next big thing. Even Dr Walter Unger and Dr Cotterill are harbouring their patients 'donor cells' in view of this.

Andy, could you please explain me to what in particular do you refer, as I didn't see any mention about it anywhere else (not that I did much research to be frank...)

>>>>. Dr Walter Unger was the first doctor to really establish micrografting and worked in tandem with Dr Pierre Peatoux (the celebreties favourite), now retired.So if he's working on it then he knows the possibilities are there.

so,.. did He retire to start working on Hair Multiplication as well ?? Is He working now full time in the same field of Gho.

>>Interestingly if you go to www.ishrs.org/ you will see a section on Hair Cloning Updates in which again Dr Coterill outlines his feelings about this.

Sorry, checked but I didn't see it. could You give a more precise link ?

Thanks for the recent good news. I'll take it that you gave up completely any idea of further transplants in France. See ye next year in Holland ?

Best of luck from a fellow anti-Hairloss Warrior, Paul

Re: Good news (?). I found this on today's CBS News....

From: Paul
Date: 03 Nov 1999
Time: 17:17:10
Remote Name: csdi2-proxy.service.digital.com

Comments

I found this on today's CBS News....it sounds pretty interesting. I just wonder if they are following the same line of Dr. Gho, as it appears, or using different method .. Perhaps something else is moving...? The downfall is: they talk about years before it might be commercially available.

Perhaps Andy might find the way to contact the Uk Doctor who's doing the tests . (Colin Jahoda, Durham Univeristy)

You can also view a video on the subject : http://www.cbs.com/flat/story_199554.html

A Breakthrough On Baldness.

Scientists Successfully Grow A Hair Follicle. Could Pave The Way For Future Transplants.

NEW YORK. Wednesday, November 03,1999 - 07:26 PM ET .

AP. (CBS) From one small hair, a whole new approach to treating baldness may have sprouted, reports CBS News Correspondent Elizabeth Kaledin.

For the first time ever, British researchers have successfully transplanted cells taken from a male hair follicle, put them into the arm of a woman and grown an actual hair.

"What these cells are doing is going into the recipients' skin and telling the recipient skin to organize a hair follicle," says Colin Jahoda, a biologist at Britain's Durham University.

Dermatologist Angela Christiano, who does genetic research on balding in mice, is hailing it as a breakthrough. "This study shows for the first time that you can actually take hair follicle cells from one individual and actually transplant them into a second individual who is not immunologically compatible," she says.

Dr. Robert Bernstein performs thousands of hair transplants every year. In current procedures the entire follicle is permanently removed from the back of the head and relocated to the front.

Bernstein says the new discovery means people could one day manufacture their own hair cells for transplant, becoming their own donors. "Most individuals have a permanent donor supply so if you can multiply that even a few fold almost everybody could end up with a full head of hair," he says.

Commercial applications for hair cell transplants are a long way off, but for the estimated 30 to 40 million Americans suffering from hair loss and spending billions of dollars to reverse it, it's one of the most promising advances to date.

Re: On the same subject....

From: me again
Date: 03 Nov 1999
Time: 17:39:10
Remote Name: csdi2-proxy.service.digital.com

Comments

I found more news on the same subject in alt.baldspot:

Subject: Very cool study Date: 1999/11/04 Author: thread <thread@servtech.com

This study is pretty amazing. Besides its (possible) practical value, it also seems to demonstrate the role of the immune system in hair growth.

Kevin Davis.

Cross-gender hair transplant a success.

NEW YORK, Nov 03 (Reuters Health) -- Scalp hair from a man has been successfully transplanted into the forearm of a woman. Sounds creepy -- but the study findings may lead to new treatments aimed at curing baldness and at preventing organ rejection.

The remarkable thing about the transplant is that the woman did not share the same blood type, let alone the same immune system markers as the man, suggesting a high risk that she might reject the follicle cells. The fact that she didn't suggests that the technique may be a treatment for hair loss, and may help scientists to better understand why the body rejects some transplants.

Although such unrelated hair follicles have been transplanted without rejection between rats, this has never before been achieved in humans, according to Colin Jahoda of Durham University in Durham, UK, and his associates. Their report is published in the November 4th issue of the journal Nature.

Three members of the research team were involved in the skin-sharing scheme. First, they report, tiny pieces of skin dissected from a man's scalp were implanted into shallow skin wounds created in the forearm of one of his female colleagues, described as "genetically unrelated and immunologically incompatible." To their surprise, the transplants were not rejected.

Next, the team again transplanted skin follicles from the male to female team member, thinking that the second transplant would certainly be rejected once the woman's immune system had its second encounter with the same foreign material. But once again, the graft took.

To further test the process, the investigators then transplanted follicles from a second, unrelated male into the forearm of the same female team member. Again, the sites healed rapidly without rejection or inflammation, the researchers report.

Even more surprising, Jahoda and colleagues note, the new hairs resembled scalp hairs -- large, thick, colored, and growing in all directions-rather than the soft, uncolored hairs carpeting the untouched female forearm surrounding the grafts.

Biopsies of the transplanted grafts showed no microscopic signs of rejection, and DNA testing proved the transplants were in fact male cells living in a female forearm, the results indicate.

The scientists surmise that the follicles are somehow privileged immunologically, such that transplants into foreign sites can be made without being rejected.

While hair transplants from men's scalps to women's forearms are not expected to become fashionable, these results suggest that such transplants between incompatible donor-host pairs could be used in new treatments for hair loss, the investigators note.

They also suggest that the findings "might be used in tissue and organ engineering" to provide more organs for patients in need of transplants.

Nature 1999;402:33-34.

Re: On the same subject....

From: Dave
Date: 04 Nov 1999
Time: 03:49:22
Remote Name: sdu251-73.ppp.algonet.se

Comments

Of course this is good news, but the doctors predicted that bald men will be able to have their own hair cloned within 15 years or so. Let's keep our fingers crossed for Gho. I don't want to wait 15years :=)

Re: On the same subject....

From: Joshua
Date: 04 Nov 1999
Time: 10:55:29
Remote Name: h57i11.delphi.afb.lu.se

Comments

Yes, 15 years... ;) Well, I really can't see how it can be that these doctors have so little knowledge of what the others are doing. This article says 15 years, and I've heard other researchs say 5 years for example. I would like to hear what these have to say about Dr Gho's research, and him forecasting a commercial releasedate within one year. These guys might as well stop their research if they are this far behind Dr Gho... !

Re: they are protecting their own interests!!

From: John
Date: 05 Nov 1999
Time: 12:16:51
Remote Name: mx4dl102.winnipeg.escape.ca

Comments

You always have to consider the source of comments like that... the one who said it was going to be out in 15 years was a transplant surgeon at NHI... he wasn't even involved in the project he was commenting on... the news agency only asked him because he's a good surgeon. Why did he even say 15 years, probably because he has all sorts of potential customers who ask him if they should wait awhile rather than having a standard transplant right now... what do you think he's going to say? His business would go down to ZERO if he told the truth. If he told the truth the least he would say is that he doesn't know when stuff like this is going to come out as he's not involved with the research, but he isn't even that truthful. He puts a time frame that's so far into the future to discourage his current potential customers.

Re: yes, they are !

From: Paulg18@hotmail.com
Date: 05 Nov 1999
Time: 21:51:20
Remote Name: csdi2-proxy.service.digital.com

Comments

I agree with John from Winnipeg, Canada ! Do you think a hair transplant Doctor would encourage people to believe that another better solution might be available within a year??? I don't know whether we'll see it out within a year (this time !), but if you are considering a HT...for your own sake, WAIT !!!! Don't trust the word of someone who has every interest to see it out later rather than sooner ! Paul

Re: Colin Jahoda

From: Andy -hair loss warriors
Date: 04 Nov 1999
Time: 06:59:51
Remote Name: host62-172-224-130.btinternet.com

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I have already been in contact with Dr Jahoda prior to this news. I wanted to report something substantial in regards his own view of Gho's work aside form his own but I had nothing to say. I can't tell you anything yet because he's real busy but has promised to email me about his view on all this ( and he knows a lot more than most re multiplication -if you search the web For Colin Jahoda youll' find various papers on hair growth) . He is a very respected biologist and wasn't suprised that Gho might have cracked it (I know that Gho knows of his work). I gave him this site address which he said he would study.Without sounding selfish guys please do not try and contact him. I've got a good in with this guy and I know any more chasing that I'm doing (which believe me is a lot) will just annoy him. Cheers

Re: Groundbreaking News - First successful person-to-person transplant

From: HairSite
Date: 05 Nov 1999
Time: 06:16:47
Remote Name: 207.159.127.101

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To HairSite Readers:

Dr. Christiano did it again (in cooperation with researchers in UK). First ever successful person-to-person hair transplant: Please go to HairSite Headline NEws for details, or click http://www.hairsite.com/library/abst-94.htm

HairSite

Re: groundbreaking news??????

From: Andy -hairloss warriors
Date: 05 Nov 1999
Time: 07:52:55
Remote Name: host62-172-224-130.btinternet.com

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Hi guys

BULLSHIT. I'm the last one to ruin the party but I think the world might be going over the top re this husband to wife hair transplant. I am amazed that this has not been achieved before considering the history with major organ transplants.Only last year some French bloke recieved a hand transplant (though not from his wife) which surely is a far far more complex procedure let alone concept. OK so the BIG benefit here looks to be future ways to overcome foreign body rejection which is wonderful in itself but regarding hairloss does this mean that somebody else (dead or alive) is going to donor his / her whole head of hair to me?. Maybe a full arm of hair! . I wonder what Gho makes of all this?. If Colin Jahoda can get this kind of coverage for a technology that by his own (media) estimate is 15 / 16years behind Gho then just imagine how multiplication technique will be recieved. It's funny that when I spoke to Colin he was very vague about his own work and now this!. Maybe, just maybe the news I gave him of Gho has inspired him to speak out before it's too late. Whatever the reasoning though this has certainly upped the ante and I can't wait to see what other 'breakthroughs' start to all of a sudden emerge. Lets hope Gho gets his gloves off RIGHT NOW.

Have a good weekend

Re: You're totally right !!!!

From: Paulg18@hotmail.com
Date: 05 Nov 1999
Time: 08:37:12
Remote Name: csdi2-proxy.service.digital.com

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Andy, as the person who first posted the news on this forum , I couldn't agree more with you . My first reaction to the news was to place one big question mark (good news ?), my second and definite thought is to place as many question marks as you did. I read more articles on the papers, and frankly talking I can't understand what's all the big fuss about . This person is clearly ages behind Gho ! Again, I can't understand what's the big thing abou it ...unless they think to move hair follicles from people who just died !!!!! or some millionare paying off some poor bugger to buy his scalp ???? The only meaningful application would be if someone has not enough donor Hair even for Hair Multiplication ??? I somehow doubt it ... Now , You all understand why Gho is keeping everything to himself.... just imagine when (and if) Hair Multiplication will come out ?? CNN would pitch tents and satellites in his back garden !! Paul

Re: Whoa There !!!!

From: Jacko
Date: 05 Nov 1999
Time: 09:52:02
Remote Name: 207.245.239.226

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Not to rain on your parade BUT I see a lot of deperate guys here that are putting all their eggs in one basket. What happens if Gho's treatment turns out to be a flop, the hair soesn't grom right, poor density, unnatural hairline...I could go on and on. Don't you remeber the supposed great results that were hyped from minox and propecia - sure you got some results but certainly not a full head of hair. This proceedure will probably have many bugs to work out even after it becomes comercially available.

I don't want to see a bunch of enthusuiastic guys get dissapointed if it doesn't live up to expectations. You might want to think about if it doesn't work. Don't get me wrong - I WANT A CURE but I certainly have not seen any real cure made in the last 10 years.

Re: thanks for the lecture, but ....

From: Paul
Date: 05 Nov 1999
Time: 12:30:02
Remote Name: csdi2-proxy.service.digital.com

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Jacko, what are you talking about ??????? none of us claimed for sure that it'll definetely work, and if you read my previous post it says : "if". and most of the others on this forum are along the same lines...

>>>>BUT I see a lot of deperate guys here that are putting all their eggs in one basket.

I'm not desperate nor are most of the other people here, but We don't resign ourselves to our hairloss, exactly like you, otherwise you wouldn't be here or alt.badspot and regrowth.

>>>>>> What happens if Gho's treatment turns out to be a flop, the hair soesn't grom right, poor density, unnatural hairline...I could go on and on.

OK, We dont know how it's going to look like and anything regarding : naturality of hairlines, density, growth direction or even duration of the results and I could also go on..... . BUT, let me tell you , Hair Multiplication would anyhow be giant step forward compared to todays mighty procedures:

a) surgically move a handful of hair back to front (and don't tell me that most have much density !!! and leave behind nasty scars back and front...) b) take Propecia and Minox hoping to be one of the lucky responders, and many in this Forum obviously are not.. c) Put a wig, and hope that there's no wind or the rest of the people around are wearing tick contact lenses...

>>>> This proceedure will probably have many bugs to work out even after it becomes comercially available.

Sure it will !!!! , as much as any brand new model of Car coming out in the market has always some Technical bug. Or Operating system and you name it.. But would you rather drive a Trabant or one of the latest models with Turbodiesel, ABS, Airbags ... Would you rather use Windows 3.1 or Windows NT (if you're happy with Microsoft..)

>>>>I don't want to see a bunch of enthusuiastic guys get dissapointed if it doesn't live up to expectations. You might want to think about if it doesn't work. Don't get me wrong - I WANT A CURE but I certainly have not seen any real cure made in the last 10 years.

And what does it mean ??... There are people who haven't seen any progress for even 20 years. If You see how fast everything is going fast in the Computing Industry, You'll see that every year nowadays, is like 2-3 years in the eighties or nineties. Likewise you I don't want to see people jumping off their feet, and then get disappointed, but there isn't anything wrong in hoping that something better will come out . If you allow me, nowaday there are more reasons to hope then there were in the past.. Best of luck, Paul

Re: thanks for the lecture, but ....

From:
Date: 07 Nov 1999
Time: 11:38:34
Remote Name: net-ppp3.cc.uregina.ca

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I certainly didn't want anyone here to get angry about my post or did I want to sound like I was lecturing. It just seemed that people were thinking this is going to be "The cure". I think if it's for real it will be the best treatment out there - drugs, transplants or whatever but there was a few guys on here that seemed pretty desperate like the one guy who said he was thinking of suicide if this wasn't the answer because he was sick of fighting it. If you've gone to my web page (http://www2.crosswinds.net/~treatment)- It's been down fore the last week so if it doesn't work come back a few days later - you've seen I still have 95% of my hair but I don't want to reside to taking drugs all my life nor do I want to get another traditional transplant thus I come to this forum as well as alt.baldspot to get the latest news. I hope this clears things up as I'm on your side in this thing but in some aspects I'm very jaded on each "wondercure" that comes out (ie minox, propecia ...) I'll believe it until I see it is my motto. I would like to see a cure that works for all people - men and women - not just a select few such as with minox and propecia and from what it initially sounds like Dr. Gho's treatment may be the next rung in the ladder to that cure.

Re: Grateful meds

From: TK421
Date: 02 Dec 1999
Time: 18:59:47
Remote Name: midasmcl16.library.mcgill.ca

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I just thought of something: have any of you heard of "grateful meds"? It is a web site that has a search engine for scientific papers of many sorts. To find it, just make a search under "grateful meds" in yahoo: you should get it automatically. I was trying to find articles written by Dr Gho, and the search engine found A LOT of articles by Gho and a lot of articles on hair cell matrix as well. The problem is the the engine has changed a bit in the last year, and I can't really use it anymore. We should be able to find many interesting papers tehre. The only problem is that you have to pay for them to send you copies of the articles, but it's still very cheap. (Like 2$ a paper I think--big deal.) There are also a lot of papers concerning hairloss and psychological disorders, which may be of interest to some of you guys. There is a doctor who specializes in this field. (Forgot his name, sorry!) You can find articles by Dr Sawaya in there. Anyways, let's try to figure out this searcg engine. We may be able to learn a lot about Dr Gho this way, AS WELL AS ON HIS COLLABORATORS... Yoshizato's article could be there as well. Ican read japanese, so I could read it I think. (Maybe Gho's "Fabao" article is there as well. This Gho thing is so mysterious! I fell like Sherlock Holmes already!

BTW, I am Canadian and trying to find out more about what Unger is doing in Toronto. My dermatologist, who is the expert on hairloss in Canada, has told me that there are over 50 drugs currently being tested by companies right now. He also said that he was more than confident that hairloss and its friend baldness would be a thing of the past in less than 5 years. He pointed his assistant and said that everybody would have hair like him quite soon. (His assistant is arabic...the fullest hairline I've seen in my life!) There is also a hair surgeon in montreal, where I live, who is in close touch with what is happening in the hair multiplication field. He knew 5 years ago that the japanese were up to something. (Yoshizato...) % years ago, he told me that it would take 7 or 8 years before we could see hair multiplication. That's two years from now. Close shot. This surgeon also knows Dr Unger quite well, and may know about his research. I'll fill you in as soon as I find out. I have spies working for me as I speak...

Re: Grateful meds

From: Bob
Date: 02 Dec 1999
Time: 19:45:35
Remote Name: spider-wb082.proxy.aol.com

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Dear tK421 I went to yahoo and searched for "grateful meds" and got nothing. Are you sure you gave us the right name?

Re: Grateful meds

From: Morgan
Date: 02 Dec 1999
Time: 19:52:45
Remote Name: pm15-s4-tier1.evansville.net

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Look here http://igm.nlm.nih.gov/

Re: Have contacted Gho and Unger

From: Chris Thelan
Date: 05 Dec 1999
Time: 18:54:35
Remote Name: w15.public.ic.utoronto.ca

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Recently, I contacted Dr. Gho as well as Dr. Unger in Toronto. Dr. Unger is currently only doing studies in mice and, judging by the strict medical practices standards here in Canada, Dr. Unger is a long way off making his procedure commercially available.

The first time I contacted Dr. Gho was last June (I had to stay up all night because of the time difference.) At the time, he said that if he were me, he would wait a year. I contacted him again four months later and he said, again, one year. When I mentioned that he had said one year four months ago, he said that "one year" is his standard response because there a certain things that are beyond his control and he cannot say for sure how long it is going to be. I then asked if the problem was that the implanted hairs were not cycling normally or don't last a lifetime, he said that "we are way further ahead than that." I volunteered to be a test subject but he said they are almost done the testing and need no new volunteers. He said they will be getting a web site soon to inform everyone about the procedures.

I attend the University of Toronto and if anyone would like to get in touch with me ( especially TK421 in Montreal ) I would be glad to here from you to discuss everything from Gho's phone number to RU58841 to Glaxo's new drug to LEO. Email me at chris_thelan@hotmail.com and we'll try to figure ot what our best options are. Good luck to all. Sincerely, Chris Thelan

Yoshizato & C

From: Paul
Date: 29 Dec 1999
Time: 10:52:23
Remote Name: 212.78.1.37

Comments

>>>>>remember the Japanese and all the other groups that are engaged in this research

Hi Rich, from what I've heard so far in this dicussion group, Yoshizato and the rest of the researchers (Dr. Unger) are way behind Dr. Gho. We're probably even talking about 1-2 years behind, as far as I know...I must admit I don't know more about both, then what was posted here previously)?) as : Dr. Yoshizato doesn't appear to have started yet Human Tests (Gho's words quoted by Pavlo), and Dr. Unger's Research was seriously slowed down by the Canadian strict regulations on Scientific Tests. Maybe you or others heard more on Yoshizato & C ? Best regards, Paul

Re: Yoshizato & C

From: Jacko
Date: 29 Dec 1999
Time: 15:22:25
Remote Name: net-ppp89.cc.uregina.ca

Comments

The only piece of info I found on the Canadian researchers is at Dr. Cotterill's website who is a collegue of Unger. The information can be found on his FAQ at:

http://www.paulcotterillmd.com/faq.html#13

Very interesting article!

From: Morgan
Date: 30 Dec 1999
Time: 05:01:41
Remote Name: pppa19-city-5r7237.saturn.bbn.com

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The Canadian doctor's comments reinforce my speculation that it is hair direction and angle that are the stumbling blocks Gho is dealing with. Some here have suggested that a hair gell would handle the hair growing in all different directions, but I seriously doubt that gell will solve the angle problem to their satisfaction. And, I think the "direction" problem is a reference to the hair growing *into* the scalp instead of out of it. That is the most serious problem of all!

Re: Similar Research now underway...

From: jehova
Date: 13 Jan 2000
Time: 07:02:51
Remote Name: anx3-44.dialup.emory.edu

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friends...both rational and desperate (of which i am both at times),

a few days ago,i received this email from one of the most reputable, kind and progressive doctors in the industry. i have cut and pasted it below. the doctors name will be protected. it is NOT Gho...i repeat this is not from Dr. Gho

but first...... i am sensing lots of desperation on the posts lately. that is not good. it leads to way too much stress and anguish in your personal life. this is not to say that i do not stress about losing my hair often b/c i sometimes do. but that does not change reality. you must be realistic and understand the info that is out there.

now to the email i received

We have now learnt how to successfully grow all the important cells in the hair follicle and are able to produce millions of each of these cells within several weeks of getting a tissue sample. These cells have been injected into athymic mice (mice that don't reject foreign material easily) and thus far we have been able to grow some hair on most of the rodents. Studies are continuing and hopefully we will be able to start human studies within the next 6 months to 2 years. As you are probably aware there are other centers doing similar studies and they may beat us to the punch, so keep your eyes peeled on the web. In the meanwhile, don't get too excited about what we have accomplished either as it sometimes is a long time between experimental animals and humans because of regulatory matters.

Re: Similar Research now underway...

From: Pavlo
Date: 13 Jan 2000
Time: 09:07:44
Remote Name: netcache2.mot.com

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Hi Dear Jehova We have heard this anouncement more than 2 months ago the name of the Dr. is Dr. Unger in canada (toronto) and as far as i know he is behind Gho. Bye

Re: Similar Research now underway...

From: Morgan
Date: 13 Jan 2000
Time: 09:41:56
Remote Name: pppa72-resaleevansville1-5r7237.saturn.bbn.com

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The thing that struck me as I read the e-mail you received was that, although they "are able to produce MILLIONS of EACH of these [hair] cells" (great news!), it only results in being "able to grow SOME hair on MOST of the rodents" (not great news).

Am I right in thinking that this is saying that there are large numbers of injected cells that DON'T result in hair growth? If so, why? And, what happens to those injected cells; Since the cells don't accomplish the goal of causing hair growth, are they a threat to one's health? Is cancer a risk? Just some thoughts.

Re: Tom Arnold 's Procedure

From: TK421
Date: 14 Jan 2000
Time: 15:07:38
Remote Name: midasclass19.library.mcgill.ca

Comments

Hi, guys.

I was sick with a mononucleosis for the last month, so I couldn't write anything. Remember when somebody said that Tom Arnold had the "slicing" hair multiplication procedure done last year? (It's the one where they cut the hair ino two or three at the base--remember the Korean doctors'article in Dermatologic Surgery?) Well, I thought he looked great. The hairline he was given is a lot more natural than the one he had last year, I must say. Impressive, considering that this method only multiplies donor hair by thre, as opposed to 30 with Gho!! The only problem with it is that the hairline was a bit high, and the temples had not been reconstructed. Still, both of these problems have to do with the still minimal availability of donor hair. The point is: with quasi-unlimited hair to work with, creating a natural hairline is more that feasible today. I found it was a reassuring sight, mostly with all of the hair I've lost with my illness in the last month...

BTW, I'll write to Unger next week. How about organizing a petition against the canadian code of medical ethics, as to let Unger do his work? If we get enough people, it could make a difference. Who knows? If he had the permission, he could be ready in 2 years from now! Also, it seems that Unger can make millions out of one, as opposed to 30 out of 1 for Gho. This makes for extremely minimal scarring! This could be MUCH more effective than fund raising and hey! It's free! I'm sure that if we helped Unger in this way, he would be willing to inform us on his research.

I also took a decision lately: I'm gonna stop worrying about my hair. Period. There are already so many researchers worrying like madmen to find a cure for us (and to make billions of $$$...) I'll get my hair back for sure. Weither it's 1, 2 or 3 years is little concern now. I'll get it back. I can breathe now. I'mm so happy I won't have to spend my life looking like Yoda... Or wear a helmet on my head all the time like Boba Fett...( Maybe that's the real mystery behing this fellow. Hmm...)

Re: Dr. Unger vs Dr. Gho

From: Todd
Date: 15 Jan 2000
Time: 05:42:36
Remote Name: spider-th061.proxy.aol.com

Comments

I find it hard to believe that this Unger guy can make millions out of 1 hair and DR. Gho can only make 30 out of 1 hair- 30 from one is not a lot-if you want a full head of hair, you will still be getting a sizable scar if thats the case- in the original article, it says that he takes about 30 hairs out of the donor area and multiplies them- if thats the case, thats only about 900 hairs which is basically nothing- but on the other hand, if he has told patients to hold off on traditional transplanting, maybe he can multiply a lot more than the 1 to 30 ratio- this whole thing comes down to how many hairs he can multiply- thats what everybody wants to know besides the growth pattern of the hair, which direction it grows in and how long it grows- a lot of unanswered questions at this point

Re: Dr. Unger vs Dr. Gho

From: Joshua
Date: 15 Jan 2000
Time: 10:42:45
Remote Name: h57i11.delphi.afb.lu.se

Comments

Well, where exactly does the 30:1 ration come from? Maybe it's just the ratio which has been used in the current tests. For example they took out 30 hairs, multiplied them into 900 and inserted them into a test area. This seem like a good numbers to do tests with. It's possible they can multiply to a much greater extent if they want to... well, who knows!?

Re: New Research backed by Pfizer

From: 123olsen@mail.com
Date: 15 Jan 2000
Time: 02:57:20
Remote Name: hume.ti.telenor.net

Comments

I have just visited alt.baldspot, and I come across a very interesting article made by HairTalk 15.01.00. The title is Hairloss Research Founded $50million.

The disadvantage is that the results of this research might first be practised in two, three, four years...

Here is what HairTalk posted:

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By Steve Sternberg, USA TODAY

Money to fund cure to hairloss......etc....

Last week, OSI announced it will get a six-year infusion of $50 million fromPfizer, maker of the impotence drug Viagra, to back the venture.

The folks who snapped the male world to attention with Viagra are racing to produce the world's first "cosmeceuticals" - drugs designed specifically to fight liver spots, HAIR LOSS and wrinkles.

The scientists, financed by New York-based Pfizer, are inventing a whole field of research by applying the most powerful new tools of biological science to the old bugaboos of unsightly blemishes, baldness and sun-damaged skin.

In a year, they plan to begin the first human trials of a topical ointment that blocks the biological process that leads to liver spots. One or two years later, they hope to begin similar trials of a compound that switches on the scalp's hair-making machinery and another that smoothes out wrinkles.

"We think quality-of-life products will be very important and financially rewarding into the next century. We think these products will be worth hundreds of millions of dollars - even billions of dollars - in the marketplace."

Goddard says the demand will come from the baby boomers who made Viagra so successful. It was Viagra's success, he says, that prompted Pfizer "to explore something that's entrepreneurial and out of the mainstream."

As for hair loss, Goddard and Freedberg say, new genetic techniques have begun to shed light on hair growth mechanisms.

It appears, Freedberg says, that balding men and women retain their ability to make hair, though the genetic mechanism for making hair follicles is turned off. The challenge is to find a way to switch these genes back on, and the researchers say they are well on their way to finding one.

Though liver spots, hair loss and wrinkling don't affect the way people function, "they clearly affect the way that people feel about themselves," Freedberg says. "They are major problems for people who have them. They can change people's lives in toto" by wrecking their odds of getting jobs and finding marriage partners.

Re: New Research backed by Pfizer

From: Dan
Date: 15 Jan 2000
Time: 06:48:20
Remote Name: we-24-24-130-30.we.mediaone.net

Comments

Great news...finally quality money going into hair loss research. I definately won't sell my Phizer stock now...if they get rich I'm gonna get rich with em.

Re: New Research backed by Pfizer

From: Bill
Date: 15 Jan 2000
Time: 08:34:47
Remote Name: 207-90-152-182.pavenet.net

Comments

Hi gang, First of all, this is not comparable to the multiplication procedure we all are watching closely. It sounds to me like this pharmaceutical company wants to discover a drug or a topical cream to turn back hair loss. Almost assuredly, this will be something we need to take for our life - I understand that industry perfectly well - they would only spend that type of money for a product that will bring them substantial income every year. Since it doesn't change our genetics, which is probably a good thing, they will always have men who need their product. Secondly, there is no pharmaceutical that doesn't have side effects. Most pharmaceuticals today do their job by turning off the bodies ability to make a particular enzyme. Enzymes are chemical tools that the body uses in order to make a reaction proceed at the needed rate. However, this does not solve the real problem, and these chemicals, which the body sees as undesirable, always do things that we do not want them to do - i.e. side effects. The worse thing about this is that this is the very size of operation that would buy Gho out. If someday, you happen to hear that Gho says his work just couldn't produce good results, this could very well be what happened. They could approach Gho directly or just approach a few bigwigs in the Netherlands government responsible for okaying the funding. Believe me, this happens with unbelievable regularity - either the okaying of a project, or the denying of a project. This is what I have been worrying about - that if this procedure is really close to reality, that some big financial concern will use their funds to buy it out. $10 million would be nothing to a large pharmaceutical company when compared to the billions in income for years and years, but to a small group of individuals, it means never having to work again - not many people are righteous enough to turn that down.
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Re: New Research backed by Pfizer

From: Paul
Date: 15 Jan 2000
Time: 11:32:47
Remote Name: server165.digital.co.uk

Comments

Bill, to be fair I wouldn't be so worried about that. If Hair Multiplication really works as We all hope, Dr. Gho stands to make a far bigger money throughout the years by opening his own Clinics around the globe and/or leasing the licence also to other Cosmetic Centres , than by selling it even for 50 Millions.... Even if someone would eventually buy it from him, I don't think that it would be in their advantage to hide or destroy the whole thing. Who can give back to people a full head of Hair would certainly make millions.

On the other hand, I must say that what happened with Piliel and RU is quite mysterious and unclear..., and it wouldn't surprise me if Merck or Upjohn were involved in something.. Pavlo said in this Forum that He took part in the Piliel trials in Israel with outstanding results, before the whole thing was suspended, with claims that it "was uneffective". I recalled that Pavlo even wrote that some of people in the trials who were having a great success, turned pretty nasty when they were told that they were not going to be given anymore supplies of Piliel..

Paul

Re: New Research backed by Pfizer

From: Morgan
Date: 15 Jan 2000
Time: 11:39:30
Remote Name: pppa81-resaleevansville1-5r7237.saturn.bbn.com

Comments

Bill, this *is* good news. It shows that Pfizer recognizes that problems of a cosmetic nature are extremely important and life affecting. Sure, what they come up with may require daily, weekly, or monthly use for the rest of our lives, but so what? Eventually someone else will come up with a genetic cure that is safe and a one-time procedure, or something like Gho's procedure will become available. We'll just use Pfizer until then.

"[T]hey would only spend that type of money for a product that will bring them substantial income every year." Yes, and it's lucky for us that it *does* have the potential to make them a big profit, or we'd be out of luck. I work for one of the largest, most successful multi-national corporations in the world. I see everyday how humanitarianism can take a back seat to profits. That's the way of the world, and if we're going to get what we're after we have to learn to use that to our advantage. That means sending the signals that we are willing to support a corporation that is investing in helping us solve our problems. They aren't doing it because they love us, but we don't have any love for them either. When someone else offers us a better deal, we'll drop Pfizer like a hot rock. And, without high potential profits, they'll do the same to us.

"[T]here is no pharmaceutical that doesn't have side effects." That's a broad statement, but even assuming that it's true, most of us still use pharmaceuticals everyday. Why? Because the side-effects are acceptable when compared to the benefits.

"[T]he worse thing about this is that this is the very size of operation that would buy Gho out." Your negative view of capitalism is so great that it sees a company allocating millions of dollars to help you as a threat to you. What's a company like Pfizer to do? If they say that they're not interested in pursuing a cure for MPB they are denounced as fools for not seeing the potential profits in helping the millions of balding guys. If they say they *are* interested in pursuing a cure for MPB they are denounced as greedy opportunists trying to pick the pockets of millions of balding guys for the rest of their lives.

As for me, if Pfizer can return my hair in exchange for $50 a month from me *for the rest of my life*, I want to know where my checkbook is. After *25 years* I'll have given Pfizer only $15,000. If Gho can return my hair in exchange for a lump sum payment of $15,000, I'll give it to him.

There's a race going on to help me and, in my view, the more people and money in that race, the better chance I'm going to be able to leave this whole topic behind for good. My goal is, a couple of years from now, to be tucked safely under a head full of hair thinking back on how silly it was to think balding was a big deal! ;^)

Re: New Research backed by Pfizer

From: Bill
Date: 15 Jan 2000
Time: 18:38:17
Remote Name: 207-90-152-156.pavenet.net

Comments

Hi Paul and Morgan, You guys are sure more optimistic about big business than I am - I hope you are right. It behooves the corporation to have a product by which they can make profit every year, because that is the sole purpose for their existence - to make profit. That is not a bad thing, just how it is. However, I would venture to say that most individuals are not interested in working on a day-in-day-out basis. Most people work in order to have the funds to do what they really like - which is why most individuals would take a lifetime-amount of money at one time, invest it correctly, and never work another day in their lives, so I do not believe for the most part that a Gho would keep the licensing, but sell it, and live happily ever after. And if a big company gets hold of a drug that makes them wealthy every single year, it is not at all certain that some other company would ever come up with a one-time procedure that wouldn't be gobbled up. Just look at what happened with the gasoline cars buying out the electric car industry, look at the sugar industry getting the FDA to ban the labeling of stevia as a sugar-substitute, or the dairy industry lobbying the FDA not to allow producers to label whether their milk products contain that special hormone, or whether vegetables were genetically manipulated, etc. etc. I am not trying to rain on anybody's parade, but if some pharmaceutical company gets there first, I think we can just about forget about any one-time procedure, and most importantly, from a health standpoint, inserting hairs is not an ongoing threat - most drugs developed from pharmaceuticals always have side effects - and this is something we would take all our lives. I sure am hoping this Gho procedure is real and becomes reality. Take care, and keep up the optimistic thoughts.

Re: New Research backed by Pfizer

From:
Date: 15 Jan 2000
Time: 22:55:54
Remote Name: 1cust48.tnt4.huntington-beach.ca.da.uu.net

Comments

Both Pfizer and OSI Pharmaceuticals do not have press releases elaborating this information. Is it possible to post the link to the USA Today article for reference? Thanks.

Re: New Research backed by Pfizer

From:
Date: 17 Jan 2000
Time: 08:31:16
Remote Name: 216.206.249.190

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Cosmetic drugs could clear up skin-deep fears of aging

By Steve Sternberg, USA TODAY

The folks who snapped the male world to attention with Viagra are racing to produce the world's first "cosmeceuticals" - drugs designed specifically to fight liver spots, hair loss and wrinkles.

The scientists, financed by New York-based Pfizer, are inventing a whole field of research by applying the most powerful new tools of biological science to the old bugaboos of unsightly blemishes, baldness and sun-damaged skin.

In a year, they plan to begin the first human trials of a topical ointment that blocks the biological process that leads to liver spots. One or two years later, they hope to begin similar trials of a compound that switches on the scalp's hair-making machinery and another that smoothes out wrinkles.

"We're taking modern drug discovery technology and applying it to cosmetics," says Colin Goddard, the chief executive officer of OSI Pharmaceuticals in Uniondale, N.Y.

Last week, OSI announced it will get a six-year infusion of $50 million from Pfizer, maker of the impotence drug Viagra, to back the venture.

"The really quite interesting aspect of this is that it is a new area of endeavor for the pharmaceuticals industry," Goddard says.

"We think quality-of-life products will be very important and financially rewarding into the next century. We think these products will be worth hundreds of millions of dollars - even billions of dollars - in the marketplace."

Goddard says the demand will come from the baby boomers who made Viagra so successful. It was Viagra's success, he says, that prompted Pfizer "to explore something that's entrepreneurial and out of the mainstream."

Pfizer three years ago formed a "virtual" company, Anaderm Research, to serve as an umbrella for executives from Pfizer, OSI and four skin experts from New York University, who contribute ideas and research expertise to the venture.

Goddard and NYU's Irwin Freedberg, the university's chairman of dermatology and a limited partner in the venture, declined to discuss specifics of the experimental compounds, fearing that they would tip off competitors.

But they disclosed generally how they might work.

For instance, they say, it is well known how the skin makes the pigment melanin. The challenge is to develop an ointment that can be absorbed into the skin and interrupt the biochemical cascade that deposits excess melanin in the skin, forming liver spots.

OSI is attempting to winnow its roster of candidate compounds to the one that works the best.

When this process is complete, the company will apply to the Food and Drug Administration for permission to conduct human trials.

As for hair loss, Goddard and Freedberg say, new genetic techniques have begun to shed light on hair growth mechanisms.

It appears, Freedberg says, that balding men and women retain their ability to make hair, though the genetic mechanism for making hair follicles is turned off. The challenge is to find a way to switch these genes back on, and the researchers say they are well on their way to finding one.

Wrinkles occur when excess sun and aging hurt the underlying architecture of the skin. Goddard says the researchers are looking for compounds that can activate genes that build up the skin's infrastructure, restoring its youthful suppleness.

Though liver spots, hair loss and wrinkling don't affect the way people function, "they clearly affect the way that people feel about themselves," Freedberg says. "They are major problems for people who have them. They can change people's lives in toto" by wrecking their odds of getting jobs and finding marriage partners.

The researchers hope that the results of their work will be more than cosmetic, however. The research into skin pigmentation could lead to an effective treatment for vitiligo, which bleeds skin color from roughly 2% of the population.

For white people, it's a minor problem that only becomes visible when they tan, heightening the contrast between normal and depigmented patches of skin. For black people and people from India, Freedberg says, "it's horrible."

In India, he says, sufferers often are mistaken for lepers because leprosy also destroys skin pigmentation.

There's another potential boon that could arise from the research, Freedberg says.

"If we're successful, this will knock off all the snake oils out there because there will be products out there that work."

Re: New scientific research: How to turn from rest phase to growth phase.

From: 123olsen@mail.com
Date: 16 Jan 2000
Time: 05:54:42
Remote Name: ti24a62-0198.dialup.online.no

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Hello everybody.

The following article has nothing to do with Dr.Gho, but concerning some off the latest research in hair loss treatments. Maybe we should establish a new discussion group topics concerning 'Scientific reserch'. What do you say folks? This new group could also discuss whether or not we should establish a trust/company.

The October 1999 Journal of Clinical Investigation reported that scientists at the Weil Medical College of Cornell University succeeded in nudging hair follicles out of their rest phases -- at least in mice. They used an altered form of cold virus to deliver what they have named the "Sonic hedgehog" gene (after a video-game character), which plays a central role in hair follicle development. This therapy spurred the mice to sprout new hairs, presumably by causing those in the rest phase to enter the growth phase. Researchers say further study is needed before it is known if this therapy could potentially help those with male pattern baldness.

The full text of this article can be read at http://www.jci.org/cgi/reprint/104/7/855

An abstract of the same article is located at http://www.jci.org/cgi/content/abstract/104/7/855

Take care

Re: New scientific research: How to turn from rest phase to growth phase.

From:
Date: 17 Jan 2000
Time: 08:43:29
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Induction of the hair growth phase in postnatal mice by localized transient expression of Sonic hedgehog

Noboru Sato, Philip L. Leopold and Ronald G. Crystal

Division of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine, Weill Medical College of Cornell University–New York Presbyterian Hospital, New York, New York 10021, USA

Address correspondence to: Ronald G. Crystal, Weill Medical College of Cornell University–New York Presbyterian Hospital, 520 East 70th Street, ST 505, New York, New York 10021, USA. Phone: (212) 746-2258; Fax: (212) 746-8383; E-mail: geneticmedicine@mail.med.cornell.edu.

Received for publication June 25, 1999, and accepted in revised form August 26, 1999.

Hair follicles form in prenatal skin and mature in the postnatal period, establishing a growth cycle in 3 phases: telogen (resting), anagen (growth), and catagen (regression). Based on the knowledge that Sonic hedgehog (Shh) expression is necessary for the embryonic development of hair follicles, and that anagen in the postnatal cycling follicle has morphologic similarities to the epithelial invagination process in embryonic skin, we hypothesized that localized, but transient, enhanced expression of the Shh gene in postnatal skin would accelerate initiation of anagen in the hair follicle cycle, with concomitant accelerated hair growth. To assess this concept, an E1– adenovirus vector, AdShh, was used to transfer the murine Shh cDNA to skin of postnatal day 19 C57BL/6 mice. The treated skin showed increased mRNA expression of Shh, Patched (the Shh receptor), and Gli1 (a transcription factor in the Shh pathway). In mice receiving AdShh, but not in controls, acceleration into anagen was evident, since hair follicle size and melanogenesis increased and the hair-specific keratin ghHb-1 and the melanin synthesis–related tyrosinase mRNAs accumulated. Finally, C57BL/6 mice showed marked acceleration of the onset of new hair growth in the region of AdShh administration to skin 2 weeks after treatment, but not in control vector–treated or untreated areas. After 6 months, AdShh-treated skin showed normal hair and normal skin morphology. Together, these observations are consistent with the concept that upregulation of Shh activity in postnatal skin functions as a biologic switch that induces resting hair follicles to enter anagen with consequent hair growth.

Re: Dr Unger's Research going well

From: Jacko
Date: 24 Jan 2000
Time: 07:29:05
Remote Name: net-ppp88.cc.uregina.ca

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The following is about 8 months old but does provide a little informationom Gho's competition.

Jacko

Culturing Hair Matrix Cells to Produce Unlimited Amounts of Donor Hair Walter Unger, MD

from ISHRS Conference

Dr. Walter Unger presented information regarding an ongoing study on culturing hair matrix cells to produce unlimited donor hair. Because the study is still in early stages, Dr. Unger's presentation was brief. He is working with Dr. D.N. Sauder to discover what is required to culture and reimplant hair matrix cells.

According to Dr. Unger, they can now produce them fairly rapidly for all patients. They will be doing studies on the cultured cells in mice within the next few weeks. They hope to start testing in humans within the next few months, but this will require ethical permission from the governing medical boards.

Re: NuHart in the US is on the bandwagon too

From: rdd93379
Date: 05 Feb 2000
Time: 08:08:18
Remote Name: hobbes.telepac.pt

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Hi everybody.I send yesterday a e-mail about hair multiplication to Nu/Hart Care Center. They said: "We are curently conducting research and are in the final stages of a possible breakthrough.Hopefuly within this year an announcement may be made" All of us hope that very soon,hair multiplication is a reality.

Regards,

Re: Cloning Reported in Toronto Star Feb 5, 2000

From: Amit
Date: 05 Feb 2000
Time: 17:04:42
Remote Name: pm3-3-31.phl.magpage.com

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Somebody reported that in the FEB 5 2000 issue of the The TORONTO STAR (Toronto's newspaper), there was a full blown ad that cloning was available. He didn't elaborate any further about the ad or what else it said. He just went on to state he thinks this is BS.

I was wondering about this cloning...will one have to have significant hair loss to have this transplant. I am 23, diffuse hair loss, no recession, no baldspots. I cant get a transplant cause I havent lost enough hair yet. Im on propecia for 1.5 months, but all Ive seen is shedding. All I would want to do is fill in the top part of my hair. I wonder if this will be possible, or will I have to wait to lose more hair before I could use this cloning technique...whenever it comes out.

I guess it all depends on when it comes out...and how much hair Ive lost at that time.

Amit

Re: Cloning Reported in Toronto Star Feb 5, 2000

From: Morgan
Date: 06 Feb 2000
Time: 06:07:31
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There was an *article* that mentioned cloning in yesterdays Toronto Star. It is here:

http://www.thestar.com/back_issues/ED20000205/money/20000205BUS01b_FI-GUE.html

It doesn't address the hair cloning issue, though.

I don't have access to the ads that were run, so I can't say whether such an ad appeared. I'm very skeptical.

Anyone have a copy of the Feb. 5th issue of the Toronto Star?

Re: Cloning Reported in Toronto Star Feb 5, 2000

From: Amit
Date: 06 Feb 2000
Time: 15:48:59
Remote Name: pm3-1-18.phl.magpage.com

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Huh? I thought hair cloning is hair multiplication. That is, cloning the hair is how hair will be multiplied. I guess Im wrong. I guess cloning involves duplicating genetics, while multiplication involves taking hair cells and culturing them ?

Anyway, I got back to this guy and he says the ad states that a new process is available which provides additional hair from cloning. The number on the ad is 1-877-424-7453. I havent called the number or anything, but anyone feel free to call the number to confirm if this really true. He says there is a U. of Toronto doctor working on cloning that he knows of, but is still skeptical. And he says there is a website listed, but he doesnt want to post it cause he thinks they're full of it.

I dont know why he doesnt want to post the website, his reason doenst make sense to me. And I hope he's not lying about all this. He seems sincere.

Amit

Re: Info on Dr Unger's research

From: tk421
Date: 17 Feb 2000
Time: 12:06:49
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Hi,

I have contacted the Unger clinic in Toreoto yesterday, and got soime interesting information. It appears that Dr Unger, in a certain way, has already started research on humans. What he is basically doing is that he asks every transplant patient who comes to his clinic to donate a plug of hair that will be used in hair multiplication (or cloning, as the secretary called it) researc. According to what I understood, the cultured cells are injected into mice. The secretary said that she would definitely write Dr Unger a me, asking him some relevant questions, and contact me again next week. I will fill you in on this as soon as I get more information. Take care everyone.

Re: Dr. Robert Hoffman

From: Bob
Date: 18 Feb 2000
Time: 19:50:38
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Dr. Robert Hoffman is a researcher who works for anti-cancer I sent him a letter and in it I aked him about how close he is to a cure for baldness. He replied that he's working on a method to send healthy genes to hair follicles to make dormant follicles grow again. He told me that he can't tell me wether the have all the genes to make this work or not, because of confidentiality, but he said in the very near future they will announce something very exciting.

Re: Dr. Robert Hoffman

From: jrf
Date: 18 Feb 2000
Time: 23:20:17
Remote Name: cs102-4.fsmodem.washington.edu

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This will be very interesting to see how this all turns out. I'm worried about what the FDA is going to do. The FDA had problems with finasteride use in MPB (despite its proven safety in its use for BPH), although it was obvious still approved. Given the recent widely publicized problems with gene therapy (in which one boy died), the agency may not allow a gene therapy for a "cosmetic" disorder, at least initially.

Re: Dr. Robert Hoffman

From: Morgan
Date: 19 Feb 2000
Time: 09:32:17
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I think you're probably right about the FDA's reluctance; honestly, I'm not going to be the first guy diving into the gene therapy chair either! :^)

But, if things reach a point where I think the procedure has been proven safe, and the FDA is still dragging its feet, I'll go outside of the States to have it done.

Regardless, this sounds like another blow is about to be struck against our common foe. And *that* is good news!

Re: The Korean Research has surpassed Gho

From: COLLIE
Date: 28 Mar 2000
Time: 18:37:35
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Recently I heard from Spencer Kobren that a Doctor out of South Korea has surpassed Dr. Gho's research and has pulled ahead in the race of hair multiplication. I can not recall the Korean Doctors name. The mentioning of the Korean Doctor is about 30 minutes into the broadcast. Please note that I do not know if this rumor is true, but I wanted to relay it on to all you.

Best of Luck

Collie

Re: The Korean Research has surpassed Gho
Dr Jung Chul Kim - telephone 00 82 53 4206 977

From: Andy - hair loss warriors UK
Date: 31 Mar 2000
Time: 01:14:42
Remote Name: host212-140-201-182.btinteractive.net

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This is your man - as requested in an earlier post can one of the Americans please Phone this man as the hour difference from Great Britain is too wide with Korea.

Re: Correspondence with Dr Unger

From: tk421
Date: 31 Mar 2000
Time: 12:14:17
Remote Name: midasclass22.library.mcgill.ca

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Some interesting news,

Dr Unger finally responded to the calls and e-mails I sent him over a month ago (busy man, I guess!) He said that he new Dr Gho and his research, and that he had not been able to start researching cloning (that's how he calls it) on humans, possibly because he still can't the permission from the canadian governing board of medical ethics, I guess. Well, the good thing is that he actually put me on a list of potential subjects, and that he will contact me as soon as they start human trials! A tempting offer, considering Gho's deadlines are always pushed back. I also asked him if he knew weither Gho's technique was about creating new follicles or "boosting" existing ones, like explained in a previous post by Pavlo, and in what his own technique (which is only used on mice now) consists of. I guess I'll know the answer to that in about a month, if ever.

BTW, I'll try calling this Korean guy over the week-end. I just hope he speaks english decently...

Re: Cloning in Toronto

From: Rkt
Date: 06 Apr 2000
Time: 18:25:56
Remote Name: dialup-209.244.140.8.providence1.level3.net

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Guys,

I ran across this site and noticed they mention the following "New Process provides additional hair from cloning". I have no idea what they are misrepresenting as "cloning" since we know it's not available yet, but I will call tomorrow and find out (wish me luck). They are located in Toronto Canada. Any Canadians ever hear of this group?

I think if they truly had a cloning process by which they could clone hair we would have heard about it. Also, if they had unlimited hair available (via cloning) for their patients the after pics would be much better (very sparse coverage). They'd probably have a more professional site too.

Interesting though.

http://www.hair-for-less.com

Re: Cloning in Toronto

From:
Date: 06 Apr 2000
Time: 20:34:33
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This sounds like BULLSHIT to me! If the after pictures are indicative of the results,then these quacks are worthless.Just a thought...what kind of clinic is open 7 days a week!

Re: Cloning in Toronto

From: mwe7
Date: 07 Apr 2000
Time: 00:02:22
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I highly doubt that they can actually "clone" hair. Although, if memory serves, there was a post on this site or alt.baldspot (I forgot which, sorry) from an individual who stated blatantly that hair "cloning" would first become commercially available in Toronto Canada in or near Jan of 2000 I think it was. As usual, he got flamed and I myself thought he was full of it. How funny that would be if he was actually correct.

I suggest we all send emails inquiring about their hair "cloning" to either get them to change their obvious false advertising or to get more specific information if they think that they can actually clone hair. I sent mine today so I'll see what they come back with. Here's their email address: info@hair-for-less.com.

Later.

Matt

Re: Cloning in Toronto

From: Paul
Date: 07 Apr 2000
Time: 04:04:09
Remote Name: 212.126.147.192

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>>>>I highly doubt that they can actually "clone" hair. Although, if memory serves, there was a post on this site or alt.baldspot (I forgot which, sorry) from an individual who stated blatantly that hair "cloning" would first become commercially available in Toronto Canada in or near Jan of 2000 I think it was. As usual, he got flamed and I myself thought he was full of it. How funny that would be if he was actually correct.<<<<

Hi Matt, I think it was actually a post by Pavlo on this site .

He heard about it on a Research Call-line (or something of the sort) , and it was predicted that Hair Multiplication (not cloning) would become available in Toronto around (if I remember right) in September 2000. He didn't "state anything blatantly" and didn't "get flamed about it" at all .

He made clear from the start that He didn't trust this information as reliable. We shared his attitude, none of us believed it.

Cheers, Paul

Re: Cloning in Toronto

From: Rkt
Date: 07 Apr 2000
Time: 16:59:40
Remote Name: dialup-209.244.134.78.providence1.level3.net

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Here's what they had to say. Sounds like standard hair transplantation to me.

What do you guys think? Scam? Yep!!!

Welcome to this HAIR FOR LESS SEMINAR On Cloning:

The medical dictionary, refers to a clone as a duplication of a living form which has all the features and characteristics including the DNA of the organism from which it was derived.

Sometimes clones can appear naturally. Scientists have also created clones in laboratory experiments. The most famous clone to date is Dolly, the sheep, but other animals have been also been cloned.

The practical application of a clone may lie in the ability to use cloned organs for replacement parts when the original ones, through disease, age, injury or developmental abnormalities cause them to fail.

Since hair is made up of specialized tissue, such as rapidly dividing living follicular cells, blood vessels, nerves, muscle and oil producing glands the structure is considered an organ.

It was originally thought that the follicle needed to be intact to produce the hair shaft. Recently scientific documentation refutes that theory since some growth of hair has occurred from a group of cells referred to as stem cells which line the hair shaft at a specific location in the skin layer above the follicle.

These cells when stimulated by a protein called cytokine can produce a new follicle and hence a hair shaft. The release of the cytokine occurs when an injury to the skin is created. This injury occurs in the removal of donor hair bearing skin used in hair transplantation thus creating the potential for a clone. If these stem cells are not destroyed in the over dissection of the hair follicles used for transplantation then the potential for a clone to be created is there. The advantage of microscopic dissection, used in hair transplantation, has been shown to actually be contraindicated.

F these stem cells are stripped away in microscopic dissection or exposed to heat and air for too long allowing desiccation to occur, then the potential for a clone is lost.

For the process of cloning to occur in the transplantation of hair you must: * Implant the hair shaft and surrounding tissue, * Provide quick dissection and return of the hair to the recipient area to limit drying. All shafts without intact follicles can lead to development of new follicles along with existing ones. These additional follicles will produce hair which by definition is a clone of the original.

At HAIR FOR LESS it is our intent to provide the most amount of hair into the area of hair loss. The above methods needed to produce cloning are provided at HAIR FOR LESS.

During your complimentary appointment we will gladly review this information and just how HAIR FOR LESS should be your choice for your hair loss

Re: chrome 5 - human chromosomes contributing to male pattern baldness

From: Bob
Date: 15 Apr 2000
Time: 22:43:19
Remote Name: spider-tf071.proxy.aol.com

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Reuter anounced that scientists in U.S decoded three human chromosomes one of them is chrome 5 which has been suspected for contributing to male pattern baldness. the details of this discovery will be announced this summer.

Re: chrome 5 - human chromosomes contributing to male pattern baldness

From:
Date: 16 Apr 2000
Time: 15:09:11
Remote Name: 65.white-plains-08-09rs16rt.ny.dial-access.att.net

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does this pertain to female pattern baldness as well?

Re: chrome 5 - human chromosomes contributing to male pattern baldness

From: Bob
Date: 16 Apr 2000
Time: 16:41:41
Remote Name: spider-tl054.proxy.aol.com

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It means that it is a very good chance that they already have identified at least one of the genes that it is responsible for male pattern baldness and we all know that they already been able to transfer good genes to hair follicles ( they did that last year to change the colr of hair with total success) so it shouldn't be long before they can grow hair via gene therapy ( just a prediction). As far as females this chrome 5 that i was talking about has been linked to male pattern baldness, but the way decoding human DNA is going it shouln't be long ( I wouldn't be surprized If they anounce it tommorrow) before they find the gene responsible for female pattern baldness.

Re: chrome 5 - human chromosomes contributing to male pattern baldness

From: Bob
Date: 16 Apr 2000
Time: 18:25:48
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go to cnn.com then go to health and you find it under " Scientists decoded three human chromosome" in that article you will find that they decoded three chromosomes ( we have 23 total) one of them is chrome number 5. Then read the Time magazine (April 10 issue) in that upi'll find that chrome 5 is linked to male patern baldness.