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Iron_Man

30.03.2012, 19:45
(edited by Iron_Man, 03.04.2012, 13:21)
 

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure (Hair Multiplication & Stem Cells Treatment)

Comparison - Donor Regrowth (2nd extraction procedure in the same donor area!)...
#######################
Day 3 – original photo:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/28/3202143/3rd%20day%20-%202nd%20treatment%20003.JPG
Reference area (blue square)
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-3-reference-area.jpg
Marked and observed extraction area (enlarged):
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-3-comparison.jpg
#######################
Day 10 – original photo:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/28/3202143/2nd%20procedure%20-%20day%2010%20015.jpg
Reference area (blue square):
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-10-test-area.jpg
Marked and observed extraction area (enlarged):
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-10-comparison.jpg
#######################
Day 13 – original photo:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/28/3202143/day%2013%20part2%20012.jpg
Reference area (blue square):
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-13-reference-area.jpg
Marked and observed extraction area (enlarged):
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-13-comparison.jpg
#######################

All 53 marked extraction sites (there is no hair shaft left since day 1!!) were regularly observed and documented (each and every hole/site from 1-53!) with gc83uk’s provided after photos (day 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 10 and day 13). That means, in this pre-report you can just see day 3, day 10 and day 13 for the purposes of (pre-)comparison.

Pre-RESULT (Day 13)

53 marked (encircled) extraction sites, observed since day 1.

45 regrowth sites
8 still unclear sites

= 84.9% regrowth sites up to day 13
= 15.1% unclear/no regrowth sites up to day 13

Again,
this is still just a very small and not detailed PRE-REPORT!!
It's up to you to REVIEW all (so far) provided data.

PLEASE use the NUMBER (1-53) if you have any questions concerning any encircled extraction site/FU !

Direct URL/LINK to this post/thread:
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-100262-page-0-category-17-order-last_answer-descasc-DESC.html

LINKS for direct comparison:

Day 3: http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-3-comparison.jpg

Day 13: http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-13-comparison.jpg




Iron_Man is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

---
I documented the world’s 1st day-by-day (HST) donor hair regeneration process …


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MikadoMan

30.03.2012, 20:29

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

no question but more or less a remark. i think we need more pictures from different days in a span of lets say

2 weeks after (day 14)
3 weeks
4 weeks

3 months
6 months

etc this would also help, so therefore this pre report may be a good idead but we need more pictures for a full report to rub it in the face of clinics.

the more pictures the more pressure and pain will rely on them




MikadoMan is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

---
You wanna get all the answers why none of your "ethical" clinics have adopted Ghos HST hairmuliplication so far?

THEN READ THIS http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/img/uploaded_files/2879_file32.pdf


Post reply
Iron_Man

30.03.2012, 21:57

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» All 53 marked extraction sites (there is no hair shaft left
» since day 1!!
) were regularly observed and documented (each and
» every hole/site from 1-53!) with gc83uk’s provided after photos (day 1, 2,
» 3, 5, 6, 7 and day 10). That means, in this pre-report you can just see day
» 3 and day 10 for the purposes of (pre-)comparison.

btw - The photo below shows outlined the position of the marked/observed/documented extraction area...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-10-test-area.jpg




Iron_Man is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

---
I documented the world’s 1st day-by-day (HST) donor hair regeneration process …


Post reply
Skywalker

The Corridor of Uncertainty,
31.03.2012, 01:32

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

This is fine documentation from Iron Man on gc83UK's excellent photos, and it DOES look good, anybody who wants to say otherwise has their work cut out in my opinion.




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Post reply
gc83uk

01.04.2012, 16:24

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

I've shaved the hairs down a little bit on this pic, let me know what you think.

Day 13 donor




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Post reply
Iron_Man

01.04.2012, 16:35
(edited by Iron_Man, 01.04.2012, 17:03)

@ gc83uk

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» I've shaved the hairs down a little bit on this pic, let me know what you
» think.
»
» Day 13 donor

Excellent! Thanks!

gc, I think you know to which "marked" area I always refer ...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-10-test-area.jpg

IF possible, could you PLEASE try to shave just the few hairs in the left corner below -I mean the small area/hairs in the left corner below/bottom within my blue square in the photo/link I posted, because in this corner, as far as I can see, a few extractions sites are overlapped with LONG hairs. Or it's just due to the different camera angle ... still checking. A 2nd photo would be nice, I think ...

btw - I know it's not so easy to make such photos without help. ;-)




Iron_Man is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

---
I documented the world’s 1st day-by-day (HST) donor hair regeneration process …


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gc83uk

01.04.2012, 16:58

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

Yea I missed a bit, here is a better one, also shaved more from bottom right corner. Let me know.day 13 donor




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Post reply
Iron_Man

01.04.2012, 17:12

@ gc83uk

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» Yea I missed a bit, here is a better one, also shaved more from bottom
» right corner. Let me
» know.day 13 donor

You rock! Thanks! Excellent photo!

Anyway, thank you so much for your patience and shaving your hairs again, because lots of details become more obvious NOW and even more obvious within the next 1-2 days, because your hairs grow FAST anyhow, and we will see -I think- 2 or more hairs within each and every extraction site even better, because they stick sometimes together, but I think everybody can see each and every follicular unit pretty good anyhow. Anyway, besides a few hairless spots - the WHOLE extraction area in general (not just my marked area) looks definitely GREAT and healthy!

Okay, it's time for me to encircle and label all 53 extraction sites for comparison ...




Iron_Man is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

---
I documented the world’s 1st day-by-day (HST) donor hair regeneration process …


Post reply
MikadoMan

01.04.2012, 17:56

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

hey gc i made another observation, in some of those "hairless" spots, you can see a little bit of darker teint very slightly, it seems that those follicles need longer to regenerate. it would be very nice if you can keep an eye on those "hairless" spots.

any way another question, when is your thirs session and how many session do you have planned over the years, i am just asking because right now, you seem to not have lost any hair or any follicle at all, so you start around with a 97% available donor after 2 sessions already.

i am afraid you will die long before your donor is fully depleted




MikadoMan is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

---
You wanna get all the answers why none of your "ethical" clinics have adopted Ghos HST hairmuliplication so far?

THEN READ THIS http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/img/uploaded_files/2879_file32.pdf


Post reply
gc83uk

01.04.2012, 20:18

@ MikadoMan

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» hey gc i made another observation, in some of those "hairless" spots, you
» can see a little bit of darker teint very slightly, it seems that those
» follicles need longer to regenerate. it would be very nice if you can keep
» an eye on those "hairless" spots.
»
» any way another question, when is your thirs session and how many session
» do you have planned over the years, i am just asking because right now, you
» seem to not have lost any hair or any follicle at all, so you start around
» with a 97% available donor after 2 sessions already.
»
» i am afraid you will die long before your donor is fully depleted

Yes I seen the same thing, fingers crossed.

Third session, I'll find out tomorrow, Gho emailed me saying sorry he hadn't been in touch yet, but he'll give me an update tomorrow on when I can have the next procedure.

I started off by thinking I'd need about 5 sessions, but I really can't say, if I can have say 1700 done in one go then I'll still want at least one more procedure after that, maybe 2 if need be.

Come on Iron Man where is the circles lol ;-)




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Post reply
Iron_Man

01.04.2012, 20:30

@ gc83uk

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» Come on Iron Man where is the circles lol ;-)

Where is the circles??

gc, I'm still working on it - such work is a completely tiresome f**** work ...:angry:

... but also EXTREMELY exciting!

I think I now know why Dr. Gho never ever documented donor-regrowth in such a way like I do ...
... NOBODY pays that!

Day 10 was a horror with the long overlapping hairs. Day 13 (today) is much easier, but nevertheless ... :angry:




Iron_Man is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

---
I documented the world’s 1st day-by-day (HST) donor hair regeneration process …


Post reply
MikadoMan

01.04.2012, 20:35

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» » Come on Iron Man where is the circles lol ;-)
»
» Where is the circles??
»
» gc, I'm still working on it - such work is a completely tiresome f****
» work
...:angry:
»
» ... but also EXTREMELY exciting!
»
» I think I now know why Dr. Gho never ever documented donor-regrowth in such
» a way like I do ...
» ... NOBODY pays that!

Thanks gc

@ironman : thanks for the work, i tried to circle them also but i gave up because its tedious :-( and i had to zoom in all the time when i thought there was a one hair follicle, while it was a multi hair follicle




MikadoMan is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

---
You wanna get all the answers why none of your "ethical" clinics have adopted Ghos HST hairmuliplication so far?

THEN READ THIS http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/img/uploaded_files/2879_file32.pdf


Post reply
gc83uk

01.04.2012, 22:19

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» » Come on Iron Man where is the circles lol ;-)
»
» Where is the circles??
»
» gc, I'm still working on it - such work is a completely tiresome f****
» work
...:angry:
»
» ... but also EXTREMELY exciting!
»
» I think I now know why Dr. Gho never ever documented donor-regrowth in such
» a way like I do ...
» ... NOBODY pays that!
»
» Day 10 was a horror with the long overlapping hairs. Day 13 (today) is much
» easier, but nevertheless ... :angry:

ha I hope you know I was joking there, I know it must take a long time! Day 10 looked almost impossible, but I think you'll find this one easier. Thanks again!




gc83uk is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO


Post reply
Iron_Man

01.04.2012, 23:00

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» Comparison - Donor Regrowth (2nd extraction/procedure in the same
» donor area!)...
» #######################
» Day 3 – original photo:
» http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/28/3202143/3rd%20day%20-%202nd%20treatment%20003.JPG
» Marked and observed extraction area (enlarged):
» http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-2-comparison.jpg
» #######################

Day 13 – original photo:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/28/3202143/day%2013%20part2%20012.jpg
Reference area (blue square):
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-13-reference-area.jpg
Marked and observed extraction area (enlarged):
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-13-comparison.jpg

53 marked (encircled) extraction sites, observed since day 1.

45 regrowth sites
8 still unclear sites

= 84.9% regrowth sites up to day 13
= 15.1% unclear/no regrowth sites up to day 13

Again,
this is still just a very small and not detailed PRE-REPORT!!
It's up to you to REVIEW all (so far) provided data.

PLEASE use the NUMBER (1-53) if you have any questions concerning any encircled extraction site/FU !




Iron_Man is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

---
I documented the world’s 1st day-by-day (HST) donor hair regeneration process …


Post reply
moawk

Germany,
01.04.2012, 23:24

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» » Comparison - Donor Regrowth (2nd extraction/procedure in the same
» » donor area!)...
» » #######################
» » Day 3 – original photo:
» »
» http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/28/3202143/3rd%20day%20-%202nd%20treatment%20003.JPG
» » Marked and observed extraction area (enlarged):
» » http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-2-comparison.jpg
» » #######################
»
» Day 13 – original photo:
» http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/28/3202143/day%2013%20part2%20012.jpg
» Reference area (blue square):
» http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-13-reference-area.jpg
» Marked and observed extraction area (enlarged):
» http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-13-comparison.jpg
»
» 53 marked (encircled) extraction sites, observed since day 1.
»
» 45 regrowth sites
» 8 still unclear sites
»
» = 84.9% regrowth sites up to day 13
» = 15.1% unclear/no regrowth sites up to day 13
»
» Again,
» this is still just a very small and not detailed PRE-REPORT!!
» It's up to you to REVIEW all (so far) provided data.
»
» PLEASE use the NUMBER (1-53) if you have any questions concerning
» any encircled extraction site/FU !

I think IronMan and gc just killed the HT industry.

[image]




moawk is located in GERMANY and he is available to meet: NO

---
1. Predicted the failure of replicel, months in advance.
2. Predicted how their stock would rise/drop even with exact numbers.
3. Predicted the wild claims and crazyness that gc83uk's donor regeneration will cause among the HT industry during this summer. Including rassman's opinion, Dr. Woods special patients and Pro hair clinic photos.
4. Predicted Gho will open up a clinic in asia.
5. No prediction on Histogen. Looks promising if they didn't fake results.
6. Predicted the only viable HM technique other than Gho would surface when hairs are: "generated through the appropriate cell populations" -Team Tokyo 2012


[image]
- Moawk

Advice for patients: If you are considering a hair transplant, only consider Gho's HST and nothing else. First HT treatment in the world that offers: zero scarring, small downtime and donor regrowth.
http://www.hasci.com

Advice for Investors in HM: Invest in Team Tokyo.
http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html
Ditch replicel, aderans. They are done for and have no future.


Post reply
Iron_Man

01.04.2012, 23:48

@ moawk

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» I think IronMan and gc just killed the HT industry.
[image]

Seriously - try to imagine all these green encircled 45 regrowth sites were done with traditional FUE ... :no:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-13-comparison.jpg

Anyway, I think (so far) a regrowth-rate of anywhere between 80-85% is totally realistic and its difficult to improve that number due to about 10-15% very small telogen hair follicles in every extraction area.




Iron_Man is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

---
I documented the world’s 1st day-by-day (HST) donor hair regeneration process …


Post reply
moawk

Germany,
02.04.2012, 00:47
(edited by moawk, 02.04.2012, 11:59)

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

I think somebody should put those files in rasman blogs...see what he says my predictions:

[image]

I bet he will come up with one of the most stupidiest answers and never admit what has happened in the above picture.




moawk is located in GERMANY and he is available to meet: NO

---
1. Predicted the failure of replicel, months in advance.
2. Predicted how their stock would rise/drop even with exact numbers.
3. Predicted the wild claims and crazyness that gc83uk's donor regeneration will cause among the HT industry during this summer. Including rassman's opinion, Dr. Woods special patients and Pro hair clinic photos.
4. Predicted Gho will open up a clinic in asia.
5. No prediction on Histogen. Looks promising if they didn't fake results.
6. Predicted the only viable HM technique other than Gho would surface when hairs are: "generated through the appropriate cell populations" -Team Tokyo 2012


[image]
- Moawk

Advice for patients: If you are considering a hair transplant, only consider Gho's HST and nothing else. First HT treatment in the world that offers: zero scarring, small downtime and donor regrowth.
http://www.hasci.com

Advice for Investors in HM: Invest in Team Tokyo.
http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html
Ditch replicel, aderans. They are done for and have no future.


Post reply
johndoe888

02.04.2012, 04:08

@ moawk

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» » » I think IronMan and gc just killed the HT industry.
» » -------------------------------------------------------------------

Iron man and gc,
You two are to be commended for going out of your way to document and expose this ongoing mystery. I have been following this site for a few years keeping my fingers crossed something good is "just around the corner." Regardless of the outcome, this pro-active approach is badly needed to keep the forum constructive. The schoolyard name calling gets old fast. Keep us updated and hopefully this will be a game changer! :ok:

forum,
Some of you might not like iron man for whatever reason but all the time and energy he is putting into this for everybody? You gotta respect that.
*Lets even out that crooked HT field.*




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Post reply
moawk

Germany,
02.04.2012, 04:32
(edited by moawk, 02.04.2012, 12:10)

@ johndoe888

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

somebody in here post ironman's last reports on all forums...lets end the HT industry once and for all...we start from here and NOW !

This is Gho !!!

[image]




moawk is located in GERMANY and he is available to meet: NO

---
1. Predicted the failure of replicel, months in advance.
2. Predicted how their stock would rise/drop even with exact numbers.
3. Predicted the wild claims and crazyness that gc83uk's donor regeneration will cause among the HT industry during this summer. Including rassman's opinion, Dr. Woods special patients and Pro hair clinic photos.
4. Predicted Gho will open up a clinic in asia.
5. No prediction on Histogen. Looks promising if they didn't fake results.
6. Predicted the only viable HM technique other than Gho would surface when hairs are: "generated through the appropriate cell populations" -Team Tokyo 2012


[image]
- Moawk

Advice for patients: If you are considering a hair transplant, only consider Gho's HST and nothing else. First HT treatment in the world that offers: zero scarring, small downtime and donor regrowth.
http://www.hasci.com

Advice for Investors in HM: Invest in Team Tokyo.
http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html
Ditch replicel, aderans. They are done for and have no future.


Post reply
moopookoo

02.04.2012, 08:43

@ moawk

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» » » » » I think IronMan and gc just killed the HT industry.
» » » » -------------------------------------------------------------------
» »
» » Iron man and gc,
» » You two are to be commended for going out of your way to document
» and
» » expose this ongoing mystery. I have been following this site for a few
» » years keeping my fingers crossed something good is "just around the
» » corner." Regardless of the outcome, this pro-active approach is badly
» » needed to keep the forum constructive. The schoolyard name calling gets
» old
» » fast. Keep us updated and hopefully this will be a game changer! :ok:
» »
» » forum,
» » Some of you might not like iron man for whatever reason but all the
» time
» » and energy he is putting into this for everybody? You gotta
» respect
» » that.
» » *Lets even out that crooked HT field.*
»
» somebody in here post ironman's last reports on all forums...lets end the
» HT industry once and for all...we start from here and NOW !
»
» This is Gho !!!
»
» [image]



I agree, Iron Man is doing something extraordinary for all of us,
Looks like we on on the brink of revolution in HT industry,
its time to en this shamefull industry..for too long they have been exploiting
people like us here on this forum and many others.




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Post reply
MikadoMan

02.04.2012, 10:19

@ moopookoo

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

One question remains. Where is SpanishDude and his *cough* "accurate" accusations?

I would say gc83uk single handedly killed FUT clinics and caused extensive blood loss in FUE clinics (i think they are not gonna make it)

Now all we need is spam action to end those PDF to all clinics, newspapers, docs and even to this Spencer Kobren guy. I really wanna hear how they try to downtalk this, this time




MikadoMan is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

---
You wanna get all the answers why none of your "ethical" clinics have adopted Ghos HST hairmuliplication so far?

THEN READ THIS http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/img/uploaded_files/2879_file32.pdf


Post reply
moopookoo

02.04.2012, 10:52

@ MikadoMan

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» One question remains. Where is SpanishDude and his *cough* "accurate"
» accusations?
»
» I would say gc83uk single handedly killed FUT clinics and caused extensive
» blood loss in FUE clinics (i think they are not gonna make it)
»
» Now all we need is spam action to end those PDF to all clinics, newspapers,
» docs and even to this Spencer Kobren guy. I really wanna hear how they try
» to downtalk this, this time


Spencer K is eternal sceptic besides he would lose a lot $$$ if HST is success....so think abt it for a sec..you would be sceptic too if you were him, he is making living from this dirty industry.




moopookoo is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO


Post reply
moawk

Germany,
02.04.2012, 11:04

@ MikadoMan

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» One question remains. Where is SpanishDude and his *cough* "accurate"
» accusations?
»
» I would say gc83uk single handedly killed FUT clinics and caused extensive
» blood loss in FUE clinics (i think they are not gonna make it)
»
» Now all we need is spam action to end those PDF to all clinics, newspapers,
» docs and even to this Spencer Kobren guy. I really wanna hear how they try
» to downtalk this, this time

Once this stuff spreads to other forums...HT doctors and Spencer Kobren will have a long meeting...which will start with the following opening:
[image]


and will come with "ANOTHER" retarded excuse for this. Last one i heard is that FUE also regrows or at first "it looks like it grows follicles back" :-D , and everyone will buy it stay bald for 10 years more and discuss how it suks to be bald :-P.

Mark my words.




moawk is located in GERMANY and he is available to meet: NO

---
1. Predicted the failure of replicel, months in advance.
2. Predicted how their stock would rise/drop even with exact numbers.
3. Predicted the wild claims and crazyness that gc83uk's donor regeneration will cause among the HT industry during this summer. Including rassman's opinion, Dr. Woods special patients and Pro hair clinic photos.
4. Predicted Gho will open up a clinic in asia.
5. No prediction on Histogen. Looks promising if they didn't fake results.
6. Predicted the only viable HM technique other than Gho would surface when hairs are: "generated through the appropriate cell populations" -Team Tokyo 2012


[image]
- Moawk

Advice for patients: If you are considering a hair transplant, only consider Gho's HST and nothing else. First HT treatment in the world that offers: zero scarring, small downtime and donor regrowth.
http://www.hasci.com

Advice for Investors in HM: Invest in Team Tokyo.
http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html
Ditch replicel, aderans. They are done for and have no future.


Post reply
Iron_Man

02.04.2012, 11:12

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-13-comparison.jpg
»
» Anyway, I think (so far) a regrowth-rate of anywhere between 80-85%
» is totally realistic and its difficult to improve that number due to
» about 10-15% very small telogen hair follicles in every extraction area.
[image]
[image]
The pic above (normal hair transplant follicles) shows such telogen hair follicles. And exactly these telogen hair follicles makes it impossible to get 100% donor-regrowth, because telogen hair follicles (not the visible hair SHAFTS!) are very, very small. In this case, if you extract follicular units, e.g. a 2-hair follicular unit, and one of this 2-hair FU is in the telogen phase (resting stage) - too much tissue is removed from this extraction site = no regrowth, plus eventually a small pinpoint scar. That's the problem, because on the skin surface, and as you can see in the pic above yourself, you simply CAN'T see which follicle/hair is in which phase/stage, because the diameter of the hair shafts are almost equal. That's the problem for not always 100% regrowth (Dr. Gho explained this problem anyhow in the Kobren/Gho interview).




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MikadoMan

02.04.2012, 11:15

@ moawk

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» » One question remains. Where is SpanishDude and his *cough* "accurate"
» » accusations?
» »
» » I would say gc83uk single handedly killed FUT clinics and caused
» extensive
» » blood loss in FUE clinics (i think they are not gonna make it)
» »
» » Now all we need is spam action to end those PDF to all clinics,
» newspapers,
» » docs and even to this Spencer Kobren guy. I really wanna hear how they
» try
» » to downtalk this, this time
»
» Once this stuff spreads to other forums...HT doctors and Spencer Kobren
» will have a long meeting...which will start with the following opening:
» [image]
»
»
» and will come with "ANOTHER" retarded excuse for this. Last one i heard is
» that FUE also regrows or at first "it looks like it grows follicles back"
» :-D , and everyone will buy it stay bald for 10 years more and discuss how
» it suks to be bald :-P.
»
» Mark my words.

You are right here




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Iron_Man

02.04.2012, 11:28
(edited by Iron_Man, 02.04.2012, 11:49)

@ moopookoo

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» Spencer K is eternal sceptic besides he would lose a lot $$$ if HST is
» success....so think abt it for a sec..you would be sceptic too if you were
» him, he is making living from this dirty industry.

They all had FEAR since its beginnings...

http://www.hairlosssucks.com/newsletter/72001/articles/article02.htm

... and tried to talk him down everywhere. But on the other side, they claimed "he doesn't publish his findings". How can some one publish his findings when they boycott him??

And they still try ...
http://www.haarweb.nl/forum/showpost.php?p=302123&postcount=30

"And how can others disproof Gho when he hardly publices any research results?!?!" ... funny.




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MikadoMan

02.04.2012, 11:42

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

haha the next time a baldie keeps on moaning about his scar from 2011 i will say

your fault, you slept with the hair loss industry so thats your problem




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gc83uk

02.04.2012, 21:25

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» » Spencer K is eternal sceptic besides he would lose a lot $$$ if HST is
» » success....so think abt it for a sec..you would be sceptic too if you
» were
» » him, he is making living from this dirty industry.
»
» They all had FEAR since its beginnings...
»
» http://www.hairlosssucks.com/newsletter/72001/articles/article02.htm
»
» ... and tried to talk him down everywhere. But on the other side, they
» claimed "he doesn't publish his findings". How can some one publish his
» findings when they boycott him??
»
» And they still try ...
» http://www.haarweb.nl/forum/showpost.php?p=302123&postcount=30
»
» "And how can others disproof Gho when he hardly publices any research
» results?!?!" ... funny.

Great work I.M, I'm not convinced that I'll be getting any regrowth from those other 8 blue circles, but over 80% regrowth is amazing, to be honest I would have been more than happy with 50% regrowth.

Loving the knockout pics from everyone lol

Can someone tell me what that Dr. De Reyes is talking about on haarweb? The translation tool isn't translating as it should.

Btw, something I forgot to mention, the evening I got home after the hair transplant (after a 2 hour train journey), I took my hat off slowly of course not to disturb the grafts, but unfortunately a couple of grafts came out, maybe 3, I had blood streaming down my face, it wasn't a huge problem, after 30 seconds the bleeding stopped, but I kept those grafts that came out solely for you people. Would a picture of those loose grafts serve any purpose?




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Iron_Man

02.04.2012, 22:26

@ gc83uk

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» Can someone tell me what that Dr. De Reyes is talking about on haarweb? The
» translation tool isn't translating as it should.
»
» Btw, something I forgot to mention, the evening I got home after the hair
» transplant (after a 2 hour train journey), I took my hat off slowly of
» course not to disturb the grafts, but unfortunately a couple of grafts came
» out, maybe 3, I had blood streaming down my face, it wasn't a huge problem,
» after 30 seconds the bleeding stopped, but I kept those grafts that came
» out solely for you people. Would a picture of those loose grafts serve any
» purpose?

What? Did you store these 3 grafts 2 weeks in a fridge?? :-D

Sure, 1-3 pics (close up, if possible) would be nice. Put them onto a clean glass plate with a not to strong light (a 20-30 Watt lamp or something) under the plate and then take the photos vertically onto the grafts - this should work for clear photos.

DeReys? He is asking HOW Gho is able to cut follicles longitudinally into 2 halfs - that's actually NOT what Dr. Gho is doing during the extraction process. In simple words, what Dr. Gho is doing is something in between normal FUE and normal PLUCKING of hairs with an appropriate/special needle - so to speak. In other words, it's somehow "FUE-like" but not FUE.

btw - eventually, if possible, Day 14 or Day 15 (either/or) would be nice - but these photos should be the FINAL photos for documentation, because you did more for us than anybody else would do. THANKS again... by the way.




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MikadoMan

03.04.2012, 00:12

@ gc83uk

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

De Reyes (i am not calling him doctor anymore) is talking about him extracting over a million grafts and he never witnesed bla bla yadda yadda.

in other words is hogwash what he is talking about. what dereyes said is so embarassing that even ironman, myself or others ould try to argue with him because itc obvious, clinics from BENELUX (Belgium Netherland Luxembourg) are struggeling right now to get patients because gho has the better treatment.

just for the sake of it, if someone wants to, he could gather the price list of all clinics from this region and e will see one thing in common they all had to reduce their prices.

and this is not a good sign because if they would be so supportive of their FUT or FUE they ont have to lower the price, but people are starting to ask strange question thanks to you gc :-)

all i can tell you is, that even a NW7 patient with constant 80% regrowth after his sesion can be totally fixed as NW2 guy ith a 70% original density wih ghos HST.

but there is also one other thing, all patients who had FUE done in the past or FUT, have serious problems, more problems then a slick bald NW7 guy with untouched donor.

just take a look around, all those hair loss suffering people are quiet right now because now even the most ignorant dumb a*s baldie must have realised that the future of hair loss has come pretty fast.

i feel sorry for all patients ho opt for FUT in 2011/2012 and FUE also, they are simply fu**ed right now.

one thing is for sure, gho will increase the number of grafts pretty soon, and when he offers 3000 Grafts on two consecutive days.......the hole industry will be dead with the snip of a finger.

if you wanna have some fun time, visit a clinic, say you are interested and then say if they can offer this new gho thingy. then watch their faces

oh and btw Dereyes was one of the signing guys when they tried to kick gho with the rclame commission.

so the whole transplant industry fuc*ed it all up till now and thats their neck braker.

i know ots much to ask but if you feel like it you could sporadically take fotographs of your donor, just to kick everyones as* from time to time.

oh and when you get you 1700 Grafts or so next time, your case is closed anyway because then you officially exceed your available "2500" Grafts big time




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gc83uk

03.04.2012, 00:30

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» DeReys? He is asking HOW Gho is able to cut follicles longitudinally into 2
» halfs - that's actually NOT what Dr. Gho is doing during the extraction
» process. In simple words, what Dr. Gho is doing is something in between
» normal FUE and normal PLUCKING of hairs with an appropriate/special needle
» - so to speak. In other words, it's somehow "FUE-like" but not FUE.
»
» btw - eventually, if possible, Day 14 or Day 15 (either/or) would be
» nice - but these photos should be the FINAL photos for documentation,
» because you did more for us than anybody else would do. THANKS again... by
» the way.

Ha no I didn't store them in a fridge, I forgot that I kept them, but I just put them in the tablet box that Gho gave me. I'll try and take photos as you said, but don't hold your breath for any great photography skills from me. I'm not sure about glass plate thing, I'll try it, I was just going to place them on white paper and make sure I have the lighting correct.

I'm surprised you didn't just tell De Reys that he doesn't cut the follicles longitudinally, I'm fairly sure that this was Gho's old procedure, back pre 2005ish when it was FM and not HST, anyway I'm certain you know all that, but surprised Dr De Reys doesn't.

I was just checking that I had that above paragraph correct when I found this old thread, made me laugh a little bit... old thread

I'll do a day 15 pic, and yea no problem for the pics, I'm enjoying seeing the results, so it's a pleasure.




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gc83uk

03.04.2012, 00:38

@ MikadoMan

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» De Reyes (i am not calling him doctor anymore) is talking about him
» extracting over a million grafts and he never witnesed bla bla yadda
» yadda.
»
» in other words is hogwash what he is talking about. what dereyes said is so
» embarassing that even ironman, myself or others ould try to argue with him
» because itc obvious, clinics from BENELUX (Belgium Netherland Luxembourg)
» are struggeling right now to get patients because gho has the better
» treatment.

Ah well that makes sense, I couldn't understand why the lack of response to what he was saying, but if it's a waste of time, then fair enough.

Today Gho said I could have a further 1400 done over two days, but I've told them I have to have 1700, so at the very least I'm glad they have agreed to do the 3rd procedure over 2 days, because I can't keep wasting my life doing 700 per year. I think they'll email me again tomorrow.

I think the problem is last time it took them like from 10am to 6pm just to do 700 grafts, so they are probably thinking how can we do more than this, (850 per ideally = 1700) without rushing the procedure. I'd happily start it at 8am, but they fly in to London on monday morning and bla bla, you know what I'm saying. They say I'm a special case and takes longer than normal, so I guess I have to respect that.




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Post reply
Iron_Man

03.04.2012, 00:58
(edited by Iron_Man, 03.04.2012, 01:22)

@ gc83uk

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» Great work I.M, I'm not convinced that I'll be getting any regrowth from
» those other 8 blue circles, but over 80% regrowth is amazing, to be honest
» I would have been more than happy with 50% regrowth.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-13-comparison.jpg

I think #3,4,5,6,14,21 and 40 - they still look "promising". The tissue itself looks still promising ...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-13-reference-area.jpg

... but #50 - game over. But I'm surprised anyhow, because I didn't expect regeneration in the extraction site #48, 49, 50, 51 at all...
[image]
...because these extractions were -imho- too close to each other and no follicles in between them.
I'm really surprised ... and NO "SHOCK LOSS" or something within the whole extraction area in general!
It really looks like rather as "hair plucking" with little bleeding.




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moawk

Germany,
03.04.2012, 10:28

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

»
» ... but #50 - game over. But I'm surprised anyhow,
» because I didn't expect regeneration in the extraction site #48, 49,
» 50, 51 at all...
» [image]

Im surprised how all these doctors kept Gho down for so long. But now that picture proves the following is happening:
[image]

ok ill stop with the pictures for this thread. :) .




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1. Predicted the failure of replicel, months in advance.
2. Predicted how their stock would rise/drop even with exact numbers.
3. Predicted the wild claims and crazyness that gc83uk's donor regeneration will cause among the HT industry during this summer. Including rassman's opinion, Dr. Woods special patients and Pro hair clinic photos.
4. Predicted Gho will open up a clinic in asia.
5. No prediction on Histogen. Looks promising if they didn't fake results.
6. Predicted the only viable HM technique other than Gho would surface when hairs are: "generated through the appropriate cell populations" -Team Tokyo 2012


[image]
- Moawk

Advice for patients: If you are considering a hair transplant, only consider Gho's HST and nothing else. First HT treatment in the world that offers: zero scarring, small downtime and donor regrowth.
http://www.hasci.com

Advice for Investors in HM: Invest in Team Tokyo.
http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html
Ditch replicel, aderans. They are done for and have no future.


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MikadoMan

03.04.2012, 15:02

@ moawk

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

i like your picture because thats actually what happened to them. right now they are dead to the core. i mean come on they are now fishing patients by advertising and offering free repair sessions or decrease the price.

thats all they have to offer right now but instead of lowering price and offering free repair, they should invest 50k and stick to what they did before.

does anyone here really think, that in 10 years from now, there are still FUT clinics around? Or FUE clinics? Not really




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THEN READ THIS http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/img/uploaded_files/2879_file32.pdf


Post reply
Skywalker

The Corridor of Uncertainty,
03.04.2012, 21:07

@ MikadoMan

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

gc83uk,
I really hope you will stick around long enough to show the end result of your transplant, for some who doubt this procedure it will be key to see good recipient growth, if you do the evidence will then be an end-to-end procedure - the first properly documented case - thanks to you and Iron_Man.




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gc83uk

04.04.2012, 02:44

@ Skywalker

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» gc83uk,
» I really hope you will stick around long enough to show the end
» result of your transplant, for some who doubt this procedure it will be key
» to see good recipient growth, if you do the evidence will then be an
» end-to-end procedure - the first properly documented case - thanks to you
» and Iron_Man.

As promised: day 15 donor
day 15 recipient and below the new grafts the 700 from September 2011




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Post reply
Iron_Man

04.04.2012, 10:41

@ gc83uk

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» As promised:
» day 15 donor
» day 15 recipient and below the new grafts the 700 from September 2011

Marked and observed extraction area (*FULL SIZE*):
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-15-marked-reference-area.jpg

Including your recipient site photo - it IS truly "natural hair multiplication",
as Dr. Gho calls this procedure on his website.




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hairman2

04.04.2012, 10:59

@ MikadoMan

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» i like your picture because thats actually what happened to them. right now
» they are dead to the core. i mean come on they are now fishing patients by
» advertising and offering free repair sessions or decrease the price.
»
» thats all they have to offer right now but instead of lowering price and
» offering free repair, they should invest 50k and stick to what they did
» before.
»
» does anyone here really think, that in 10 years from now, there are still
» FUT clinics around? Or FUE clinics? Not really

FUT has been "deprecated" for years now but it is still being performed in clinics all over the world. For this reason, I am confident that at least FUE will still be offered 10 years from now.

I don't see tons of Docs adapting to Gho's procedure or being in the midst of doing so. As long as patients fail to educate themselves about the existing procedures before visiting a clinic, Docs will continue to sell them deprecated methods. Just as FUTs are still being performed today. It will take years for the entire industry to adapt.

I'm sure many of you have verified the accuracy of Iron Man's assessment:
the proof that it works seems to be undeniable now. I still hope to see some actual NW6 - NW2 type transformations, however.




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topcat611

E-mail

04.04.2012, 12:14

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

What I don't understand is it is the same couple of a-holes that hop on to every thread attacking others for not going to Gho, what is exactly the point and purpose?

Why in fact do you not get into the chair yourself and share your own photos? You have this bizarre need to encourage others while not doing it yourself.

Tell me how great it works when in fact you have had the procedure performed on your own head.



topcat611 has 1 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
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I have been posting for well over 14 years because I feel the need to help others avoid the mistakes I have made and want to help others make better decisions and avoid being deceived. I would be happy to speak to anyone at anytime in person or on the phone. There are some out there that wish I would go away, but I don't have any plans on going anywhere. I believe the small amount of effort I make can make a big difference in someone else's life and it's well worth my time.

Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.


http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/19-Topcat611
http://hairtransplantrepair.blogspot.com/

My experience can be read on my blogspot and a complete pictorial history of my repair procedure is available at:

http://tinyurl.com/y8m256z


Post reply
Iron_Man

04.04.2012, 12:33

@ topcat611

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» What I don't understand is it is the same couple of a-holes that hop on to
» every thread ...

I think you’re the only a-hole.
topcat, the king of hair loss boards – he hop on to evey hair loss board since 15 years!

But everything he is able to present is a FREAK SHOW!
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/personal_journal-pj-359.html

… and he is still looking for “pro bono” hair transplants. :-D




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hairman2

04.04.2012, 14:07

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» I think you’re the only a-hole.
» topcat, the king of hair loss boards – he hop on to evey hair loss board
» since 15 years!
»
» But everything he is able to present is a FREAK SHOW!
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/personal_journal-pj-359.html
»
» … and he is still looking for “pro bono” hair transplants. :-D

topcat, even if it is self-inflicted by bad decisions early in your life, I sincerely believe that you have to be one sick bastard to be making fun of someones disfigurement like that. From what I've heard, Iron Man is walking around with quite a butchered head himself.

I for one, hope that you can get yourself fixed up sooner or later.




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Post reply
Iron_Man

04.04.2012, 15:07

@ hairman2

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» From what I've heard, ...

I heard you musturbate 5 times a day. But it seems today you did it just 4 times - so far.




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MikadoMan

04.04.2012, 15:24

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

Ahhh topcat time again.

Ok topcat here is my personal answer

1) Why are you so upset? Is it because gc83uk has gotten 1400 Grafts already with a visible improvement, while you keep on getting 300 grafts here and 300 grafts there and you still need to use cover up because otherwise there is no visible improvement?

Andt thats it, i was following your story for quiet some time now and i dont see any improvement at all in your case. there is none,

2) You discredit the industry for being not honest to patients, but on the other hand you keep the indutry alive by your "pro bono" offer

3) You say people have to be open minded but then you discredit gho as bull crap even with clearly visible proof of his technique on a severe scarring alopecia patient who got rejected by other clinics and got told that he needs scalp reduction and has only aroun 2500 follicles to use.

I dont wanna make fun of it, but gc83uk is smart, he didnt opt for scalp reduction and went to gho instead (while you went for your dr i forgot his name to get bht transplants with no improvement)

i can tell tell, gc83uk will be finished with his rstoration long lng long before you will even come close to it.

4)If i were you, i would say buzz of pro bono and gonna visit gho instead

5) Every month you come up with a thread or post about how bad th industry is and that young people should use all informations they have, but then on the hypocrite side you bash gho and kiss your pro bono clinic mills as*. This is ridicolous.

and yes i lost my respect for you, he moment you start to be a shill for your pro bono clinic. let me tell you this right from the horses mouth

"Your whole pro bono odysse doesnt do anything to improve your hair at all the time and money you lost, should have been invested into Gho and you would have already 2100 grafts in your frontal zone"




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Post reply
Iron_Man

04.04.2012, 16:22
(edited by Iron_Man, 04.04.2012, 16:41)

@ topcat611

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» What I don't understand is ...

topcat: "I have been posting for well over 10 years because I feel the need to help others avoid the mistakes I have made and want to help others make better decisions ..."

Something like THIS ...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-15-white-dots-FUE.jpg

... is what you still call "a better decision" - right?

And here is what we idiots call "a better decision"...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-15-marked-reference-area.jpg

COMPARE BOTH PHOTOS!

Everything BEYOND the latter, simply isn't an option (any longer) - at least for everyone who is able to calculate 1+1=




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moopookoo

04.04.2012, 23:32

@ Iron_Man

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» » What I don't understand is ...
»
» topcat: "I have been posting for well over 10 years because
» I feel the need to help others avoid the mistakes I have made and want
» to help others make better decisions ...
"
»
» Something like THIS ...
»
» http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-15-white-dots-FUE.jpg
»
» ... is what you still call "a better decision" - right?
»
» And here is what we idiots call "a better decision"...
»
» http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/day-15-marked-reference-area.jpg
»
» COMPARE BOTH PHOTOS!
»
» Everything BEYOND the latter, simply isn't an option (any longer) -
» at least for everyone who is able to calculate 1+1=



nice one.

I asked Woods on of the best FUE doc in the field and he said if he extracts 1000 fue grafts he cant guarantee that there wont be white dots and no regeneration of course. HST offered 1200-1400 in the first go with option to harvest later on.
So if normal fue was done on Gc83uk he would be lookin like swisse cheese

and Gho had courage to harvest the same area after 6 months or so..thats confidence:-D




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Post reply
MikadoMan

04.04.2012, 23:46

@ moopookoo

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

Plus

on a scarring elsewhere rejected alopecia patient.

so i think topcat, you are not in the position to give tips, its gc83uk who should give advise to people and especially you.

btw topcat, everytime you go for your pro bono body hair transplant, you make your status much worser then before

if i were you i ould stop your madness and start with gho, so that you can have a good hair appearance in a few years from now on




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You wanna get all the answers why none of your "ethical" clinics have adopted Ghos HST hairmuliplication so far?

THEN READ THIS http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/img/uploaded_files/2879_file32.pdf


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hairdar

05.04.2012, 15:58

@ topcat611

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» What I don't understand is it is the same couple of a-holes that hop on to
» every thread attacking others for not going to Gho, what is exactly the
» point and purpose?
»
» Why in fact do you not get into the chair yourself and share your own
» photos? You have this bizarre need to encourage others while not doing it
» yourself.
»
» Tell me how great it works when in fact you have had the procedure
» performed on your own head.

I think you and I.M. actually provide a lot of valuable experiences and well researched views but the back and forth abuse (and re quoted abuse) makes for a lot of scrolling :)




hairdar is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

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Dr. Zira: Taylor, please!
George Taylor: ...except that he's also chief Defender of the Faith!
Dr. Zaius: There is no contradiction between faith and science... true science!
George Taylor: Are you willing to put that statement to the test?
Cornelius: Taylor, I would much rather...
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MikadoMan

05.04.2012, 16:37

@ hairdar

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

I disagree with you here.

The only things that topcat comes up with are the same old "hair industry is bad i won a pro bono repair (but ignore the fact that no improvement comes)

and then he bashes gho even knowing that it is (or should be the diamond standard)

i ignore topcat postings because they are the same old record every time




MikadoMan is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

---
You wanna get all the answers why none of your "ethical" clinics have adopted Ghos HST hairmuliplication so far?

THEN READ THIS http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/img/uploaded_files/2879_file32.pdf


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moawk

Germany,
05.04.2012, 21:04

@ MikadoMan

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

» I disagree with you here.
»
» The only things that topcat comes up with are the same old "hair industry
» is bad i won a pro bono repair (but ignore the fact that no improvement
» comes)
»
» and then he bashes gho even knowing that it is (or should be the diamond
» standard)
»
» i ignore topcat postings because they are the same old record every time

One would turn jealous/evil when thinking about Gc83uk future full head of hair.

same with topcat.

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1. Predicted the failure of replicel, months in advance.
2. Predicted how their stock would rise/drop even with exact numbers.
3. Predicted the wild claims and crazyness that gc83uk's donor regeneration will cause among the HT industry during this summer. Including rassman's opinion, Dr. Woods special patients and Pro hair clinic photos.
4. Predicted Gho will open up a clinic in asia.
5. No prediction on Histogen. Looks promising if they didn't fake results.
6. Predicted the only viable HM technique other than Gho would surface when hairs are: "generated through the appropriate cell populations" -Team Tokyo 2012


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- Moawk

Advice for patients: If you are considering a hair transplant, only consider Gho's HST and nothing else. First HT treatment in the world that offers: zero scarring, small downtime and donor regrowth.
http://www.hasci.com

Advice for Investors in HM: Invest in Team Tokyo.
http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html
Ditch replicel, aderans. They are done for and have no future.


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MikadoMan

05.04.2012, 22:39

@ moawk

*Pre-REPORT* - gc83uk - 2nd HST procedure

of course topcat is jealous, right now a lot of people here who turn retarded like cal and 2020 are jealous thats obvious, hell even i am jealous of gc because he will have a full head of hair sooner or later when a lot of jokers here will still bashing gho.

btw i only come here to have a fun time with trolls and to check gc s updates and your funny pictures :-)




MikadoMan is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

---
You wanna get all the answers why none of your "ethical" clinics have adopted Ghos HST hairmuliplication so far?

THEN READ THIS http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/img/uploaded_files/2879_file32.pdf


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