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roger_that

MARYLAND,
29.04.2012, 06:39
 

Replicel: I don't think results will be made public in April 2012 - read this (Hair Multiplication & Stem Cells Treatment)

Replicel's website says:

"An interim analysis of data safety and efficacy will be available shortly after all subjects have completed 6 months of follow-up visits in April, 2012. If successful, this trial will be followed by larger clinical trials to establish ideal cell dosing."

To my mind, this doesn't mean the results will be PUBLICLY AVAILABLE in April 2012. It means that in April 2012, all subjects will have "completed 6 months of follow-up visits".

Interim analysis of results will be available shortly AFTER that, meaning we will have to wait past the end of April to see the results.

"Shortly" can mean a lot of things -- it can mean 2 weeks, 3 weeks, a month, even 2 months, depending on how long it takes them to do the analysis.




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MikadoMan

29.04.2012, 06:43

@ roger_that

Replicel: I don't think results will be available in April 2012 - read this

Nit picky are we. Seriously who cares when the whole Problem right now LIES SOMEWHERE ELSE.

The WHOLE SITUATION HERE COULD EASILY BE SOLVED FOR ALL OF US WITH JUST ONE TINY TINY STEP AND YOU KEEP ON OVERANALYSING REPLICEL PR BS

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GoneWithTheHair

Australia,
29.04.2012, 06:45

@ roger_that

Replicel: I don't think results will be made public in April 2012 - read this

Nope its tomorrow... its always been late april results will be out. Looks like they really mean late april.




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moawk

Germany,
29.04.2012, 06:48

@ MikadoMan

Replicel: I don't think results will be available in April 2012 - read this

I think he was trying to help.

But I think this is bad news because we won't start moving our troops until way later.

I will start late May, hopefully replicel is officially over by then.


Or maybe he really is:

[image]




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1. Predicted the failure of replicel, months in advance.
2. Predicted how their stock would rise/drop even with exact numbers.
3. Predicted the wild claims and crazyness that gc83uk's donor regeneration will cause among the HT industry during this summer. Including rassman's opinion, Dr. Woods special patients and Pro hair clinic photos.
4. Predicted Gho will open up a clinic in asia.
5. No prediction on Histogen. Looks promising if they didn't fake results.
6. Predicted the only viable HM technique other than Gho would surface when hairs are: "generated through the appropriate cell populations" -Team Tokyo 2012


[image]
- Moawk

Advice for patients: If you are considering a hair transplant, only consider Gho's HST and nothing else. First HT treatment in the world that offers: zero scarring, small downtime and donor regrowth.
http://www.hasci.com

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http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html
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roger_that

MARYLAND,
29.04.2012, 06:53

@ GoneWithTheHair

Replicel: I don't think results will be made public in April 2012 - read this

» Nope its tomorrow... its always been late april results will be out. Looks
» like they really mean late april.

I never saw them say "late April" once.

Further down on that same page it says this:

"Data from this analysis is expected to be available in April 2012."

The way I'm reading that, that is when the DATA will be available (to Replicel)... but not when it will be publicly available to us. It will be available to US when the data analysis has been completed.




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GoneWithTheHair

Australia,
29.04.2012, 07:04

@ roger_that

Replicel: I don't think results will be made public in April 2012 - read this

» » Nope its tomorrow... its always been late april results will be out.
» Looks
» » like they really mean late april.
»
» I never saw them say "late April" once.


VANCOUVER, BC – April 3, 2012 – RepliCel Life Sciences Inc. (the “Company” or “RepliCel”) (OTCBB: REPCF) is pleased to report that all 19 subjects have completed their six-month post injection follow-up visit and the company remains on schedule to release the initial review of efficacy results in April 2012.

release being the main word.




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roger_that

MARYLAND,
29.04.2012, 07:06

@ GoneWithTheHair

Replicel: I don't think results will be made public in April 2012 - read this

» VANCOUVER, BC – April 3, 2012 – RepliCel Life Sciences Inc. (the “Company”
» or “RepliCel”) (OTCBB: REPCF) is pleased to report that all 19 subjects
» have completed their six-month post injection follow-up visit and the
» company remains on schedule to release the initial review of efficacy
» results in April 2012.
»
» release being the main word.

Guess they went off schedule. That press release is dated April 3.




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georgex6

GREECE ATHENS,
29.04.2012, 07:06

@ roger_that

Replicel: I don't think results will be made public in April 2012 - read this

you cant wait one day????




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GoneWithTheHair

Australia,
29.04.2012, 07:08

@ roger_that

Replicel: I don't think results will be made public in April 2012 - read this

» Guess they went off schedule. That press release is dated April 3.

Theyre not off schedule its not the end of April Yet!!!




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Iron_Man

29.04.2012, 07:09
(edited by Iron_Man, 29.04.2012, 07:37)

@ roger_that

Replicel: I don't think results will be made public in April 2012 - read this

» To my mind, this doesn't mean the results will be PUBLICLY AVAILABLE in
» April 2012. It means that in April 2012, all subjects will have "completed
» 6 months of follow-up visits".

No. Why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01286649?term=TrichosCIENCE&rank=1
Estimated Enrollment: 20
Study Start Date: December 2010
Estimated Study Completion Date: October 2013
Estimated Primary Completion Date: February 2012 (Final data collection date for primary outcome measure)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The last patient got the hair cells injections in AUGUST, 2011 according to one of the Replicel jockeys:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://editorial.equities.com/spotlight-companies/rolf-hoffmann-chief-medical-officer-replicel-life-sciences/
EQ: The company’s first-in-man, Phase I/IIa clinical trial was started in December 2010, and the last patient was injected in August 2011. What’s next for RepliCel in this trial, and what are you hoping to see in the results?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

According to this, they must wait at least 6 month after August 2011 (Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb) to get also the 6-month-data from the last patient they injected (they didn't injected all 20 patients at once on the same day).
That means, that latest at the end of March 2012, they could finally collect also the data from the last trail subjects for a 6 month report. In other words, they now had at least 1 month time to do the paper work - but just for the last trail subject from August 2011!




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ccmethinning

29.04.2012, 09:49

@ roger_that

Replicel: I don't think results will be made public in April 2012 - read this

» Replicel's website says:
»
» "An interim analysis of data safety and efficacy will be available shortly
» after all subjects have completed 6 months of follow-up visits in April,
» 2012. If successful, this trial will be followed by larger clinical trials
» to establish ideal cell dosing."
»
» To my mind, this doesn't mean the results will be PUBLICLY AVAILABLE in
» April 2012. It means that in April 2012, all subjects will have "completed
» 6 months of follow-up visits".
»
» Interim analysis of results will be available shortly AFTER that, meaning
» we will have to wait past the end of April to see the results.
»
» "Shortly" can mean a lot of things -- it can mean 2 weeks, 3 weeks, a
» month, even 2 months, depending on how long it takes them to do the
» analysis.

They have said on releases and facebook it will be late april.

Public companies ALWAYS wait until as late as possible for this kind of stuff, even big, fortune 500 companies.

I fully expect results tommorow.




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Iron_Man

29.04.2012, 10:48

@ ccmethinning

Replicel: I don't think results will be made public in April 2012 - read this

» » "Shortly" can mean a lot of things -- it can mean 2 weeks, 3 weeks, a
» » month, even 2 months, depending on how long it takes them to do the
» » analysis.
»
» They have said on releases and facebook it will be late april.
»
» Public companies ALWAYS wait until as late as possible for this kind of
» stuff, even big, fortune 500 companies.
»
» I fully expect results tommorow.

Actually, I'm not 100% sure anymore whether they "promised" that or not because basically they are not obligated to publish any results. I guess they themselves think at the moment 1) whether or not they should publish any details at all or 2) if yes, what kind of "release" and how many data they should publish or 3) just a few standard "we are thrilled" PR comments and that they could gather some "excting" data or something without any photos or so.

For example ...
http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01451099?term=hair&rank=21

They do BASICALLY the same - according to this public provided description and and in comparison with the public provided Replicel trail data. Furthermore...

Enrollment: 21
Study Start Date: June 2009
Primary Completion Date: September 2010 (Final data collection date for primary outcome measure)

Did they report or show something convincing after data collection and "primary outcome measure" in September 2010?
Until today - nothing, besides some "we are so excited" PR comments.

Anyway, here again, what Replicel actually reported on April 3, 2012:

http://www.replicel.com/all-19-subjects-in-replicels-ts001-2009-clinical-trial-complete-six-month-follow-up-visit/




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KO

29.04.2012, 14:30

@ roger_that

Replicel: I don't think results will be made public in April 2012 - read this

Not true. Their January Press release says:

"The TS001-2009 study team will be performing a thorough review of the collected study data throughout the months of March and April 2012. Once complete, the treatment groups will be revealed (‘un-blinded’) to the data analysis team and the data will be analyzed. RepliCel remains on schedule to release the initial review of efficacy results in April 2012."




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KO

29.04.2012, 14:33

@ ccmethinning

Replicel: I don't think results will be made public in April 2012 - read this

Another question is why were they hiring firms to pump up their stock like NBT Equities? If they were real confident in their tech, the stock would surge regardless of their promoter.




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gmonasco

29.04.2012, 14:59

@ KO

Replicel: I don't think results will be made public in April 2012 - read this

» Another question is why were they hiring firms to pump up their stock like
» NBT Equities? If they were real confident in their tech, the stock would
» surge regardless of their promoter.

Not so. Regardless of how confident they may be of their own product, that doesn't necessarily mean the general public is aware of or understands what they're doing.




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Iron_Man

29.04.2012, 15:22

@ gmonasco

Replicel: I don't think results will be made public in April 2012 - read this

» » Another question is why were they hiring firms to pump up their stock
» like
» » NBT Equities? If they were real confident in their tech, the stock would
» » surge regardless of their promoter.
»
» Not so. Regardless of how confident they may be of their own product, that
» doesn't necessarily mean the general public is aware of or understands what
» they're doing.

Do they?
I mean, does the public fully understand what they are doing????????
Come one, not even those people out there -aka BALDIES- who check hair loss forums every day, still do NOT fully understand what exactly are they doing. Because if they would, why the hell there are so many Replicel threads everywhere and no ARI threads???

According to http://clinicaltrials.gov , ARI is doing far more and different trails with different combinations of "autologous hair follicle cells" - they test practically evey possible mix/combination/approach with hair CELLS since many more YEARS than the Replicel guys. For instance...

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01451151?term=hair&rank=23

Where is the hype??
Hype just because 2 hair science jockeys out there believe they will succeed with 1 specific cell type next to other cells types who are in clinical human trails since 2008??

In my opinion, KO is right:
If they were really so confident, their stock would surge regardless of their promoter.
So why investing so much money (of course from investors) clearly just FOR HYPING their stocks?? Sorry, but for what else??
[image]

"dissemination of corporate MARKETING materials" - what is unclear?
And what is their "marketing material" ? Hyping that each and every baldy out there can have "a full head of hair". The latter is something what they claim since day 1.

Every serious company out there would WAIT until they really have something to show!




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gmonasco

29.04.2012, 15:33

@ Iron_Man

Replicel: I don't think results will be made public in April 2012 - read this

» Do they?
» I mean, does the public fully understand what they are doing????????
» Come one, not even those people out there -aka BALDIES- who check hair loss
» forums every day, still do NOT fully understand what exactly are they doing.

Hence my statement that the general public doesn't necessarily understand what Replicel is doing, regardless of how much confidence Replicel itself may have.

For best results, I recommend ensuring you carefully read and thoroughly comprehend posts prior to replying to them.




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Iron_Man

29.04.2012, 15:38

@ gmonasco

Replicel: I don't think results will be made public in April 2012 - read this

» Hence my statement that the general public doesn't necessarily understand
» what Replicel is doing, regardless of how much confidence Replicel itself
» may have.
»
» For best results, I recommend ensuring you carefully read and thoroughly
» comprehend posts prior to replying to them.

Why? I knew what you mean. I just tried to highlight your thoughts more specific ... :-D




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ccmethinning

29.04.2012, 16:47

@ gmonasco

Replicel: I don't think results will be made public in April 2012 - read this

» » Another question is why were they hiring firms to pump up their stock
» like
» » NBT Equities? If they were real confident in their tech, the stock would
» » surge regardless of their promoter.
»
» Not so. Regardless of how confident they may be of their own product, that
» doesn't necessarily mean the general public is aware of or understands what
» they're doing.

The more I think about it, even a successful trial (which isn't going to be the case) wouldn't necessarily speak for itself. They injected into a 2cm squared area. I wonder how many of the people who bought the stock over the past couple of weeks expect to see full head shots.

I predict the results to look like this:
[image]

I predict thin, curly/miniaturized looking, unpigmented, about 1/8inch long or less hairs.

My guess is they will try to spin it as success.




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Iron_Man

29.04.2012, 17:31

@ ccmethinning

Replicel: I don't think results will be made public in April 2012 - read this

» I predict the results to look like this:
» [image]
»
» I predict thin, curly/miniaturized looking, unpigmented, about 1/8inch long
» or less hairs.
»
» My guess is they will try to spin it as success.

Unpigmented - IF there are some new hairs, in theory they are rather small and unpigmented hairs -insofar, because if they really just used these "dermal sheath cup cells", then essential other components (e.g. melanocytes) are missing in the mix. Replicel's own mouse study has shown this (just white hairs) and recently the Tokyo guys explained this problem very well in their paper.

Anyway, due to the FACT that the ARI guys are basically doing completely the same (according to http://clinicaltrials.gov ) what the Replicel guys do (according to clinicaltrials.gov), the following pics are everything what the ARI guys could show so far from their trails:
[image]
[image]
[image]
The last pic -for instance- is "tricky" insofar, because this photo shows a skin sample from a lady who had a facelift. That means, they got from a cosmetic/plastic surgeon this cut off facial skin sample from a female patient. In the ARI labs, they injected then -of course IN VITRO- hair cells into this facial skin sample from a WOMAN's face (skin from anywhere behind the ears). That means, this skin sample doesn't have any androgenetic influence on these injected cells. But even so, the pic is not convincing at all. The other fine hairs you can see could even be some normal existing hairs in this skin sample, if such a skin sample was kept "alive" in the lab. But we also know, that hairs still grow even in a "mouse-dead" person - if you guys understand what I mean.
The pic in the middle:
In this pic you can see -on the other hand- that some hairs disappeared in the after pic - also not convincing at all.
Pic #1 - the injection site:
If the Replicel guys injected the stuff into areas with lots of pre-existing hairs (even if these hairs are just small) - I bet my ass that they indeed "will try to spin it as success".




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moawk

Germany,
29.04.2012, 18:50

@ Iron_Man

PREDICTION OF REPLICEL NEW !!!!!

Just a remainder of MOAWKTRADAMUS curriculum on this matter:

A. I predicted the stock rising to 2.7 by friday (2 weeks aprox. ago).
B. I predicted something "BIG" coming Friday afternoon
C. I also predicted reversing of miniaturization ( to what degree I don't know but it should be obvious now that degree is useless).



So Now:

I predict the following will happen at least for three more years:

[image]




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---
1. Predicted the failure of replicel, months in advance.
2. Predicted how their stock would rise/drop even with exact numbers.
3. Predicted the wild claims and crazyness that gc83uk's donor regeneration will cause among the HT industry during this summer. Including rassman's opinion, Dr. Woods special patients and Pro hair clinic photos.
4. Predicted Gho will open up a clinic in asia.
5. No prediction on Histogen. Looks promising if they didn't fake results.
6. Predicted the only viable HM technique other than Gho would surface when hairs are: "generated through the appropriate cell populations" -Team Tokyo 2012


[image]
- Moawk

Advice for patients: If you are considering a hair transplant, only consider Gho's HST and nothing else. First HT treatment in the world that offers: zero scarring, small downtime and donor regrowth.
http://www.hasci.com

Advice for Investors in HM: Invest in Team Tokyo.
http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html
Ditch replicel, aderans. They are done for and have no future.


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