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TaKeeLa

22.05.2012, 13:00
 

Astressin-b (Hair Loss Research & Clinical Trials)

Small update..

"I am very sorry for the lack of updates on this matter.

The Newsletter update has still not gone out for two reasons; 1. We have to split the database into 2 groups, one for our professional family, and the other one for the users within this community. Since the Newsletter confirmation system is not working correctly, we had to add many of the email addresses manually. This proved to be a monumental task, and one that we were not expecting.

2. Secondly, the content required signing off by the group that is in charge of the project. This has not been done yet, and we are still waiting for our report to be revised.

Now, as we previously mentioned, there is only so much we can do at this moment. Our job was to produce and plan the foundations of the implementation process.

I would love to be able to provide more information, but until we get a sign-off , there is nothing we can do.
Very sorry to let you down guys."




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samt23

22.05.2012, 17:10

@ TaKeeLa

Astressin-b

Man, this guy and his Astressin-B.




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Freddie555

23.05.2012, 03:59

@ samt23

Astressin-b

» Man, this guy and his Astressin-B.

Could you butt out of the thread. You mentioned you signed up for the newsletter even while denigrating the researchers. If you don't give a fuxk, could you butt out. There are other people who are interested in the outcome who could do without the worthless commentary.

Its one thing to criticize with useful info, quite another to have some dumb ass going off with zero for content.




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"When true Hair Multiplication comes, it will arise out of the East." - John The Revelator, Feb. 18, 2001


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Bezzzo

28.05.2012, 04:21

@ Freddie555

Astressin-b

» » Man, this guy and his Astressin-B.
»
» Could you butt out of the thread. You mentioned you signed up for the
» newsletter even while denigrating the researchers. If you don't give a
» fuxk, could you butt out. There are other people who are interested in the
» outcome who could do without the worthless commentary.
»
» Its one thing to criticize with useful info, quite another to have some
» dumb ass going off with zero for content.

Well said, i'm absolutely fed up with half the c*nts on this site, every time i try and read a thread there's always one or two cockheads in the mix writing absolute crap, deliberately bashing the person who wrote it or the thread itself, which eventually clogs and ruins the entire thread, all just because they're not interested or don't agree with what the person has to say. Now don't get mean wrong, i'm all down for debate and difference of opinion, but please, do it properly and show some f*cking respect, and don't post off topic nonsense.

Seriously, got to be the worst moderated forum i've EVER been to.




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moawk

Germany,
28.05.2012, 06:03

@ Bezzzo

Astressin-b

I wouldn't agree on worst moderation.

I'm banned from almost every thread in this section. I would call it abusively unfair moderation.




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1. Predicted the failure of replicel, months in advance.
2. Predicted how their stock would rise/drop even with exact numbers.
3. Predicted the wild claims and crazyness that gc83uk's donor regeneration will cause among the HT industry during this summer. Including rassman's opinion, Dr. Woods special patients and Pro hair clinic photos.
4. Predicted Gho will open up a clinic in asia.
5. No prediction on Histogen. Looks promising if they didn't fake results.
6. Predicted the only viable HM technique other than Gho would surface when hairs are: "generated through the appropriate cell populations" -Team Tokyo 2012


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- Moawk

Advice for patients: If you are considering a hair transplant, only consider Gho's HST and nothing else. First HT treatment in the world that offers: zero scarring, small downtime and donor regrowth.
http://www.hasci.com

Advice for Investors in HM: Invest in Team Tokyo.
http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html
Ditch replicel, aderans. They are done for and have no future.


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roger_that

JAMAICA,
28.05.2012, 07:57
(edited by roger_that, 28.05.2012, 08:31)

@ Bezzzo

Astressin-b

» Well said, i'm absolutely fed up with half the c*nts on this site, every
» time i try and read a thread there's always one or two cockheads in the mix
» writing absolute crap, deliberately bashing the person who wrote it or the
» thread itself, which eventually clogs and ruins the entire thread, all just
» because they're not interested or don't agree with what the person has to
» say. Now don't get mean wrong, i'm all down for debate and difference of
» opinion, but please, do it properly and show some f*cking respect, and
» don't post off topic nonsense.

Bezzzo, you've described the situation well right there. It's funny that moawk responded by mentioning that he's been banned from most of the current threads. If that's true, it shows that HairSite is at least aware of the extent to which these forum spammers have gone to disrupt the discussions here.

A few years ago, HairSite was flooded with certain posters, mostly from Germany, who seemed to have no agenda other than to destroy the HairSite forums. Iron_Man, Leeroy.Jenkins, Stevie_Dee, moawk, Mikado_Man, etc. I would guess that many of them are actually the same person, and at least they form an overlapping group of individuals who support each others' efforts to spam and destroy the forums. Some of them have used the false pretext of being "Dr. Gho supporters" as a ruse for disrupting dialogues and ruining threads. All of them -- however many of them there are -- are very versatile and adept at escaping the HairSite moderator's sanctions. They are very adaptable, change tactics quickly, and always have another alias ready to reanimate themselves if one or two of them happen to be banned for good... like Stevie_Dee and Leeroy.Jenkins were banned (at least I hope so in Stevie_Dee's case). Their main tactics are to take control of threads, post meaningless replies which distract and derail the dialogue away from the original discussion, and incite arguments between forum members.

Often they use the phony pretext of posting elaborate scientific "explanations" and "analyses" complete with diagrams, cut-and-paste postings from medical journal articles, re-postings from this website and other websites, etc., to pass themselves off as knowledgeable people or experts. Most of this stuff is complete nonsense, which doesn't help anyone understand anything. This stuff is obviously just a smokescreen -- they are trying to buy a little bit of credibility with newbies so they come back and post more spam and insults later.

I have tried every internet tactic I know of to shoo these people away, but it has worked only slightly. One of them was very prolific in making explicit death threats on the forum, and he was permanently banned. In other cases, I've used humor, sometimes throwing back to them their own tactics. When I do that, they cleverly notice my posts and whenever I complain about their disruptions, they cleverly re-post one of my (very rare) old posts where I've used humor to try to get rid of these guys, in order to embarrass me or to "prove" to everybody that I'm "no different" than they are.

I hope more and more people are becoming aware of exactly who the culprits are, and that shortly, there will be an uprising of serious posters in these forums and we will be rid of these people once and for all!




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HisRage

28.05.2012, 08:13

@ roger_that

Astressin-b

Hey mate, you are really Sherlock Holmes or Koyak. I dont care about quarrels here i can find me informations within everything and if me wants to get a more specific answer i ask the question. I think this forum is funny but you cant take it seriously, so just go with the flow and enjoy it




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Wanna know something about Dr Woods? http://www.hccc.nsw.gov.au/Publications/Media-Releases/Dr--Ray-Woods---reprimanded-and-conditions-imposed-by-Medical-Tribunal/default.aspx

Or here : http://www.ripoffreport.com/directory/Dr-Ray-Woods.aspx


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BigGuy1980

06.07.2012, 21:56

@ HisRage

Astressin-b

Professional Peptides .com has Astressin-b for a decent price for 5mg.... I would imagine the dosing protocol is about 1mg/day?

Has anyone had any luck with it?




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TaKeeLa

07.07.2012, 13:23

@ BigGuy1980

Astressin-b

» Professional Peptides .com has Astressin-b for a decent price for 5mg.... I
» would imagine the dosing protocol is about 1mg/day?
»
» Has anyone had any luck with it?

That's fake.




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samt23

30.07.2012, 03:49

@ TaKeeLa

Astressin-b

TaKeeLa July 27, 2012 at 3:39 pm
I have lost a lot of confidence in whether these second round of experiments were real or not…. Any word at all would be comforting.

Finally, you wake up.




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Freddie555

31.07.2012, 00:36
(edited by Freddie555, 31.07.2012, 01:15)

@ HisRage

Astressin-b

» Hey mate, you are really Sherlock Holmes or Koyak.

who's Koyak




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"When true Hair Multiplication comes, it will arise out of the East." - John The Revelator, Feb. 18, 2001


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needhairasap

31.07.2012, 15:14

@ roger_that

Astressin-b

» Often they use the phony pretext of posting elaborate scientific
» "explanations" and "analyses" complete with diagrams, cut-and-paste
» postings from medical journal articles, re-postings from this website and
» other websites, etc., to pass themselves off as knowledgeable people or
» experts. Most of this stuff is complete nonsense, which doesn't help anyone
» understand anything. This stuff is obviously just a smokescreen -- they
» are trying to buy a little bit of credibility with newbies so they come
» back and post more spam and insults later.
»

???

how can you be for forum discussion and then angry when people use medical journal excerpts for their arguments? lol


and a question for you, do you not think that Gho's tools work as advertised?

I ask because the science behind Gho's procedure has been verified from several other studies by completely unattached researches. So, i.e., If someone can extract enough stemcells to grow hair in the recipient and leave enough behind for regrowth in the donor, then they will have been successful in multiplication.


Seeing as the above bolded statement is UNDENIABLY TRUE, the only real POSSIBLE point of disagreement about Gho would be that you believe his tools are not capable of committing the above bolded statement's actions.



I only ask because you seem intelligent and articulate, so I'd like to see why you think Gho's tools do not work.




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cal

31.07.2012, 21:30

@ needhairasap

Astressin-b

I remember reading years ago that attempts to split & multiply follicles were producing two follicles that were each half the size of the original. No matter how many times the theoretical proof of Gho's work gets trotted out around here, nobody ever responds to my attempts to bring this issue up.

Of course it would be settled if Gho would just do what his doubters have been asking for all these years - produce some patients with restorations that are clearly beyond what has been achieved with conventional FUE.





And then there is Ahab's theory that there is only a finite number of hair cycles in the lifespan of each follicle. Does Gho's work give you two follicles that will each only life half as long (or less?)

We won't know for years to come. But IMHO the possibility of a hangup like this seems at least moderately likely. Generally speaking, scientific attempts to clone whole creatures, body parts, cells, etc, have run into a lot of unexpected no-free-lunch complications like this. Everyone remembers Dolly the sheep was successfully cloned from another adult sheep, but not as many people remember that she died just a few years later after aging prematurely.

This subject also gets uncomfortably ignored by the Gho cheerleaders.

What really concerns me about this idea is that it could theoretically leave you worse off than if you had not gotten any work done to your head at all. You'd have more hair for the first few years/decades, and then suddenly you would find yourself with ALL the hairs you had worked on dying prematurely, in the donor AND the recipent.




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rev

your nightmares,
01.08.2012, 01:27

@ cal

Astressin-b

» I remember reading years ago that attempts to split & multiply follicles
» were producing two follicles that were each half the size of the original.
» No matter how many times the theoretical proof of Gho's work gets trotted
» out around here, nobody ever responds to my attempts to bring this issue
» up.

I remember HSI resulting in miniaturized follicles being discussed as well.
Perhaps Gho's groupies can address this issue; that is, when they find time from setting-up multiple aliases and demeaning veteran posters.




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Shittin on shills since 08.01.2008.


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Freddie555

01.08.2012, 03:14

@ rev

Astressin-b

» Perhaps Gho's groupies can address this issue

no don't encourage gho related BS in this forum.

we had to move heaven & earth to get rid of it from here.

there's the "hair stem cell tranplantation" forum setup just for that. take it there.




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"When true Hair Multiplication comes, it will arise out of the East." - John The Revelator, Feb. 18, 2001


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needhairasap

01.08.2012, 13:13

@ cal

Astressin-b

» I remember reading years ago that attempts to split & multiply follicles
» were producing two follicles that were each half the size of the original.
» No matter how many times the theoretical proof of Gho's work gets trotted
» out around here, nobody ever responds to my attempts to bring this issue
» up.
»
» Of course it would be settled if Gho would just do what his doubters have
» been asking for all these years - produce some patients with restorations
» that are clearly beyond what has been achieved with conventional FUE.
»
»
»
»
»
» And then there is Ahab's theory that there is only a finite number of hair
» cycles in the lifespan of each follicle. Does Gho's work give you two
» follicles that will each only life half as long (or less?)
»
» We won't know for years to come. But IMHO the possibility of a hangup like
» this seems at least moderately likely. Generally speaking, scientific
» attempts to clone whole creatures, body parts, cells, etc, have run into a
» lot of unexpected no-free-lunch complications like this. Everyone
» remembers Dolly the sheep was successfully cloned from another adult sheep,
» but not as many people remember that she died just a few years later after
» aging prematurely.
»
» This subject also gets uncomfortably ignored by the Gho cheerleaders.
»
» What really concerns me about this idea is that it could theoretically
» leave you worse off than if you had not gotten any work done to your head
» at all. You'd have more hair for the first few years/decades, and
» then suddenly you would find yourself with ALL the hairs you had worked on
» dying prematurely, in the donor AND the recipent.



I dont understand why a follicle's life would be cut in half.... that doesn't seem to be the case with regular transplants, which operate on the same science as Gho's procedure.


Ironman should tune in on the length, radius, etc. of the regenerated hairs. I believe this was found to not be a problem when transections are done vertically rather than horizontally.




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KO

01.08.2012, 20:11

@ cal

Astressin-b

» I remember reading years ago that attempts to split & multiply follicles
» were producing two follicles that were each half the size of the original.
» No matter how many times the theoretical proof of Gho's work gets trotted
» out around here, nobody ever responds to my attempts to bring this issue
» up.
»
» Of course it would be settled if Gho would just do what his doubters have
» been asking for all these years - produce some patients with restorations
» that are clearly beyond what has been achieved with conventional FUE.
»
»
»
»

I believe the key is that the size of the follicle is a function of the size of the dermal papilla. So if we split it in two, it will only have half the amount of dermal papilla cells....perhaps they won't suddenly repopulate and double in size.




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