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Hogan38

07.05.2007, 22:00
 

My current regimen... (All Natural, Supplements & Diet)

Two years ago, I was losing hair like mad. I then started on Norwegian Salmon oil by Carlsons and Borage Oil or Black Currant Oil by Health from the Sun (1 gram of each). That combination dramatically halted my hair loss. Recently, within the last 4 months, I have been taking Spirulina and only taking the oils once in a while. I am also avoiding all sugar, high fructose corn syrup, and just about anything that takes sweet. I am now starting to see regrowth around my temples again. My hair looks better now than it has in more than 2 1/2 years.

In addtion, I am only shampooing my hair once every other day. I am also still using Vishal's hair shampoo about once a week. Vishal's hair shampoo/oils did seem to work for a while but then I stop getting results with them. I have found that if I use them intermittenly, they work better.

Thanks,

Hogan


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The Natural

07.05.2007, 22:53

@ Hogan38

My current regimen...

Hogan,

Posters here should return to the archives, and reread your threads concerning inflammation.

They are essential.


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Hogan38

07.05.2007, 23:39

@ The Natural

Natural, how is your progress?

» Hogan,
»
» Posters here should return to the archives, and reread your threads
» concerning inflammation.
»
» They are essential.


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The Natural

08.05.2007, 00:11

@ Hogan38

Natural, how is your progress?

Hogan, as you know, I have never been satisfied with just "maintaining," so I continue, through trial and error, to hone a regimen of natural supplements that will maximize my chances for regrowth.

And though I am still not completely satisfied with the present condition of my hair, I am pleased with the progress that I've made thus far.

Present regimen:
1. pycnogenol (every three days)
2. green tea extract (Mon, Wed, Fri)
3. curcumin (Tues, Thurs, Sat, Sun)
4. borage oil (2 grams daily)
5. fish oil (1 gram daily)
6. Chinese herbal combination (several days a month to "flush" the kidneys
and liver)


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Hogan38

08.05.2007, 01:13

@ The Natural

Why not try spirulina for a month or so?

» Hogan, as you know, I have never been satisfied with just "maintaining," so
» I continue, through trial and error, to hone a regimen of natural
» supplements that will maximize my chances for regrowth.
»
» And though I am still not completely satisfied with the present condition
» of my hair, I am pleased with the progress that I've made thus far.
»
» Present regimen:
» 1. pycnogenol (every three days)
» 2. green tea extract (Mon, Wed, Fri)
» 3. curcumin (Tues, Thurs, Sat, Sun)
» 4. borage oil (2 grams daily)
» 5. fish oil (1 gram daily)
» 6. Chinese herbal combination (several days a month to "flush" the kidneys
»
» and liver)

You might want to stop the oils while you do especially if you notice increased inflammation.


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joejoebaggins

09.05.2007, 02:14

@ Hogan38

My current regimen...

» Two years ago, I was losing hair like mad. I then started on Norwegian
» Salmon oil by Carlsons and Borage Oil or Black Currant Oil by Health from
» the Sun (1 gram of each). That combination dramatically halted my hair
» loss. Recently, within the last 4 months, I have been taking Spirulina and
» only taking the oils once in a while. I am also avoiding all sugar, high
» fructose corn syrup, and just about anything that takes sweet. I am now
» starting to see regrowth around my temples again. My hair looks better now
» than it has in more than 2 1/2 years.

Hogan, your reason for not eating anything sweet is the rise in blood sugar correct?


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Hogan38

09.05.2007, 03:02

@ joejoebaggins

My current regimen...

» » Two years ago, I was losing hair like mad. I then started on Norwegian
» » Salmon oil by Carlsons and Borage Oil or Black Currant Oil by Health
» from
» » the Sun (1 gram of each). That combination dramatically halted my hair
» » loss. Recently, within the last 4 months, I have been taking Spirulina
» and
» » only taking the oils once in a while. I am also avoiding all sugar,
» high
» » fructose corn syrup, and just about anything that takes sweet. I am now
» » starting to see regrowth around my temples again. My hair looks better
» now
» » than it has in more than 2 1/2 years.
»
» Hogan, your reason for not eating anything sweet is the rise in blood
» sugar correct?

Yes. I am not sure if its the sugar directly or the insulin response that has a detrimental effect on the follicle.


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The Natural

10.05.2007, 02:32

@ Hogan38

Insulin resistance

Baldness Linked to Diet?
By Gabe Mirkin, M.D.

"The old theory was that the male hormone, testosterone, is converted to another hormone called dihydrotestosterone, that causes hair to grow darker and longer on the bodies, faces and sides of the head of men. Dihydrotestosterone also causes male pattern baldness by making hair on the top of the head thinner, lighter and shorter so you can't see it. Scientists developed a drug called Proscar to shrink enlarged prostates by blocking the formation of dihydrotestosterone. The same drug is sold as Propecia (at five times the cost) to help hair grow on bald men, but it is not very effective.

More than five years ago I reported that the present treatment for male-pattern baldness is not very effective and that male pattern baldness may be caused by insulin resistance, and that the western diet which is high in sugar and flour may cause irreversible hair loss. A study in the journal Lancet (Sept. 30, 2000) shows that male pattern baldness may well be caused by insulin resistance. Male pattern baldness means loss of hair on the top and front of the head, but not the sides. Insulin resistance means that a person cannot respond well to insulin causing both men and women to have very high blood levels of insulin. When you eat, your blood sugar level rises. To keep blood sugar levels from rising too high, your pancreas releases insulin which drives sugar from the blood into your cells. Some people respond poorly to insulin so their blood sugar levels rise too high and then they produce way too much insulin that causes man and women to lose hair.

Men who are at high risk for male-pattern baldness have the same characteristics as those who are likely to develop diabetes. They store fat primarily in their bellies, rather than their hips, have high blood triglyceride levels, have low blood levels of the good HDL cholesterol that prevents heart attacks, have a family history of diabetes , and are at high risk for suffering a heart attack and eventually developing diabetes.

Another study from Johns Hopkins shows that men who lose their hair early usually have high blood levels of insulin like growth factor-1, a hormone that the body produces in response to high blood sugar levels. Women who have a condition called polycystic ovary syndrome suffer from male-pattern baldness, have high blood insulin levels and can often be cured by taking medication to lower blood sugar levels and restricting foods that raise blood sugar the most, such as those with added sugar, bakery products, pastas and fruit juices. Eat root vegetables and fruits with other foods, and eat plenty of vegetables, whole grains, beans, seeds and nuts."


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Hogan38

10.05.2007, 11:20

@ The Natural

Natural, what does Immortal think about this?

» Baldness Linked to Diet?
» By Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
»
» "The old theory was that the male hormone, testosterone, is converted to
» another hormone called dihydrotestosterone, that causes hair to grow
» darker and longer on the bodies, faces and sides of the head of men.
» Dihydrotestosterone also causes male pattern baldness by making hair on
» the top of the head thinner, lighter and shorter so you can't see it.
» Scientists developed a drug called Proscar to shrink enlarged prostates by
» blocking the formation of dihydrotestosterone. The same drug is sold as
» Propecia (at five times the cost) to help hair grow on bald men, but it is
» not very effective.
»
» More than five years ago I reported that the present treatment for
» male-pattern baldness is not very effective and that male pattern baldness
» may be caused by insulin resistance, and that the western diet which is
» high in sugar and flour may cause irreversible hair loss. A study in the
» journal Lancet (Sept. 30, 2000) shows that male pattern baldness may well
» be caused by insulin resistance. Male pattern baldness means loss of hair
» on the top and front of the head, but not the sides. Insulin resistance
» means that a person cannot respond well to insulin causing both men and
» women to have very high blood levels of insulin. When you eat, your blood
» sugar level rises. To keep blood sugar levels from rising too high, your
» pancreas releases insulin which drives sugar from the blood into your
» cells. Some people respond poorly to insulin so their blood sugar levels
» rise too high and then they produce way too much insulin that causes man
» and women to lose hair.
»
» Men who are at high risk for male-pattern baldness have the same
» characteristics as those who are likely to develop diabetes. They store
» fat primarily in their bellies, rather than their hips, have high blood
» triglyceride levels, have low blood levels of the good HDL cholesterol
» that prevents heart attacks, have a family history of diabetes , and are
» at high risk for suffering a heart attack and eventually developing
» diabetes.
»
» Another study from Johns Hopkins shows that men who lose their hair early
» usually have high blood levels of insulin like growth factor-1, a hormone
» that the body produces in response to high blood sugar levels. Women who
» have a condition called polycystic ovary syndrome suffer from male-pattern
» baldness, have high blood insulin levels and can often be cured by taking
» medication to lower blood sugar levels and restricting foods that raise
» blood sugar the most, such as those with added sugar, bakery products,
» pastas and fruit juices. Eat root vegetables and fruits with other foods,
» and eat plenty of vegetables, whole grains, beans, seeds and nuts."


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The Natural

10.05.2007, 19:48

@ Hogan38

Natural, what does Immortal think about this?

If I remember correctly, it was Jacob who first posted this article sometime last year. But at the time, no one made much about it. I thought it was significant, so I included it in several of my own posts, and more specifically, I began to search for natural supplements to assist insulin metabolism and combat "insulin spikes" (e.g. chromium polynicotinate, pycnogenol).

Recently, I have noticed that ImmortalHair is addressing the subject of insulin resistance in his posts.


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The Natural

10.05.2007, 23:49

@ The Natural

Natural, what does Immortal think about this?

Or actually, I think it may have been "glucose control" that he mentioned.


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Amilcar

27.01.2008, 19:14

@ The Natural

Natural, how is your progress?

Hi The Natural,

Its my first in this section ..I ve curcumin and Ginger ..considering to try it..since it seems its already in your regimen I thought you can give me an idea how do you use it ! Thanks


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HanginInThere

Hair loss University,
27.01.2008, 19:32

@ Amilcar

Natural, how is your progress?

» Hi The Natural,
»
» Its my first in this section ..I ve curcumin and Ginger ..considering to
» try it..since it seems its already in your regimen I thought you can give
» me an idea how do you use it ! Thanks

his username is not even valid any more, if you click on it , it is not a link, it is just black


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---
Hangin Regimen...........

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg

The Natural

27.01.2008, 21:40

@ Amilcar

Natural, how is your progress?

Amilcar, I have used both supplements in the past. To be honest, I am not sure that curcumin did anything positive (or negative). I am, at present, not taking it. I would suggest using Taurine instead. Taurine is cheaper, won't upset your stomach, and, for me, seemed to work better with the green tea extract (and grape seed extract)that I was taking at the time.

I used ginger (together with garlic) a long time ago, and got mild results over a short period of time.



I see Hangin' is still here poking his nose in other people's business...


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---
The Natural Internal Regimen

Curcumin/Resveratrol (turmeric/tiger cane): http://tinyurl.com/2gyt8v
Vitamin E tocotrienols & alpha-tocopherol (palm fruit): http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7211274-fulltext.html
Green Tea Extract: http://www.hairloss-research.org/greentea.html
Garlinase

HanginInThere

Hair loss University,
28.01.2008, 00:18

@ The Natural

Natural, how is your progress?

» Amilcar, I have used both supplements in the past. To be honest, I am not
» sure that curcumin did anything positive (or negative). I am, at present,
» not taking it. I would suggest using Taurine instead. Taurine is cheaper,
» won't upset your stomach, and, for me, seemed to work better with the green
» tea extract (and grape seed extract)that I was taking at the time.
»
» I used ginger (together with garlic) a long time ago, and got mild results
» over a short period of time.
»
»
»
» I see Hangin' is still here poking his nose in other people's business...

at least i have a regimen that works :rotfl: more than i can say for yours


HanginInThere is located in HAIR LOSS UNIVERSITY and he is available to meet: NO

---
Hangin Regimen...........

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg

HanginInThere

Hair loss University,
28.01.2008, 00:50

@ HanginInThere

Natural, how is your progress?

» » Amilcar, I have used both supplements in the past. To be honest, I am
» not
» » sure that curcumin did anything positive (or negative). I am, at
» present,
» » not taking it. I would suggest using Taurine instead. Taurine is
» cheaper,
» » won't upset your stomach, and, for me, seemed to work better with the
» green
» » tea extract (and grape seed extract)that I was taking at the time.
» »
» » I used ginger (together with garlic) a long time ago, and got mild
» results
» » over a short period of time.
» »
» »
» »
» » I see Hangin' is still here poking his nose in other people's
» business...
»
» at least i have a regimen that works :rotfl: more than i can say for yours

also easy to assume you left the board, your last post was in august 2007


HanginInThere is located in HAIR LOSS UNIVERSITY and he is available to meet: NO

---
Hangin Regimen...........

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg

Pete2

28.01.2008, 16:13

@ Amilcar

curcumin and Ginger

» Hi The Natural,
»
» Its my first in this section ..I ve curcumin and Ginger ..considering to
» try it..since it seems its already in your regimen I thought you can give
» me an idea how do you use it ! Thanks


Lets get a little serious about hairloss and less wishy washy.

curcumin = great for your liver

Ginger = great for your kidneys

If you can include herbs that reduce DHT and Estradiol it should reduce hairloss.

Topically, look for a formula which increases SOD, reduces inflammation and increases bloodflow.






Regards
Pete


Pete2 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

---
1)Shampoo/Topical for Inflammation: Piroctone olamine shampoo/ Calosol Spray
2)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium,Pantothenic acid, choline(to be added)
3)Lifestyle factors: STRESS levels,moderate exercise, insulin,cholesterol,hydration.

The Natural

28.01.2008, 18:51

@ Pete2

Substance

Again, for the newcomers to this section, Peter2 is neither a doctor nor chemist. He doesn't even play one on TV :-P .

CHRONIC INFLAMMATION, HAIR LOSS, AND WHAT YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT


Chronic systemic inflammation has been found to at the root of many serious disorders, such as cardiovascular disease, asthma, arthritis, cancer, diabetes, depression and androgenetic alopecia. These “age related” disorders are accompanied by a pathological increase of inflammatory cytokines. Lowering pro-inflammatory cytokines, such as tumor necrosis factor –alpha, interleukin – 6, interleukin 1(B) and/or interleukin B4, could help prevent and treat many age related diseases. After several published studies, which showed that inflammation is present in androgenetic alopecia, MPB Research reported these important findings to readers, particularly stressing the need to address inflammation in any hair loss treatment approach, including our recommended protocol. Excessive levels of cytokines can be systemically and topically countered by an appropriate regimen of drugs, nutrients, dietary changes, and/or hormones. For example, fish oil has been shown to effectively lower these levels, as does DHEA, Nettle extract, GLA, and some antioxidants (vitamin E and N-acetyl cysteine). Meanwhile certain herbal extracts patented by Asian companies, Emu oil, copper peptides and ketoconazole can be used to topically partially inhibit cytokine formation. Following is an extensive analysis (in layman’s terms) that makes the connection between inflammation, and the “programmed cell death” of the hair follicle, a process known as “apoptosis”. It is partially based upon input from Waseda, a Japanese researcher who has been researching inflammation and androgenetic hair loss for many years. He has been able to initiate extensive hair regrowth after being a “slick bald” Norwood 5 for many years using an aggressive combination of therapies specifically designed to counter inflammation and an apoptosis factors.



TOWARDS A COMPREHENSIVE TREATMENT OF MPB

First we must recognize that hair loss is the consequence of hair cell apoptosis, or programmed cell death. Apoptosis is the final result of what is termed the caspase activation cascade. Essentially DHT, superoxide, and other free radicals damage the cell’s mitochondria, and the damaged mitochondria in turn vomits cytochrome C, which activates the caspase 9 cascade. TGF-beta and alpha activate caspase 9 around hair follicles. The activated caspase 9 propagates downstream into caspase 3. Activation of caspase 3 is thought to be a direct cause of cell apoptosis (programmed cell death) in general. What then causes a caspase activation cascade and how can one intervene in the context of hair loss?
Protein Kinase C (PKC) as an executor of apoptosis PKC isozymes are involved in the final execution of hair cell apoptosis in relation to caspase 3. What are good inhibitors of PKC? Cycloporin (dangerous), Grape Seed Extract, Resveratrol (as in red wine), Vitamin E, and N-Acetyl Cysteine. Topically, Grape Seed Extract (a patented treatment for hair loss), and Perilla Leaf Extract.
Tumor Necrosis Factor Alpha (TNF-a) as a promotor of PKC and hair cell apoptosis. TNF-a induces the PKC isozymes and causes cell death through this induction. This pathway is known to be a major cause of hair loss. TNF-a is a quick acting proinflammatory cytokine, and TNF-a is over secreted in cases of rapid hair loss. How can TNF-a be safely inhibited? Ginkgo Biloba Extract, Stinging Nettle Extract, Green Tea Extract, and essential fatty acids found in fish, Emu, Borage, and Perilla oils. Topically, Perilla leaf extract may be useful.
TGF-Family as the bridge between DHT and the activation of the caspase cascade. In recent studies researchers have found DHT promotes TGF, and TGF causes activation of the caspase cascade and thus, hair cell death, which clinically manifests as male and female pattern baldness. What inhibits TGH safely, as opposed to the dangerous anti-cancer compounds? Proteolytic Enzymes such as a bromelain, and the anti-oxidant Curcumin are TGF inhibitors. Shiseido, a Japanese cosmetic company found that Amacha, a sugar alternative found in the orient has TGF inhibition properties. Dr. Sawaya’s latest study about finasteride suggests that the best hair loss prevention would involve the blocking of caspase activation, especially caspase 3. Caspase 3 is the direct cause of programmed hair cell death (apoptosis) that originates “upstream”. The first triggers may be DHT damage or oxidative (free radical) stress on the mitochondria, TGF induction from DHT, TNF-A induction from allergic inflammation, or PKC upregulation by caspase activation. Here we can summarize the rationale behind the treatments of various pro-inflammatory mechanisms.

DHT inhibition- Finasteride, Saw Palmetto, Rivoflavin, Green Tea Extract, Copper, Peptides, and Topical Bayberry Extract.

PKC down regulation - Grape Seed Extract, Resveratrol, Vitamin E, Soy Isoflavones.

TNF-a down regulation- Curcumin, Ginkgo Biloba Extract, Stinging Nettle Extract, Green Tea Extract, Fish Oil, Borage Oil, Perilla Oil, and Topical Perilla leaf extract.

TGF down regulation- Curcumin, and topical Amacha.

Taking into account the inhibition of hair apoptosis factors, it is apparent that treatment can be taken to a new level. Again, Waseda himself is experiencing regrowth in all areas of his scalp after being a slick bald “Norwood 5” for many years.


The Natural is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

---
The Natural Internal Regimen

Curcumin/Resveratrol (turmeric/tiger cane): http://tinyurl.com/2gyt8v
Vitamin E tocotrienols & alpha-tocopherol (palm fruit): http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7211274-fulltext.html
Green Tea Extract: http://www.hairloss-research.org/greentea.html
Garlinase

Pete2

29.01.2008, 02:52

@ The Natural

Substance

» Again, for the newcomers to this section, Peter2 is neither a doctor nor
» chemist. He doesn't even play one on TV :-P .
»
» CHRONIC INFLAMMATION, HAIR LOSS, AND WHAT YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT
»
»
» Chronic systemic inflammation has been found to at the root of many
» serious disorders, such as cardiovascular disease, asthma, arthritis,
» cancer, diabetes, depression and androgenetic alopecia. These “age
» related” disorders are accompanied by a pathological increase of
» inflammatory cytokines. Lowering pro-inflammatory cytokines, such as tumor
» necrosis factor –alpha, interleukin – 6, interleukin 1(B) and/or
» interleukin B4, could help prevent and treat many age related diseases.
» After several published studies, which showed that inflammation is present
» in androgenetic alopecia, MPB Research reported these important findings to
» readers, particularly stressing the need to address inflammation in any
» hair loss treatment approach, including our recommended protocol.
» Excessive levels of cytokines can be systemically and topically countered
» by an appropriate regimen of drugs, nutrients, dietary changes, and/or
» hormones. For example, fish oil has been shown to effectively lower these
» levels, as does DHEA, Nettle extract, GLA, and some antioxidants (vitamin
» E and N-acetyl cysteine). Meanwhile certain herbal extracts patented by
» Asian companies, Emu oil, copper peptides and ketoconazole can be used to
» topically partially inhibit cytokine formation. Following is an extensive
» analysis (in layman’s terms) that makes the connection between
» inflammation, and the “programmed cell death” of the hair follicle, a
» process known as “apoptosis”. It is partially based upon input from
» Waseda, a Japanese researcher who has been researching inflammation and
» androgenetic hair loss for many years. He has been able to initiate
» extensive hair regrowth after being a “slick bald” Norwood 5 for many
» years using an aggressive combination of therapies specifically designed
» to counter inflammation and an apoptosis factors.
»
»
»
» TOWARDS A COMPREHENSIVE TREATMENT OF MPB
»
» First we must recognize that hair loss is the consequence of hair
» cell apoptosis, or programmed cell death. Apoptosis is the final result of
» what is termed the caspase activation cascade. Essentially DHT, superoxide,
» and other free radicals damage the cell’s mitochondria, and the damaged
» mitochondria in turn vomits cytochrome C, which activates the caspase 9
» cascade. TGF-beta and alpha activate caspase 9 around hair follicles. The
» activated caspase 9 propagates downstream into caspase 3. Activation of
» caspase 3 is thought to be a direct cause of cell apoptosis (programmed
» cell death) in general. What then causes a caspase activation cascade and
» how can one intervene in the context of hair loss?
» Protein Kinase C (PKC) as an executor of apoptosis PKC isozymes are
» involved in the final execution of hair cell apoptosis in relation to
» caspase 3. What are good inhibitors of PKC? Cycloporin (dangerous),
» Grape Seed Extract, Resveratrol (as in red wine), Vitamin E, and N-Acetyl
» Cysteine. Topically, Grape Seed Extract (a patented treatment for hair
» loss), and Perilla Leaf Extract.
» Tumor Necrosis Factor Alpha (TNF-a) as a promotor of PKC and hair
» cell apoptosis. TNF-a induces the PKC isozymes and causes cell death
» through this induction. This pathway is known to be a major cause of hair
» loss. TNF-a is a quick acting proinflammatory cytokine, and TNF-a is over
» secreted in cases of rapid hair loss. How can TNF-a be safely inhibited?
» Ginkgo Biloba Extract, Stinging Nettle Extract, Green Tea Extract, and
» essential fatty acids found in fish, Emu, Borage, and Perilla oils.
» Topically, Perilla leaf extract may be useful.
» TGF-Family as the bridge between DHT and the activation of the
» caspase cascade. In recent studies researchers have found DHT promotes
» TGF, and TGF causes activation of the caspase cascade and thus, hair cell
» death, which clinically manifests as male and female pattern baldness.
» What inhibits TGH safely, as opposed to the dangerous anti-cancer
» compounds? Proteolytic Enzymes such as a bromelain, and the anti-oxidant
» Curcumin are TGF inhibitors. Shiseido, a Japanese cosmetic company found
» that Amacha, a sugar alternative found in the orient has TGF inhibition
» properties. Dr. Sawaya’s latest study about finasteride suggests that
» the best hair loss prevention would involve the blocking of caspase
» activation, especially caspase 3. Caspase 3 is the direct cause of
» programmed hair cell death (apoptosis) that originates “upstream”. The
» first triggers may be DHT damage or oxidative (free radical) stress on the
» mitochondria, TGF induction from DHT, TNF-A induction from allergic
» inflammation, or PKC upregulation by caspase activation. Here we can
» summarize the rationale behind the treatments of various pro-inflammatory
» mechanisms.
»
» DHT inhibition- Finasteride, Saw Palmetto, Rivoflavin, Green Tea Extract,
» Copper, Peptides, and Topical Bayberry Extract.
»
» PKC down regulation - Grape Seed Extract, Resveratrol, Vitamin E, Soy
» Isoflavones.
»
» TNF-a down regulation- Curcumin, Ginkgo Biloba Extract, Stinging
» Nettle Extract, Green Tea Extract, Fish Oil, Borage Oil, Perilla Oil, and
» Topical Perilla leaf extract.
»
» TGF down regulation- Curcumin, and topical Amacha.
»
» Taking into account the inhibition of hair apoptosis factors, it is
» apparent that treatment can be taken to a new level. Again, Waseda himself
» is experiencing regrowth in all areas of his scalp after being a slick bald
» “Norwood 5” for many years.



Still copying and pasting I see - I wonder how you are fairing with your progesterone cream :)





Regards
Pete


Pete2 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

---
1)Shampoo/Topical for Inflammation: Piroctone olamine shampoo/ Calosol Spray
2)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium,Pantothenic acid, choline(to be added)
3)Lifestyle factors: STRESS levels,moderate exercise, insulin,cholesterol,hydration.

The Natural

29.01.2008, 11:13

@ Pete2

Substance

Oh, I do copy and paste. I don't plagiarize like you do, pumpkin eater, pretending to be something other than one of the many resident librarians here.

I also share my experiences with others as well ;-) . I used Roger Mason's Hair Again for about four months, which as you will recall, contained progesterone cream, but can't say if it did anything special. I am still researching the effect that excess estrogen can have on males as we age.


The Natural is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

---
The Natural Internal Regimen

Curcumin/Resveratrol (turmeric/tiger cane): http://tinyurl.com/2gyt8v
Vitamin E tocotrienols & alpha-tocopherol (palm fruit): http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7211274-fulltext.html
Green Tea Extract: http://www.hairloss-research.org/greentea.html
Garlinase

HanginInThere

Hair loss University,
29.01.2008, 12:34

@ The Natural

Substance

» Oh, I do copy and paste. I don't plagiarize like you do, pumpkin eater,
» pretending to be something other than one of the many resident librarians
» here.
»
» I also share my experiences with others as well ;-) . I used Roger
» Mason's Hair Again for about four months, which as you will recall,
» contained progesterone cream, but can't say if it did anything special. I
» am still researching the effect that excess estrogen can have on males as
» we age.

So you basically admit you have no regimen to talk ahout that you have used that has been successful:lol2:


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Hangin Regimen...........

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg

The Natural

29.01.2008, 13:18

@ HanginInThere

Substance

Hang ups,

Nothing has changed.

I am not bald. But you are still bald in the crown area, aren't you. You touted the Nizoral cream in this section, only to stop, after shedding all over the place.

I see David had to reprimand you recently. You should really learn to mind your own business, unless you have something constructive to add to this or any other discussion.

Best wishes,


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Vitamin E tocotrienols & alpha-tocopherol (palm fruit): http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7211274-fulltext.html
Green Tea Extract: http://www.hairloss-research.org/greentea.html
Garlinase

HanginInThere

Hair loss University,
29.01.2008, 13:32

@ The Natural

Keep dreaming you know anything

» Hang ups,
»
» Nothing has changed.
»
» I am not bald. But you are still bald in the crown area, aren't you. You
» touted the Nizoral cream in this section, only to stop, after shedding all
» over the place.
»
» I see David had to reprimand you recently. You should really learn to
» mind your own business, unless you have something constructive to add to
» this or any other discussion.
»
» Best wishes,

Speaking of minding your own business, are you the board moddy.? David asked me not to post on the Hair Multiplication board temporarily because they kept crying to him daily, about the fact that I dare to disagree that HM is right around the corner. David quickly dropped that request and removed his post about such...............:-D because he is not into censorship. He even specifically told the whiners. if you do not want hangin to post, do not make posts addressed to him. Doesnt sound like a reprimand to me

as far as having a bald crown , what does that have to do with anything. If you have never lost your hair and gotten a bald spot in a specific area, does that make you superior in knowledge to those who lost hair in an area 25 yrs ago, before all the latest developments? Nope

it means you were fortunate to have been in an age where plenty of solutions are there to save your hair

in the late 70s and early 80s, there was no internet, there was no rogaine etc to help guys , so we basically were stuck . Now that there are a lot of hair solutions out there, when you can show me something that can grow hair on a 20 year old slick bald area, I will eat my hat.

Until then , keep dreaming you know anything about hair loss, you dont:rotfl:


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Hangin Regimen...........

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg

chiaHead

06.02.2008, 20:33

@ The Natural

Waseda

» ...It is partially based upon input from
» Waseda, a Japanese researcher who has been researching inflammation and
» androgenetic hair loss for many years. He has been able to initiate
» extensive hair regrowth after being a “slick bald” Norwood 5 for many
» years using an aggressive combination of therapies specifically designed
» to counter inflammation and an apoptosis factors.

Waseda's "extensive" hair regrowth, from a Norwood 5 to a uh...Norwood 5.

http://www.hairsite2.com/waseda/wasedapics2.htm


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HanginInThere

Hair loss University,
06.02.2008, 23:17

@ The Natural

err

» Or actually, I think it may have been "glucose control" that he mentioned.




B vitamins are critical for protein synthesis ie critical to hair growth
why do you think all the super hair vitamins, Maxi Hair or Ultra Hair, are ABSOLUTELY LOADED WITH B VITAMINS IN HIGH AMOUNTS

plus they have 2000mcg timed released Biotin, another critical B vitamin

Sugar, refined versions of it , especially, as opposed to fruit sugar, and naturals.............uses us a ton of B vitamins during the digestive process. If you overload your body with sugar, your Blood levels of B vitamins plunges along with the accompanying RISE in insulin levels

This is why eating a lot of sugar is very damaging to your hair, and this is why the super hair vitamins are so focused on B vitamins


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Hangin Regimen...........

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg

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