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HairSite   07.09.2007, 00:23	Dr. Umar - Praying 5 mo update - 3000 BHT (pubic, chest) (Hair Transplant) Post reply
	Update. Dr. Umar's patient - Praying. 5 months ago he had ~3000 BHT grafts (Pubic, chest) to expand his temples. Here is a previous thread on him: http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=12&topic_id=52603&mode=full BEFORE - left BEFORE - right IMMEDIATELY POST OP - right IMMEDIATELY POST OP - left 5 MONTHS before and after - Hairpiece lifted - LEFT 5 MONTHS before and after - Hairpiece lifted - LEFT 5 MONTHS before and after - Hairpiece lifted - RIGHT 5 MONTHS before and after - Hairpiece lifted - RIGHT
HairSite   07.09.2007, 00:26 @ HairSite	individual shots - 5 months Post reply
	RIGHT side - 5 months, hairpiece lifted RIGHT side oblique - 5 months, hairpiece lifted LEFT side - 5 months, hairpiece lifted LEFT side oblique - 5 months, hairpiece lifted
HairSite   07.09.2007, 00:27 @ HairSite	Donor site Post reply
HanginInThere 07.09.2007, 05:49 @ HairSite	interesting Post reply
	I cannot imagine a guy with this extent of hair loss being a candidate for surgery, but this is not scalp grafts we are talking about then again since this is body hair, i guess the guy may actually have enough grafts available , he sure has none on the scalp to give --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
damon 07.09.2007, 05:57 @ HanginInThere	interesting Post reply
	The work done here is necessary for his piece to look normal. --- Internationally recognised victim Of Strip Surgery. Recently inducted into the Hall of Fame for great posters. Might is Right.Ultimately the moderator decides what is right & wrong regardless of what the facts are.
HanginInThere 07.09.2007, 06:09 @ damon	interesting Post reply
	» The work done here is necessary for his piece to look normal. ah hmmmm ht for a piece to look normal whatever it takes --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
thegreek 07.09.2007, 08:31 @ HanginInThere	interesting Post reply
	it looks like good work and a lot of growth, thumps up for me. thegreek has 1 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
ixan 07.09.2007, 12:56 @ thegreek	interesting Post reply
	It's very natural, I cant tell this is body hair. I also like how he design the area. Can we see how he is going to incorporate this new hair on the sides with his hairpiece? I used to wear one and I cant understand how he does it. It must be a very large hairpiece.
HanginInThere 07.09.2007, 13:00 @ ixan	interesting Post reply
	» It's very natural, I cant tell this is body hair. I also like how he design » the area. Can we see how he is going to incorporate this new hair on the » sides with his hairpiece? I used to wear one and I cant understand how he » does it. It must be a very large hairpiece. sorry but his hair is so thin, i dont want to be negative buy why not just shave it and get it over with no piece could possibly match the thin side hair, it must look a bit out of place and very obvious the piece --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
Sofarsogood Los Angeles area, 07.09.2007, 13:16 @ HanginInThere	kudos... Post reply
	Once again, good growth from Dr. U. IMO, this gentleman should now "frame the face" with a conservative, well shaped hairline and buzz it all down. Then add hair in back and on top after experiencing more growth in front. Red heads usually need less coverage. Finally, lose the piece. The stubble look is very popular. Just my opinion. Kudos doc. Sofarsogood has 7 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view --- BHT was used to "soften" my former HT hairline that was made up of larger grafts. At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case. http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood Video of my BHT result: http://youtube.com/watch?v=n_8uYbMTa4I
Jtelecom 07.09.2007, 13:35 @ Sofarsogood	kudos... Post reply
	Wow! I have never seen a guy with this extreme of hair loss attempt a transplant - it is verging on Alopecia Totalis. IMO, he should just shave it and move on. Nonetheless, it is a very natural job done by Dr. Umar. --- Jtelecom 5 Strip Surgeries (4 Bosley, 1 AlviArmani) 3 FUE Surgeries (2 Undisclosed, 1 AlviArmani) (Latest FUE Surgery: June 6, 2008 - AlviArmani Los Angeles)
michael_77 07.09.2007, 13:51 @ Jtelecom	Hair Peice... Post reply
	I wish hairpecies were more accepted. I mean, its just like clothes (they arent natural but no one complains) except for your head. Some people without hair are able to express themselves with a peice. I mean, its almost like a kind of creativity or self-expression at work there. It sucks that they're such a joke and so laughable. I'd like to see more pics of people with their hair systems/peices/wigs on this site.... michael_77 has 12 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view --- -MHR HTs (mistake) -2 Armani HTs -Propecia (1x daily) -Minox (approx 2x daily)
dreamster 07.09.2007, 13:58 @ michael_77	have you ever tried it? Post reply
	you say that now as you watch all the ads about those pieces and how immaculate they look. take it from me first hand that they are laughable to yourself. i had to humiliate myself and glue this thing on my head thinking that it would solve all my hairloss insecurities. then you humiliate yourself every 4 weeks when you have to go into one of those custome salons where they take your head off darth vadar style and cut the growing hair around it and scrape dead skin off your scalp. do not for one second glamorize this in your mind. it is like being a slave. you are afraid to have others notice it, you are afraid in your mind and you are going to end up beholden to it. trust me........ the only reason they become laughable to others is becaues they dont understand why you would hide it. to most others not going thru it they dont understand it and dont feel the pain of hairloss. but the pain of gluing something to your head makes it worse not better. i do feel for those who have not flipped their wigs bc there is a daily burden wearing that thing around that you have NO idea about until you succumb to your worst insecurities and put one on. then all you do is wonder how you can take it off without having to answer all the questions. dont do it
HanginInThere 07.09.2007, 14:08 @ dreamster	have you ever tried it? Post reply
	» you say that now as you watch all the ads about those pieces and how » immaculate they look. take it from me first hand that they are laughable » to yourself. i had to humiliate myself and glue this thing on my head » thinking that it would solve all my hairloss insecurities. then you » humiliate yourself every 4 weeks when you have to go into one of those » custome salons where they take your head off darth vadar style and cut the » growing hair around it and scrape dead skin off your scalp. » » do not for one second glamorize this in your mind. it is like being a » slave. you are afraid to have others notice it, you are afraid in your » mind and you are going to end up beholden to it. » » trust me........ » » the only reason they become laughable to others is becaues they dont » understand why you would hide it. to most others not going thru it they » dont understand it and dont feel the pain of hairloss. but the pain of » gluing something to your head makes it worse not better. » » i do feel for those who have not flipped their wigs bc there is a daily » burden wearing that thing around that you have NO idea about until you » succumb to your worst insecurities and put one on. then all you do is » wonder how you can take it off without having to answer all the » questions. » » dont do it hairpieces are always detectable they make the person a laughingstock much better to be naturally bald or shave, what can someone say? hes bald? yup but if you are pretending to have hair and everyone knows ur wearing a piece you are a joke its like your pants are down and you dont know it and everyone is snickering --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
thegreek 07.09.2007, 14:21 @ HanginInThere	have you ever tried it? Post reply
	» hairpieces are always detectable » » they make the person a laughingstock » » much better to be naturally bald or shave, what can someone say? hes bald? » yup » » but if you are pretending to have hair and everyone knows ur wearing a » piece you are a joke » its like your pants are down and you dont know it and everyone is » snickering Hanginh is harsh though he makes a good point...of course to each his own but sometimes hard words have alot of truth inside them.Sometimes our insecurities brings us in front of a greater problem than the one that created them... thegreek has 1 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
helpme007 07.09.2007, 14:48 @ thegreek	have you ever tried it? Post reply
	a friend of mine says its laughable. i think if its good and you have the right personality for it, its okay. but for me its nothing aswell. helpme007 has 3 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
marco U.K, 07.09.2007, 15:35 @ HairSite	Dr. Umar - Praying 5 mo update - 3000 BHT (pubic, chest) Post reply
	Fantastic job achieving all that you set out to do, and plenty more donor for the future!!! Congratulations!!! Dr. U, you said that you felt that you might have worked out how to predict good growth from BHT. Have you or haven't you. There have been so many BHT failures by many clinics including yours. Is a new dawn upon us??? marco has 1 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
johnp 07.09.2007, 16:20 @ ixan	interesting Post reply
	» It's very natural, I cant tell this is body hair. I also like how he design » the area. Can we see how he is going to incorporate this new hair on the » sides with his hairpiece? I used to wear one and I cant understand how he » does it. It must be a very large hairpiece. Look at the pics again. You can see him with the hairpiece on in one of the pics.
michael_77 07.09.2007, 16:26 @ dreamster	Yea, I've tried it Post reply
	you know what? i did do it a while ago. used to wear one. And I agree with you and know how it feels. I know the pain and the looks and that it is laughable. so horrible. I woudn't have felt so bad wearing it if we lived in a society that didn't care or even applauded our sense of changing ourselves into something physically different. I really dont mean to sound like a hippie or whatever. I'm over the fake hair thing. It;s just that its this solution that seems to be so close (yet so far away) from solving hairloss problems. I know they're a joke, but wish they werent. On a separate note, one thing is that though he may think so, not all the giggles the wig-wearer hears are directed at him. The wig-wearer is a paranoid individual. EX: I heard some giggles the other day from a couple people that I'm sure were not directed at me. Had I been wearing a wig (like I did a few years ago), that's the first thing I would have thought before running to the nearest bathroom to check my lace front or something. michael_77 has 12 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view --- -MHR HTs (mistake) -2 Armani HTs -Propecia (1x daily) -Minox (approx 2x daily)
JonnyE 07.09.2007, 16:38 @ marco	Dr. Umar - Praying 5 mo update - 3000 BHT (pubic, chest) Post reply
	» Fantastic job achieving all that you set out to do, and plenty more donor » for the future!!! Congratulations!!! » » Dr. U, you said that you felt that you might have worked out how to » predict good growth from BHT. Have you or haven't you. There have been so » many BHT failures by many clinics including yours. Is a new dawn upon » us??? why were you focusing on only this part of your head, shouldnt you address the top first? --- 3083 Grafts Transplanted by Dr. Armani in April 2004 Minoxidil 1 times daily 1.25 Proscar 1 times daily
marco U.K, 07.09.2007, 17:38 @ JonnyE	Dr. Umar - Praying 5 mo update - 3000 BHT (pubic, chest) Post reply
	» why were you focusing on only this part of your head, shouldnt you address » the top first? He was establishng the temple angles to be compatible with a hair system. He can go forward from there. marco has 1 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
ixan 07.09.2007, 17:51 @ michael_77	Yea, I've tried it Post reply
	I had tried it too I agree with what you said, though it could be very natural too if you are willing to spend the time to fix it, but after a while it's just not worth it, i spent way too much time trying to make it lookk right and it gets costly too with all the little extra here and there that you have to pay. It sucks being a slave to a hairpiece when every minute I wonder if the lace is showing.
ixan 07.09.2007, 17:59 @ marco	hairpiece Post reply
	» » why were you focusing on only this part of your head, shouldnt you » address » » the top first? » » He was establishng the temple angles to be compatible with a hair system. » He can go forward from there. There is good growth no doubt but it is not integrating well with the hairpiece in my opinion.
MPB 07.09.2007, 19:18 @ ixan	hairpiece Post reply
	Yeah- he’s a slave to his hairpiece alright. People need to understand the reason why some of us are "slaves" to our HP's. It’s easy to say just buzz it down and be done with it but try that after you have already been fucked up by a bad HT with all its glorious scars. BTW I don’t really give a fuck who sees the lace- it’s a lot less unsightly then the multitude of "unnatural" scars. Think about that for a second. OTOH some of you people infer the phrase "be done with it" as to just get on with your life and forget about it, yet its quite ironic that Praying doesn’t post here 24/7 like some of you. Maybe its b/c of the fact that he indeed does have "a life" and is not a "slave" to his fucking computer, consumed by hair forums logging down each and every new bean sprout making its debut. MPB has 1 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
Heliboy 07.09.2007, 19:26 (edited by Heliboy, 07.09.2007, 19:45) @ ixan	Hairpiece Post reply
	I agree with the kudo's given to Dr Umar for taking this on and the fantastic result . Praying has achieved excellent temporal restoration . When one wears a hairpiece you do anything possible to make it look/feel/appear more natural. I am glad that I no longer have to wear one thanks to Dr Umar. We all either have transplants or wear hairpieces for the sake of regaining our self-esteem and boosting confidence . Anyone who is either wearing a hairpiece or have worn one understand the goal that Praying is working toward in this phase of his restoration. SofarsooGood = I completely agree with you . I hope Praying is able to try and frame up the face and cover the rest of his Norwood area . I for one can tell you the shorter cut has been incredible for me after Dr Umar was able to reduce the visibility of my extensive strip scarring. . I am not 100% sure but I think Praying had his existing scarring problem (white dot syndrome caused by punch grafts from anohter M.D) taken care of with BHT by Dr Umar . The point I have tried to make so many times for a case like this is everyone has different goals. His goal now is to make life as normal /comfortable as possible with his hairpiece . When and if he feels the time is right to move forward with another phase of restoration I'm sure he will do so. Dr Umar - 19,000 Grafts by Dr Umar www.myhairtransformation.com
ixan 08.09.2007, 00:48 @ MPB	hairpiece Post reply
	I used to wear one myself and I was just talking about my experience, I wasn't saying that to put Praying down, I feel very sorry for him, I hope he will get his normal life back very soon.
benji 08.09.2007, 03:26 @ Heliboy	Temporal success Post reply
	This is an instance of body hair having a good result in temporal areas. We might keep that in mind. Im happy for this man and hope he looks natural in his hairpiece now. I wonder if "less is more" might still apply with the body hair however. After Coles' density study, showing 30 hairs per cm gave by far the highest yield, would it be better to transplant at that density first, wait a year to eighteen months, and then add a bit of density for a better result with body hair? This is something that remains to be elucidated with body hair. Perhaps its possible for body hair to achieve high density "up there" if it gets to anagen in less densities and simply has body hair added at later dates after the first hairs get acclimated? The hormonal environment and signalling environment must be very complicated on this area of the body, etc....... Things to ponder. Any way, Kudos.............
damon 08.09.2007, 04:34 @ benji	Saint Umar Post reply
	We should all be very thankful that this industry has a Doc like Dr Umar in it. The vast majority of docs here chase the easy glory.These docs will restore the hairlines on a NW1/NW2 patient & have their cheerleaders pat them on the back like they cured cancer.Occasionally they’ll do a repair case on a strip scar that’s the size of a paper cut & praise themselves like they have saved an entire race from genocide. Then you have Docs like Dr Umar, Woods & A who post pics/videos of one repair case after another. Repair cases that put the skills & surgical techniques of these docs at a disadvantage yet they are STILL willing to take on these cases. Some docs shamelessly promote themselves, others promote & PROVIDE hope. --- Internationally recognised victim Of Strip Surgery. Recently inducted into the Hall of Fame for great posters. Might is Right.Ultimately the moderator decides what is right & wrong regardless of what the facts are.
spotter 08.09.2007, 21:34 @ michael_77	Hair Peice... Post reply
	» I wish hairpecies were more accepted. I mean, its just like clothes (they » arent natural but no one complains) except for your head. Some people » without hair are able to express themselves with a peice. I mean, its » almost like a kind of creativity or self-expression at work there. It » sucks that they're such a joke and so laughable. I'd like to see more pics » of people with their hair systems/peices/wigs on this site....
Mr. Frodo 09.09.2007, 17:58 @ spotter	Elton John, Burt Reynolds Post reply
	If celebs like Elton John and Burt Reynolds talked more about their toupees openly in public, it will be become acceptable.
HanginInThere 10.09.2007, 00:09 @ Mr. Frodo	Elton John, Burt Reynolds Post reply
	» If celebs like Elton John and Burt Reynolds talked more about their toupees » openly in public, it will be become acceptable. the whole reason people wear toupees is to be stealth, and give the appearance they have hair, if they tell everyone HEY IM WEARING A WIG it kind of defeats the purpose --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
JonnyE 10.09.2007, 00:48 @ damon	Saint Umar Post reply
	» We should all be very thankful that this industry has a Doc like Dr Umar in » it. » » The vast majority of docs here chase the easy glory.These docs will » restore the hairlines on a NW1/NW2 patient & have their cheerleaders pat » them on the back like they cured cancer.Occasionally they’ll do a repair » case on a strip scar that’s the size of a paper cut & praise themselves » like they have saved an entire race from genocide. » » Then you have Docs like Dr Umar, Woods & A who post pics/videos of one » repair case after another. Repair cases that put the skills & surgical » techniques of these docs at a disadvantage yet they are STILL willing to » take on these cases. » » Some docs shamelessly promote themselves, others promote & PROVIDE hope. Its true, its much harder to take on repair case after repair case. A lot of docs wouldnt even want to take on some of these patients so it is a blessing to have docs out there that are willing to do this. --- 3083 Grafts Transplanted by Dr. Armani in April 2004 Minoxidil 1 times daily 1.25 Proscar 1 times daily
michael_77 10.09.2007, 11:05 @ HanginInThere	Muscleboy had a wig and it looked really good Post reply
	no purpose is defeated if we lived in an atmospher where telling others that we have wigs is acceptable. wearing them, in the end, is just about looking better, which with is what wigs can to. The people that should get laughed at are the ones that go for a very unnatural look (of course the problem with this is that 'natural' is very subjective). I wish i could see more pics of the peice wearers on this site (like Muscleboy - he looked awsome in his). I'll show you nmine if you show me yours michael_77 has 12 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view --- -MHR HTs (mistake) -2 Armani HTs -Propecia (1x daily) -Minox (approx 2x daily)