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jarjarbinx

16.01.2013, 20:24
(edited by jarjarbinx, 16.01.2013, 21:01)
 

bimatoprost and aderans - the next two big things. (Hair Multiplication & Stem Cells Treatment)

I think that bimatoprost and then aderans will be the next things to come down the pipeline. I think that a generic version of high dose scalp bimatoprost could come first and then the Allergan version and then right behind it would come aderans. I think aderans could hit american markets as soon as late 2014. And it could be sooner depending on the length of their phase 3 study. You gotta know that these companies are feeling the heat from one another. Billions of dollars are on the line. The company that comes to market first with a breakthrough treatment will get most of the glory and the most of the pent-up demand. These companies have to realize this. Aderans is already gathering phase 3 test subjects and doing the screenings. Wow!!!!




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Freddie555

17.01.2013, 03:35

@ jarjarbinx

bimatoprost and aderans - the next two big things.

You're psyching yourself into believing a cure is about to be released any day now and you will be very depressed when nothing happens.

The reality is hundreds of billions of dollars have gone into things like cancer research since the 50s and there is STILL no cure.

Things like spinal cord repair hasn't occured despite money being thrown at it.

There isn't fu*k all that the medical establishment has accomplished since the invention of anti-biotics and insulin in the early half of last century.

So how can anyone realistically expect with almost no money going into hair loss research that there is miraculously going to be a cure. I'm slowly coming around to the idea that we will all die bald even while the cure is "just 5 years away".




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G-MAN13

17.01.2013, 08:51

@ Freddie555

bimatoprost and aderans - the next two big things.

You're psyching yourself into believing a cure is about to be released any
day now and you will be very depressed when nothing happens.

The reality is hundreds of billions of dollars have gone into things like
cancer research since the 50s and there is STILL no cure.

Things like spinal cord repair hasn't occured despite money being thrown at
it.

There isn't fu*k all that the medical establishment has accomplished since
the invention of anti-biotics and insulin in the early half of last
century.

So how can anyone realistically expect with almost no money going into hair
loss research that there is miraculously going to be a cure. I'm slowly
coming around to the idea that we will all die bald even while the cure is
"just 5 years away".
If min and fin do exist, why should not i believe that something more effective will come out soon? I know they will.
But you,Ull stay bald forever u lil whiny bitch...now get lost *aggot..




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jarjarbinx

17.01.2013, 09:39

@ Freddie555

bimatoprost and aderans - the next two big things.

You're psyching yourself into believing a cure is about to be released any
day now and you will be very depressed when nothing happens.

The reality is hundreds of billions of dollars have gone into things like
cancer research since the 50s and there is STILL no cure.

Things like spinal cord repair hasn't occured despite money being thrown at
it.

There isn't fu*k all that the medical establishment has accomplished since
the invention of anti-biotics and insulin in the early half of last
century.

So how can anyone realistically expect with almost no money going into hair
loss research that there is miraculously going to be a cure. I'm slowly
coming around to the idea that we will all die bald even while the cure is
"just 5 years away".



Cancer treatment is much better than it was before they started pumping money into cancer research. And hair loss research has come a long way too. They're approach is more targeted today than it was years ago. Right now I do feel that the cure for hair loss is a few years away. The same as you feel I am too positive; I feel that you are too negative. I think we are about to receive a spate of phase 2 trials from 3 VERY IMPORTANT companies: Histogen, Allergan (Bimatoprost), and Aderans. In my view, the soon-to-be-released complete phase 2 trial info will tell us what we need to know. However, the info they've released from previous phase 1 studies, coupled with the early partial info they've already released from phase 2 studies, have me feeling VERY positive, but I do admit that it all gets down to what info comes out after they gather all of the phase 2 info and release it. But based on the phase 1 info, and the advance release of partial phase 2 studies, I think you're being needlessly negative. I think the info that we have already is grounds for some optimism. I think I'm right.

I don't expect anything from Replicel or Follica. I think they both belly-flopped. I think it's bimatoprost, Aderans, and Histogen that have the best chance of giving us good news. I'm really surprised that you don't see anything positive in the early advance info that has already been released regarding these 3 treatments. I think there is reason for some optimism. Look at the 3 different approaches:

1. Histogen - growth factors created in an embryonic setting. Since the growth factors were created in an embryonic environment the clock is turned back on these growth factors to a time when they could fend off the androgens. It's not the same as Follica's mature growth factors; these are embryonic-spawned growth factors that are young and tough enough to ward off DHT.

2. Aderans - cell transplant to the nth degree. Yea I know that some cell transplant companies have fallen by the wayside or are floundering like intercytex and replicel, but we have also seen evidence that the cellular approach will work. Look at the approach by the Japanese companies that used cell transplantation to grow hair on that mouse that made national news. It can work if it's done right. Aderans approach is more sophisticated, complex, and involved than the approaches by Replicel and Intercytex plus Aderans is trying a multitude of different regimens. I think that they really went after the problem of baldness in a very sophisticated way. I also think that the photos they have already released look like they are making progress. They're photos so far show a tightening of bald spots and even in the middle of bald spots where their treatment didn't fill in the blank spots it is obvious that they got peach fuzz to grow there. Those photos were phase 1. I'm confident that they have tweaked their treatment for phase 2 and their phase 2 photos will be better. But even if all it does is grow peach fuzz where there was no hair that will be good news because we can use bimatoprost or histogen to turn that peach fuzz back into real hair.

3. Bimatoprost - Bimatoprost has already been shown to grow eyelash hair in virtually 100% of patients. Scalp hair has been shown to have the same receptors for hair growth that eyelash hairs have. Bimatoprost has been shown in pre-clinical studies that it will grow existing hairs longer. It can turn short peach fuzz hairs back into real hairs.

I think we are about to get good news in just a few months.




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