Hair Loss - Dr. Jones' patient - 7600 grafts, Strip, ~ 1 year post op

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HairSite

18.09.2007, 15:12

Dr. Jones' patient - 7600 grafts, Strip, ~ 1 year post op (Hair Transplant)
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Before and after photos courtesy of Dr. Jones, for more patient results, please go to www.torontohairdoctor.com

Patient had 7600 grafts, Strip. FRONTAL and MID-SCALP restoration.

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Dr. Jones is one of the few doctors in the world who offers FUE, BHT and Triclosure techniques. For more patient results, go to
www.torontohairdoctor.com

HairSite is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

marco

U.K,
18.09.2007, 17:05

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Dr. Jones' patient - 7600 grafts, Strip, ~ 1 year post op
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I would guess that is about 230cm2 which would give an average of about 30-33 fue/cm2. The front loading of about 40 probably leaves about 25 fue/cm2 at the back. If that s all correct then it looks as good as it gets.

It would be good to see the donor and how many sessions was this.

It is good to see at long long last Dr. Jones has given a better and representative set of pics.

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marco is located in U.K and he is available to meet: NO

helpmeout

19.09.2007, 10:37

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Dr. Jones' patient - 7600 grafts, Strip, ~ 1 year post op
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It's pretty good, still a bit thin in the crown though.

helpmeout is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
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Propecia, Remox, Nizoral.

HairSite

19.09.2007, 10:54

@ helpmeout
Dr. Jones' patient - 7600 grafts, Strip, ~ 1 year post op
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This patient was completely BALD on top. This is an honest representation given the extent of his baldness and the # of grafts used. As stated in the original post, this case is about FRONTAL and MID-SCALP restoration.

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HanginInThere

19.09.2007, 11:48

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Dr. Jones' patient - 7600 grafts, Strip, ~ 1 year post op
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� This patient was completely BALD on top. This is an honest representation
� given the extent of his baldness and the # of grafts used. As stated in
� the original post, this case is about FRONTAL and MID-SCALP restoration.

really the patient was bald on top but his sides and back are hardly typical the part line is extremely high and the crown at the back has not receded way down at all

he had WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more hair on top because of the sides being so high than the normal NW7 patient lets say

for almost 8k grafts it looks good in the front but it just proves that there is no way in hell a guy can expect decent coverage on top if he could in any way be considered bald on top...................without body hair being used

8k grafts pretty much taps most guys out

if this guy goes way down on his part line to a NW7 he is totally screwed he is tapped out almost on scalp hair

HanginInThere is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
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Hangin Regimen...........

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg
2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo

HairSite

19.09.2007, 11:54

@ marco
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2 sessions.

HairSite is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

dastardly

20.09.2007, 07:45

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If you look at the pics you can see that he has only really had the frontal third restored. The top AND crown are both just fuzzy. This looks more like a 3-4000 graft job than 8000.

But at the end of the day, does he look better than before? Yes. Does it look natural? Yes. So the patient should be pleased.

But I really don't think this looks like 8000 grafts. He probably only last 20,000 follicular units to get to where he was. And half density (ie 10000) still looks like "no MPB hair" according to common wisdom. So with 8000 he should look okay but with a thinning crown. Not like this - ie fuzzy coverage and a restored frontal third.

dastardly is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

stitchmeup

20.09.2007, 14:15

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You are not being real if you think that 8000 grafts can cover a slick bald from front to back. No doctor in the world can do that. I had 2000 grafts and it barely covered my hair line.

stitchmeup is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

HanginInThere

20.09.2007, 14:27

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� You are not being real if you think that 8000 grafts can cover a slick bald
� from front to back. No doctor in the world can do that. I had 2000 grafts
� and it barely covered my hair line.

something is fishy then about the number of hairs they say we have on our heads

if we have 80,000 hairs, then you figure the top is about 1/4 of that or 20,000 hairs,

if he gets 8000 grafts avg 2.5 hairs per graft thats 20k hairs, so why does that only cover half of the top of his head

does not compute

HanginInThere is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
---
Hangin Regimen...........

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg
2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo

HairSite

20.09.2007, 14:51

@ HanginInThere
2 sessions
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� � You are not being real if you think that 8000 grafts can cover a slick
� bald
� � from front to back. No doctor in the world can do that. I had 2000
� grafts
� � and it barely covered my hair line.
�
� something is fishy then about the number of hairs they say we have on our
� heads
�
� if we have 80,000 hairs, then you figure the top is about 1/4 of that or
� 20,000 hairs,
�
� if he gets 8000 grafts avg 2.5 hairs per graft thats 20k hairs, so why
� does that only cover half of the top of his head
�
� does not compute

He is completely bald in the frontal area and on top. They probably used a large # of "singles" to reconstruct the frontal hairline. This is fantastic yield for someone who is completely bald on top.

HairSite is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

HanginInThere

20.09.2007, 15:25

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� � � You are not being real if you think that 8000 grafts can cover a slick
� � bald
� � � from front to back. No doctor in the world can do that. I had 2000
� � grafts
� � � and it barely covered my hair line.
� �
� � something is fishy then about the number of hairs they say we have on
� our
� � heads
� �
� � if we have 80,000 hairs, then you figure the top is about 1/4 of that
� or
� � 20,000 hairs,
� �
� � if he gets 8000 grafts avg 2.5 hairs per graft thats 20k hairs, so why
� � does that only cover half of the top of his head
� �
� � does not compute
�
� He is completely bald in the frontal area and on top. They probably used a
� large # of "singles" to reconstruct the frontal hairline. This is
� fantastic yield for someone who is completely bald on top.

could be the large number of singles, but I would like to see a breakdown of hairs on head total, sq cm on head total, sq cm on top of head, sides, back,
avg numbers of hair on healthy head, etc etc and then compare this with avg hairs per graft........for the avg transplant, etc etc

something , not just with this patient, but in general .........doesnt make sense about ht coverage on the avg patients

HanginInThere is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
---
Hangin Regimen...........

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg
2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo

stitchmeup

20.09.2007, 15:35

@ HanginInThere
2 sessions
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Is it 80,000 hairs or 80,000 follicles? 1 follicle can have several hairs, am I right ? I am always confused how many we were born with.

stitchmeup is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

HanginInThere

20.09.2007, 15:42

@ stitchmeup
2 sessions
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� Is it 80,000 hairs or 80,000 follicles? 1 follicle can have several hairs,
� am I right ? I am always confused how many we were born with.

i have always seen it written as 80,000 hairs 100,000 for the ones with higher density

HanginInThere is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
---
Hangin Regimen...........

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg
2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo

Jtelecom

20.09.2007, 19:45

@ HanginInThere
2 sessions
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Average number of scalp hairs in humans:

Blonde 146,000
Black 110,000
Brunette 100,000
Red 86,000

This was taken from Wikipedia. This is consistent with what I have seen in the past.

Jtelecom is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
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Jtelecom
5 Strip Surgeries (4 Bosley, 1 AlviArmani)
3 FUE Surgeries (2 Undisclosed, 1 AlviArmani)
(Latest FUE Surgery: June 6, 2008 - AlviArmani Los Angeles)

HairSite 18.09.2007, 15:12	Dr. Jones' patient - 7600 grafts, Strip, ~ 1 year post op (Hair Transplant) Post reply
	Before and after photos courtesy of Dr. Jones, for more patient results, please go to www.torontohairdoctor.com Patient had 7600 grafts, Strip. FRONTAL and MID-SCALP restoration. BEFORE BEFORE AFTER AFTER AFTER AFTER AFTER BEFORE & AFTER BEFORE & AFTER Dr. Jones is one of the few doctors in the world who offers FUE, BHT and Triclosure techniques. For more patient results, go to www.torontohairdoctor.com HairSite is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
marco U.K, 18.09.2007, 17:05 @ HairSite	Dr. Jones' patient - 7600 grafts, Strip, ~ 1 year post op Post reply
	I would guess that is about 230cm2 which would give an average of about 30-33 fue/cm2. The front loading of about 40 probably leaves about 25 fue/cm2 at the back. If that s all correct then it looks as good as it gets. It would be good to see the donor and how many sessions was this. It is good to see at long long last Dr. Jones has given a better and representative set of pics. marco has 1 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view marco is located in U.K and he is available to meet: NO
helpmeout 19.09.2007, 10:37 @ HairSite	Dr. Jones' patient - 7600 grafts, Strip, ~ 1 year post op Post reply
	It's pretty good, still a bit thin in the crown though. helpmeout is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Propecia, Remox, Nizoral.
HairSite 19.09.2007, 10:54 @ helpmeout	Dr. Jones' patient - 7600 grafts, Strip, ~ 1 year post op Post reply
	This patient was completely BALD on top. This is an honest representation given the extent of his baldness and the # of grafts used. As stated in the original post, this case is about FRONTAL and MID-SCALP restoration. HairSite is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- HairSite.com email: hairsite@aol.com for a free consultation ===================================== reminder: 1. StandUp2Cancer.org 2. Help China Earthquake Victims
HanginInThere 19.09.2007, 11:48 @ HairSite	Dr. Jones' patient - 7600 grafts, Strip, ~ 1 year post op Post reply
	� This patient was completely BALD on top. This is an honest representation � given the extent of his baldness and the # of grafts used. As stated in � the original post, this case is about FRONTAL and MID-SCALP restoration. really the patient was bald on top but his sides and back are hardly typical the part line is extremely high and the crown at the back has not receded way down at all he had WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more hair on top because of the sides being so high than the normal NW7 patient lets say for almost 8k grafts it looks good in the front but it just proves that there is no way in hell a guy can expect decent coverage on top if he could in any way be considered bald on top...................without body hair being used 8k grafts pretty much taps most guys out if this guy goes way down on his part line to a NW7 he is totally screwed he is tapped out almost on scalp hair HanginInThere is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
HairSite 19.09.2007, 11:54 @ marco	2 sessions Post reply
	2 sessions. HairSite is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
dastardly 20.09.2007, 07:45 @ HairSite	2 sessions Post reply
	If you look at the pics you can see that he has only really had the frontal third restored. The top AND crown are both just fuzzy. This looks more like a 3-4000 graft job than 8000. But at the end of the day, does he look better than before? Yes. Does it look natural? Yes. So the patient should be pleased. But I really don't think this looks like 8000 grafts. He probably only last 20,000 follicular units to get to where he was. And half density (ie 10000) still looks like "no MPB hair" according to common wisdom. So with 8000 he should look okay but with a thinning crown. Not like this - ie fuzzy coverage and a restored frontal third. dastardly is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
stitchmeup 20.09.2007, 14:15 @ dastardly	2 sessions Post reply
	You are not being real if you think that 8000 grafts can cover a slick bald from front to back. No doctor in the world can do that. I had 2000 grafts and it barely covered my hair line. stitchmeup is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
HanginInThere 20.09.2007, 14:27 @ stitchmeup	2 sessions Post reply
	� You are not being real if you think that 8000 grafts can cover a slick bald � from front to back. No doctor in the world can do that. I had 2000 grafts � and it barely covered my hair line. something is fishy then about the number of hairs they say we have on our heads if we have 80,000 hairs, then you figure the top is about 1/4 of that or 20,000 hairs, if he gets 8000 grafts avg 2.5 hairs per graft thats 20k hairs, so why does that only cover half of the top of his head does not compute HanginInThere is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
HairSite 20.09.2007, 14:51 @ HanginInThere	2 sessions Post reply
	� � You are not being real if you think that 8000 grafts can cover a slick � bald � � from front to back. No doctor in the world can do that. I had 2000 � grafts � � and it barely covered my hair line. � � something is fishy then about the number of hairs they say we have on our � heads � � if we have 80,000 hairs, then you figure the top is about 1/4 of that or � 20,000 hairs, � � if he gets 8000 grafts avg 2.5 hairs per graft thats 20k hairs, so why � does that only cover half of the top of his head � � does not compute He is completely bald in the frontal area and on top. They probably used a large # of "singles" to reconstruct the frontal hairline. This is fantastic yield for someone who is completely bald on top. HairSite is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
HanginInThere 20.09.2007, 15:25 @ HairSite	2 sessions Post reply
	� � � You are not being real if you think that 8000 grafts can cover a slick � � bald � � � from front to back. No doctor in the world can do that. I had 2000 � � grafts � � � and it barely covered my hair line. � � � � something is fishy then about the number of hairs they say we have on � our � � heads � � � � if we have 80,000 hairs, then you figure the top is about 1/4 of that � or � � 20,000 hairs, � � � � if he gets 8000 grafts avg 2.5 hairs per graft thats 20k hairs, so why � � does that only cover half of the top of his head � � � � does not compute � � He is completely bald in the frontal area and on top. They probably used a � large # of "singles" to reconstruct the frontal hairline. This is � fantastic yield for someone who is completely bald on top. could be the large number of singles, but I would like to see a breakdown of hairs on head total, sq cm on head total, sq cm on top of head, sides, back, avg numbers of hair on healthy head, etc etc and then compare this with avg hairs per graft........for the avg transplant, etc etc something , not just with this patient, but in general .........doesnt make sense about ht coverage on the avg patients HanginInThere is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
stitchmeup 20.09.2007, 15:35 @ HanginInThere	2 sessions Post reply
	Is it 80,000 hairs or 80,000 follicles? 1 follicle can have several hairs, am I right ? I am always confused how many we were born with. stitchmeup is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
HanginInThere 20.09.2007, 15:42 @ stitchmeup	2 sessions Post reply
	� Is it 80,000 hairs or 80,000 follicles? 1 follicle can have several hairs, � am I right ? I am always confused how many we were born with. i have always seen it written as 80,000 hairs 100,000 for the ones with higher density HanginInThere is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
Jtelecom 20.09.2007, 19:45 @ HanginInThere	2 sessions Post reply
	Average number of scalp hairs in humans: Blonde 146,000 Black 110,000 Brunette 100,000 Red 86,000 This was taken from Wikipedia. This is consistent with what I have seen in the past. Jtelecom is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Jtelecom 5 Strip Surgeries (4 Bosley, 1 AlviArmani) 3 FUE Surgeries (2 Undisclosed, 1 AlviArmani) (Latest FUE Surgery: June 6, 2008 - AlviArmani Los Angeles)

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