imor
20.11.2007, 05:48 |
Question to Wookster about Garlic (All Natural, Supplements & Diet) |
Hey Wookster....
I have been working with garlic for some time now....
As i have previously posted garlic was the only "med" worked for me... I saw results.
What i have been doing is smashing garlic and place it on the head for about 15 minutes max.... If you leave it more you will burn your head.
The bad thing is garlic odor remains on your head.... and that is a problem.
Have you been able to experiment with garlic? Have you found any ways to avoid / remove this odor?
Any suggestions / comments are more than welcomed...
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iMoR
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Working on...
Topical applied Garlic
Added: CounterPain Balm
Eugenol 13,7 mg/g
Menthol 54,3 mg/g
Methyl Salicylate 102 mg/g.
Fungoral Shampoo (2% Ketoconazole)
Vitamin E
Vitamin Complex |
HanginInThere
20.11.2007, 19:29
@ imor
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Question to Wookster about Garlic |
» Hey Wookster....
»
» I have been working with garlic for some time now....
» As i have previously posted garlic was the only "med" worked for me... I
» saw results.
»
» What i have been doing is smashing garlic and place it on the head for
» about 15 minutes max.... If you leave it more you will burn your head.
»
» The bad thing is garlic odor remains on your head.... and that is a
» problem.
»
» Have you been able to experiment with garlic? Have you found any ways to
» avoid / remove this odor?
»
» Any suggestions / comments are more than welcomed...
i know that when garlic is taken internally, they use i believe garlic and parsley together and this removes the garlic odor in the breath, but not sure if this works externally
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mumuka
20.11.2007, 20:45
@ imor
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Question to Wookster about Garlic |
»
»
» I have been working with garlic for some time now....
» As i have previously posted garlic was the only "med" worked for me... I
» saw results.
»
» »
» Any suggestions / comments are more than welcomed...
Maybe you will find this helpfull.This is what one poster wrote about garlic:
'' I mentioned this before but I heard from a morrocan guy, who said his father regrew hair on his bald spot after a traditional treatment with razor blades and garlic...Basically they made a lot of small cuts on the bald spot and rubbed this in with chrushed garlic (wound was left open). So I think this would probaby cause a wound somewhat similar to the one mentioned in the article, don't know what the benefit of the garlic would be... perhaps it leaves the wound open longer, increases bloodflow, disinfects or ups wnt protein signalling somehow, .
Anyway if I understood the article correctly the wnt proteins are already present naturally (though increasing them would be better indeed). So this treatment could (in theory) already work, you just need a razor blade and be a little crazy. ''
http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/viewtopic-f-32-t-42589-p-397941.html#p397941
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brm
20.11.2007, 23:35
@ mumuka
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Question to Wookster about Garlic |
Imor, how long have you been doing this? What results do you exactly obtain?
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imor
21.11.2007, 05:04
@ brm
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Question to Wookster about Garlic |
» Imor, how long have you been doing this? What results do you exactly
» obtain?
The first time I started, I was doing it for about 5 - 6 months.
I was able to restore the part where you first start losing your hair (between the front and middle part of the scalp, sometimes they symbol this area with the number 3 if you symbol the hairline with 1 and the temples with 2).
What you have to do is smash 2 garlic “cubes “(still haven’t found an efficient way) and then spread it all over your upper area of your scalp. Then cover / close your head with a supermarket bag for better absorption... Do NOT leave the garlic more than 15 minutes, because you will burn your skin!
Once a week for 15 min.
That is what I did. I saw Results which I didn’t see with rogain, dut, spironolactone and many more…..
The only bad bad bad thing is that you smell like a garlic….
I started again, and I am trying to find a way to eliminate this bad smell. I place smashed oranges and apples on my head the same way I do with garlic for an hour… but is not enough.
I am still searching...
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iMoR
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Working on...
Topical applied Garlic
Added: CounterPain Balm
Eugenol 13,7 mg/g
Menthol 54,3 mg/g
Methyl Salicylate 102 mg/g.
Fungoral Shampoo (2% Ketoconazole)
Vitamin E
Vitamin Complex |
goata007
08.04.2008, 22:54
@ imor
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Question to Wookster about Garlic |
imor...you said that you saw Results with garlic...what kind of results are we talking about? 5-10 new hair per cm2? did you regrow any hair on your temples?
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imor
09.04.2008, 08:18
@ goata007
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Question to Wookster about Garlic |
» imor...you said that you saw Results with garlic...what kind of results are
» we talking about? 5-10 new hair per cm2? did you regrow any hair on your
» temples?
This is an old post, do not know if any body will notice. ( I will give it try)
As i said before i was able to to restore the part where you first start losing your hair (between the front and middle part of the scalp, sometimes they symbol this area with the number 3 if you symbol the hairline with 1 and the temples with 2). When i say restore, i mean 60 - 80 % of the original density.
Just to mention that i started again with garlic (First week) already applied it twice. I can see better hair text already.
Still i am facing problems smashing the garlic and bad odor...
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iMoR
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Working on...
Topical applied Garlic
Added: CounterPain Balm
Eugenol 13,7 mg/g
Menthol 54,3 mg/g
Methyl Salicylate 102 mg/g.
Fungoral Shampoo (2% Ketoconazole)
Vitamin E
Vitamin Complex |
goata007
09.04.2008, 09:14
@ imor
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Question to Wookster about Garlic |
» Just to mention that i started again with garlic (First week) already
» applied it twice. I can see better hair text already.
»
» Still i am facing problems smashing the garlic and bad odor...
when you stopped did you lose the new hair growth?
Also, since its your first week, Can you take few pics now? so others on the board have a better idea about before and after. Thanks!
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ApeSmith
09.04.2008, 15:17
@ imor
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Question to Wookster about Garlic |
i do know that tomato juice does remove onion odor, it could also work for garlic, or apple cider vinegar could work too. As for the 'razor blade' method, i dont think the razor is meant to cut the skin per se, just shaving ones head leaves the scalp very raw and vulnerable to irritation. Irritating the scalp has shown to help in hair regrowth. So in theory, shaving your head then rubbing garlic would be efficient, without the need to actually make small cuts.
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imor
09.04.2008, 16:28
@ ApeSmith
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Working on Garlic |
» i do know that tomato juice does remove onion odor, it could also work for
» garlic, or apple cider vinegar could work too. As for the 'razor blade'
» method, i dont think the razor is meant to cut the skin per se, just
» shaving ones head leaves the scalp very raw and vulnerable to irritation.
» Irritating the scalp has shown to help in hair regrowth. So in theory,
» shaving your head then rubbing garlic would be efficient, without the need
» to actually make small cuts.
ApeSmith you are very right.
That is what was the case when i first started.
I had my hair saved #2 and garlic was applied to all thinning areas efficiently.
I will try to find some pictures in order to show...
Now my hair is longer (cause i am trying to hide AGA) so it will be a little bit difficult to achieve the same efficiency.
Despite that i am trying to find a way to smash the garlic down into a cream level...
»when you stopped did you lose the new hair growth?
»
»Also, since its your first week, Can you take few pics now? so others on the »board have a better idea
»about before and after. Thanks!
Goata007, yes when i stopped i lost the hair again since the blood supply went back to normal. BUT it was not like loosing the affect of the garlic but like natural shedding all over again (i mean naturally, not as ex. Rogaine in 1 month)
I will take pictures and post.
Just for your information, beside the increase of the skin's topical blood supply garlic contains alliin, ajoene, enzymes, vitamin B, minerals, and flavonoids which are very fast absorbed by the skin and blood.
The good news are that i have managed to lower the bad odor remaining INSIDE the skin. I am still working on it thought.
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iMoR
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Working on...
Topical applied Garlic
Added: CounterPain Balm
Eugenol 13,7 mg/g
Menthol 54,3 mg/g
Methyl Salicylate 102 mg/g.
Fungoral Shampoo (2% Ketoconazole)
Vitamin E
Vitamin Complex |
ApeSmith
09.04.2008, 17:54
@ imor
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Working on Garlic |
well, you could invest in one of those blender type things, it gives you options like, chopping, dicing and all the way to paste. I am wondering if its primarily the ingredients of garlic that help hair growth or a combination of ingredients and its 'spicy' irritating nature. If its just the ingredients, then those garlic extract capsules should also work.
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imor
10.04.2008, 04:02
@ ApeSmith
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Working on Garlic |
» well, you could invest in one of those blender type things, it gives you
» options like, chopping, dicing and all the way to paste. I am wondering if
» its primarily the ingredients of garlic that help hair growth or a
» combination of ingredients and its 'spicy' irritating nature. If its just
» the ingredients, then those garlic extract capsules should also work.
I believe it is both (ingredients + Blood Supply).
I have thinking about using the blender but the amount used is small... I will give it a shoot.
Just check the following...
"When crushed, Allium sativum yields allicin, a powerful antibiotic and anti-fungal compound (phytoncide). However due to poor bioavailability it is of limited use for oral consumption. It also contains alliin, ajoene, enzymes, vitamin B, minerals, and flavonoids." Wikipedia.
"One should learn to manage the DHT in our bodies. What we eat determines to a great extent the level of DHT in our bodies. One should cut down on animal fats. A proper diet would include a lot of fiber, which is available in fruits and vegetables. Doctors also recommend anti-prostrate foods, like soy products, rice, green and yellow vegetables, oysters, bran, pulses, garlic, pumpkin seeds, etc."
http://ezinearticles.com/?Testosterone-and-Prostrate-Cancer---Understanding-Mens-Health&id=554869
More research is need thought.
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iMoR
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Working on...
Topical applied Garlic
Added: CounterPain Balm
Eugenol 13,7 mg/g
Menthol 54,3 mg/g
Methyl Salicylate 102 mg/g.
Fungoral Shampoo (2% Ketoconazole)
Vitamin E
Vitamin Complex |
imor
10.04.2008, 04:55
@ imor
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Working on Garlic |
» » well, you could invest in one of those blender type things, it gives you
» » options like, chopping, dicing and all the way to paste. I am wondering
» if
» » its primarily the ingredients of garlic that help hair growth or a
» » combination of ingredients and its 'spicy' irritating nature. If its
» just
» » the ingredients, then those garlic extract capsules should also work.
»
I believe it is both (ingredients + Blood Supply).
I have thinking about using the blender but the amount used is small... I
will give it a shoot.
Just check the following...
"When crushed, Allium sativum yields allicin, a powerful antibiotic and
anti-fungal compound (phytoncide). However due to poor bioavailability it
is of limited use for oral consumption. It also contains alliin, ajoene,
enzymes, vitamin B, minerals, and flavonoids." Wikipedia.
"One should learn to manage the DHT in our bodies. What we eat determines
to a great extent the level of DHT in our bodies. One should cut down on
animal fats. A proper diet would include a lot of fiber, which is
available in fruits and vegetables. Doctors also recommend anti-prostrate
foods, like soy products, rice, green and yellow vegetables, oysters,
bran, pulses, garlic, pumpkin seeds, etc."
http://ezinearticles.com/?Testosterone-and-Prostrate-Cancer---Understanding-Mens-Health&id=554869
More research is need thought.
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iMoR
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Working on...
Topical applied Garlic
Added: CounterPain Balm
Eugenol 13,7 mg/g
Menthol 54,3 mg/g
Methyl Salicylate 102 mg/g.
Fungoral Shampoo (2% Ketoconazole)
Vitamin E
Vitamin Complex |
Jtelecom
10.04.2008, 13:40
@ ApeSmith
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Working on Garlic |
My guess is that it is the Allicin that is produced by crushing/cutting the garlic. Unfortunatley, Allicin degrades to nothing in a matter of a few days. Therefore, garlic extract capsules would be of zero benefit. Allicin is a fairly remarkable compond that acts as an antioxidant and also wards off bacteria and fungi. You HAVE to use fresh garlic to see any improvement. Don't be fooled by claims on a bottle of capsules.
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Jtelecom
5 Strip Surgeries (4 Bosley, 1 AlviArmani)
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imor
10.04.2008, 15:19
@ Jtelecom
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Working on Garlic |
» My guess is that it is the Allicin that is produced by crushing/cutting the
» garlic. Unfortunatley, Allicin degrades to nothing in a matter of a few
» days. Therefore, garlic extract capsules would be of zero benefit. Allicin
» is a fairly remarkable compond that acts as an antioxidant and also wards
» off bacteria and fungi. You HAVE to use fresh garlic to see any
» improvement. Don't be fooled by claims on a bottle of capsules.
Jtelecom, I don't refer to capsules and pills... I am talking about real garlic applied on scalp.
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iMoR
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Working on...
Topical applied Garlic
Added: CounterPain Balm
Eugenol 13,7 mg/g
Menthol 54,3 mg/g
Methyl Salicylate 102 mg/g.
Fungoral Shampoo (2% Ketoconazole)
Vitamin E
Vitamin Complex |
Jtelecom
10.04.2008, 19:13
@ imor
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Working on Garlic |
imor:
Perhaps you don't understand the format of this forum. If you will notice, I was replying to Apesmith.
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Jtelecom
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imor
11.04.2008, 17:01
@ Jtelecom
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Working on Garlic |
» imor:
»
» Perhaps you don't understand the format of this forum. If you will notice,
» I was replying to Apesmith.
Jtelecom, my apologies...
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iMoR
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Working on...
Topical applied Garlic
Added: CounterPain Balm
Eugenol 13,7 mg/g
Menthol 54,3 mg/g
Methyl Salicylate 102 mg/g.
Fungoral Shampoo (2% Ketoconazole)
Vitamin E
Vitamin Complex |
Jtelecom
13.04.2008, 00:59
@ imor
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Working on Garlic |
Imor:
I am interested in the garlic thing, but see that it may be troublesome to pulverize the garlic fine enough to apply. What is your method?
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Jtelecom
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ApeSmith
13.04.2008, 15:52
@ Jtelecom
|
Working on Garlic |
» Imor:
»
» I am interested in the garlic thing, but see that it may be troublesome to
» pulverize the garlic fine enough to apply. What is your method?
This lady uses a 'garlic press', a utensil one can by in most stores i suppose.
http://www.skin-care-recipes-and-remedies.com/hair-loss-remedy.html
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Jtelecom
13.04.2008, 16:44
@ ApeSmith
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Working on Garlic |
It is funny how I have searched on garlic + hair and came across many different websites with the SAME "recipe" for the garlic hair treatment. I truly believe that the ONLY ingredient that is useful is the garlic. I am not sure why they would add honey, chamomile, aloe, etc. to the mix - probably for show. They all sound like good, natural things, but probably have little, if any, benefit. I would not waste my time with the other ingredients and just apply the raw garlic.
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Jtelecom
5 Strip Surgeries (4 Bosley, 1 AlviArmani)
3 FUE Surgeries (2 Undisclosed, 1 AlviArmani)
(Latest FUE Surgery: June 6, 2008 - AlviArmani Los Angeles) |
goata007
13.04.2008, 16:53
@ Jtelecom
|
Working on Garlic |
» It is funny how I have searched on garlic + hair and came across many
» different websites with the SAME "recipe" for the garlic hair treatment. I
» truly believe that the ONLY ingredient that is useful is the garlic. I am
» not sure why they would add honey, chamomile, aloe, etc. to the mix -
» probably for show. They all sound like good, natural things, but probably
» have little, if any, benefit. I would not waste my time with the other
» ingredients and just apply the raw garlic.
I was surprised about that too...probably the only herbal/natural treatment which seems to work. Another thing I noticed was that most of the people mention regrowth with it and not just stopping of hair loss.
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Jacob
13.04.2008, 19:03
@ imor
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Garlic topical and shampoo |
King Garlic and Noni Hair Oil
Ingredients: Commercial Garlic Dietary Supplement-Noni Extract-Cocoa Butter-Shea Butter-Coconut Oil-Wheat Germ Oil (Vitamin E)-Vegetable Petrolatum-Beeswax. Fragrance: Patchouli-Menthol Rose. No Animal Ingredients-Preservatives-Artificial Colors-Perfumes.
King Garlic Noni & Coffee Shampoo
"This amazing shampoo provide you with a cocktail of sulfur compounds, vitamins, minerals, enzymes antioxidants and essential nutrients from King Garlic, coffee and Noni (Morinda Citrifolia). Designed to cleans, help strengthens hair especially weakened by thermal heat, chemicals, bleached and tinted hair to grow back healthy and strong naturally. Help conditions restores elasticity, manageability and shine all in one step. Combat hair loss, stop breakage and shedding in most cases. Noni blended with natural conditioner help controls frizz.
The caffeine in brewed coffee helps neutralize and preserve hair natural color. King Garlic Coffee & Noni Shampoo is brewed in organic coffee beans to provide your hair and scalp with polyphenols. The natural acids in caffeine also have a neutral pH for the hair and scalp. The sulfur cleansing agents in King Garlic helps remove excess oils, surface dirt, dead skin cells and unclogged pores. Leave hair smelling refresh, silky-soft and condition."
Hmmmmm...tempting
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Micellarin Green shampoo- http://tiny.cc/QXfmF
Lamas Chinese Herb Stimulating shampoo- http://tiny.cc/y5Gpo
AC-11- http://www.ac-11.com
BioSil: http://www.jarrowbiosil.com/
Neptune Krill oil: http://neptunekrilloil.com
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Jacob
13.04.2008, 19:11
(edited by Jacob, 13.04.2008, 19:20)
@ Jacob
|
Garlic topical and shampoo |
This one also contains minoxidil: http://store.sickbay.biz/algash8oz.html
I know there's another topical based around garlic..if the posts here wouldn't have been lost in cyberspace...
Another shampoo: http://www.amazon.com/QUEEN-HELENE-GARLIC-SHAMPOO-UNSCENTED/dp/B000AD1Y48
And another: http://www.beautyofnewyork.com/shopping/product_view.php?itemCode=ZU4S270107KL1254
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Evenings: Equisomin, Juveline, NanoScalp & Zormazor- www.elsomresearch.com
RepHair shampoo & volumizer- www.rephairbypierremichel.com/
Micellarin Green shampoo- http://tiny.cc/QXfmF
Lamas Chinese Herb Stimulating shampoo- http://tiny.cc/y5Gpo
AC-11- http://www.ac-11.com
BioSil: http://www.jarrowbiosil.com/
Neptune Krill oil: http://neptunekrilloil.com
Complete Metal Cleanse: http://tiny.cc/cUGWE
NanoPro: http://www.biopharmasci.com/patients/nanopro/default.asp
Other whey protein and greens/fruits products. Any good ones you'd like to share- please post 'em!
Also use shower filters..sauna..and I stand on the bright side of the sun.
(links are the company websites for info purposes..some can be purchased elsewhere, cheaper- shop around) |
Jtelecom
13.04.2008, 19:31
@ Jacob
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Garlic topical and shampoo |
Well, sure. There are a lot of garlic-containing shampoos and treatments, but the active ingredient Allicin degrades quickly (within a few days). It is MY opinion only that Allicin is the ingredient in garlic that produces the positive effects on hair.
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Jtelecom
5 Strip Surgeries (4 Bosley, 1 AlviArmani)
3 FUE Surgeries (2 Undisclosed, 1 AlviArmani)
(Latest FUE Surgery: June 6, 2008 - AlviArmani Los Angeles) |
Jacob
13.04.2008, 20:08
@ Jtelecom
|
Garlic topical and shampoo |
» Well, sure. There are a lot of garlic-containing shampoos and treatments,
» but the active ingredient Allicin degrades quickly (within a few days). It
» is MY opinion only that Allicin is the ingredient in garlic that produces
» the positive effects on hair.
Well of course there are 
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a way to preserve the Allicin content, besides putting it in a capsule. But then again maybe it's the other things found in garlic, including Cysteine. There are, after all, testimonials out there on these products.
In fact...there are Allicin containing skin products out there: http://allimax.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=7&Itemid=4
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Evenings: Equisomin, Juveline, NanoScalp & Zormazor- www.elsomresearch.com
RepHair shampoo & volumizer- www.rephairbypierremichel.com/
Micellarin Green shampoo- http://tiny.cc/QXfmF
Lamas Chinese Herb Stimulating shampoo- http://tiny.cc/y5Gpo
AC-11- http://www.ac-11.com
BioSil: http://www.jarrowbiosil.com/
Neptune Krill oil: http://neptunekrilloil.com
Complete Metal Cleanse: http://tiny.cc/cUGWE
NanoPro: http://www.biopharmasci.com/patients/nanopro/default.asp
Other whey protein and greens/fruits products. Any good ones you'd like to share- please post 'em!
Also use shower filters..sauna..and I stand on the bright side of the sun.
(links are the company websites for info purposes..some can be purchased elsewhere, cheaper- shop around) |
Jacob
13.04.2008, 20:35
(edited by Jacob, 13.04.2008, 20:42)
@ Jacob
|
re; the Allimax skin cream |
"Allimax® Cream contains 100 parts per million Allisure® AC-23 stabilized allicin"
Link
See the pdf's on the other products here: http://www.allimax.us/products.php
The liquid obviously would be more "potent" than the cream above.
And their Allimed even more potent(?): http://www.robprince.net/MRSA/forum-usa.asp?action=replys&forumID=5987
http://www.allimed.us/pdf/article/April2005%5B9%5D.pdf
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Mornings: Custom royal jelly, nanosomal SOD and Biotin, etc topical via Elsom Research.
Evenings: Equisomin, Juveline, NanoScalp & Zormazor- www.elsomresearch.com
RepHair shampoo & volumizer- www.rephairbypierremichel.com/
Micellarin Green shampoo- http://tiny.cc/QXfmF
Lamas Chinese Herb Stimulating shampoo- http://tiny.cc/y5Gpo
AC-11- http://www.ac-11.com
BioSil: http://www.jarrowbiosil.com/
Neptune Krill oil: http://neptunekrilloil.com
Complete Metal Cleanse: http://tiny.cc/cUGWE
NanoPro: http://www.biopharmasci.com/patients/nanopro/default.asp
Other whey protein and greens/fruits products. Any good ones you'd like to share- please post 'em!
Also use shower filters..sauna..and I stand on the bright side of the sun.
(links are the company websites for info purposes..some can be purchased elsewhere, cheaper- shop around) |
imor
14.04.2008, 04:27
@ Jtelecom
|
Working on Garlic |
» Imor:
»
» I am interested in the garlic thing, but see that it may be troublesome to
» pulverize the garlic fine enough to apply. What is your method?
Jtelecom,
Unfortunately, I have not found yet a way to efficiently apply the garlic on the skin. I am working on it though.
The last time I applied garlic, I used a blender to cut it into small pieces so I could bring it into a cream form. Once again I failed and I observed that I had lost the garlic oil.
Through my observation, I saw that garlic once crushed releases oil.
This oil seems to be carrying the allicin ingredient which is the product converted from Allium sativum (plus ajoene, enzymes, vitamin B, minerals, and flavonoids).
"Garlic contains some very volatile oils that are released when it's crushed or pressed. As garlic's cell walls are smashed, its oils react with its natural enzymes, and the smell and taste become exceedingly strong. If used immediately in raw preparations, the pungent pulp and extracted juices from pressed or pureed garlic give your dish a pronounced spicy flavour. Unfortunately, these oils don't last but turn rancid quickly and linger on hands, breath, and cutting surfaces. Pressed garlic doesn't hold up well when heated, either. It turns bitter and quickly loses its characteristic garlic flavour."
http://www.theepicentre.com/tip/smash.html
So basically I am left with one option which is a garlic press made out of porcelain. It is the same press they use in pharmacies to smash pills.
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iMoR
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Working on...
Topical applied Garlic
Added: CounterPain Balm
Eugenol 13,7 mg/g
Menthol 54,3 mg/g
Methyl Salicylate 102 mg/g.
Fungoral Shampoo (2% Ketoconazole)
Vitamin E
Vitamin Complex |
HairSite Admin
14.04.2008, 11:41
@ HanginInThere
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Question to Wookster about Garlic |
Garlic smell from hands is removed by rubbing hands with stainless steel material (spoon.....) . Salt or baking soda rubbed on the hands also remove the smell from the hands.
May be this can be tried for the smell in the scalp too.
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Jacob
14.04.2008, 11:57
@ imor
|
Working on Garlic |
»
» So basically I am left with one option which is a garlic press made out of
» porcelain. It is the same press they use in pharmacies to smash pills.
Or you could try a product already out there that contains the Allicin
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Mornings: Custom royal jelly, nanosomal SOD and Biotin, etc topical via Elsom Research.
Evenings: Equisomin, Juveline, NanoScalp & Zormazor- www.elsomresearch.com
RepHair shampoo & volumizer- www.rephairbypierremichel.com/
Micellarin Green shampoo- http://tiny.cc/QXfmF
Lamas Chinese Herb Stimulating shampoo- http://tiny.cc/y5Gpo
AC-11- http://www.ac-11.com
BioSil: http://www.jarrowbiosil.com/
Neptune Krill oil: http://neptunekrilloil.com
Complete Metal Cleanse: http://tiny.cc/cUGWE
NanoPro: http://www.biopharmasci.com/patients/nanopro/default.asp
Other whey protein and greens/fruits products. Any good ones you'd like to share- please post 'em!
Also use shower filters..sauna..and I stand on the bright side of the sun.
(links are the company websites for info purposes..some can be purchased elsewhere, cheaper- shop around) |
Jtelecom
14.04.2008, 14:06
@ Jacob
|
Working on Garlic |
My point is that anyone can say that their products contain Allicin, but it is common knowledge that Allicin, once produced by crushing or cutting the garlic, degrades to nothing in the matter of a few days. It seems a little suspect that a company can stabilize it for long periods of time, e.g. Allimax.
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Jtelecom
5 Strip Surgeries (4 Bosley, 1 AlviArmani)
3 FUE Surgeries (2 Undisclosed, 1 AlviArmani)
(Latest FUE Surgery: June 6, 2008 - AlviArmani Los Angeles) |
Jacob
14.04.2008, 19:47
@ Jtelecom
|
Working on Garlic |
But it's common knowledge that there are ways to preserve the Allicin content. There are so many other things where at one time it couldn't be done, but now it can.
Enzymatic Therapy also makes such a product in tablet form.
Here's some quotes from them, to save you some time:
"Garlic oil supplements do not contain allicin, only allicin-derived compounds that have little beneficial effects at normal levels of garlic consumption.6,7 Softgel or hard shell capsulated garlic powder supplements that contain alliin and allinase are destroyed by gastric acid before they can create allicin and have minimal health supportive activity.8-10
Aged garlic extract products purposefully do not contain allicin. Disregarding the abundance of evidence that demonstrates the significance of allicin, the manufacturers of AGE supplements claim that other compounds are responsible for garlic's health supportive properties.11 Some studies have demonstrated that AGE supplements may have limited benefit. However, because AGE manufacturers sponsored these studies and their findings have yet to be replicated, leading garlic researchers question the validity of these findings. To date, the scientific consensus contends that allicin obtained from enteric-coated garlic tablets provides the most significant health supportive benefit.12 "
"The patented Swiss process makes Garlinase 4000® truly unique among garlic supplements. When Garlinase 4000® tablets are swallowed, the enteric coating resists disintegration until it reaches the alkaline environment of the small intestine. There the Garlinase 4000® tablet dissolves releasing alliin and allinase to form allicin, which is slowly released over a long period of time and absorbed into the bloodstream.26 The slow release of Garlinase 4000® in the small intestine also provides the superior health benefits of fresh garlic, but without garlic's distinct, and sometimes offensive, odor"
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Mornings: Custom royal jelly, nanosomal SOD and Biotin, etc topical via Elsom Research.
Evenings: Equisomin, Juveline, NanoScalp & Zormazor- www.elsomresearch.com
RepHair shampoo & volumizer- www.rephairbypierremichel.com/
Micellarin Green shampoo- http://tiny.cc/QXfmF
Lamas Chinese Herb Stimulating shampoo- http://tiny.cc/y5Gpo
AC-11- http://www.ac-11.com
BioSil: http://www.jarrowbiosil.com/
Neptune Krill oil: http://neptunekrilloil.com
Complete Metal Cleanse: http://tiny.cc/cUGWE
NanoPro: http://www.biopharmasci.com/patients/nanopro/default.asp
Other whey protein and greens/fruits products. Any good ones you'd like to share- please post 'em!
Also use shower filters..sauna..and I stand on the bright side of the sun.
(links are the company websites for info purposes..some can be purchased elsewhere, cheaper- shop around) |
imor
15.04.2008, 04:32
@ Jacob
|
Working on Garlic |
To begin with I would like to mention that the 90% of the publications I have red about Allicin until now states that Allicin is unstable, and soon breaks down into a variety of other substances.
"When garlic is ground up and encapsulated, the effect is similar to cutting the bulb, thus garlic powder won't have any alliin or allicin left by the time it is purchased."
http://healthlibrary.epnet.com/GetContent.aspx?token=e0498803-7f62-4563-8d47-5fe33da65dd4&chunkiid=21729
But even if we agree that Allicin can be found and used via other products, it won’t have the same affect as topically applied garlic.
Through my experience, I have observed that topically applied garlic does not increases the scalp's blood flow only when applied, but restores scalp's blood flow in generally. To be more precise:
Before I start applying topically garlic and while combing my hair, the skin was remaining "white" (No Blood flow was generated).
After applying topically garlic and while combing my hair, the skin is turning into "red" (Blood flow is generated).
The above fact indicates that topically applied garlic revives the scalp’s skin.
Below are my observations until now (4 times applied garlic, 2nd week)
1. Hair Loss reduced approximately by 90%
2. Better hair texture - volume (healthier hairs)
3. Increase in Hair length
4. Increased scalp oil
5. New hairs formation (probably from resting phase)
What I describe above are my observations. That means that I might be wrong – might be right.
In a few days I will purchase I photo camera so I can post pictures and discuss – observe the results.
I would also like to thank everybody for your support and resourceful ideas.
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iMoR
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Working on...
Topical applied Garlic
Added: CounterPain Balm
Eugenol 13,7 mg/g
Menthol 54,3 mg/g
Methyl Salicylate 102 mg/g.
Fungoral Shampoo (2% Ketoconazole)
Vitamin E
Vitamin Complex |
The Natural
15.04.2008, 10:24
@ imor
|
Working on Garlic |
» Through my experience, I have observed that topically applied garlic [turns my scalp red].
The "redness" could mean a lot of things, including irritation (i.e. inflammation).
» Below are my observations until now (4 times applied garlic, 2nd week)
»
» 1. Hair Loss reduced approximately by 90%
» 2. Better hair texture - volume (healthier hairs)
» 3. Increase in Hair length
» 4. Increased scalp oil
» 5. New hairs formation (probably from resting phase)
After only four applications, no one (in their right mind) makes these kind of claims.
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Curcumin/Resveratrol (turmeric/tiger cane): http://tinyurl.com/2gyt8v |
goata007
15.04.2008, 19:18
@ The Natural
|
Working on Garlic |
» The "redness" could mean a lot of things, including irritation (i.e.
» inflammation).
»
»
» After only four applications, no one (in their right mind) makes these
» kind of claims.
I agree with TheNatural...the results seem way to fast + the redness of the scalp IS inflammation/irritation.
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"If we knew what it was that we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein |
imor
16.04.2008, 03:22
@ The Natural
|
Working on Garlic |
» After only four applications, no one (in their right mind) makes these
» kind of claims.
The Natural
If you have not seen I have made a statement above indicating that:
"What I describe above are my observations. That means that I might be wrong – might be right."
My purpose in this forum is to discuss - research our main problem which is losing our hair. I don't post to create false clarifications - impressions about garlic or anything else I might come up with.
Since you have posted that I might be "out of my mind" a phrase which disrespects me, I would like to suggest you not to follow my research and not post your opinion in this threat again.
On the other side, if you want to discuss my observations into details I would expect no disrespectful phrases.
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iMoR
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Working on...
Topical applied Garlic
Added: CounterPain Balm
Eugenol 13,7 mg/g
Menthol 54,3 mg/g
Methyl Salicylate 102 mg/g.
Fungoral Shampoo (2% Ketoconazole)
Vitamin E
Vitamin Complex |
imor
16.04.2008, 03:37
@ goata007
|
Working on Garlic |
» » The "redness" could mean a lot of things, including irritation (i.e.
» » inflammation).
» »
» »
» » After only four applications, no one (in their right mind) makes these
» » kind of claims.
»
» I agree with TheNatural...the results seem way to fast + the redness of
» the scalp IS inflammation/irritation.
I will agree that redness could mean a lot of things, including irritation and so on...
In this case I believe that the redness (which occurs when combing or massaging my scalp) has no negative meaning.
My scalp's skin is clean, that is no dandruff - scurf, no skin irritation, no itching.
I would like to mention once again that the skin becomes red when and only when combing hair or massaging scalp. It does not remain red.
Before topical garlic I had to press hard (massage) my scalp in order to create this redness (blood flow).
After topical garlic I can create blood flow easily (including combing - massaging).
What I describe above are my observations. That means that I might be wrong – might be right.
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iMoR
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Working on...
Topical applied Garlic
Added: CounterPain Balm
Eugenol 13,7 mg/g
Menthol 54,3 mg/g
Methyl Salicylate 102 mg/g.
Fungoral Shampoo (2% Ketoconazole)
Vitamin E
Vitamin Complex |
The Natural
16.04.2008, 10:07
(edited by The Natural, 16.04.2008, 10:13)
@ imor
|
Working on Garlic |
Imor, pardon me if you were offended. But I do not believe that after four applications of ANYTHING, you observed:
1. Hair Loss reduced approximately by 90%
2. Better hair texture - volume (healthier hairs)
3. Increase in Hair length
4. Increased scalp oil
5. New hairs formation (probably from resting phase)
There is no "gray area" here, where you might be right or you might be wrong. YOU ARE WRONG. And frankly, I find you and your posts to be quite irresponsible, whether this is your intention or not.
Come back in five months with before and after photos, and a detailed journal of "your observations." And then maybe, just maybe...
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The Natural Internal Regimen
Vitamin E tocotrienols & alpha-tocopherol (palm fruit): http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7211274-fulltext.html
Curcumin/Resveratrol (turmeric/tiger cane): http://tinyurl.com/2gyt8v |
Jtelecom
16.04.2008, 14:00
@ The Natural
|
Working on Garlic |
"And then maybe, just maybe... "
Then what, he will get a gold star from you? I don't see that some of his observations are beyond the realm of possibilities. The package insert on Rogaine says to DISCONTINUE use if results are not observed in two months, as a comparison. Please re-read his post:
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-16421-page-0-category-4-order-last_answer.html
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Jtelecom
5 Strip Surgeries (4 Bosley, 1 AlviArmani)
3 FUE Surgeries (2 Undisclosed, 1 AlviArmani)
(Latest FUE Surgery: June 6, 2008 - AlviArmani Los Angeles) |
The Natural
16.04.2008, 15:53
@ imor
|
Gold Star |
"Once a week for 15 min." And he did this for 5-6 months? I see.
I am confused by the following, however:
"Below are my observations until now (4 times applied garlic, 2nd week)
1. Hair Loss reduced approximately by 90%
2. Better hair texture - volume (healthier hairs)
3. Increase in Hair length
4. Increased scalp oil
5. New hairs formation (probably from resting phase)"
Is this guy performing a clinical study here? For example, how does he get the 90%? Where, pretell, does that figure come from?
Anyone?
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The Natural Internal Regimen
Vitamin E tocotrienols & alpha-tocopherol (palm fruit): http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7211274-fulltext.html
Curcumin/Resveratrol (turmeric/tiger cane): http://tinyurl.com/2gyt8v |
Pete2
18.04.2008, 01:37
@ Jtelecom
|
Working on Garlic |
» "And then maybe, just maybe... "
»
» Then what, he will get a gold star from you? I don't see that some of his
» observations are beyond the realm of possibilities. The package insert on
» Rogaine says to DISCONTINUE use if results are not observed in two months,
» as a comparison. Please re-read his post:
»
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-16421-page-0-category-4-order-last_answer.html
JT
What topicals are using these days?
Regards
Pete
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1)Shampoo for Inflammation: Piroctone Olamine shampoo /Essential oil blend / Calosol shampoo
2)Topical: Calosol Anti-inflammation Topical Spray (to be added)
3)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium (to be added) |
Jtelecom
18.04.2008, 13:32
@ Pete2
|
Working on Garlic |
Pete:
I alternate daily between minoxidil (5% Kirkland) and PolyGro. I use PO shampoo almost daily (Body Shop Ginger Scalp Care). I just finished off a bottle of Lamas shampoo and I am debating whether or not to purchase it again. I recently tried Proxiphen (prescription) again after several years of not using it and was not all that satisfied. I doubt that I will purchase it again. I am considering the garlic thing.
Any suggestions or recent treatments that have caught your attention?
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Jtelecom
5 Strip Surgeries (4 Bosley, 1 AlviArmani)
3 FUE Surgeries (2 Undisclosed, 1 AlviArmani)
(Latest FUE Surgery: June 6, 2008 - AlviArmani Los Angeles) |
Pete2
20.04.2008, 03:08
@ Jtelecom
|
Working on Garlic |
» Pete:
»
» I alternate daily between minoxidil (5% Kirkland) and PolyGro. I use PO
» shampoo almost daily (Body Shop Ginger Scalp Care). I just finished off a
» bottle of Lamas shampoo and I am debating whether or not to purchase it
» again. I recently tried Proxiphen (prescription) again after several years
» of not using it and was not all that satisfied. I doubt that I will
» purchase it again. I am considering the garlic thing.
»
» Any suggestions or recent treatments that have caught your attention?
Topically what I think is needed is something that :
1)Increases SOD levels
2)Reduces inflammation
3)Increases Bloodflow
The issues seems to be with the strength of topicals on the "market" or the lack of, that attempt to address the "immune response". So Im waiting for a super strength version to be developed. When its out and I start using it - Ill report back.
Have you got a link to the : Lamas shampoo ?
Regards
Pete
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1)Shampoo for Inflammation: Piroctone Olamine shampoo /Essential oil blend / Calosol shampoo
2)Topical: Calosol Anti-inflammation Topical Spray (to be added)
3)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium (to be added) |
imor
20.04.2008, 14:42
(edited by imor, 20.04.2008, 16:12)
@ The Natural
|
Working on Garlic |
» "Once a week for 15 min." And he did this for 5-6 months? I see.
»
» I am confused by the following, however:
»
» "Below are my observations until now (4 times applied garlic,
» 2nd week)
»
» 1. Hair Loss reduced approximately by 90%
» 2. Better hair texture - volume (healthier hairs)
» 3. Increase in Hair length
» 4. Increased scalp oil
» 5. New hairs formation (probably from resting phase)"
»
» Is this guy performing a clinical study here? For example, how does he
» get the 90%? Where, pretell, does that figure come from?
»
» Anyone?
The Natural
Let me help you a little bit with mathematics.
Lets imagine that everyday you lose 50 - 60 hairs per day. That happens when you wash your hair and when you comb them.
And lets imagine that once upon a time you apply something to your scalp that after 2 weeks you reduce your falling hair approximately down to 7 hairs per day. If you do the equation you get about 89 % reduce in hair loss.
It is as simple as it seems. No clinical studies, no difficult equations.
Have you any questions do not hesitate to post again...
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iMoR
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Working on...
Topical applied Garlic
Added: CounterPain Balm
Eugenol 13,7 mg/g
Menthol 54,3 mg/g
Methyl Salicylate 102 mg/g.
Fungoral Shampoo (2% Ketoconazole)
Vitamin E
Vitamin Complex |
imor
20.04.2008, 15:36
@ imor
|
Working on Garlic |
Ok guys...
I have just sent an email to David in order to upload some photos for me.
I will comment the photos when posted.
Until now, i have applied garlic 8 times. (3rd week).
The week passed i applied garlic 2 times in a row (in 2 days), and I have somehow burned some skin (spots) in the scalp.
As a result i will reduce and keep topical garlic applied twice a week.
I will also keep my eye on those burned spots...
The good news are that i have found finally a way to bring garlic nearly to a cream form. I have used a garlic press. It does good job smashing the garlic and keeping the ingredients on it until applied on scalp. I mention this cause i had a problem keeping the garlic oil. The garlic now is stronger and that is the reason i burned my skin.
My observations until now on progress remain steady. No further improvements.
I am pretty happy so far with the results. I believe it will take about one month to see further improvements.
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iMoR
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Working on...
Topical applied Garlic
Added: CounterPain Balm
Eugenol 13,7 mg/g
Menthol 54,3 mg/g
Methyl Salicylate 102 mg/g.
Fungoral Shampoo (2% Ketoconazole)
Vitamin E
Vitamin Complex |
The Natural
20.04.2008, 15:58
@ imor
|
Your ABCs |
Imor, let me help you with your English. It's "lose" not "loose hairs."
As for your "mathematics." We can do nothing but take your word for it. If you're getting results from putting raw garlic on your head (and can tolerate the aforementioned irritation), then good for you.
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The Natural Internal Regimen
Vitamin E tocotrienols & alpha-tocopherol (palm fruit): http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7211274-fulltext.html
Curcumin/Resveratrol (turmeric/tiger cane): http://tinyurl.com/2gyt8v |
imor
20.04.2008, 16:22
@ The Natural
|
Working on ABCs |
» Imor, let me help you with your English. It's "lose" not "loose hairs."
»
» As for your "mathematics." We can do nothing but take your word
» for it. If you're getting results from putting raw garlic on your head
» (and can tolerate the aforementioned irritation), then good for you.
Thanks for the correction... You see, i am also working on my English too...
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iMoR
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Working on...
Topical applied Garlic
Added: CounterPain Balm
Eugenol 13,7 mg/g
Menthol 54,3 mg/g
Methyl Salicylate 102 mg/g.
Fungoral Shampoo (2% Ketoconazole)
Vitamin E
Vitamin Complex |
goata007
21.04.2008, 16:27
@ imor
|
Working on Garlic |
» I have just sent an email to David in order to upload some photos for me.
» I will comment the photos when posted.
are the pictures up now?
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"If we knew what it was that we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein |
imor
22.04.2008, 02:50
@ goata007
|
Working on Garlic |
» » I have just sent an email to David in order to upload some photos for
» me.
» » I will comment the photos when posted.
»
» are the pictures up now?
It seems no yet.
I have sent an email to David with the photos on Sunday, but I am still waiting.
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iMoR
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Working on...
Topical applied Garlic
Added: CounterPain Balm
Eugenol 13,7 mg/g
Menthol 54,3 mg/g
Methyl Salicylate 102 mg/g.
Fungoral Shampoo (2% Ketoconazole)
Vitamin E
Vitamin Complex |
goata007
25.04.2008, 11:31
@ imor
|
To HairSite, Can you please post the photos that Imor mailed you |
» » » I have just sent an email to David in order to upload some photos for
» » me.
» » » I will comment the photos when posted.
» »
» » are the pictures up now?
»
» It seems no yet.
» I have sent an email to David with the photos on Sunday, but I am still
» waiting.
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"If we knew what it was that we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein |
HairSite
25.04.2008, 12:12
@ imor
|
Posting pics now, sorry for the delay |
Sorry for the delay.
This is the one that imor asked me to post in this thread. Am posting the rest of the pics within 30 mins.
![[image]](http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/img/uploaded/1_image352.jpg)
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imor
25.04.2008, 13:03
@ HairSite
|
Working on Garlic |
» Sorry for the delay.
»
» This is the one that imor asked me to post in this thread. Am posting the
» rest of the pics within 30 mins.
»
»
That is ok David!
The above photo applies to:
The first time I started, I was doing it for about 5 - 6 months.
I was able to restore the part where you first start losing your hair (between the front and middle part of the scalp (red circle), sometimes they symbol this area with the number 3 if you symbol the hairline with 1 and the temples with 2).
This photo was taken approximately the 3rd month of treatment.
Note that the photograph is not so good because it comes from a mobile phone (2 mega pixels) and it is the only photo i could find in order to post.
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iMoR
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Working on...
Topical applied Garlic
Added: CounterPain Balm
Eugenol 13,7 mg/g
Menthol 54,3 mg/g
Methyl Salicylate 102 mg/g.
Fungoral Shampoo (2% Ketoconazole)
Vitamin E
Vitamin Complex |
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