Hair Loss - Alternatives to Propecia?

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vivace67

Canada,
26.12.2007, 23:44

Alternatives to Propecia? (Propecia, Avodart, Spiro, DHT & hormones ...)
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Hello all!

This is my first post.

I'm a 40yo male with MPB. I'd say I'm a NW3 and I've managed, in my opinion, to keep it there with the use of Propecia, Minidoxil, and, most recently, the Laser Comb.

I've been taking Propecia for close to 7 years and I has most definitely affected my sexual performance, not my libido. I wonder if it's really worth...

So, I ask are any of you that subsitituted Propecia with another treament with any success. I've read, on this forum, that Saw Palmetto may be a good substitute...

Also, any other sugggested products to use that do not affect sexual performance, but maintain hair.

Many thanks for reading and your replies. :-)

vivace67 is located in CANADA and he is available to meet: NO

HairSite

All Over,
29.12.2007, 02:25

@ vivace67
Alternatives to Propecia?
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Give Saw Palmetto a try. It can't hurt. Some even recommend Beta Sis which is more potent than Saw Palmetto. If it doesn't produce the same results, you can always switch back to Propecia. Your downside is limited in my opinion.

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eddi3000

29.12.2007, 06:34

@ vivace67
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Hi
I don't really think that there is something like this.
But I hope that you will find something..

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vivace67

Canada,
31.12.2007, 03:55

@ eddi3000
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� Hi
� I don't really think that there is something like this.
� But I hope that you will find something..
�

I'm definitely going to try Saw Palmetto ...is there any special thing i need to take wiht it for absorbtion?

vivace67 is located in CANADA and he is available to meet: NO
---
Hair Regime

Propecia 1mg (daily)
5% Minoxidal (twice daily)
Hair-Max (2pills/day)
Saw Palmetto (320mg) & Pygeum Extract (daily)
Nettle Herb 870mg (daily)
HairMax Laser Comb (use 3 times/week)
Nizoral Shampoo (about 3 times a week)

Pete2

02.01.2008, 11:49

@ vivace67
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� � Hi
� � I don't really think that there is something like this.
� � But I hope that you will find something..
� �
�
�
� I'm definitely going to try Saw Palmetto ...is there any special thing i
� need to take wiht it for absorbtion?

Epilobium is another option to consider.

Regards
Pete

Pete2 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
---
1)Shampoo/Topical for Inflammation: Piroctone olamine shampoo/ Calosol Spray
2)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium,Pantothenic acid, choline(to be added)
3)Lifestyle factors: STRESS levels,moderate exercise, insulin,cholesterol,hydration.

HanginInThere

Hair loss University,
02.01.2008, 23:47

@ vivace67
Alternatives to Propecia?
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� Hello all!
�
� This is my first post.
�
� I'm a 40yo male with MPB. I'd say I'm a NW3 and I've managed, in my
� opinion, to keep it there with the use of Propecia, Minidoxil, and, most
� recently, the Laser Comb.
�
� I've been taking Propecia for close to 7 years and I has most definitely
� affected my sexual performance, not my libido. I wonder if it's really
� worth...
�
� So, I ask are any of you that subsitituted Propecia with another treament
� with any success. I've read, on this forum, that Saw Palmetto may be a
� good substitute...
�
� Also, any other sugggested products to use that do not affect sexual
� performance, but maintain hair.
�
� Many thanks for reading and your replies. :-)

Saw Palmetto worked great for me, however if you respond to it, make sure first of all you take standardized Saw palmetto, this means the potency has been measured, Also other DHT blockers when added to Saw Palmetto, will enhance your results if you are a responder, I got better and better results the more dht blockers i added, However you should also take Maxi Hair, and a good chelated mineral separately, to see good results

you might try adding these other dht blockers to Saw Palmetto
Pygeum
Nettles Leaf Powder
Beta Sitosterol,
Pumpkin Seed

HanginInThere is located in HAIR LOSS UNIVERSITY and he is available to meet: NO
---
Hangin Regimen...........

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg

HairSite Admin

22.11.2008, 08:23

@ vivace67
Alternatives to Propecia?
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�
� I've been taking Propecia for close to 7 years and I has most definitely
� affected my sexual performance, not my libido. I wonder if it's really
� worth...

Approximately 1 in 50 males (2%) reported one or more sexual side effects during finasteride (decreased libido, erectile dysfunction, or ejaculation disorder), compared with 1% in the placebo group.

Mondaini et al describes a �nocebo� phenomenon as when an adverse side effect is not a direct result of the pharmacologic action of the drug but rather of the patient knowing that it is a side effect. They tested this hypothesis in 120 patients on finasteride for benign prostatic hypertrophy (BPH) who were randomly assigned to groups that were informed or not informed of the side effects. After 6 and 12 months, the informed group reported a significantly higher incidence (43%) of sexual side effects than did the uninformed group (15%). While these results do not mean that we can intentionally withhold information from our patients, they do suggest that the sexual side effects can sometimes have a psychological, rather than a pharmacologic, cause.

=========\
Medical treatments for male and female pattern hair loss
Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology - Volume 59, Issue 4 (October 2008)

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---
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=====================================
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2. Free hair replacement system for men & women

cal

16.12.2008, 08:31

@ HairSite Admin
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Commercially influenced medical research says one thing about the frequency of Fin sexual sides, and common sense says another.

I trust common sense.

cal is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

vivace67 Canada, 26.12.2007, 23:44	Alternatives to Propecia? (Propecia, Avodart, Spiro, DHT & hormones ...) Post reply
	Hello all! This is my first post. I'm a 40yo male with MPB. I'd say I'm a NW3 and I've managed, in my opinion, to keep it there with the use of Propecia, Minidoxil, and, most recently, the Laser Comb. I've been taking Propecia for close to 7 years and I has most definitely affected my sexual performance, not my libido. I wonder if it's really worth... So, I ask are any of you that subsitituted Propecia with another treament with any success. I've read, on this forum, that Saw Palmetto may be a good substitute... Also, any other sugggested products to use that do not affect sexual performance, but maintain hair. Many thanks for reading and your replies. vivace67 is located in CANADA and he is available to meet: NO
HairSite All Over, 29.12.2007, 02:25 @ vivace67	Alternatives to Propecia? Post reply
	Give Saw Palmetto a try. It can't hurt. Some even recommend Beta Sis which is more potent than Saw Palmetto. If it doesn't produce the same results, you can always switch back to Propecia. Your downside is limited in my opinion. HairSite is located in ALL OVER and he is available to meet: YES email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting. --- HairSite.com email: hairsite@aol.com for a free consultation ===================================== reminder: 1. StandUp2Cancer.org
eddi3000 29.12.2007, 06:34 @ vivace67	Alternatives to Propecia? Post reply
	Hi I don't really think that there is something like this. But I hope that you will find something.. eddi3000 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
vivace67 Canada, 31.12.2007, 03:55 @ eddi3000	Alternatives to Propecia? Post reply
	� Hi � I don't really think that there is something like this. � But I hope that you will find something.. � I'm definitely going to try Saw Palmetto ...is there any special thing i need to take wiht it for absorbtion? vivace67 is located in CANADA and he is available to meet: NO --- Hair Regime Propecia 1mg (daily) 5% Minoxidal (twice daily) Hair-Max (2pills/day) Saw Palmetto (320mg) & Pygeum Extract (daily) Nettle Herb 870mg (daily) HairMax Laser Comb (use 3 times/week) Nizoral Shampoo (about 3 times a week)
Pete2 02.01.2008, 11:49 @ vivace67	Alternatives to Propecia? Post reply
	� � Hi � � I don't really think that there is something like this. � � But I hope that you will find something.. � � � � � I'm definitely going to try Saw Palmetto ...is there any special thing i � need to take wiht it for absorbtion? Epilobium is another option to consider. Regards Pete Pete2 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- 1)Shampoo/Topical for Inflammation: Piroctone olamine shampoo/ Calosol Spray 2)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium,Pantothenic acid, choline(to be added) 3)Lifestyle factors: STRESS levels,moderate exercise, insulin,cholesterol,hydration.
HanginInThere Hair loss University, 02.01.2008, 23:47 @ vivace67	Alternatives to Propecia? Post reply
	� Hello all! � � This is my first post. � � I'm a 40yo male with MPB. I'd say I'm a NW3 and I've managed, in my � opinion, to keep it there with the use of Propecia, Minidoxil, and, most � recently, the Laser Comb. � � I've been taking Propecia for close to 7 years and I has most definitely � affected my sexual performance, not my libido. I wonder if it's really � worth... � � So, I ask are any of you that subsitituted Propecia with another treament � with any success. I've read, on this forum, that Saw Palmetto may be a � good substitute... � � Also, any other sugggested products to use that do not affect sexual � performance, but maintain hair. � � Many thanks for reading and your replies. Saw Palmetto worked great for me, however if you respond to it, make sure first of all you take standardized Saw palmetto, this means the potency has been measured, Also other DHT blockers when added to Saw Palmetto, will enhance your results if you are a responder, I got better and better results the more dht blockers i added, However you should also take Maxi Hair, and a good chelated mineral separately, to see good results you might try adding these other dht blockers to Saw Palmetto Pygeum Nettles Leaf Powder Beta Sitosterol, Pumpkin Seed HanginInThere is located in HAIR LOSS UNIVERSITY and he is available to meet: NO --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg
HairSite Admin 22.11.2008, 08:23 @ vivace67	Alternatives to Propecia? Post reply
	� � I've been taking Propecia for close to 7 years and I has most definitely � affected my sexual performance, not my libido. I wonder if it's really � worth... Approximately 1 in 50 males (2%) reported one or more sexual side effects during finasteride (decreased libido, erectile dysfunction, or ejaculation disorder), compared with 1% in the placebo group. Mondaini et al describes a �nocebo� phenomenon as when an adverse side effect is not a direct result of the pharmacologic action of the drug but rather of the patient knowing that it is a side effect. They tested this hypothesis in 120 patients on finasteride for benign prostatic hypertrophy (BPH) who were randomly assigned to groups that were informed or not informed of the side effects. After 6 and 12 months, the informed group reported a significantly higher incidence (43%) of sexual side effects than did the uninformed group (15%). While these results do not mean that we can intentionally withhold information from our patients, they do suggest that the sexual side effects can sometimes have a psychological, rather than a pharmacologic, cause. =========\ Medical treatments for male and female pattern hair loss Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology - Volume 59, Issue 4 (October 2008) HairSite Admin is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- I offer research assistance for HairSite. email: hairsite@aol.com for free consultations ===================================== reminder: 1. Help China Earthquake Victims 2. Free hair replacement system for men & women
cal 16.12.2008, 08:31 @ HairSite Admin	Alternatives to Propecia? Post reply
	Commercially influenced medical research says one thing about the frequency of Fin sexual sides, and common sense says another. I trust common sense. cal is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO