Hair Loss - can soy protein cause hair loss?

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michael_77

03.03.2008, 14:21

can soy protein cause hair loss? (All Natural, Supplements & Diet)
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is it particularly good or bad for the hair?

michael_77 has 12 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
michael_77 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
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-MHR HTs (mistake)
-2 Armani HTs
-Propecia (1x daily)
-Minox (approx 2x daily)

HanginInThere

Hair loss University,
03.03.2008, 14:57

@ michael_77
can soy protein cause hair loss?
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ť is it particularly good or bad for the hair?

i have heard some strange stuff about soy, but i would not over do it, as with anything

HanginInThere is located in HAIR LOSS UNIVERSITY and he is available to meet: NO
---
Hangin Regimen...........

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg

brm

his room,
03.03.2008, 16:06

@ HanginInThere
can soy protein cause hair loss?
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It is said to be rather good. because of a substance whose name is equol. (Bioflavonoids, I believe). But I am no specialist.

brm is located in HIS ROOM and he is available to meet: YES
email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.

HanginInThere

Hair loss University,
03.03.2008, 16:27

@ brm
can soy protein cause hair loss?
Post reply

ť It is said to be rather good. because of a substance whose name is equol.
ť (Bioflavonoids, I believe). But I am no specialist.

Jacob posted something a while back about the female hormones in soy being bad for hair, I think , not sure

HanginInThere is located in HAIR LOSS UNIVERSITY and he is available to meet: NO
---
Hangin Regimen...........

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg

brm

his room,
03.03.2008, 16:45

@ HanginInThere
can soy protein cause hair loss?
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Maybe. But some articles are pro soy. Found this one.
http://www.soya.be/soy-baldness.php

brm is located in HIS ROOM and he is available to meet: YES
email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.

The Natural

03.03.2008, 16:52
(edited by The Natural, 03.03.2008, 17:00)

@ michael_77
photoestrogen
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It is an important question, one that I have been wrestling with since reading articles provided by posters here and elsewhere: whether or not to stop using supplements which have photoestrogenic activity, like soy and fo-ti.

I have used soy, with less than average results. But I like fo-ti (shen min), because of its other properties unrelated to hair loss (such as energy, stamina). But I have decided to stop using it...for now, and see what kind of effect this has on my hair.

At present, I am taking just maca and vitamin E (specifically, tocotrienols).

The Natural is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
---
The Natural Internal Regimen

Curcumin/Resveratrol (turmeric/tiger cane): http://tinyurl.com/2gyt8v
Vitamin E tocotrienols & alpha-tocopherol (palm fruit): http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7211274-fulltext.html
Green Tea Extract: http://www.hairloss-research.org/greentea.html
Garlinase

brm

his room,
03.03.2008, 23:10

@ The Natural
The natural
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I've been using fo-ti as well for the past year and a half. I do not see any anti hairloss effect (or then it is neglectable and helpless when I ease off DHT inhibitors), nor any anti grey, nor any energetic effect.
I take maca as well. Do you find this one has pro libido effects? I don't.
Where do you get your tocotrienols from?

brm is located in HIS ROOM and he is available to meet: YES
email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.

The Natural

04.03.2008, 09:43

@ brm
Natural
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Shen Min has a Fo-Ti extract. 12:1 ratio. So it's much more powerful than just raw Fo-Ti, which actually may have been to my detriment, assuming that this means there is more estrogenic activity present in the extract form.

Conversely, Maca should be taken in its natural raw form, not as an extract, to obtain its benefits related to hair loss.

I use TOCO-SORB from Jarrows.

The Natural is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
---
The Natural Internal Regimen

Curcumin/Resveratrol (turmeric/tiger cane): http://tinyurl.com/2gyt8v
Vitamin E tocotrienols & alpha-tocopherol (palm fruit): http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7211274-fulltext.html
Green Tea Extract: http://www.hairloss-research.org/greentea.html
Garlinase

michael_77

04.03.2008, 15:10

@ The Natural
what about Whey Protein?
Post reply

and its effect on hair... good? Bad? Innocuous?

michael_77 has 12 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
michael_77 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
---
-MHR HTs (mistake)
-2 Armani HTs
-Propecia (1x daily)
-Minox (approx 2x daily)

HanginInThere

Hair loss University,
06.03.2008, 15:49

@ michael_77
what about Whey Protein?
Post reply

ť and its effect on hair... good? Bad? Innocuous?

since it is a milk or cheese byproduct, thus similar to animal protein or actually animal protein, i would say its a complete protein but not to be overdone

animal protein is ok but not in excess, if it is taken in excess it causes uric acid to flood the bloodstream and causes a lot of shedding

HanginInThere is located in HAIR LOSS UNIVERSITY and he is available to meet: NO
---
Hangin Regimen...........

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg

Jacob

10.03.2008, 18:44

@ michael_77
can soy protein cause hair loss?
Post reply

Even those that say soy is ok stress to use/take FERMENTED soy/soy products.

And there's nothing wrong with whey. There are so many positives on whey there's just no whey I'd give it up in any whey. Owhey?

Jacob is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
---
Mornings: Custom royal jelly, nanosomal SOD and Biotin, etc topical via Elsom Research.

Evenings: Equisomin, Juveline, NanoScalp & Zormazor- www.elsomresearch.com

RepHair shampoo & volumizer- www.rephairbypierremichel.com/
Micellarin Green shampoo- http://tiny.cc/QXfmF
Lamas Chinese Herb Stimulating shampoo- http://tiny.cc/y5Gpo

AC-11- http://www.ac-11.com
BioSil: http://www.jarrowbiosil.com/
Neptune Krill oil: http://neptunekrilloil.com
Complete Metal Cleanse: http://tiny.cc/cUGWE
NanoPro: http://www.biopharmasci.com/patients/nanopro/default.asp
Other whey protein and greens/fruits products. Any good ones you'd like to share- please post 'em!

Also use shower filters..sauna..and I stand on the bright side of the sun.

(links are the company websites for info purposes..some can be purchased elsewhere, cheaper- shop around)

brm

his room,
10.03.2008, 21:19

@ Jacob
can soy protein cause hair loss?
Post reply

Sorry Jacob, but is soy milk a fermented soy product or is it considered raw?

brm is located in HIS ROOM and he is available to meet: YES
email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.

Jacob

11.03.2008, 19:05

@ brm
can soy protein cause hair loss?
Post reply

ť Sorry Jacob, but is soy milk a fermented soy product or is it considered
ť raw?

They do make such a thing(or you can make it yourself), but most out there are not fermented. It would say on the package if it is.

Jacob is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
---
Mornings: Custom royal jelly, nanosomal SOD and Biotin, etc topical via Elsom Research.

Evenings: Equisomin, Juveline, NanoScalp & Zormazor- www.elsomresearch.com

RepHair shampoo & volumizer- www.rephairbypierremichel.com/
Micellarin Green shampoo- http://tiny.cc/QXfmF
Lamas Chinese Herb Stimulating shampoo- http://tiny.cc/y5Gpo

AC-11- http://www.ac-11.com
BioSil: http://www.jarrowbiosil.com/
Neptune Krill oil: http://neptunekrilloil.com
Complete Metal Cleanse: http://tiny.cc/cUGWE
NanoPro: http://www.biopharmasci.com/patients/nanopro/default.asp
Other whey protein and greens/fruits products. Any good ones you'd like to share- please post 'em!

Also use shower filters..sauna..and I stand on the bright side of the sun.

(links are the company websites for info purposes..some can be purchased elsewhere, cheaper- shop around)

vivace67

Canada,
15.03.2008, 12:31

@ michael_77
can soy protein cause hair loss?
Post reply

ť is it particularly good or bad for the hair?

i was taking up to 1 litre of soy milk, which is a substitute for milk, daily... i stopped... soy is bad news... too much estrogen...

vivace67 is located in CANADA and he is available to meet: NO
---
Hair Regime

Propecia 1mg (daily)
5% Minoxidal (twice daily)
Hair-Max (2pills/day)
Saw Palmetto (320mg) & Pygeum Extract (daily)
Nettle Herb 870mg (daily)
HairMax Laser Comb (use 3 times/week)
Nizoral Shampoo (about 3 times a week)

michael_77 03.03.2008, 14:21	can soy protein cause hair loss? (All Natural, Supplements & Diet) Post reply
	is it particularly good or bad for the hair? michael_77 has 12 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view michael_77 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- -MHR HTs (mistake) -2 Armani HTs -Propecia (1x daily) -Minox (approx 2x daily)
HanginInThere Hair loss University, 03.03.2008, 14:57 @ michael_77	can soy protein cause hair loss? Post reply
	ť is it particularly good or bad for the hair? i have heard some strange stuff about soy, but i would not over do it, as with anything HanginInThere is located in HAIR LOSS UNIVERSITY and he is available to meet: NO --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg
brm his room, 03.03.2008, 16:06 @ HanginInThere	can soy protein cause hair loss? Post reply
	It is said to be rather good. because of a substance whose name is equol. (Bioflavonoids, I believe). But I am no specialist. brm is located in HIS ROOM and he is available to meet: YES email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.
HanginInThere Hair loss University, 03.03.2008, 16:27 @ brm	can soy protein cause hair loss? Post reply
	ť It is said to be rather good. because of a substance whose name is equol. ť (Bioflavonoids, I believe). But I am no specialist. Jacob posted something a while back about the female hormones in soy being bad for hair, I think , not sure HanginInThere is located in HAIR LOSS UNIVERSITY and he is available to meet: NO --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg
brm his room, 03.03.2008, 16:45 @ HanginInThere	can soy protein cause hair loss? Post reply
	Maybe. But some articles are pro soy. Found this one. http://www.soya.be/soy-baldness.php brm is located in HIS ROOM and he is available to meet: YES email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.
The Natural 03.03.2008, 16:52 (edited by The Natural, 03.03.2008, 17:00) @ michael_77	photoestrogen Post reply
	It is an important question, one that I have been wrestling with since reading articles provided by posters here and elsewhere: whether or not to stop using supplements which have photoestrogenic activity, like soy and fo-ti. I have used soy, with less than average results. But I like fo-ti (shen min), because of its other properties unrelated to hair loss (such as energy, stamina). But I have decided to stop using it...for now, and see what kind of effect this has on my hair. At present, I am taking just maca and vitamin E (specifically, tocotrienols). The Natural is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- The Natural Internal Regimen Curcumin/Resveratrol (turmeric/tiger cane): http://tinyurl.com/2gyt8v Vitamin E tocotrienols & alpha-tocopherol (palm fruit): http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7211274-fulltext.html Green Tea Extract: http://www.hairloss-research.org/greentea.html Garlinase
brm his room, 03.03.2008, 23:10 @ The Natural	The natural Post reply
	I've been using fo-ti as well for the past year and a half. I do not see any anti hairloss effect (or then it is neglectable and helpless when I ease off DHT inhibitors), nor any anti grey, nor any energetic effect. I take maca as well. Do you find this one has pro libido effects? I don't. Where do you get your tocotrienols from? brm is located in HIS ROOM and he is available to meet: YES email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.
The Natural 04.03.2008, 09:43 @ brm	Natural Post reply
	Shen Min has a Fo-Ti extract. 12:1 ratio. So it's much more powerful than just raw Fo-Ti, which actually may have been to my detriment, assuming that this means there is more estrogenic activity present in the extract form. Conversely, Maca should be taken in its natural raw form, not as an extract, to obtain its benefits related to hair loss. I use TOCO-SORB from Jarrows. The Natural is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- The Natural Internal Regimen Curcumin/Resveratrol (turmeric/tiger cane): http://tinyurl.com/2gyt8v Vitamin E tocotrienols & alpha-tocopherol (palm fruit): http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7211274-fulltext.html Green Tea Extract: http://www.hairloss-research.org/greentea.html Garlinase
michael_77 04.03.2008, 15:10 @ The Natural	what about Whey Protein? Post reply
	and its effect on hair... good? Bad? Innocuous? michael_77 has 12 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view michael_77 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- -MHR HTs (mistake) -2 Armani HTs -Propecia (1x daily) -Minox (approx 2x daily)
HanginInThere Hair loss University, 06.03.2008, 15:49 @ michael_77	what about Whey Protein? Post reply
	ť and its effect on hair... good? Bad? Innocuous? since it is a milk or cheese byproduct, thus similar to animal protein or actually animal protein, i would say its a complete protein but not to be overdone animal protein is ok but not in excess, if it is taken in excess it causes uric acid to flood the bloodstream and causes a lot of shedding HanginInThere is located in HAIR LOSS UNIVERSITY and he is available to meet: NO --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg
Jacob 10.03.2008, 18:44 @ michael_77	can soy protein cause hair loss? Post reply
	Even those that say soy is ok stress to use/take FERMENTED soy/soy products. And there's nothing wrong with whey. There are so many positives on whey there's just no whey I'd give it up in any whey. Owhey? Jacob is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Mornings: Custom royal jelly, nanosomal SOD and Biotin, etc topical via Elsom Research. Evenings: Equisomin, Juveline, NanoScalp & Zormazor- www.elsomresearch.com RepHair shampoo & volumizer- www.rephairbypierremichel.com/ Micellarin Green shampoo- http://tiny.cc/QXfmF Lamas Chinese Herb Stimulating shampoo- http://tiny.cc/y5Gpo AC-11- http://www.ac-11.com BioSil: http://www.jarrowbiosil.com/ Neptune Krill oil: http://neptunekrilloil.com Complete Metal Cleanse: http://tiny.cc/cUGWE NanoPro: http://www.biopharmasci.com/patients/nanopro/default.asp Other whey protein and greens/fruits products. Any good ones you'd like to share- please post 'em! Also use shower filters..sauna..and I stand on the bright side of the sun. (links are the company websites for info purposes..some can be purchased elsewhere, cheaper- shop around)
brm his room, 10.03.2008, 21:19 @ Jacob	can soy protein cause hair loss? Post reply
	Sorry Jacob, but is soy milk a fermented soy product or is it considered raw? brm is located in HIS ROOM and he is available to meet: YES email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.
Jacob 11.03.2008, 19:05 @ brm	can soy protein cause hair loss? Post reply
	ť Sorry Jacob, but is soy milk a fermented soy product or is it considered ť raw? They do make such a thing(or you can make it yourself), but most out there are not fermented. It would say on the package if it is. Jacob is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Mornings: Custom royal jelly, nanosomal SOD and Biotin, etc topical via Elsom Research. Evenings: Equisomin, Juveline, NanoScalp & Zormazor- www.elsomresearch.com RepHair shampoo & volumizer- www.rephairbypierremichel.com/ Micellarin Green shampoo- http://tiny.cc/QXfmF Lamas Chinese Herb Stimulating shampoo- http://tiny.cc/y5Gpo AC-11- http://www.ac-11.com BioSil: http://www.jarrowbiosil.com/ Neptune Krill oil: http://neptunekrilloil.com Complete Metal Cleanse: http://tiny.cc/cUGWE NanoPro: http://www.biopharmasci.com/patients/nanopro/default.asp Other whey protein and greens/fruits products. Any good ones you'd like to share- please post 'em! Also use shower filters..sauna..and I stand on the bright side of the sun. (links are the company websites for info purposes..some can be purchased elsewhere, cheaper- shop around)
vivace67 Canada, 15.03.2008, 12:31 @ michael_77	can soy protein cause hair loss? Post reply
	ť is it particularly good or bad for the hair? i was taking up to 1 litre of soy milk, which is a substitute for milk, daily... i stopped... soy is bad news... too much estrogen... vivace67 is located in CANADA and he is available to meet: NO --- Hair Regime Propecia 1mg (daily) 5% Minoxidal (twice daily) Hair-Max (2pills/day) Saw Palmetto (320mg) & Pygeum Extract (daily) Nettle Herb 870mg (daily) HairMax Laser Comb (use 3 times/week) Nizoral Shampoo (about 3 times a week)