Goingallout
13.03.2008, 23:36
(edited by Goingallout, 14.03.2008, 00:13) |
Dutasteride, Rogaine, Nizoral, Lysine, Biotin, Exercise, L-Arginine (Propecia, Avodart, Spiro, DHT & hormones ...) |
I am going to start a log of my results on the following regime which I am in the process of starting up. But first I have some questions that are asked in the parantheses below:
0.5 Dutasteride daily
Rogaine Foam 2x daily (should I only apply it to the crown and vertex or also to my hairline)?
Nizoral 2% cream (how often do people suggest?)
1g Lysine daily
2,000 mcg Biotin daily
4 g daily MSM
10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of growth hormone, especially in those who exercise)
Multivitamin
Any thoughts?
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Goingallout
14.03.2008, 00:20
@ Goingallout
|
1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results |
» I am going to start a log of my results on the following regime which I am
» in the process of starting up. But first I have some questions that are
» asked in the parantheses below:
»
» 0.5 Dutasteride daily
» Rogaine Foam 2x daily (should I only apply it to the crown and vertex or
» also to my hairline)?
» Nizoral 2% cream (how often do people suggest?)
» 1g Lysine daily
» 2,000 mcg Biotin daily
» 4 g daily MSM
» 10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of growth
» hormone, especially in those who exercise)
» Multivitamin
»
» Any thoughts?
1st week: No visible results (not that I was expecting any). But there have been changes. It should be noted that during the first week I wasn't using Rogaine or Nizoral cream (but did use 1% Nizoral shampoo twice) and I started Rogaine last night. Firstly, on Dutas, my libido took a bit of a nosedive. I had sex two days ago with a girlfriend and was able to function for the first go-around, though my desire's a bit curbed. I think I would have been able to bounce back quicker for a second go were I not taking Dutasteride. There have been some mood shifts and near headaches which I seem to be able to head off by exercise. The BIGGEST change is that my scalp doesn't itch; this is actually a huge relief. The itchiness of my scalp before was beginning to make me go batty.
NOTE: I won't post unless there are changes worth noting either in terms of results or physical effects.
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dave21
14.03.2008, 02:39
@ Goingallout
|
1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results |
» » I am going to start a log of my results on the following regime which I
» am
» » in the process of starting up. But first I have some questions that
» are
» » asked in the parantheses below:
» »
» » 0.5 Dutasteride daily
» » Rogaine Foam 2x daily (should I only apply it to the crown and vertex
» or
» » also to my hairline)?
» » Nizoral 2% cream (how often do people suggest?)
» » 1g Lysine daily
» » 2,000 mcg Biotin daily
» » 4 g daily MSM
» » 10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of growth
» » hormone, especially in those who exercise)
» » Multivitamin
» »
» » Any thoughts?
»
»
» 1st week: No visible results (not that I was expecting any). But there
» have been changes. It should be noted that during the first week I wasn't
» using Rogaine or Nizoral cream (but did use 1% Nizoral shampoo twice) and
» I started Rogaine last night. Firstly, on Dutas, my libido took a bit of
» a nosedive. I had sex two days ago with a girlfriend and was able to
» function for the first go-around, though my desire's a bit curbed. I think
» I would have been able to bounce back quicker for a second go were I not
» taking Dutasteride. There have been some mood shifts and near headaches
» which I seem to be able to head off by exercise. The BIGGEST change is
» that my scalp doesn't itch; this is actually a huge relief. The itchiness
» of my scalp before was beginning to make me go batty.
»
» NOTE: I won't post unless there are changes worth noting either in terms
» of results or physical effects.
Why do you think your scalp was itching so badly?
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Goingallout
14.03.2008, 03:01
(edited by Goingallout, 14.03.2008, 03:08)
@ dave21
|
1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results |
» » » I am going to start a log of my results on the following regime which
» I
» » am
» » » in the process of starting up. But first I have some questions that
» » are
» » » asked in the parantheses below:
» » »
» » » 0.5 Dutasteride daily
» » » Rogaine Foam 2x daily (should I only apply it to the crown and vertex
» » or
» » » also to my hairline)?
» » » Nizoral 2% cream (how often do people suggest?)
» » » 1g Lysine daily
» » » 2,000 mcg Biotin daily
» » » 4 g daily MSM
» » » 10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of growth
» » » hormone, especially in those who exercise)
» » » Multivitamin
» » »
» » » Any thoughts?
» »
» »
» » 1st week: No visible results (not that I was expecting any). But
» there
» » have been changes. It should be noted that during the first week I
» wasn't
» » using Rogaine or Nizoral cream (but did use 1% Nizoral shampoo twice)
» and
» » I started Rogaine last night. Firstly, on Dutas, my libido took a bit
» of
» » a nosedive. I had sex two days ago with a girlfriend and was able to
» » function for the first go-around, though my desire's a bit curbed. I
» think
» » I would have been able to bounce back quicker for a second go were I
» not
» » taking Dutasteride. There have been some mood shifts and near headaches
» » which I seem to be able to head off by exercise. The BIGGEST change is
» » that my scalp doesn't itch; this is actually a huge relief. The
» itchiness
» » of my scalp before was beginning to make me go batty.
» »
» » NOTE: I won't post unless there are changes worth noting either in
» terms
» » of results or physical effects.
»
»
»
»
» Why do you think your scalp was itching so badly?
I can't be entirely sure, but it was especially focused in areas of recent hair loss. It goes away for a bit when I use Nizoral shampoo. It went away when I exercised more and used the L-Arginine which lowers blood pressure and is reputed to induce the release of HGH. I've noticed that there are many reports of itchy scalp by people who are losing their hair. It seems to me there must be a tie between DHT, reduced blood flow, and hair loss. This is speculation, but it would explain the things that I've experienced and what so many others have. Certainly, there must be a tie to DHT, given what's happened with me on Dutas. Also,I've seen doctors websites suggest there is no link at all, and that just doesn't fit the heavy anecdotal evidence I've seen to the contrary.
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brm
his room,
14.03.2008, 12:51
@ Goingallout
|
1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results |
I don't believe 2mg of biotin is enough. Rather take 5.
10g of arginine? Where the hell do you buy it? How many intakes a day: 2 (x5g)?
You should not risk it with a dut a day. I guess you're young.
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Goingallout
14.03.2008, 14:54
@ brm
|
1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results |
» I don't believe 2mg of biotin is enough. Rather take 5.
» 10g of arginine? Where the hell do you buy it? How many intakes a day: 2
» (x5g)?
» You should not risk it with a dut a day. I guess you're young.
Okay, I'll up the biotin.
I take the 10 g L-Arginine before I go to bed if I haven't eaten anything for more than 2 hours. I only do it days when I've worked out. I know it's in dispute, but there is some talk that this causes the body to secrete more growth hormone. My experience is that I look younger, feel healthier, and sleep better when I do this and people commented that I look better; for me, there seems to be something really valid to it. And the first time I tried it, I woke up with absolutely zero scalp itch which made me think something good was going on for my hair; that was dramatic and unexpected. It is said to work only for folks through their mid-40s at latest up to 50. I buy it through a website for supplements (iherb, in my case) and get it in powder form to mix in water. It tastes absolutely gruesome, so one must hold one's nose.
A Dut a day is dangerous? I assume you mean for libido. Well, desire has been curbed somewhat. But not just for hair, I take L-Tyrosine, Choline, and Fish Oil and these are said to help. And I'll pop 3 grams of L-Arginine before getting to it. I don't have problems, unless I have been starving myself. But exercise and these supplements may be key. One thing is clear: libido and performance in that area is as much a brain chemistry issue as what's going on down below. I think that's why Tyrosine and Choline help.
I am 43.
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brm
his room,
15.03.2008, 00:52
@ Goingallout
|
1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results |
What's the science behind choline and tyrosine, sexwise? Since I've been taking 2.5mg Finasteride a day, my libido has been impaired. Less desire, medium to weak erections, morning woods all gone... What would you advise me? How long have you been on dut?
As to arginine, I used to take 2- 4 g a day some years ago along with ornithin and lysin. I found all those completely worthless. Not to mention gastric problems since they should rather be taken on an empty stomach (not 2 but a minimum 3 hours after dinner). Have you ever tried DHEA? Melatonin?
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Goingallout
15.03.2008, 03:17
(edited by Goingallout, 15.03.2008, 03:27)
@ brm
|
1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results |
» What's the science behind choline and tyrosine, sexwise? Since I've been
» taking 2.5mg Finasteride a day, my libido has been impaired. Less desire,
» medium to weak erections, morning woods all gone... What would you advise
» me? How long have you been on dut?
» As to arginine, I used to take 2- 4 g a day some years ago along with
» ornithin and lysin. I found all those completely worthless. Not to mention
» gastric problems since they should rather be taken on an empty stomach (not
» 2 but a minimum 3 hours after dinner). Have you ever tried DHEA?
» Melatonin?
I don't claim to have all the answers; I just know what works for me. I take L-Tyrosine the first thing upon waking up in the morning on an empty stomach and with water. It helps me keep mental focus and gives me energy, and this is why I was taking it. I noticed it also helped my libido and then I read that it's thought to have this effect. Just google tyrosine and libido and you'll find some articles. Don't take it with food or any other vitamins or amino acids or anything other than water, and be without food for a half hour at least. Don't take more than 1g a day and don't take it at night. I've read similar things about choline and its effect on libido/performance. I take it daily.
http://www.alternativedr.com/tyrosine1.htm
L-Arginine I use in one of two ways: for the HGH "pump" I told you about above, in 10g quantities taken on an empty stomach (2 hours after eating or drinking anything other than water has worked for me). And I take it about an hour before I anticipate sleeping with a woman. It is supposed to release or make available nitric oxide, a key to the proper functioning of an erection. It seems to work well in 2-3 gram quantities for this purpose for me.
Testosterone is key too especially for having desire, and for enhancing that I will take Tribulus Terrestris for a day or two now and then. It is supposed to enhance testosterone levels.
The final thing for me has just to make sure I don't sleep with a woman without having eaten recently or reasonably well in a day. This seems funny, but I traced mediocre performance in two cases to the simple fact that I hadn't recharged my batteries with food. It is also best for me not to eat a bunch right beforehand.
I haven't tried the things you mentioned for this purpose or needed to do so. From what I know melatonin would have a dampening, not enriching, effect on libido. I have used Levitra as a hedge against deflation more than anything, but I find Arginine which supports the same basic nitric oxide building process works as well for me. Once in awhile I use both, when I really want to be sure.
Read this:
http://intelegen.com/nutrients/enhancing_sexual_libido_performance.htm
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Bryan
16.03.2008, 11:17
@ Goingallout
|
1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results |
» I don't claim to have all the answers; I just know what works for me. I
» take L-Tyrosine the first thing upon waking up in the morning on an empty
» stomach and with water. It helps me keep mental focus and gives me energy,
» and this is why I was taking it. I noticed it also helped my libido and
» then I read that it's thought to have this effect. Just google tyrosine
» and libido and you'll find some articles. Don't take it with food or any
» other vitamins or amino acids or anything other than water, and be without
» food for a half hour at least.
No no no! The conversion of tyrosine and phenylalinine to the stimulating neurotransmitters requires vitamin B6 (pyridoxine) and vitamin C, so you want to take a morning tyrosine supplement along with those two vitamins. I'm not talking megadoses here, just a reasonable supplement of both vitamins.
You can read most any material about the use of phenylalinine and/or tyrosine for that purpose, and see the importance of using the co-factors B6 and C with them. For example, check Pearson & Shaw's "Life Extension" books for lots of info on that.
.
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Goingallout
16.03.2008, 13:19
@ Bryan
|
1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results |
» » I don't claim to have all the answers; I just know what works for me. I
» » take L-Tyrosine the first thing upon waking up in the morning on an
» empty
» » stomach and with water. It helps me keep mental focus and gives me
» energy,
» » and this is why I was taking it. I noticed it also helped my libido and
» » then I read that it's thought to have this effect. Just google tyrosine
» » and libido and you'll find some articles. Don't take it with food or
» any
» » other vitamins or amino acids or anything other than water, and be
» without
» » food for a half hour at least.
»
» No no no! The conversion of tyrosine and phenylalinine to the stimulating
» neurotransmitters requires vitamin B6 (pyridoxine) and vitamin C, so you
» want to take a morning tyrosine supplement along with those two vitamins.
» I'm not talking megadoses here, just a reasonable supplement of both
» vitamins.
»
» You can read most any material about the use of phenylalinine and/or
» tyrosine for that purpose, and see the importance of using the co-factors
» B6 and C with them. For example, check Pearson & Shaw's "Life Extension"
» books for lots of info on that.
»
» .
That makes sense. Anyway, I take a multivitamin that includes those things and I take it not so long after taking the Tyrosine, so I was unintentionally taking what you suggest. I suppose it would probably work even better if I took the vitamins at the same time. The point of taking the Tyrosine alone is not to take it at the same time as another amino acid or other foods, as amino acids compete across the blood-brain barrier. I doubt vitamins do. This is for the focus/energy purposes that I mainly take Tyrosine for.
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Bryan
18.03.2008, 13:17
@ Goingallout
|
1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results |
There are a couple of other issues here, too, which you should be aware of:
1) The use of phenylalanine/tyrosine for this purpose _may_ be associated with increases in blood pressure, although I believe Pearson & Shaw say that phenylalanine is more likely to do that than tyrosine. Be sure to keep an eye on your blood pressure.
2) I had a couple of friends start using tyrosine that way in the past, and they both reported that after using it for a while every morning, it eventually got to where the the effect seemed to wear off. I suggest that you use the stuff intermittently, so as not to develop a kind of "tolerance" to it.
.
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HanginInThere
Hair loss University,
20.03.2008, 12:36
@ Goingallout
|
1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results |
I experimented for 20 yrs buying individual vitamins and minerals you name it, if it said it helps hair growth, i bought it, I bet i was taking 20 bottles of pills and it was not cheap
I found that Ultra Hair by Natures Plus, was more effective than all of them combined. However it is not too expensive. Most of us on the natural board take
Maxi Hair by Country Life.............http://www.vitacost.com/Country-Life-Maxi-Hair-Maximized
I also found that timed released biotin, and yes 2000mcg is enough, is important. If it is not timed released, I found that it was almost ineffective, not sure why but my trial and error found this to be true. I found it near impossible to find biotin timed released, individually. However the Maxi hair and ultra hair have it inside timed release
also i supplement it with a good mineral supplement
I do not recommend nizoral shampoo, i found it way too harsh it left my hair so g
dry . it also has hydrochloric acid in it. The cream 2 percent is much more effective. and it stays on your head for hours as opposed to minutes with the shampoo
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Hangin Regimen...........
Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day
DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg |
Goingallout
21.03.2008, 11:54
@ Bryan
|
1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results |
» There are a couple of other issues here, too, which you should be aware
» of:
»
» 1) The use of phenylalanine/tyrosine for this purpose _may_ be associated
» with increases in blood pressure, although I believe Pearson & Shaw say
» that phenylalanine is more likely to do that than tyrosine. Be sure to
» keep an eye on your blood pressure.
»
» 2) I had a couple of friends start using tyrosine that way in the past,
» and they both reported that after using it for a while every morning, it
» eventually got to where the the effect seemed to wear off. I suggest that
» you use the stuff intermittently, so as not to develop a kind of
» "tolerance" to it.
»
» .
Thanks, I really appreciate your reply. I don't actually use Tyrosine for its sexual effects, but what you say is good to know. I use it because it helps my mental focus and energy.
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Goingallout
21.03.2008, 12:09
(edited by Goingallout, 21.03.2008, 13:24)
@ Goingallout
|
3rd week report -- Minor sexual issues, no effects, not staying consistent. |
» I am going to start a log of my results on the following regime which I am
» in the process of starting up. But first I have some questions that are
» asked in the parantheses below:
»
» 0.5 Dutasteride daily
» Rogaine Foam 2x daily (should I only apply it to the crown and vertex or
» also to my hairline)?
» Nizoral 2% cream (how often do people suggest?)
» 1g Lysine daily
» 2,000 mcg Biotin daily
» 4 g daily MSM
» 10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of growth
» hormone, especially in those who exercise)
» Multivitamin
»
» Any thoughts?
3rd week
Went traveling this week and forgot some of my stuff -- i.e. Rogaine and MSM. So I am being inconsistent and need to stop that. But I was consistent with the dutasteride, except didn't take it one day: I had serious fog brain one day and began to think that there is no way I could keep taking dutasteride every day if it meant having this effect. But I skipped a day and decided that my brain fog may have been somewhat owing to a stressful day and being tired.
I had sex on two different nights while traveling and didn't have any particular sexual problems. In the first instance, she had to leave early and so going for round two wasn't a possibility even, but I didn't feel like I could have done it. In the second instance, the next night, she stayed with me for awhile and I was able to perform a second time that night in terms of erection, but had nearly no ejaculate. Overall, I feel like the immediate dampening of my libido that occurred when I started dut. has itself diminished.
NO VISIBLE RESULTS or hair effects. I still don't have the scalp itch I had before taking the dut.
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vivace67
Canada,
23.03.2008, 10:39
@ HanginInThere
|
Hangin': so you're saying Ultra Hair is better than Maxi Hair? |
»
» I found that Ultra Hair by Natures Plus, was more effective than all of
» them combined. However it is not too expensive. Most of us on the natural
» board take
» Maxi Hair by Country
» Life.............http://www.vitacost.com/Country-Life-Maxi-Hair-Maximized
»
»
I wish you would have told me that before i bought Maxi Hair...the cost of the item is not an issue for me... so, do you recommend Ultra Hair as a better solution? Please advice..thanks.
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Hair Regime
Propecia 1mg (daily)
5% Minoxidal (twice daily)
Hair-Max (2pills/day)
Saw Palmetto (320mg) & Pygeum Extract (daily)
Nettle Herb 870mg (daily)
HairMax Laser Comb (use 3 times/week)
Nizoral Shampoo (about 3 times a week) |
vivace67
Canada,
23.03.2008, 11:06
@ Goingallout
|
3rd week report -- Minor sexual issues, no effects, not staying consistent. |
»
» NO VISIBLE RESULTS or hair effects. I still don't have the scalp itch I
» had before taking the dut.
I started taking Propecia about 7years ago and it literally brought back hair that i lost over the previous 2 years...truly amazing results...i still take it now, but i'm certain this stuff effects one's libdo, as you're seeing... be patient with Dutasteride - i'm sure you'll see very good results..
by the way, where did you pick up the nizoral cream???
PS. i highly recommend the laser comb...that also works incredibly well...
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Hair Regime
Propecia 1mg (daily)
5% Minoxidal (twice daily)
Hair-Max (2pills/day)
Saw Palmetto (320mg) & Pygeum Extract (daily)
Nettle Herb 870mg (daily)
HairMax Laser Comb (use 3 times/week)
Nizoral Shampoo (about 3 times a week) |
Goingallout
23.03.2008, 13:26
@ vivace67
|
3rd week report -- Minor sexual issues, no effects, not staying consistent. |
» »
» » NO VISIBLE RESULTS or hair effects. I still don't have the scalp itch I
» » had before taking the dut.
»
» I started taking Propecia about 7years ago and it literally brought back
» hair that i lost over the previous 2 years...truly amazing results...i
» still take it now, but i'm certain this stuff effects one's libdo, as
» you're seeing... be patient with Dutasteride - i'm sure you'll see very
» good results..
»
» by the way, where did you pick up the nizoral cream???
»
»
» PS. i highly recommend the laser comb...that also works incredibly well...
Thanks for your encouragement. Much appreciated. I'll stick with Dutasteride no matter what for between 6 and 12 months. I just need to be more consistent with all the other stuff. I've noticed a lot of people expect immediate results with what they use, but hair growth and results take a fair amount of time. I am tracking my progress on this site for myself and for others to see. People need to be realistic. At 3 weeks, I see no particular results, but frankly I don't look all that closely because I don't think it's worth it to look too closely for at least a couple or three months into a regime.
I get the Nizoral cream at inhousepharmacy.com, the same place where I get generic Dutasteride. Delivery to the US (I imagine Canada too) takes about 10 days. I've ordered from them twice and it's gone smoothly, no problems at all. I was a bit nervous when first ordering.
I don't get how the laser comb is supposed to work. To be honest, I've been skeptical of that. Can you tell me more? What brand do you have?
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Goingallout
23.03.2008, 13:39
@ HanginInThere
|
1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results |
» I experimented for 20 yrs buying individual vitamins and minerals you name
» it, if it said it helps hair growth, i bought it, I bet i was taking 20
» bottles of pills and it was not cheap
»
» I found that Ultra Hair by Natures Plus, was more effective than all of
» them combined. However it is not too expensive. Most of us on the natural
» board take
» Maxi Hair by Country
» Life.............http://www.vitacost.com/Country-Life-Maxi-Hair-Maximized
»
» I also found that timed released biotin, and yes 2000mcg is enough, is
» important. If it is not timed released, I found that it was almost
» ineffective, not sure why but my trial and error found this to be true. I
» found it near impossible to find biotin timed released, individually.
» However the Maxi hair and ultra hair have it inside timed release
»
» also i supplement it with a good mineral supplement
»
» I do not recommend nizoral shampoo, i found it way too harsh it left my
» hair so g
» dry . it also has hydrochloric acid in it. The cream 2 percent is much
» more effective. and it stays on your head for hours as opposed to minutes
» with the shampoo
Thanks for a great post. I have the same question Vivace67 has. Ultimately, it looks like you are recommending Ultra Hair as the absolute best product, but I guess for cost reasons you are saying to just use Maxi Hair. Could you clarify which one you think is better and which one you'd recommend if cost is not an issue?
I stopped the Nizoral shampoo as of two days ago when I got my first shipment of Nizoral cream. I don't plan on using again, though I didn't experience hair loss as long as I only used it twice a week.
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HanginInThere
Hair loss University,
23.03.2008, 19:01
(edited by HanginInThere, 23.03.2008, 19:22)
@ vivace67
|
Hangin': so you're saying Ultra Hair is better than Maxi Hair? |
see my below comparison chart
I might just now change to think that the Maxi Hair is better than the Ultra Hair after looking at the ingredients list
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Hangin Regimen...........
Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day
DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg |
HanginInThere
Hair loss University,
23.03.2008, 19:05
@ Goingallout
|
1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results |
» » I experimented for 20 yrs buying individual vitamins and minerals you
» name
» » it, if it said it helps hair growth, i bought it, I bet i was taking 20
» » bottles of pills and it was not cheap
» »
» » I found that Ultra Hair by Natures Plus, was more effective than all of
» » them combined. However it is not too expensive. Most of us on the
» natural
» » board take
» » Maxi Hair by Country
» »
» Life.............http://www.vitacost.com/Country-Life-Maxi-Hair-Maximized
» »
» » I also found that timed released biotin, and yes 2000mcg is enough, is
» » important. If it is not timed released, I found that it was almost
» » ineffective, not sure why but my trial and error found this to be true.
» I
» » found it near impossible to find biotin timed released, individually.
» » However the Maxi hair and ultra hair have it inside timed release
» »
» » also i supplement it with a good mineral supplement
» »
» » I do not recommend nizoral shampoo, i found it way too harsh it left my
» » hair so g
» » dry . it also has hydrochloric acid in it. The cream 2 percent is much
» » more effective. and it stays on your head for hours as opposed to
» minutes
» » with the shampoo
»
» Thanks for a great post. I have the same question Vivace67 has.
» Ultimately, it looks like you are recommending Ultra Hair as the absolute
» best product, but I guess for cost reasons you are saying to just use Maxi
» Hair. Could you clarify which one you think is better and which one you'd
» recommend if cost is not an issue?
»
» I stopped the Nizoral shampoo as of two days ago when I got my first
» shipment of Nizoral cream. I don't plan on using again, though I didn't
» experience hair loss as long as I only used it twice a week.
I am not saying the nizoral shampoo does not work, lots of studies say it does, but I found it extremely harsh, and if the active ingredient is Ketoconazole, and that is in the niz cream, I leave the cream on for hours as compared to a minute or so with the shampoo. Be prepared for a shed though, that happened to me with the niz cream, and it was not fun, for a few months in fact i stopped using it, but the hair grew back healthier and more strong but it took a while, I only used it two months . I may start on it again
the niz cream in the japanese study seems to have worked very well with the younger guys and not that well with the older guys, that is either a plus or a minus depending on your age. As with any regimen if you have a reaction to it or side effects , i would evaluate your situation at that point. As with any regimen also there are no guarantees. But there seems to be something with ketoconazole that is beneficial to a lot of guys hair loss.
Yes I do believe the Ultra hair seems to be of higher quality although I have no proof of this, You might want to get a list of the ingredients of the ultra hair and maxi hair and post it here so we can compare the amounts also. It is just my general opinion.
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Hangin Regimen...........
Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day
DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg |
HanginInThere
Hair loss University,
23.03.2008, 19:19
@ vivace67
|
Here is a side by side comparison |
Actually after looking at this you may conclude that the MAXI hair is better than the ultra hair, you be the judge
----------------------------------------------
ULTRA HAIR BY NATURES PLUS
----------------------------------------------
Serving Size: 2 Tablets
Servings Per Container: 30
Vitamin A (as beta carotene) 10,000I.U. 200%
Vitamin B-2 (as riboflavin) 100mg 5,882%
Folate (as folic acid) 400mcg 100%
Zinc (as amino acid chelate) 5mg 33%
Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid) 500mg 833%
Niacin (as niacinamide) 30mg 150%
Biotin 2,000mcg 667%
Vitamin B-1 (as thiamine HCL) 30mg 2000%
Vitamin B-6 (as pyridoxine HCL) 10mg 500%
Pantothenic Acid (as calcium pantothenate) 50mg 500%
Choline (as bitartrate) 100mg **
Folligen Complex- Standardized Extracts of Ginko Biloba Leaf and Saw Palmetto Berry 100mg **
Glucosamine Sulfate (as Amino mono saccharide) 50mg **
Inositol 200mg **
PABA (para-aminobenzoic acid) 100mg **
MSM (Methyl sulfonyl methane) 500mg **
L-Cysteine (free form amino acid) 100mg **
-------------------------------------------
MAXI HAIR BY COUNTRY LIFE
Serving Size (2 Tablets):
---------------------------------------
Servings Per Container: 45
Vitamin A 5000IU 100%
Vitamin C 200mg 333%
Vitamin E 50IU 167%
Thiamin 30mg 2000%
Riboflavin 50mg 2941%
Niacin 50mg 250%
Vitamin B-6 50mg 2500%
Folic Acid 400mcg 100%
Vitamin B-12 50mcg 833%
d-Biotin 2000mcg 667%
Pantothenic Acid 50mg 500%
Calcium 200mg 20%
Iodine 225mcg 150%
Zinc 15mg 100%
Selenium 50mcg 71%
Copper 1mg 50%
MSM 600mg
L-Methionine 250mg
Canola Fatty Acid Complex 200mg
Horsetail Extract 100mg
L-Cysteine 100mg
Inositol 50mg
Paba 50mg
Choline 23mg
Other Ingredients:
Cellulose, stearic acid, ligosaccharides, magnesium stearate, cellulose & glycerin coating, silica, calcium silicate, natural vanilla.
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Hangin Regimen...........
Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day
DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg |
HanginInThere
Hair loss University,
23.03.2008, 20:46
@ vivace67
|
More Detailed side by side |
tried to post as a side by side but it does not work this thing jams all the spaces together , oh well
HanginInThere is located in HAIR LOSS UNIVERSITY and he is available to meet: NO ---
Hangin Regimen...........
Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day
DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg |
Goingallout
23.03.2008, 23:36
(edited by Goingallout, 23.03.2008, 23:59)
@ Goingallout
|
Another 3rd Week Report: Nizoral Cream Relieves Itch, Hair Growth in Temples? |
» I am going to start a log of my results on the following regime which I am
» in the process of starting up. But first I have some questions that are
» asked in the parantheses below:
»
» 0.5 Dutasteride daily
» Rogaine Foam 2x daily (should I only apply it to the crown and vertex or
» also to my hairline)?
» Nizoral 2% cream (how often do people suggest?)
» 1g Lysine daily
» 2,000 mcg Biotin daily
» 4 g daily MSM
» 10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of growth
» hormone, especially in those who exercise)
» Multivitamin
»
» Any thoughts?
Okay, only two days since my last post. Two things have changed. Firstly, I actually received my order of Nizoral Cream. I thought all my scalp itch was gone, but when I apply the cream it really takes away a slight itch that I still apparently had. Will this help? Something tells me it's a good sign.
I have seen some thin, light-colored hairs growing in my temple region. Signs of some Dutasteride-spurred regrowth? It does certainly seem that these hairs would not be there without some element of my regime making it so. I am resisting spending too much time scanning my scalp for new growth. I'll be convinced if things are significantly different 6 months or after.
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HanginInThere
Hair loss University,
24.03.2008, 00:30
@ Goingallout
|
Another 3rd Week Report: Nizoral Cream Relieves Itch, Hair Growth in Temples? |
» » I am going to start a log of my results on the following regime which I
» am
» » in the process of starting up. But first I have some questions that
» are
» » asked in the parantheses below:
» »
» » 0.5 Dutasteride daily
» » Rogaine Foam 2x daily (should I only apply it to the crown and vertex
» or
» » also to my hairline)?
» » Nizoral 2% cream (how often do people suggest?)
» » 1g Lysine daily
» » 2,000 mcg Biotin daily
» » 4 g daily MSM
» » 10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of growth
» » hormone, especially in those who exercise)
» » Multivitamin
» »
» » Any thoughts?
»
» Okay, only two days since my last post. Two things have changed. Firstly,
» I actually received my order of Nizoral Cream. I thought all my scalp itch
» was gone, but when I apply the cream it really takes away a slight itch
» that I still apparently had. Will this help? Something tells me it's a
» good sign.
»
» I have seen some thin, light-colored hairs growing in my temple region.
» Signs of some Dutasteride-spurred regrowth? It does certainly seem that
» these hairs would not be there without some element of my regime making it
» so. I am resisting spending too much time scanning my scalp for new growth.
» I'll be convinced if things are significantly different 6 months or after.
not sure about combining the niz cream with dut, you are taking a lot of stuff that might conflict
i had a pretty noticeable shed starting about 6 wks with the niz cream, so be prepared for that
HanginInThere is located in HAIR LOSS UNIVERSITY and he is available to meet: NO ---
Hangin Regimen...........
Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day
DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg |
Goingallout
24.03.2008, 15:23
@ HanginInThere
|
Another 3rd Week Report: Nizoral Cream Relieves Itch, Hair Growth in Temples? |
» » » I am going to start a log of my results on the following regime which
» I
» » am
» » » in the process of starting up. But first I have some questions that
» » are
» » » asked in the parantheses below:
» » »
» » » 0.5 Dutasteride daily
» » » Rogaine Foam 2x daily (should I only apply it to the crown and vertex
» » or
» » » also to my hairline)?
» » » Nizoral 2% cream (how often do people suggest?)
» » » 1g Lysine daily
» » » 2,000 mcg Biotin daily
» » » 4 g daily MSM
» » » 10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of growth
» » » hormone, especially in those who exercise)
» » » Multivitamin
» » »
» » » Any thoughts?
» »
» » Okay, only two days since my last post. Two things have changed.
» Firstly,
» » I actually received my order of Nizoral Cream. I thought all my scalp
» itch
» » was gone, but when I apply the cream it really takes away a slight itch
» » that I still apparently had. Will this help? Something tells me it's a
» » good sign.
» »
» » I have seen some thin, light-colored hairs growing in my temple region.
» » Signs of some Dutasteride-spurred regrowth? It does certainly seem that
» » these hairs would not be there without some element of my regime making
» it
» » so. I am resisting spending too much time scanning my scalp for new
» growth.
» » I'll be convinced if things are significantly different 6 months or
» after.
»
» not sure about combining the niz cream with dut, you are taking a lot of
» stuff that might conflict
» i had a pretty noticeable shed starting about 6 wks with the niz cream, so
» be prepared for that
Thanks, Hangin'. I appreciate your message. I get the notion that maybe some of these things are not good to mix, perhaps for reasons unknown. But wouldn't that be the same for Nizoral cream and SP/Beta as well -- and that seems to work for you?
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HanginInThere
Hair loss University,
24.03.2008, 16:33
@ Goingallout
|
Another 3rd Week Report: Nizoral Cream Relieves Itch, Hair Growth in Temples? |
» » » » I am going to start a log of my results on the following regime
» which
» » I
» » » am
» » » » in the process of starting up. But first I have some questions
» that
» » » are
» » » » asked in the parantheses below:
» » » »
» » » » 0.5 Dutasteride daily
» » » » Rogaine Foam 2x daily (should I only apply it to the crown and
» vertex
» » » or
» » » » also to my hairline)?
» » » » Nizoral 2% cream (how often do people suggest?)
» » » » 1g Lysine daily
» » » » 2,000 mcg Biotin daily
» » » » 4 g daily MSM
» » » » 10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of growth
» » » » hormone, especially in those who exercise)
» » » » Multivitamin
» » » »
» » » » Any thoughts?
» » »
» » » Okay, only two days since my last post. Two things have changed.
» » Firstly,
» » » I actually received my order of Nizoral Cream. I thought all my scalp
» » itch
» » » was gone, but when I apply the cream it really takes away a slight
» itch
» » » that I still apparently had. Will this help? Something tells me it's
» a
» » » good sign.
» » »
» » » I have seen some thin, light-colored hairs growing in my temple
» region.
» » » Signs of some Dutasteride-spurred regrowth? It does certainly seem
» that
» » » these hairs would not be there without some element of my regime
» making
» » it
» » » so. I am resisting spending too much time scanning my scalp for new
» » growth.
» » » I'll be convinced if things are significantly different 6 months or
» » after.
» »
» » not sure about combining the niz cream with dut, you are taking a lot
» of
» » stuff that might conflict
» » i had a pretty noticeable shed starting about 6 wks with the niz cream,
» so
» » be prepared for that
»
» Thanks, Hangin'. I appreciate your message. I get the notion that maybe
» some of these things are not good to mix, perhaps for reasons unknown.
» But wouldn't that be the same for Nizoral cream and SP/Beta as well -- and
» that seems to work for you?
is the DUT a topical or what is that
HanginInThere is located in HAIR LOSS UNIVERSITY and he is available to meet: NO ---
Hangin Regimen...........
Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day
DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg |
Goingallout
24.03.2008, 19:06
@ HanginInThere
|
Another 3rd Week Report: Nizoral Cream Relieves Itch, Hair Growth in Temples? |
» » » » » I am going to start a log of my results on the following regime
» » which
» » » I
» » » » am
» » » » » in the process of starting up. But first I have some questions
» » that
» » » » are
» » » » » asked in the parantheses below:
» » » » »
» » » » » 0.5 Dutasteride daily
» » » » » Rogaine Foam 2x daily (should I only apply it to the crown and
» » vertex
» » » » or
» » » » » also to my hairline)?
» » » » » Nizoral 2% cream (how often do people suggest?)
» » » » » 1g Lysine daily
» » » » » 2,000 mcg Biotin daily
» » » » » 4 g daily MSM
» » » » » 10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of
» growth
» » » » » hormone, especially in those who exercise)
» » » » » Multivitamin
» » » » »
» » » » » Any thoughts?
» » » »
» » » » Okay, only two days since my last post. Two things have changed.
» » » Firstly,
» » » » I actually received my order of Nizoral Cream. I thought all my
» scalp
» » » itch
» » » » was gone, but when I apply the cream it really takes away a slight
» » itch
» » » » that I still apparently had. Will this help? Something tells me
» it's
» » a
» » » » good sign.
» » » »
» » » » I have seen some thin, light-colored hairs growing in my temple
» » region.
» » » » Signs of some Dutasteride-spurred regrowth? It does certainly seem
» » that
» » » » these hairs would not be there without some element of my regime
» » making
» » » it
» » » » so. I am resisting spending too much time scanning my scalp for new
» » » growth.
» » » » I'll be convinced if things are significantly different 6 months or
» » » after.
» » »
» » » not sure about combining the niz cream with dut, you are taking a lot
» » of
» » » stuff that might conflict
» » » i had a pretty noticeable shed starting about 6 wks with the niz
» cream,
» » so
» » » be prepared for that
» »
» » Thanks, Hangin'. I appreciate your message. I get the notion that maybe
» » some of these things are not good to mix, perhaps for reasons unknown.
» » But wouldn't that be the same for Nizoral cream and SP/Beta as well --
» and
» » that seems to work for you?
»
» is the DUT a topical or what is that
Dutasteride: I get it in generic form from Dr. Reddy's (I think it's called). 0.5mg. It's a pill. I could see the viewpoint that two topicals mixing might have cross-purpose effects. But two anti-DHT medications one topical the other a pill, would that?
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HanginInThere
Hair loss University,
24.03.2008, 20:32
@ Goingallout
|
Another 3rd Week Report: Nizoral Cream Relieves Itch, Hair Growth in Temples? |
» » » » » » I am going to start a log of my results on the following regime
» » » which
» » » » I
» » » » » am
» » » » » » in the process of starting up. But first I have some questions
» » » that
» » » » » are
» » » » » » asked in the parantheses below:
» » » » » »
» » » » » » 0.5 Dutasteride daily
» » » » » » Rogaine Foam 2x daily (should I only apply it to the crown and
» » » vertex
» » » » » or
» » » » » » also to my hairline)?
» » » » » » Nizoral 2% cream (how often do people suggest?)
» » » » » » 1g Lysine daily
» » » » » » 2,000 mcg Biotin daily
» » » » » » 4 g daily MSM
» » » » » » 10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of
» » growth
» » » » » » hormone, especially in those who exercise)
» » » » » » Multivitamin
» » » » » »
» » » » » » Any thoughts?
» » » » »
» » » » » Okay, only two days since my last post. Two things have changed.
» » » » Firstly,
» » » » » I actually received my order of Nizoral Cream. I thought all my
» » scalp
» » » » itch
» » » » » was gone, but when I apply the cream it really takes away a
» slight
» » » itch
» » » » » that I still apparently had. Will this help? Something tells me
» » it's
» » » a
» » » » » good sign.
» » » » »
» » » » » I have seen some thin, light-colored hairs growing in my temple
» » » region.
» » » » » Signs of some Dutasteride-spurred regrowth? It does certainly
» seem
» » » that
» » » » » these hairs would not be there without some element of my regime
» » » making
» » » » it
» » » » » so. I am resisting spending too much time scanning my scalp for
» new
» » » » growth.
» » » » » I'll be convinced if things are significantly different 6 months
» or
» » » » after.
» » » »
» » » » not sure about combining the niz cream with dut, you are taking a
» lot
» » » of
» » » » stuff that might conflict
» » » » i had a pretty noticeable shed starting about 6 wks with the niz
» » cream,
» » » so
» » » » be prepared for that
» » »
» » » Thanks, Hangin'. I appreciate your message. I get the notion that
» maybe
» » » some of these things are not good to mix, perhaps for reasons unknown.
»
» » » But wouldn't that be the same for Nizoral cream and SP/Beta as well
» --
» » and
» » » that seems to work for you?
» »
» » is the DUT a topical or what is that
»
»
» Dutasteride: I get it in generic form from Dr. Reddy's (I think it's
» called). 0.5mg. It's a pill. I could see the viewpoint that two topicals
» mixing might have cross-purpose effects. But two anti-DHT medications one
» topical the other a pill, would that?
that i am not sure, but since the dut has a bad reputation of side effects and it is a drug, and the natural dht blockers well are you taking any naturals saw palmetto etc?
HanginInThere is located in HAIR LOSS UNIVERSITY and he is available to meet: NO ---
Hangin Regimen...........
Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day
DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg |
Goingallout
24.03.2008, 22:47
@ HanginInThere
|
Another 3rd Week Report: Nizoral Cream Relieves Itch, Hair Growth in Temples? |
» » » » » » » I am going to start a log of my results on the following
» regime
» » » » which
» » » » » I
» » » » » » am
» » » » » » » in the process of starting up. But first I have some
» questions
» » » » that
» » » » » » are
» » » » » » » asked in the parantheses below:
» » » » » » »
» » » » » » » 0.5 Dutasteride daily
» » » » » » » Rogaine Foam 2x daily (should I only apply it to the crown
» and
» » » » vertex
» » » » » » or
» » » » » » » also to my hairline)?
» » » » » » » Nizoral 2% cream (how often do people suggest?)
» » » » » » » 1g Lysine daily
» » » » » » » 2,000 mcg Biotin daily
» » » » » » » 4 g daily MSM
» » » » » » » 10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of
» » » growth
» » » » » » » hormone, especially in those who exercise)
» » » » » » » Multivitamin
» » » » » » »
» » » » » » » Any thoughts?
» » » » » »
» » » » » » Okay, only two days since my last post. Two things have
» changed.
» » » » » Firstly,
» » » » » » I actually received my order of Nizoral Cream. I thought all my
» » » scalp
» » » » » itch
» » » » » » was gone, but when I apply the cream it really takes away a
» » slight
» » » » itch
» » » » » » that I still apparently had. Will this help? Something tells
» me
» » » it's
» » » » a
» » » » » » good sign.
» » » » » »
» » » » » » I have seen some thin, light-colored hairs growing in my temple
» » » » region.
» » » » » » Signs of some Dutasteride-spurred regrowth? It does certainly
» » seem
» » » » that
» » » » » » these hairs would not be there without some element of my
» regime
» » » » making
» » » » » it
» » » » » » so. I am resisting spending too much time scanning my scalp for
» » new
» » » » » growth.
» » » » » » I'll be convinced if things are significantly different 6
» months
» » or
» » » » » after.
» » » » »
» » » » » not sure about combining the niz cream with dut, you are taking a
» » lot
» » » » of
» » » » » stuff that might conflict
» » » » » i had a pretty noticeable shed starting about 6 wks with the niz
» » » cream,
» » » » so
» » » » » be prepared for that
» » » »
» » » » Thanks, Hangin'. I appreciate your message. I get the notion that
» » maybe
» » » » some of these things are not good to mix, perhaps for reasons
» unknown.
» »
» » » » But wouldn't that be the same for Nizoral cream and SP/Beta as well
» » --
» » » and
» » » » that seems to work for you?
» » »
» » » is the DUT a topical or what is that
» »
» »
» » Dutasteride: I get it in generic form from Dr. Reddy's (I think it's
» » called). 0.5mg. It's a pill. I could see the viewpoint that two
» topicals
» » mixing might have cross-purpose effects. But two anti-DHT medications
» one
» » topical the other a pill, would that?
»
» that i am not sure, but since the dut has a bad reputation of side effects
» and it is a drug, and the natural dht blockers well are you taking any
» naturals saw palmetto etc?
I was taking SP intermittently. My hair loss has slowed for a few years while I have taken various vitamins and things like SP (very little hair in the sink), but with little regrowth was still proceeding steadily. I decided to put together this regime to try to regrow hair in the way you discussed it in your post.
The side effects are there for me, but I'll deal with them for awhile and then cycle of Dut for awhile. Also, they haven't killed my libido just slowed it down a bit.
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HanginInThere
Hair loss University,
24.03.2008, 23:46
@ Goingallout
|
Another 3rd Week Report: Nizoral Cream Relieves Itch, Hair Growth in Temples? |
most guys including myself do not experience decrease libido on the naturals, it happens but its rare, its not like propecia
propecia decreases SERUM dht levels, blood levels of dht , not a good thing, you need dht in your blood
SP has been shown to NOt Decrease blood levels of dht...................
are you taking super hair vitamin or any other vitamin type mineral combo
u might list your regimen in your signature
makes it easier to give advice instead of guys having to always ask for it
thats what i do
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Hangin Regimen...........
Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day
DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg |
Goingallout
25.03.2008, 10:04
@ HanginInThere
|
Another 3rd Week Report: Nizoral Cream Relieves Itch, Hair Growth in Temples? |
» most guys including myself do not experience decrease libido on the
» naturals, it happens but its rare, its not like propecia
»
» propecia decreases SERUM dht levels, blood levels of dht , not a good
» thing, you need dht in your blood
» SP has been shown to NOt Decrease blood levels of dht...................
»
» are you taking super hair vitamin or any other vitamin type mineral combo
» u might list your regimen in your signature
» makes it easier to give advice instead of guys having to always ask for
» it
»
» thats what i do
What I've found from research is that serum DHT is known to be necessary for things such as 1) proper development of the penis and gonads during and before puberty (not a problem for me 2) a deep voice (not a problem) 3) optimal libido (I am willing to take the hit to my libido for awhile, and actually this is probably a good thing for me since my appetite for women gets me into trouble sometimes -- i.e. oversexed with women I am not long-term attracted to, etc. Some people suggest DHT is potentially important for things like our heart muscle and perhaps for our brain. While these things are all important, some are unproven and others I think will not be of concern for short periods of time. In other words, I am willing to take the risk.
For these reasons, I decided to take 0.5 mg of Dutasteride instead of 2.5mg (not to mention cost) -- because that way there will still be some serum DHT.
I am planning to cycle on and off this stuff.
0.5mg Dutasteride daily
Rogaine Foam 2x daily
Nizoral 2% cream
1g Lysine daily
2,000 mcg Biotin daily
4 g daily MSM
10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of growth hormone, especially in those who exercise)
Maxi Hair
Multivitamin
Goingallout is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO |
Goingallout
27.03.2008, 13:56
@ Goingallout
|
The 4th week Update |
» I am going to start a log of my results on the following regime which I am
» in the process of starting up. But first I have some questions that are
» asked in the parantheses below:
»
» 0.5 Dutasteride daily
» Rogaine Foam 2x daily (should I only apply it to the crown and vertex or
» also to my hairline)?
» Nizoral 2% cream (how often do people suggest?)
» 1g Lysine daily
» 2,000 mcg Biotin daily
» 4 g daily MSM
» 10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of growth
» hormone, especially in those who exercise)
» Multivitamin
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» Any thoughts?
I started this regime on March 4th, but started with Dut, and hadn't received shipment until about a week ago on the Niz cream. I changed out the Rogaine foam for Minoxidil 5% (from Costco) because people said the foam seemed to cause their hair to fall out. So I guess could say this should count as my first week on this full regime, but is my fourth week on Dut.
0.5mg Dutasteride daily
Rogaine Foam 2x daily
Nizoral 2% cream usually once daily, sometimes twice
Nizoral 1% shampoo twice a week
1g Lysine daily
1 tablet of Maxi Hair
3 g daily MSM
10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of growth hormone, especially in those who exercise)
Multivitamin
6-8 grams of Fish Oil
RESULTS/EFFECTS: PLUS: Hair starting to come in on the right temple, probably the left one too (I haven't looked that closely). I don't see any particular effect on my hairline further up, but I am n |
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