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IHTI Newsletter, Summer 2008 - The Cole Hair Transplant Group
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jotronic   14.03.2008, 19:52	Dr. Hasson/ NicNitro/ 10,407 Grafts/ 2 Sessions/ 1 Year/ Strip (Hair Transplant) Post reply
	Most of your know "Nicnitro" from the various boards and his transformation has been well documented. This week, Nic returned to our clinic as he promised for a video and photo follow-up visit. For those that may not be aware, Nicnitro was a CLASSIC & TRUE NW5 that received 6279 grafts in one session with Dr. Hasson. He returned to have a second session of 4128 grafts. Below are the photos we took and we have video that will be up on Monday morning, one with a comb-through and a second video that is his testimonial. --- Joe Tillman aka, Jotronic Hasson & Wong www.hassonandwong.com www.hairtransplanttv.com Joe@HassonandWong.com 1.800.859.2266 The Truth Is In The Results 7917 FU Grafts
piperz 14.03.2008, 20:30 @ jotronic	Dr. Hasson/ NicNitro/ 10,407 Grafts/ 2 Sessions/ 1 Year/ Strip Post reply
	This result is amazing. However it must be pointed out that this guy is a sort of record breaker ( just like Londonlad). He had incredible scalp laxity as the number of grafts extracted clearly show. It is nice to see this drastic change in appearance but it's also a wake up call for guys that have average donor characteristics. The average Joe (no pun intended) can have 4000 grafts extracted via Strip. If you happen to be a genuine NW5 the amount of coverage that you can expect is limited. Said that, Kudos to Dr Hasson. It is by all means a mesmerizing restoration. I just wish everybody had a chance to have this many grafts transplanted on their scalp. Congratulations to the patients and the doctor.
fastforward 14.03.2008, 21:12 @ jotronic	Dr. Hasson/ NicNitro/ 10,407 Grafts/ 2 Sessions/ 1 Year/ Strip Post reply
	All the photos you show are very good but you always say this is not the final result and the patient is returning for more. Why? Are the photos not accurate and showing your patients better than they really are in reality? --- 23 y.o with receeding hairline. Rogain foam. Stopped Propecia because of side effects. Hair transplant or hair system next ?
jotronic   14.03.2008, 21:22 @ fastforward	Dr. Hasson/ NicNitro/ 10,407 Grafts/ 2 Sessions/ 1 Year/ Strip Post reply
	FF, Huh? I'm not sure I follow. This patient did not return for more work. He promised to return one year after his second procedure to allow us to document his results. He wasn't back for more work nor for a consultation for more work. "Are the photos not accurate and showing your patients better than they really are in reality?" Absolutely not. He looks better in person. --- Joe Tillman aka, Jotronic Hasson & Wong www.hassonandwong.com www.hairtransplanttv.com Joe@HassonandWong.com 1.800.859.2266 The Truth Is In The Results 7917 FU Grafts
fastforward 14.03.2008, 21:41 @ jotronic	Dr. Hasson/ NicNitro/ 10,407 Grafts/ 2 Sessions/ 1 Year/ Strip Post reply
	» FF, » » Huh? I'm not sure I follow. This patient did not return for more work. He » promised to return one year after his second procedure to allow us to » document his results. He wasn't back for more work nor for a consultation » for more work. » » "Are the photos not accurate and showing your patients better than they » really are in reality?" » » Absolutely not. He looks better in person. Sorry, I misunderstood. --- 23 y.o with receeding hairline. Rogain foam. Stopped Propecia because of side effects. Hair transplant or hair system next ?
tembo 15.03.2008, 23:25 @ fastforward	Dr. Hasson/ NicNitro/ 10,407 Grafts/ 2 Sessions/ 1 Year/ Strip Post reply
	"He returned to have a second session of 4128 grafts. Below are the photos we took and we have video that will be up on Monday morning, one with a comb-through and a second video that is his testimonial." I think that sentence is confusing as even I though he returned for another HT. Anyway great result here. Jotronic, when the surgeon moves hair to the recipient site, does he/she try to avoid moving white hair? --- http://darkskinlaser.com/surgeonswithtransplants.html http://darkskinlaser.com/BodyHairTransplants.html
marco U.K, 16.03.2008, 18:44 @ jotronic	Dr. Hasson/ NicNitro/ 10,407 Grafts/ 2 Sessions/ 1 Year/ Strip Post reply
	» Most of your know "Nicnitro" from the various boards and his transformation » has been well documented. This week, Nic returned to our clinic as he » promised for a video and photo follow-up visit. » » For those that may not be aware, Nicnitro was a CLASSIC & TRUE NW5 that » received 6279 grafts in one session with Dr. Hasson. » » He returned to have a second session of 4128 grafts. Below are the photos » we took and we have video that will be up on Monday morning, one with a » comb-through and a second video that is his testimonial. Joe, This really need a better detaled explaination. As others have sad 10000 Fu by strip s not only unprecidented but there is no mpression that his donor har "looks" twice as dense as the average. So what does this presumed laxity look lke? Does t not give the mpression of more hair? If he dd not actually have more hair then can everyone get such results wth scalp excersize? f it s just down to laxity then why not just undermne everyone who need a lot of grafts. I think these are justifyable and reasdonable questions to be answered before ths result gets to the top of the hall of fame! As you often say the proof is in the results (and these are of cause exceptional) but we are potential candidates and deserve to work on more than blnd faith.
piperz 16.03.2008, 20:47 @ marco	Dr. Hasson/ NicNitro/ 10,407 Grafts/ 2 Sessions/ 1 Year/ Strip Post reply
	» » Most of your know "Nicnitro" from the various boards and his » transformation » » has been well documented. This week, Nic returned to our clinic as he » » promised for a video and photo follow-up visit. » » » » For those that may not be aware, Nicnitro was a CLASSIC & TRUE NW5 that » » received 6279 grafts in one session with Dr. Hasson. » » » » He returned to have a second session of 4128 grafts. Below are the » photos » » we took and we have video that will be up on Monday morning, one with a » » comb-through and a second video that is his testimonial. » » » Joe, » » This really need a better detaled explaination. As others have sad 10000 » Fu by strip s not only unprecidented but there is no mpression that his » donor har "looks" twice as dense as the average. So what does this » presumed laxity look lke? Does t not give the mpression of more hair? If » he dd not actually have more hair then can everyone get such results wth » scalp excersize? f it s just down to laxity then why not just undermne » everyone who need a lot of grafts. I think these are justifyable and » reasdonable questions to be answered before ths result gets to the top of » the hall of fame! » » As you often say the proof is in the results (and these are of cause » exceptional) but we are potential candidates and deserve to work on more » than blnd faith. Please check your spelling mate. It took me 5 minutes to decipher your post This case is very well documented on their site. On top of that the guy also has a personal blog. One last thought on this one.... 10000 grafts is not unheard of. I think London lad had even more than that. Having said that, these guys had exeptional donor characteristics, make no bones about it. According to Dr Hasson the average number of grafts that can be extracted is 4000 with a single procedure. Anything more than that is down to scalp laxity and hair density.
jotronic   16.03.2008, 23:21 @ marco	Dr. Hasson/ NicNitro/ 10,407 Grafts/ 2 Sessions/ 1 Year/ Strip Post reply
	Apologies if my description was insufficient or confusing. Nicnitro did not have donor density that was twice that of average. It was above average but not that high. He also had a very loose scalp and I believe, if memory serves, he gained some of this laxity from scalp exercises but the other factor that helped was his hair texture. His hair is coarse so he has more coverage, hair for hair, than someone with finer hair that may receive the same number of grafts. As I tell everyone, this result is achieved for Nicnitro, and will not be achieved for you. The number of results shared are to help build a record of consistency, whether it be 10,407 grafts in two or 2750 in one. --- Joe Tillman aka, Jotronic Hasson & Wong www.hassonandwong.com www.hairtransplanttv.com Joe@HassonandWong.com 1.800.859.2266 The Truth Is In The Results 7917 FU Grafts
marco U.K, 17.03.2008, 03:20 @ piperz	Dr. Hasson/ NicNitro/ 10,407 Grafts/ 2 Sessions/ 1 Year/ Strip Post reply
	» Please check your spelling mate. It took me 5 minutes to decipher your » post » Hi PPX, Sorry, there was a double whammy here. I am a (not so) secret dyslexic and although I usually use a spell checker on everything occasionally I forget and the "truth" is outed. Secondly the "i" key on my computer is giving up the ghost which seems to have turned what would have otherwise just been indecipherable into a completely new language . Did you hear about the dyslexic insomniac philosopher. He stayed awake all night wondering if there is a dog.
marco U.K, 17.03.2008, 03:25 @ jotronic	Dr. Hasson/ NicNitro/ 10,407 Grafts/ 2 Sessions/ 1 Year/ Strip Post reply
	Thanks Joe, H&W are able to extract a lot of grafts anyway. When you extract these kind of numbers, does the donor scar remain...reasonable? 'm not sure what reasonable would mean in this context since most of us would sacrifice a perfect line for anything like this level of result. If you could through some light on this, it would be great.
jotronic   18.03.2008, 14:59 @ marco	Dr. Hasson/ NicNitro/ 10,407 Grafts/ 2 Sessions/ 1 Year/ Strip Post reply
	» Thanks Joe, » » H&W are able to extract a lot of grafts anyway. When you extract these » kind of numbers, does the donor scar remain...reasonable? 'm not sure what » reasonable would mean in this context since most of us would sacrifice a » perfect line for anything like this level of result. If you could through » some light on this, it would be great. Marco, Yes, we think the scar remains reasonable and apparently so do our patients. We will never tell our patients that they will have an invisible scar. We do tell our patients that they will never be able to be a head shaver but that is ok for them. You see, we feel there are two kinds of patients for hair transplantation. Those that want to invest in having as much of a cosmetic improvement as possible and those that want no scar. Our patients come in knowing that they will not be able to shave their heads but they are not head shavers to begin with and they feel that the small restriction of not being able to shave their heads is a small price to pay for having enough hair to style and no longer look bald. Others do not and that is fine as there are other clinics available that will accomodate them. --- Joe Tillman aka, Jotronic Hasson & Wong www.hassonandwong.com www.hairtransplanttv.com Joe@HassonandWong.com 1.800.859.2266 The Truth Is In The Results 7917 FU Grafts
ak 18.03.2008, 16:37 @ jotronic	Dr. Hasson/ NicNitro/ 10,407 Grafts/ 2 Sessions/ 1 Year/ Strip Post reply
	Hi Joe, Can you please elaborate on your statement that those opting for a strip "will not be able to shave their head". I am investigating the possibility of having a strip procedure for 3000 grafts. If this is the case then what length will the scar be? Also, what width? Will it not be possible to extract the strip directly from the back of the head as opposed to the side? I would certainly be comfortable having a pencil thin scar on the back of my head running sideways. In fact, my intention was to have enough grafts to give me the appearance of a shadow when I would shave my hair off. In my mind, that is better than having a transplant that still gives the impression of diffused thinning. I appreciate your advise. » Marco, » » Yes, we think the scar remains reasonable and apparently so do our » patients. We will never tell our patients that they will have an invisible » scar. We do tell our patients that they will never be able to be a head » shaver but that is ok for them. You see, we feel there are two kinds of » patients for hair transplantation. Those that want to invest in having as » much of a cosmetic improvement as possible and those that want no scar. » Our patients come in knowing that they will not be able to shave their » heads but they are not head shavers to begin with and they feel that the » small restriction of not being able to shave their heads is a small price » to pay for having enough hair to style and no longer look bald. Others do » not and that is fine as there are other clinics available that will » accomodate them.
jotronic   18.03.2008, 17:01 @ ak	Dr. Hasson/ NicNitro/ 10,407 Grafts/ 2 Sessions/ 1 Year/ Strip Post reply
	Ak, Most people do not want the strip scar to be visible thus they cannot shave their heads. The length of the scar depends on how loose and dense the donor area is. The more densely the hair is growing and the more loose the donor area is then the shorter (albeit wider) the donor strip will be. For those with tighter scalps or less density then the strip will be more narrow but longer. 3000 grafts would be difficult to keep solely in the back of the scalp so I wouldn't plan on it happening. In fact, if you wish to cut your hair shorter than a #2 then strip is not for you. --- Joe Tillman aka, Jotronic Hasson & Wong www.hassonandwong.com www.hairtransplanttv.com Joe@HassonandWong.com 1.800.859.2266 The Truth Is In The Results 7917 FU Grafts
ak 18.03.2008, 17:05 @ jotronic	Dr. Hasson/ NicNitro/ 10,407 Grafts/ 2 Sessions/ 1 Year/ Strip Post reply
	Thank you for your very prompt answer Joe. Would it be at all possible for me to send you photos of my hair for you to assess the number of grafts I would need in order to have decent coverge? I would simply appreciate your opinion. » Ak, » » Most people do not want the strip scar to be visible thus they cannot » shave their heads. The length of the scar depends on how loose and dense » the donor area is. The more densely the hair is growing and the more loose » the donor area is then the shorter (albeit wider) the donor strip will be. » For those with tighter scalps or less density then the strip will be more » narrow but longer. 3000 grafts would be difficult to keep solely in the » back of the scalp so I wouldn't plan on it happening. In fact, if you wish » to cut your hair shorter than a #2 then strip is not for you.
jotronic   18.03.2008, 17:38 @ ak	Dr. Hasson/ NicNitro/ 10,407 Grafts/ 2 Sessions/ 1 Year/ Strip Post reply
	» Thank you for your very prompt answer Joe. » » Would it be at all possible for me to send you photos of my hair for you » to assess the number of grafts I would need in order to have decent » coverge? » » I would simply appreciate your opinion. » Of course you can. Fill out the form on the page below and I'll share your information with the doctors. http://www.hassonandwong.com/consultation/consultation_form.php --- Joe Tillman aka, Jotronic Hasson & Wong www.hassonandwong.com www.hairtransplanttv.com Joe@HassonandWong.com 1.800.859.2266 The Truth Is In The Results 7917 FU Grafts
jotronic   19.03.2008, 21:08 @ jotronic	**UPDATE FOR VIDEO** Post reply
	Gentlemen, Sorry for the delay regarding the video. It is finally uploaded and of course it was shot in high definition then scaled for the web and as always no flash, no studio lighting, only florescent lighting found in a typical office building. NicNitro/ 10407 Grafts/ Comb Through Video --- Joe Tillman aka, Jotronic Hasson & Wong www.hassonandwong.com www.hairtransplanttv.com Joe@HassonandWong.com 1.800.859.2266 The Truth Is In The Results 7917 FU Grafts
HMorHT 19.03.2008, 22:38 @ jotronic	**UPDATE FOR VIDEO** Post reply
	My HM forum days are pretty much over with the Intercytex update, so how much does something like this cost? It looks great but is there a way to have this hair without cutting me open?
HMorHT 19.03.2008, 22:40 @ jotronic	**UPDATE FOR VIDEO** Post reply
	btw, how many days would it take before this guy can go back to work without people knowing?
boris342002 20.03.2008, 08:28 @ jotronic	**UPDATE FOR VIDEO** Post reply
	» Gentlemen, » » Sorry for the delay regarding the video. It is finally uploaded and of » course it was shot in high definition then scaled for the web and as » always no flash, no studio lighting, only florescent lighting found in a » typical office building. » » NicNitro/ » 10407 Grafts/ Comb Through Video I wanted to ask you a couple of things. 1. In order to view this high resolution, we would need a high def TV, correct me if Im wrong, but do our laptops come with a high def sceen? 2. About this HT, did the dr. use a conservative approach, in other words, if he would of wanted a hairline that was a bit lower and a more round first line would it been possible? The results is great, however, for the number of grafts that he got, it seems that about a 1/3 went to the hairline and front side, while the vast majority went to the vertex? 3. With the light and on the video when it zooms in, Im able to see the scalp or see through, is this gone on natural sunlight for instance? 4. Finally, on a more personal note, I have heard of the heavy workload that the dr. has, does he ever take vacations? Cheers amigos,
jotronic   20.03.2008, 15:02 @ boris342002	**UPDATE FOR VIDEO** Post reply
	» 1. In order to view this high resolution, we would need a high def TV, » correct me if Im wrong, but do our laptops come with a high def sceen? Most any monitor can display at least 720p high definition content but this video is scaled down in size for the web therefore it is not true high definition. The benefit to using high definition as the original source file makes for a more detailed final product, even when the file is formatted for the web. When dealing with video or images, it is always best to have the highest resolution possible before scaling down as it makes the final product that much better. It makes for a larger file oveall that has to be streamed but we feel it is worth it. » 2. About this HT, did the dr. use a conservative approach, in other words, » if he would of wanted a hairline that was a bit lower and a more round » first line would it been possible? The results is great, however, for the » number of grafts that he got, it seems that about a 1/3 went to the » hairline and front side, while the vast majority went to the vertex? Indeed, the patient could have had his hairline restored to be the same as that from his youth but then his crown would have been much thinner than what you see in the video. The lower the hairline, the less hair you have for other regions that may be in need. Considering the patient is close to 50 years of age the hairline is in a pretty good spot. » 3. With the light and on the video when it zooms in, Im able to see the » scalp or see through, is this gone on natural sunlight for instance? Sorry to break this to you but if you take Tom Cruise and get this close you'll see scalp. This is not to say that the density is the same as what Tom Cruise has because it is not but it is pretty damn dense considering the size of the area transplanted. Seeing scalp in certain conditions is a fact of life. The lighting we use is intentionally used to NOT give you any illusions about the density or the overall result. I have always preached about how lighting is deceptive in favor of the clinics. Flash, studio lighting, funky shadow manipulation and deceptive angles are all elements that make the patient look better. If you are thinning have you ever seen your own reflection when in some sort of office building? Did it look thinner than usual? If so, it's probably because the office has florescent lighting. That is was we use INTENTIONALLY so that there is no mistaking what you see. » 4. Finally, on a more personal note, I have heard of the heavy workload » that the dr. has, does he ever take vacations? Yes, both Dr. Hasson and Dr. Wong enjoy their down time at least once a year, sometimes twice a year. They certainly deserve it --- Joe Tillman aka, Jotronic Hasson & Wong www.hassonandwong.com www.hairtransplanttv.com Joe@HassonandWong.com 1.800.859.2266 The Truth Is In The Results 7917 FU Grafts
ixan 20.03.2008, 15:13 @ jotronic	**UPDATE FOR VIDEO** Post reply
	Yes yes, always include a video along with the pictures, no one can argue about the results. The pics do not do him justice. He hair a lot nicer in the video.
craig 22.03.2008, 12:54 @ jotronic	**UPDATE FOR VIDEO** Post reply
	I agree he looks much nicer in the vid. Jotronic, have you ever come across patients who developed cysts inside the strip scar like these ppics? http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-23970-page-0-category-2-order-last_answer-descasc-DESC.html
jotronic   22.03.2008, 18:37 @ craig	**UPDATE FOR VIDEO** Post reply
	Yes, I have seen this but not from any procedures we've done. I've even seen "hairballs". Hair balls are formed when grafts are placed upside down in the patient's recipient area. Yes, you read that right. Grafts placed upside down. The hair still grows but it grows down instead of up and out. I remember a young man from Sweden that had this problem. I have some photos of the extracted tissue when he first came to see us that I'll try to dig up in the next couple of days. --- Joe Tillman aka, Jotronic Hasson & Wong www.hassonandwong.com www.hairtransplanttv.com Joe@HassonandWong.com 1.800.859.2266 The Truth Is In The Results 7917 FU Grafts
craig 22.03.2008, 22:49 @ jotronic	"hairballs" Post reply
	» Yes, I have seen this but not from any procedures we've done. I've even » seen "hairballs". Hair balls are formed when grafts are placed upside down » in the patient's recipient area. Yes, you read that right. Grafts placed » upside down. The hair still grows but it grows down instead of up and out. » I remember a young man from Sweden that had this problem. I have some » photos of the extracted tissue when he first came to see us that I'll try » to dig up in the next couple of days. Thanks. So that happened in the recipient area?
jotronic   23.03.2008, 00:16 @ craig	"hairballs" Post reply
	Yes, the hair started to grow but down instead of up. As the length increases the hair turns in on itself and curls up and just keeps getting longer and longer. The body then tries to reject it and the more unsuccessful rejection occurs the more scar tissue and infection forms thus creating a "ball" of sorts. It's not pretty. --- Joe Tillman aka, Jotronic Hasson & Wong www.hassonandwong.com www.hairtransplanttv.com Joe@HassonandWong.com 1.800.859.2266 The Truth Is In The Results 7917 FU Grafts
craig 24.03.2008, 14:26 @ jotronic	"hairballs" Post reply
	» Yes, the hair started to grow but down instead of up. As the length » increases the hair turns in on itself and curls up and just keeps getting » longer and longer. The body then tries to reject it and the more » unsuccessful rejection occurs the more scar tissue and infection forms » thus creating a "ball" of sorts. It's not pretty. Thanks Joe. This one happened in the donor scar instead of the recipient, so I guess it can happen to both the donor and the recipient, this is like walking on a landmine http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-23970-page-0-category-2-order-last_answer-descasc-DESC.html
stitchmeup 24.03.2008, 15:25 @ jotronic	"hairballs" Post reply
	» Yes, the hair started to grow but down instead of up. As the length » increases the hair turns in on itself and curls up and just keeps getting » longer and longer. The body then tries to reject it and the more » unsuccessful rejection occurs the more scar tissue and infection forms » thus creating a "ball" of sorts. It's not pretty. Isn't it the same as ingrown hair? Can we simply pluck that out with a tweezer?