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njdude007

04.04.2008, 11:09

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Hello all

HAs anyone ever tried or heard of combining Propecia and Saw P , Nettles, or Pygeum? Just wondering if it will work better.

Thanks!

brm

05.04.2008, 20:46

@ njdude007
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Yep.

2.5mg fin + 600mg nettle root (+800mg gingko + 1500mg maca).

Undisputably better than 2.5mg fin alone.

Pete2

06.04.2008, 09:23

@ njdude007
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� Hello all
�
� HAs anyone ever tried or heard of combining Propecia and Saw P , Nettles,
� or Pygeum? Just wondering if it will work better.
�
�
� Thanks!

If you intend on sticking with Propecia, the logical supplement to complement it would be Pygeum.

Regards
Pete

---
1)Shampoo for Inflammation: Piroctone Olamine shampoo /Essential oil blend / Calosol shampoo
2)Topical: Calosol Anti-inflammation Topical Spray (to be added)
3)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium (to be added)

brm

06.04.2008, 17:47

@ Pete2
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�
� If you intend on sticking with Propecia, the logical supplement to
� complement it would be Pygeum.
� Regards
� Pete

Why Pete? And what dosage? let's suppose I want to step down from 2.5mg fin to 1.25mg, how much daily pygeum should I take?

njdude007

07.04.2008, 08:34

@ brm
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� �
� � If you intend on sticking with Propecia, the logical supplement to
� � complement it would be Pygeum.
� � Regards
� � Pete
�
� Why Pete? And what dosage? let's suppose I want to step down from 2.5mg
� fin to 1.25mg, how much daily pygeum should I ta

Thanks for the reply guys.

I'm taking the standard propecia pills. How much pygeum should I take daily?

Pete2

09.04.2008, 15:07

@ njdude007
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� � �
� � � If you intend on sticking with Propecia, the logical supplement to
� � � complement it would be Pygeum.
� � � Regards
� � � Pete
� �
� � Why Pete? And what dosage? let's suppose I want to step down from
� 2.5mg
� � fin to 1.25mg, how much daily pygeum should I ta
�
�
�
� Thanks for the reply guys.
�
�
� I'm taking the standard propecia pills. How much pygeum should I take
� daily?

The dosage is something you will have to work out.
Start off with the lowest dosage and then build up to a maintenance level.

Regards
pete

---
1)Shampoo for Inflammation: Piroctone Olamine shampoo /Essential oil blend / Calosol shampoo
2)Topical: Calosol Anti-inflammation Topical Spray (to be added)
3)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium (to be added)

vivace67

Canada,
12.04.2008, 01:03

@ njdude007
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� Hello all
�
� HAs anyone ever tried or heard of combining Propecia and Saw P , Nettles,
� or Pygeum? Just wondering if it will work better.
�
�
� Thanks!

yeah, i use all of the above... i've been on propeica for 7 years... in my opinion, it's the most powerful drug you can take to slow down hair loss... i recently started taking Saw P, Nettles, Pygeum, and Hair Max and have seen very positive results within weeks... not sure how to explain it

i would also look into getting the laser hair comb ...

---
Hair Regime

Propecia 1mg (daily)
5% Minoxidal (twice daily)
Hair-Max (2pills/day)
Saw Palmetto (320mg) & Pygeum Extract (daily)
Nettle Herb 870mg (daily)
HairMax Laser Comb (use 3 times/week)
Nizoral Shampoo (about 3 times a week)

The Natural

12.04.2008, 09:30

@ vivace67
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I take it that the Propecia has stopped working, since you are adding these naturals. Pardon me for saying, but my word is that a lot DHT inhibition!

Do you ever worry about the long term effects of such (e.g. libido issues)?

---
The Natural Internal Regimen

Vitamin E tocotrienols & alpha-tocopherol (palm fruit): http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7211274-fulltext.html
Curcumin/Resveratrol (turmeric/tiger cane): http://tinyurl.com/2gyt8v

HanginInThere

12.04.2008, 11:28

@ The Natural
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� I take it that the Propecia has stopped working, since you are adding these
� naturals. Pardon me for saying, but my word is that a lot DHT inhibition!
�
� Do you ever worry about the long term effects of such (e.g. libido
� issues)?

most naturals do not cause loss of libido, in fact they increase libido

---
Hangin Regimen...........

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg
2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo

vivace67

Canada,
12.04.2008, 12:07

@ The Natural
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� I take it that the Propecia has stopped working, since you are adding these
� naturals. Pardon me for saying, but my word is that a lot DHT inhibition!
�
� Do you ever worry about the long term effects of such (e.g. libido
� issues)?

no, the propecia is still working, but my hair line has receded slightly over the last 7 years... i did read that propecia loses its effects after 5 years, and I would somewhat agree,but it's still working for me (knock on wood)... i'm taking the natural stuff to add to the DHT inhibition portfolio...

the libido has never diminished (i've always had a huge sex drive), but sexual performance has definitely weakened and i noticed soon after taking propecia...

my strategy is to keep as much of my hair as i can till there is a real solution... if that means having a "lot of DHT inhibition", so be it....

---
Hair Regime

Propecia 1mg (daily)
5% Minoxidal (twice daily)
Hair-Max (2pills/day)
Saw Palmetto (320mg) & Pygeum Extract (daily)
Nettle Herb 870mg (daily)
HairMax Laser Comb (use 3 times/week)
Nizoral Shampoo (about 3 times a week)

Pete2

13.04.2008, 04:06

@ vivace67
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�
� the libido has never diminished (i've always had a huge sex drive), but
� sexual performance has definitely weakened and i noticed soon after taking
� propecia...
�
� my strategy is to keep as much of my hair as i can till there is a real
� solution... if that means having a "lot of DHT inhibition", so be it....

Actually its the balance of hormones which are key ie the Testosterone to Estradiol ratio.

If your noticing libido issues double up your Pygeum intake for a "short burst" to see if you notice any improvement.

Regards
Pete

---
1)Shampoo for Inflammation: Piroctone Olamine shampoo /Essential oil blend / Calosol shampoo
2)Topical: Calosol Anti-inflammation Topical Spray (to be added)
3)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium (to be added)

vivace67

Canada,
13.04.2008, 12:09

@ Pete2
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�
� Actually its the balance of hormones which are key ie the Testosterone to
� Estradiol ratio.
�
� If your noticing libido issues double up your Pygeum intake for a "short
� burst" to see if you notice any improvement.

Thanks Pete.

I'm using a SP and Pygeum pill. do you suggest tryign to find Pygeum on its own and increasing doasage?

---
Hair Regime

Propecia 1mg (daily)
5% Minoxidal (twice daily)
Hair-Max (2pills/day)
Saw Palmetto (320mg) & Pygeum Extract (daily)
Nettle Herb 870mg (daily)
HairMax Laser Comb (use 3 times/week)
Nizoral Shampoo (about 3 times a week)

Pete2

13.04.2008, 13:16

@ vivace67
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� �
� � Actually its the balance of hormones which are key ie the Testosterone
� to
� � Estradiol ratio.
� �
� � If your noticing libido issues double up your Pygeum intake for a
� "short
� � burst" to see if you notice any improvement.
�
� Thanks Pete.
�
� I'm using a SP and Pygeum pill. do you suggest tryign to find Pygeum on
� its own and increasing doasage?

If you want to stick to Propecia there is no logic in taking SP aswell. Try a combination of Propecia and Pygeum. Try Pygeum at its lowest dosage for a period of time and monitor your issues.If it doesnt have any effect, double your dosage of Pygeum.

Regards
Pete

---
1)Shampoo for Inflammation: Piroctone Olamine shampoo /Essential oil blend / Calosol shampoo
2)Topical: Calosol Anti-inflammation Topical Spray (to be added)
3)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium (to be added)

RNORAM

13.04.2008, 20:03

@ Pete2
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� � �
� � � Actually its the balance of hormones which are key ie the
� Testosterone
� � to
� � � Estradiol ratio.
� � �
� � � If your noticing libido issues double up your Pygeum intake for a
� � "short
� � � burst" to see if you notice any improvement.
� �
� � Thanks Pete.
� �
� � I'm using a SP and Pygeum pill. do you suggest tryign to find Pygeum on
� � its own and increasing doasage?
�
�
�
� If you want to stick to Propecia there is no logic in taking SP aswell.
� Try a combination of Propecia and Pygeum. Try Pygeum at its lowest dosage
� for a period of time and monitor your issues.If it doesnt have any effect,
� double your dosage of Pygeum.
�
�
�
�
�
�
� Regards
� Pete

So are you saying Pygeum can affect the libido and decrease it?

Pete2

14.04.2008, 01:08

@ RNORAM
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� � � �
� � � � Actually its the balance of hormones which are key ie the
� � Testosterone
� � � to
� � � � Estradiol ratio.
� � � �
� � � � If your noticing libido issues double up your Pygeum intake for a
� � � "short
� � � � burst" to see if you notice any improvement.
� � �
� � � Thanks Pete.
� � �
� � � I'm using a SP and Pygeum pill. do you suggest tryign to find Pygeum
� on
� � � its own and increasing doasage?
� �
� �
� �
� � If you want to stick to Propecia there is no logic in taking SP aswell.
� � Try a combination of Propecia and Pygeum. Try Pygeum at its lowest
� dosage
� � for a period of time and monitor your issues.If it doesnt have any
� effect,
� � double your dosage of Pygeum.
� �
� �
� �
� �
� �
� �
� � Regards
� � Pete
�
�
�
�
�
� So are you saying Pygeum can affect the libido and decrease it?

Pygeum may help to normalise your libido issues whilst on Propecia.

Regards
Pete

---
1)Shampoo for Inflammation: Piroctone Olamine shampoo /Essential oil blend / Calosol shampoo
2)Topical: Calosol Anti-inflammation Topical Spray (to be added)
3)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium (to be added)

vivace67

Canada,
14.04.2008, 01:19

@ Pete2
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�
�
�
� If you want to stick to Propecia there is no logic in taking SP aswell.
� Try a combination of Propecia and Pygeum. Try Pygeum at its lowest dosage
� for a period of time and monitor your issues.If it doesnt have any effect,
� double your dosage of Pygeum.

is SP going to hurt things? if not, I'll stick with it too...

---
Hair Regime

Propecia 1mg (daily)
5% Minoxidal (twice daily)
Hair-Max (2pills/day)
Saw Palmetto (320mg) & Pygeum Extract (daily)
Nettle Herb 870mg (daily)
HairMax Laser Comb (use 3 times/week)
Nizoral Shampoo (about 3 times a week)

Pete2

14.04.2008, 02:09

@ vivace67
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� �
� �
� �
� � If you want to stick to Propecia there is no logic in taking SP aswell.
� � Try a combination of Propecia and Pygeum. Try Pygeum at its lowest
� dosage
� � for a period of time and monitor your issues.If it doesnt have any
� effect,
� � double your dosage of Pygeum.
�
�
� is SP going to hurt things? if not, I'll stick with it too...

Monitor your progress and you decide.

By doubling up on blocking DHT you may increase your libido issues even more.

Regards
Pete

---
1)Shampoo for Inflammation: Piroctone Olamine shampoo /Essential oil blend / Calosol shampoo
2)Topical: Calosol Anti-inflammation Topical Spray (to be added)
3)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium (to be added)

HairSite Admin

19.04.2008, 03:00

@ vivace67
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I dont find any studies on combination treatment with finasteride and saw palmetto in terms of synergism or side effects. Not even in prostatic hypertrophy patients.

---
I offer research assistance for HairSite.
email: hairsite@aol.com for free consultations
=====================================
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1. Help China Earthquake Victims
2. Free hair replacement system for men & women

njdude007 04.04.2008, 11:09	Question for all (All Natural, Supplements & Diet) Post reply
	Hello all HAs anyone ever tried or heard of combining Propecia and Saw P , Nettles, or Pygeum? Just wondering if it will work better. Thanks!
brm 05.04.2008, 20:46 @ njdude007	Question for all Post reply
	Yep. 2.5mg fin + 600mg nettle root (+800mg gingko + 1500mg maca). Undisputably better than 2.5mg fin alone.
Pete2 06.04.2008, 09:23 @ njdude007	Question for all Post reply
	� Hello all � � HAs anyone ever tried or heard of combining Propecia and Saw P , Nettles, � or Pygeum? Just wondering if it will work better. � � � Thanks! If you intend on sticking with Propecia, the logical supplement to complement it would be Pygeum. Regards Pete --- 1)Shampoo for Inflammation: Piroctone Olamine shampoo /Essential oil blend / Calosol shampoo 2)Topical: Calosol Anti-inflammation Topical Spray (to be added) 3)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium (to be added)
brm 06.04.2008, 17:47 @ Pete2	Question for all Post reply
	� � If you intend on sticking with Propecia, the logical supplement to � complement it would be Pygeum. � Regards � Pete Why Pete? And what dosage? let's suppose I want to step down from 2.5mg fin to 1.25mg, how much daily pygeum should I take?
njdude007 07.04.2008, 08:34 @ brm	Question for all Post reply
	� � � � If you intend on sticking with Propecia, the logical supplement to � � complement it would be Pygeum. � � Regards � � Pete � � Why Pete? And what dosage? let's suppose I want to step down from 2.5mg � fin to 1.25mg, how much daily pygeum should I ta Thanks for the reply guys. I'm taking the standard propecia pills. How much pygeum should I take daily?
Pete2 09.04.2008, 15:07 @ njdude007	Question for all Post reply
	� � � � � � If you intend on sticking with Propecia, the logical supplement to � � � complement it would be Pygeum. � � � Regards � � � Pete � � � � Why Pete? And what dosage? let's suppose I want to step down from � 2.5mg � � fin to 1.25mg, how much daily pygeum should I ta � � � � Thanks for the reply guys. � � � I'm taking the standard propecia pills. How much pygeum should I take � daily? The dosage is something you will have to work out. Start off with the lowest dosage and then build up to a maintenance level. Regards pete --- 1)Shampoo for Inflammation: Piroctone Olamine shampoo /Essential oil blend / Calosol shampoo 2)Topical: Calosol Anti-inflammation Topical Spray (to be added) 3)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium (to be added)
vivace67 Canada, 12.04.2008, 01:03 @ njdude007	Question for all Post reply
	� Hello all � � HAs anyone ever tried or heard of combining Propecia and Saw P , Nettles, � or Pygeum? Just wondering if it will work better. � � � Thanks! yeah, i use all of the above... i've been on propeica for 7 years... in my opinion, it's the most powerful drug you can take to slow down hair loss... i recently started taking Saw P, Nettles, Pygeum, and Hair Max and have seen very positive results within weeks... not sure how to explain it i would also look into getting the laser hair comb ... --- Hair Regime Propecia 1mg (daily) 5% Minoxidal (twice daily) Hair-Max (2pills/day) Saw Palmetto (320mg) & Pygeum Extract (daily) Nettle Herb 870mg (daily) HairMax Laser Comb (use 3 times/week) Nizoral Shampoo (about 3 times a week)
The Natural 12.04.2008, 09:30 @ vivace67	Question for all Post reply
	I take it that the Propecia has stopped working, since you are adding these naturals. Pardon me for saying, but my word is that a lot DHT inhibition! Do you ever worry about the long term effects of such (e.g. libido issues)? --- The Natural Internal Regimen Vitamin E tocotrienols & alpha-tocopherol (palm fruit): http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7211274-fulltext.html Curcumin/Resveratrol (turmeric/tiger cane): http://tinyurl.com/2gyt8v
HanginInThere 12.04.2008, 11:28 @ The Natural	Question for all Post reply
	� I take it that the Propecia has stopped working, since you are adding these � naturals. Pardon me for saying, but my word is that a lot DHT inhibition! � � Do you ever worry about the long term effects of such (e.g. libido � issues)? most naturals do not cause loss of libido, in fact they increase libido --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
vivace67 Canada, 12.04.2008, 12:07 @ The Natural	Question for all Post reply
	� I take it that the Propecia has stopped working, since you are adding these � naturals. Pardon me for saying, but my word is that a lot DHT inhibition! � � Do you ever worry about the long term effects of such (e.g. libido � issues)? no, the propecia is still working, but my hair line has receded slightly over the last 7 years... i did read that propecia loses its effects after 5 years, and I would somewhat agree,but it's still working for me (knock on wood)... i'm taking the natural stuff to add to the DHT inhibition portfolio... the libido has never diminished (i've always had a huge sex drive), but sexual performance has definitely weakened and i noticed soon after taking propecia... my strategy is to keep as much of my hair as i can till there is a real solution... if that means having a "lot of DHT inhibition", so be it.... --- Hair Regime Propecia 1mg (daily) 5% Minoxidal (twice daily) Hair-Max (2pills/day) Saw Palmetto (320mg) & Pygeum Extract (daily) Nettle Herb 870mg (daily) HairMax Laser Comb (use 3 times/week) Nizoral Shampoo (about 3 times a week)
Pete2 13.04.2008, 04:06 @ vivace67	Question for all Post reply
	� � the libido has never diminished (i've always had a huge sex drive), but � sexual performance has definitely weakened and i noticed soon after taking � propecia... � � my strategy is to keep as much of my hair as i can till there is a real � solution... if that means having a "lot of DHT inhibition", so be it.... Actually its the balance of hormones which are key ie the Testosterone to Estradiol ratio. If your noticing libido issues double up your Pygeum intake for a "short burst" to see if you notice any improvement. Regards Pete --- 1)Shampoo for Inflammation: Piroctone Olamine shampoo /Essential oil blend / Calosol shampoo 2)Topical: Calosol Anti-inflammation Topical Spray (to be added) 3)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium (to be added)
vivace67 Canada, 13.04.2008, 12:09 @ Pete2	Question for all Post reply
	� � Actually its the balance of hormones which are key ie the Testosterone to � Estradiol ratio. � � If your noticing libido issues double up your Pygeum intake for a "short � burst" to see if you notice any improvement. Thanks Pete. I'm using a SP and Pygeum pill. do you suggest tryign to find Pygeum on its own and increasing doasage? --- Hair Regime Propecia 1mg (daily) 5% Minoxidal (twice daily) Hair-Max (2pills/day) Saw Palmetto (320mg) & Pygeum Extract (daily) Nettle Herb 870mg (daily) HairMax Laser Comb (use 3 times/week) Nizoral Shampoo (about 3 times a week)
Pete2 13.04.2008, 13:16 @ vivace67	Question for all Post reply
	� � � � Actually its the balance of hormones which are key ie the Testosterone � to � � Estradiol ratio. � � � � If your noticing libido issues double up your Pygeum intake for a � "short � � burst" to see if you notice any improvement. � � Thanks Pete. � � I'm using a SP and Pygeum pill. do you suggest tryign to find Pygeum on � its own and increasing doasage? If you want to stick to Propecia there is no logic in taking SP aswell. Try a combination of Propecia and Pygeum. Try Pygeum at its lowest dosage for a period of time and monitor your issues.If it doesnt have any effect, double your dosage of Pygeum. Regards Pete --- 1)Shampoo for Inflammation: Piroctone Olamine shampoo /Essential oil blend / Calosol shampoo 2)Topical: Calosol Anti-inflammation Topical Spray (to be added) 3)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium (to be added)
RNORAM 13.04.2008, 20:03 @ Pete2	Question for all Post reply
	� � � � � � Actually its the balance of hormones which are key ie the � Testosterone � � to � � � Estradiol ratio. � � � � � � If your noticing libido issues double up your Pygeum intake for a � � "short � � � burst" to see if you notice any improvement. � � � � Thanks Pete. � � � � I'm using a SP and Pygeum pill. do you suggest tryign to find Pygeum on � � its own and increasing doasage? � � � � If you want to stick to Propecia there is no logic in taking SP aswell. � Try a combination of Propecia and Pygeum. Try Pygeum at its lowest dosage � for a period of time and monitor your issues.If it doesnt have any effect, � double your dosage of Pygeum. � � � � � � � Regards � Pete So are you saying Pygeum can affect the libido and decrease it?
Pete2 14.04.2008, 01:08 @ RNORAM	Question for all Post reply
	� � � � � � � � Actually its the balance of hormones which are key ie the � � Testosterone � � � to � � � � Estradiol ratio. � � � � � � � � If your noticing libido issues double up your Pygeum intake for a � � � "short � � � � burst" to see if you notice any improvement. � � � � � � Thanks Pete. � � � � � � I'm using a SP and Pygeum pill. do you suggest tryign to find Pygeum � on � � � its own and increasing doasage? � � � � � � � � If you want to stick to Propecia there is no logic in taking SP aswell. � � Try a combination of Propecia and Pygeum. Try Pygeum at its lowest � dosage � � for a period of time and monitor your issues.If it doesnt have any � effect, � � double your dosage of Pygeum. � � � � � � � � � � � � � � Regards � � Pete � � � � � � So are you saying Pygeum can affect the libido and decrease it? Pygeum may help to normalise your libido issues whilst on Propecia. Regards Pete --- 1)Shampoo for Inflammation: Piroctone Olamine shampoo /Essential oil blend / Calosol shampoo 2)Topical: Calosol Anti-inflammation Topical Spray (to be added) 3)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium (to be added)
vivace67 Canada, 14.04.2008, 01:19 @ Pete2	Question for all Post reply
	� � � � If you want to stick to Propecia there is no logic in taking SP aswell. � Try a combination of Propecia and Pygeum. Try Pygeum at its lowest dosage � for a period of time and monitor your issues.If it doesnt have any effect, � double your dosage of Pygeum. is SP going to hurt things? if not, I'll stick with it too... --- Hair Regime Propecia 1mg (daily) 5% Minoxidal (twice daily) Hair-Max (2pills/day) Saw Palmetto (320mg) & Pygeum Extract (daily) Nettle Herb 870mg (daily) HairMax Laser Comb (use 3 times/week) Nizoral Shampoo (about 3 times a week)
Pete2 14.04.2008, 02:09 @ vivace67	Question for all Post reply
	� � � � � � � � If you want to stick to Propecia there is no logic in taking SP aswell. � � Try a combination of Propecia and Pygeum. Try Pygeum at its lowest � dosage � � for a period of time and monitor your issues.If it doesnt have any � effect, � � double your dosage of Pygeum. � � � is SP going to hurt things? if not, I'll stick with it too... Monitor your progress and you decide. By doubling up on blocking DHT you may increase your libido issues even more. Regards Pete --- 1)Shampoo for Inflammation: Piroctone Olamine shampoo /Essential oil blend / Calosol shampoo 2)Topical: Calosol Anti-inflammation Topical Spray (to be added) 3)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium (to be added)
HairSite Admin 19.04.2008, 03:00 @ vivace67	Question for all Post reply
	I dont find any studies on combination treatment with finasteride and saw palmetto in terms of synergism or side effects. Not even in prostatic hypertrophy patients. --- I offer research assistance for HairSite. email: hairsite@aol.com for free consultations ===================================== reminder: 1. Help China Earthquake Victims 2. Free hair replacement system for men & women

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