Stevi
01.05.2008, 09:26 |
When come HM????? (Hair Multiplication & Research) |
Hi!
Iam from europe(germany),and I have a great interest to Hair-Multiplication.
Can you gave me some Infos about HM,and when we can get???
Thanks and best wishes...
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FatalEvolution
URANUS,
01.05.2008, 10:55
@ Stevi
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When come HM????? |
» Hi!
» Iam from europe(germany),and I have a great interest to
» Hair-Multiplication.
» Can you gave me some Infos about HM,and when we can get???
» Thanks and best wishes...
Best case (hypothetic) seems to be 4 to 5 five years away, but it's just speculation. We don't know for now since there has been failures recently from firms which where supposed to deliver in 2010, so here we start again. The only "legit" firm that could come up with something now is called Follica bio, that's about all.
cheers
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Stevi
01.05.2008, 11:31
@ Stevi
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When come HM????? |
» Hi!
» Iam from europe(germany),and I have a great interest to
» Hair-Multiplication.
» Can you gave me some Infos about HM,and when we can get???
» Thanks and best wishes...
And whats about intercytex?I heard they start trial 3???
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biston
01.05.2008, 11:38
@ Stevi
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When come HM????? |
Never!
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Stevi
01.05.2008, 11:46
@ biston
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When come HM????? |
» Never!
Never for you but for me
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BALDIE42
Uk,
01.05.2008, 13:34
@ Stevi
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Intercytex information - make your own mind up - who knows |
ICX-TRC is an autologous hair regeneration therapy, a suspension of human dermal papilla cells, for the treatment of male pattern baldness and female diffuse alopecia. It is intended that ICX-TRC will be used by specialists in hair transplant centres, dermatologists and plastic surgeons to treat patients with hair thinning or hair loss.
Background
Both male pattern baldness and female diffuse alopecia result in hair-loss or slowing of hair growth. They may be caused by physical damage to the hair itself or to the hair follicles, but commonly arise as a consequence of changes in the natural growth cycle of hair generally resulting in fewer dermal papilla cells. Approximately 95% of all cases are of genetic origin.
Market opportunity
Hair loss affects approximately 40% of men and 20% of women aged 50 and over. In the US there are an estimated 40 million men and 12 million women suffering from some degree of baldness. The estimated market size for hair regeneration products and treatments is over $1 billion for both men and women but only 2% of patients suffering hair loss currently seek any treatment indicating a potentially far higher market size*.
Existing conventional treatments, involving the transplant of whole hairs, represent the only means of regenerating bald or thinning areas. This is a highly costly ($10,000 - $20,000) specialist procedure. Extensive tissue is required, obtained by the removal of a large section of scalp leaving a significant scar at the donor site. Individual follicles are removed from the dissected scalp by specialised technicians and then individually re-implanted into surgical incisions created in the scalp. This procedure usually takes place during two, eight-hour implant sessions performed under a local anaesthetic. A lengthy recovery period may be required during which time the patient may suffer from pain, bleeding and swelling of the scalp. In general the cosmetic effect is excellent, however in all cases, the quality of outcome is limited by the amount of donor hair available. Moreover, many individuals electing to undergo this procedure do not progress to transplant surgery as they have insufficient transplantable hair follicles to benefit from the technique as between 2,000 - 5,000 follicles are often needed for this procedure.
The ICX-TRC procedure is significantly less problematic than conventional hair transplants. In terms of the amount of tissue taken from the patient, only a small sample of approximately 120 follicles is needed. As a consequence, trauma suffered by the patient during the procedure may be dramatically reduced. Furthermore, as dermal papilla (DP)cells can be derived from a very small area of hair-bearing scalp, a much higher population of patients will be able to benefit from ICX-TRC than conventional transplantation. Superficial injection of cultured cells into the scalp causes far less tissue damage than implanting multiple hair follicles and is a considerably simpler, shorter and less painful process.
The ICX-TRC procedure
A small sample of hair follicles is taken from the patient during a simple 30 minute operation carried out under local anaesthetic at a hair or skin clinic. The clinic sends the biopsy to Intercytex’ GMP compliant manufacturing facility where the DP cells are dissociated from the rest of the follicle. These cells are cultured and expanded in proprietary media over three weeks and subsequently returned to the clinic in a sterile suspension.
Using a specialised delivery system, the DP cells are microinjected intradermally into the patient’s scalp. The treatment is performed under local anaesthetic and comprises a single procedure of superficial injections, each injection delivering a minute volume of media containing DP cells. These cells are able to stimulate the generation of new hairs when injected in close proximity to the epidermal cells which generate the hair. Following the procedure, new hair growth should become evident after approximately three months.
ICX-TRC clinical and commercial development
Phase I clinical trials (safety) have been completed in seven volunteers at a single UK transplant centre. No safety issues have arisen and five out of seven patients have shown increased hair numbers.
The treatment phase of a Phase II trial, being conducted by Dr Bessam Farjo in Manchester, to optimise the delivery of the DP cells, has been completed.
In this study, hair counts were obtained by shaving and photographing a small section of scalp, injecting it and then applying a specialised image analysis system to provide a total hair count. All 19 subjects in the trial have now been treated using a range of injection and scalp pre-stimulation techniques; the first six subjects were injected without stimulation of the scalp. In the remaining 13 the resident hair producing (epithelial) cells were stimulated at the time of delivery of the DP cells.
11 subjects have now passed the 24-week time point since treatment and specialised image analysis at this time point showed:
· Of the group of six patients without stimulation of the scalp, three had an increased hair count and two had a reduced hair count; one has been lost to follow-up.
· Of the five subjects with pre-treatment scalp stimulation, all had increased hair count at 12 weeks and the three who were evaluable at 24 weeks all had an increased hair count at that time point.
These data are consistent with the earlier data reported last September and the hypothesis that new hair production is improved by pre-stimulation of the scalp, leading to an interaction between the injected cells and the resident hair producing cells.
24 week data on all subjects in the trial will be available in September 2008 and at the end of the trial, photographic data will be analysed from a much larger area of treated scalp on all subjects at 48 weeks.
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cal
01.05.2008, 15:03
@ BALDIE42
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Intercytex information - make your own mind up - who knows |
ICX's phase#2 results have been cryptically reported. It looks like they were disappointing compared to Phase#1. The future of ICX-TRC is unknown right now.
Follica inc. is starting human testing on a hair-regeneration technique using drugs that the FDA has already approved safe in humans for other purposes. If it works well, we may get HM within as little as 1-3 years. If Follica's method does not work well, then we are in big trouble. We will probably not see any other HM methods being tested for at least another 5 years, maybe even 10 years or beyond.
The new "Acell" wound-healing substance that is just starting to be used in humans may also have some hair-growing potential. It has already been capable of wound-healing regrowth that we believe should have been more difficult than hair follicles. But absolutely nothing is known about the results of this stuff for hair yet.
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Stevi
01.05.2008, 15:23
@ Stevi
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When come HM????? |
My friends...
we in Germany(europe)still waiting too at HM!
My english isnt the best and i have any problems to translat.
We heard,Foli. will start this summer trail at humans.Is this right
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cal
02.05.2008, 01:14
@ Stevi
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When come HM????? |
It is very likely that Follica will be testing on humans soon. It should begin this summer (2008).
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Stevi
02.05.2008, 03:29
@ cal
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When come HM????? |
» It is very likely that Follica will be testing on humans soon. It should
» begin this summer (2008).
I think it too!!!
Hopfuly,as early as possible
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debris
03.05.2008, 05:42
@ Stevi
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When come HM????? |
» My friends...
» we in Germany(europe)still waiting too at HM!
» My english isnt the best and i have any problems to translat.
» We heard,Foli. will start this summer trail at humans.Is this right
basically the answer is: do not expect anything earlier than 5 years from now on, and be prepared to wait 20 years or even forever.
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Stevi
03.05.2008, 06:29
@ debris
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When come HM????? |
But all they say(intercytx and co.)that its come!!!!But when????????????
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debris
03.05.2008, 06:31
(edited by debris, 03.05.2008, 08:09)
@ Stevi
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When come HM????? |
» But all they say(intercytx and co.)that its come!!!!But when????????????
Sorry dude, but truth is that it is not going to be available before 2012 and chances are that it will never work. All research so far has failed. Every single one.
It can easily happen that we are all going to die bald. Deal with it.
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LatinLover
03.05.2008, 08:30
@ debris
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When come HM????? |
»
» Sorry dude, but truth is that it is not going to be available before 2012
» and chances are that it will never work. All research so far has failed.
» Every single one.
»
» It can easily happen that we are all going to die bald. Deal with it.
It depends what is your own way to deal in life - I have faced much more horrible stuff than hair loss (as most of us I'll assume), but personnally I think I won't die bold. But true, will be years before it will be on the market, but with future technologies starting to be tested/accepted to be tested (aethical issues in some cases) based on e.g. genes/ADN etc, should become a solution at some stage (and that's not taking into account Follica ACell etc).
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TheOne
03.05.2008, 09:14
(edited by TheOne, 03.05.2008, 09:53)
@ debris
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When come HM????? |
» » But all they say(intercytx and co.)that its come!!!!But when????????????
»
» Sorry dude, but truth is that it is not going to be available before 2012
» and chances are that it will never work. All research so far has failed.
» Every single one.
»
» It can easily happen that we are all going to die bald. Deal with it.
I'm sick of people saying ICX has failed wah wah wah, the only thing that has failed is your understanding.
Just because the results weren't what you were expecting doesn't make it a failure, they are very likely going to complete phase II, get a partner, complete phase III and come to market!
Injecting DP cells, sure as sh!t grows hair!, maybe not enough to densely cover your shinny top but as long as it grows some it is a success. All patients treated with pre-stimulation regrew hair!
Just because there is no small scale commercialization this year doesn't make it a failure, just because the trial is taking longer than you want doesn't make it a failure, Things in life very rarely go as swiftly and problem free as we'd like.
Just because they didn't release detailed data yet doesn't make it a failure, they are half way through a trial for god sake! why would they give details half way through.
Until the day comes when there is no more research going into TRC by anyone, and they announce that it has failed........it hasn't failed.
They very well may do this in their next announcement, but until then..........IT HASN'T FAILED YET!
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Stevi
03.05.2008, 11:05
@ TheOne
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When come HM????? |
But whats the problem now???when ist dosnt failed???why isnt it on the market???
How long must we wait???
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debris
03.05.2008, 17:47
(edited by debris, 03.05.2008, 18:30)
@ Stevi
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When come HM????? |
» But whats the problem now???when ist dosnt failed???why isnt it on the
» market???
» How long must we wait???
Stevi: the problem is that it does not work yet.
It has not passed human trials, but whats worse, it has never even been tested on humans, or the things that have been tested, all failed.
There is not a single one treatment that would have worked in humans.
The day this treatment is found is a day when you can start waiting. Average cancer human trial takes 10 years and cancer is serious deadly disease. This won't be different. The day they find something that works in humans (and they have not yet), is the day you can start hoping for 10 years only.
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TheOne
03.05.2008, 22:17
(edited by TheOne, 03.05.2008, 22:26)
@ debris
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When come HM????? |
Wow Sorry man I just realized how aggressive my previous post seems, I didn't mean it like that, I don't even have that much hope for TRC anymore.
I must have been in a pretty bad mood earlier.
I am hopeful that Follica are on to something with what they propose to do though, the science behind it is certainly promising, as is what Acell have.
An out right cure may be a long way off, but I'm hopeful there will be at least a promising treatment within the next 10 years.
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benji
03.05.2008, 22:25
@ debris
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When come HM????? |
» » But whats the problem now???when ist dosnt failed???why isnt it on the
» » market???
» » How long must we wait???
»
» Stevi: the problem is that it does not work yet.
»
» It has not passed human trials, but whats worse, it has never even been
» tested on humans, or the things that have been tested, all failed.
»
» There is not a single one treatment that would have worked in humans.
»
» The day this treatment is found is a day when you can start waiting.
» Average cancer human trial takes 10 years and cancer is serious deadly
» disease. This won't be different. The day they find something that works in
» humans (and they have not yet), is the day you can start hoping for 10
» years only.
This is hopelessly UNTRUE. IF Follica's trials go well, they can go straight to market. The drugs are already FDA approved (finas/dutas and getfitinib and minoxidil). Dermabrasion is already performed every day in this nation and has no FDA oversight. There is no need for FDA trials nor will there be any FDA trials. It just has to work..................thats the rub they are faced with---which is why I hope trials start in Boston over the summer.
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Stevi
04.05.2008, 05:03
@ benji
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When come HM????? |
»
» This is hopelessly UNTRUE. IF Follica's trials go well, they can go
» straight to market. The drugs are already FDA approved (finas/dutas and
» getfitinib and minoxidil). Dermabrasion is already performed every day in
» this nation and has no FDA oversight. There is no need for FDA trials nor
» will there be any FDA trials. It just has to work..................thats
» the rub they are faced with---which is why I hope trials start in Boston
» over the summer.
And then.Can we hope it is in max 5 years on the market???
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debris
04.05.2008, 05:15
@ benji
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When come HM????? |
Sorry but this has been here dozen times before. Basically you are saying if miracle happens then we are cured. But so far it never did. There were similar situations and all failed. Most of them failed because it worked in animals better then in humans. There is no reason to think that follica will be different.
As far as I know FDA grants permision for a specific purpose. If they want to use the stuff in a new way they will need to ask again and then it is up to FDA to decide if trials are needed or not.
I doubt that FDA will just let them go with scraping ppls heads and throwing some growth stuff into the wounds without testing it properly. I know that in theory the ingredients could have been already allowed for other uses. It does not mean though that FDA will just let them go ahead with it even for this usage where new tissue is about to be grown in vivo. To me, it just sounds like asking for cancer or some serious trouble later on.
BTW that information about skipping the trials has been here before as well. It's the same wishful thinking and walking in circles.
What I mean is that you are true, in theory it could happen. History though says that it will not.
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debris
04.05.2008, 05:20
@ Stevi
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When come HM????? |
you are free to hope for anything. Reality will teach you.
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debris
04.05.2008, 05:24
@ TheOne
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When come HM????? |
yeah. To me though, Stevi sounds like typical newbie user who just realized he's going bald and now things I'll wait 5 years at the most and have it fixed.
We all know here that chances it's going to work out this way are very slim. Most probably he will start hiding in his house, stop meeting people and will put his life on hold for several years during which everything will get only worse for him.
It has happened to so many guys here.
The truth is that most probably Stevi, as well as me and others will be bald before anything substantially better than finasteride reaches the market.
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Stevi
04.05.2008, 05:37
@ debris
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When come HM????? |
History???And the Future?
The marked get it
They want money,your money,and you want hair!!!
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Stevi
04.05.2008, 05:38
@ Stevi
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When come HM????? |
» History???And the Future?
» The marked get it
» They want money,your money,and you want hair!!!
Sorry,my english isnt the best.Im form germany
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debris
04.05.2008, 05:57
@ Stevi
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When come HM????? |
Your english is good enough Stevi.
The problem is that all the guys before follica wanted money as well. All of them failed or disapointed the market.
Wanting money is just not enough to crack the problem and well it is quite tough one.
Most scientists seem to be doing the same mistake for decades now. They try to find a solution on animals even though so far not a single treatment that has been discovered to work good on animals have worked even close to the same in humans. This is the case of follica as well.
You seem to have high spirits which is good. Have you considered just shaving it off? Go to some capital city and look around. There will be tons of shaved heads around.
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biston
04.05.2008, 06:09
@ Stevi
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When come HM????? |
» But whats the problem now???when ist dosnt failed???why isnt it on the
» market???
» How long must we wait???
the problem? it doesn't work ! (could never work) and no one wants to accept this reality
the fact is: everything works on mice, so I have no problem to believe in that ('cause this is a fact)
but nothing works on human FOR NOW, when someone will shows to us any FACT, then I'll believe
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Stevi
04.05.2008, 06:11
@ debris
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When come HM????? |
sure.
I havent hair loss,but im afraid to loss my hair.You know???
And it is better for all to know,there is anything on the marked to help in some years!!!
Im 26 years old,you???
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debris
04.05.2008, 06:15
@ Stevi
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When come HM????? |
» sure.
» I havent hair loss,but im afraid to loss my hair.You know???
» And it is better for all to know,there is anything on the marked to help
» in some years!!!
» Im 26 years old,you???
I'm almost 29. If you are worried, get on finasteride, and really consider buzzing it down or shaving it off completely. It's worth trying. When you do so, then if taking a picture of yourself, smile! No one looks good if he stares into the camera shaking with a fear of how it's going to look like.
Also get some tan and maybe hit a gym. This makes shaved head look much better.
Also, please understand, that there is no guarantee that there is anything comming to help you with hair in few years. Chances are it will not happen. Most probably you will have to face the balding sooner or later. Do not waste your youth and life worrying about something as stupid as hair.
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Stevi
04.05.2008, 06:19
@ debris
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When come HM????? |
i have time,and you or your friends
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LatinLover
04.05.2008, 06:39
@ debris
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When come HM????? |
» I'm almost 29. If you are worried, get on finasteride, and really
» consider buzzing it down or shaving it off completely. It's worth trying.
» When you do so, then if taking a picture of yourself, smile! No one looks
» good if he stares into the camera shaking with a fear of how it's going to
» look like.
»
» Also get some tan and maybe hit a gym. This makes shaved head look much
» better.
»
» Also, please understand, that there is no guarantee that there is anything
» comming to help you with hair in few years. Chances are it will not happen.
» Most probably you will have to face the balding sooner or later. Do not
» waste your youth and life worrying about something as stupid as hair.
Exactly, very good post Debris.
I started to receed a few years ago, got it stabilised now (lucky in the sense that I am under no medication except vitamins and when it itches a kerastene product that stop it). Have now probably a NW2-3 (receeding), I cut it short, and am not scared to face a mirror like that.
Am 35, exercise home 20 minutes a day, and could still be very successful even with girls of your age (if I wanted, but am now happily married). Think that girls look at what is sexy in you, and that they don't like "too perfect" guys incl. hair - that is one of the thing I know for sure and it helps.
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Stevi
04.05.2008, 08:22
@ LatinLover
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When come HM????? |
Exectly,but iam not here to talk with you about your Sex-Life and your girls
I want only get Infos about HM...
A part of this Forum is HM-Forum!!!When HM never works,why this Forum???
Can you answer the quastion my friends
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LatinLover
04.05.2008, 13:46
@ Stevi
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When come HM????? |
We are discussing progress/updates on current research for possible partial or complete cure on this forum.
Sorry about that mein Freund, by reading my email back, was sounding a bit as you described it. it is just that some people come to this website, expect a method to work and feel really bad after discrovering it is years (probably) away, complain about their look, the way the society are seeing them, etc.
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cal
04.05.2008, 19:32
@ LatinLover
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When come HM????? |
If the drug/dermabrasion combination can work with any reasonable safety, then I will have hair back.
The FDA can refuse to approve the process for several years, and I can also refuse to listen to the FDA. The drugs are out there. Anyone can get the skin work done.
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debris
06.05.2008, 15:37
(edited by debris, 06.05.2008, 15:43)
@ cal
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When come HM????? |
chance of this happening is less than 10% and here I'm being an optimist.
Statistically, the probability is almost zero (if you count number of treatments that work superior on mice and then work also in humans you'll get pretty much everything vs nothing scenario)
» If the drug/dermabrasion combination can work with any reasonable safety,
» then I will have hair back.
»
» The FDA can refuse to approve the process for several years, and I can
» also refuse to listen to the FDA. The drugs are out there. Anyone can get
» the skin work done.
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baldbaby
06.05.2008, 16:57
@ Stevi
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When come HM????? |
» Hi!
» Iam from europe(germany),and I have a great interest to
» Hair-Multiplication.
» Can you gave me some Infos about HM,and when we can get???
» Thanks and best wishes...
basically, we will know within 5 years whether hm will become available within 5 more years from that date... in other words, 10 years total. 5 years of waiting for a 'definitive' announcement from ICX or ARI, and then another 5 years of waiting for the actual release. So it's 10 years... 10 bloody years of waiting!!
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fckhrls
06.05.2008, 17:42
@ baldbaby
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When come HM????? |
» » Hi!
» » Iam from europe(germany),and I have a great interest to
» » Hair-Multiplication.
» » Can you gave me some Infos about HM,and when we can get???
» » Thanks and best wishes...
»
» basically, we will know within 5 years whether hm will become available
» within 5 more years from that date... in other words, 10 years total. 5
» years of waiting for a 'definitive' announcement from ICX or ARI, and then
» another 5 years of waiting for the actual release. So it's 10 years... 10
» bloody years of waiting!!
Not neccessarily. We will know within 2 years whether or not Follica works. If it does, it will be available shortly after that (if you believe it won't need FDA approval). I'd say 5 years at the earliest, 10 at the latest. Lets not forget that some more effective antiandrogens may come along, or some other pharmacological solution may happen. I think we will most certainly have a cure within 15 years.
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goata007
06.05.2008, 18:07
@ fckhrls
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When come HM????? |
» Not neccessarily. We will know within 2 years whether or not Follica
» works. If it does, it will be available shortly after that (if you believe
» it won't need FDA approval). I'd say 5 years at the earliest, 10 at the
» latest.
If its works and FDA approval isn't required, then definitely within 2 years...I can't think of any rational reason for the 5-10 years prediction.
» Lets not forget that some more effective antiandrogens may come
» along, or some other pharmacological solution may happen.
Even a potent anti-androgen like dutas doesn't help much so tinkering with hormones is pretty much useless. The ultimate treatment will have something to do with regeneration either via DP, WNT or something else.
» I think we will most certainly have a cure within 15 years.
I'll bet the rest of my life's salary on a good treatment within 5 years!
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"If we knew what it was that we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein |
goata007
06.05.2008, 18:15
@ debris
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When come HM????? |
» chance of this happening is less than 10% and here I'm being an optimist.
10% makes it sound like Follica is bunch of idiots just messing around with pathways and if they found the right one, we'll see some regrowth. The science behind follica is completely different then the science behind other hairloss treatments/drugs, so we really can't apply statstics from older research here. I understand that this is an unchartered terrority, however, human body has a remarkable regeneration capability given the right healing pathways are activated or deactivated. This is exactly what they are doing, sort of controlled damage to the scalp so that the body will start repairing it self.
» Statistically, the probability is almost zero (if you count number of
» treatments that work superior on mice and then work also in humans you'll
» get pretty much everything vs nothing scenario)
Statistically, we can never live on mars....because we never have previously, basically using statistics to a hair loss treatment is pretty much useless.
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fckhrls
06.05.2008, 21:20
@ goata007
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When come HM????? |
»
» Even a potent anti-androgen like dutas doesn't help much so tinkering with
» hormones is pretty much useless. The ultimate treatment will have something
» to do with regeneration either via DP, WNT or something else.
»
» » I think we will most certainly have a cure within 15 years.
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» I'll bet the rest of my life's salary on a good treatment within 5 years!
A topical, potent antiadrogen could effectively stop hair loss for many. For those that are just starting to lose their hair, something like that could buy them a decade or more (during which time something else will certainly develop, meaning they would never have to lose any hair at all). For those who are already bald, you're right, it wouldn't do much.
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Stevi
07.05.2008, 05:47
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When come HM????? |
Latest 10 years.It is a good news,bettet then never.sorry,my english
Are you to be certain???
Is Follic. start this summer trials at humans,and when start intercytex trial 3 at humans.
How is the leader in this game???
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bug2
18.06.2008, 05:08
@ Stevi
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When come HM????? |
» Latest 10 years.It is a good news,bettet then never.sorry,my english
» Are you to be certain???
» Is Follic. start this summer trials at humans,and when start intercytex
» trial 3 at humans.
» How is the leader in this game???
he is ole you are sven
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