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bigmac

01.05.2008, 13:51

Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group (Hair Transplant)
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Hi all.

This is my HT journey.

I flew from Newcastle airport on Saturday morning to Amsterdam with KLM which took one hour. Then it was a direct flight to Minneapolis with NWA which took eight hours.

Arrived at the airport at 3.30pm, went through customs and got the hotel shuttle (mini bus) to the hotel which took about 20 minutes. The hotel was the Country Inn and Suites. This is a nice hotel and is five minutes from Shapiro Medical Group. One extra bonus the hotel had was free use of computers with internet access. It cost me �637 all in with flight and accommodations for three nights.

There are quite a few sports bars and restaurants a few minutes walk from the hotel and a downtown area which has loads of bars, restaurants, shops etc.

I also visited the Mall of America which is a huge shopping centre full of everything you need. It�s one of the biggest malls in the world. The hotel shuttle will take you to and from the airport, Mall of America and to SMG as a free service. The hotel is used to SMG patients and the shuttle bus drivers too. They were all very friendly. The hotel gives discounts to SMG patients. The discount rate is $99 per night.

Met Janna on Sunday for lunch and she showed me around the downtown areas. There are two downtowns. One is Minneapolis and the other is St. Paul. The two cities are close within 15 minutes drive of each other. The center of the 2 downtown has skyways � walkways from building to building above the streets so you don�t have to go outside in bad weather. They were both beautiful clean cities.

Monday morning Janna picked me up and took me to SMG. I met Dr Shapiro and we talked about my expectations and he examined my hair. Then I was in the chair. Got my anesthetic needles in my scalp which I never felt a thing as they use a vibrating tool. Dr Shapiro removed my strip and then the techs starting the cutting while I was being sutured up and then Dr Shapiro made the incisions for my new hair. When about 90% of the incisions were made, they used a dye onto my recipient area for them to see the incisions better. They save the other 10% to be used for fine tuning at the end. They were also taking estimates of how many grafts were to be expect every half hours or so.

Janna and the other techs then started to plant with Dr Shapiro checking all the time as my crown planting was not straight forward due to my previous poor work which left plugs in there growing in the wrong directions. My crown work went great and then they proceeded to plant in the middle of my hairline. Janna planted every single graft in the hairline. Then towards the end, Dr. Shapiro and Janna did the stick/plant method to fine tune the hairline. This is where Dr. Shapiro makes the incision and Janna plants straight away after each incision is made. They said once the incisions are filled with grafts, you can see spaces in between, so Dr. Shapiro always asks for single hairs to be saved for this part.

Photos were taken at every opportunity by Janna and Dr Shapiro.

Once finished I was shown the work and asked if I was happy which I was.

Went back to the hotel and logged on the net and chilled out for the night. I took two Vicodin for pain before I went to bed, woke up fine and didn�t need any more pain relief meds. I took two though just before my plane journey home to be safe.

Next day Tuesday, checked out of hotel and went to SMG for a hair wash and haircut. They took more photos and a video of the work.

Janna and Dr Shapiro chatted with me again to confirm I was happy. I then hung around and was invited to watch a live surgery of planting and cutting grafts which was very interesting. They were very professional and great at what they were doing.

I would without any doubt say that if you choose to have a HT with SMG that you will have a great experience and receive a world class result.

I flew home at 7.30 pm on Tuesday. I took some valium on the plane and slept most of the way back to Amsterdam. Then the short one hour flight back to Newcastle.

Now sitting at home happy as can be thanks to SMG.

Will sort photos soon.

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HairSite

01.05.2008, 13:59

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Thanks for the update. Would love to see your pictures. Please upload pictures whenever they are ready. If you prefer, you can email me the pics at hairsite@aol.com

Will create a personal journal for you to document the progress once I have the pictures.

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johnp

01.05.2008, 15:13

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Why flew all the way to the US for strip? There are good strip doctors in Europe for sure. What about HDC, Bisanga, Mwamba etc?

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Wylie

02.05.2008, 00:48

@ johnp
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� Why flew all the way to the US for strip? There are good strip doctors in
� Europe for sure. What about HDC, Bisanga, Mwamba etc?

I believe he was butchered in Europe and his research led him to the United States, a smart move on his part. Limited donor means less chances to get it right. Shapiro is one of the best in the business for strip.

Cant wait to see your pics. I have flown from Chicago to Amsterdam on KLM before, thats a long flight. Defintely Valium time for that flight.

Sounds like all went well, glad to hear that.

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bigmac

02.05.2008, 11:53

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Hi all
I flew to the States as thats where all my years of reseaerch took me.
I chose a few docs to research extensively into and Smg could fit me in when i wanted to go.
I have had a world class HT and i`m very happy
Here are a few pics until i can sort more.
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HairSite

02.05.2008, 11:56

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Bigmac,

My apologies for the delay. Believe me, I was just about to upload your pictures when I saw your post.

Anyway, glad that the pictures are showing up in your post finally. There is, however, one picture that didn't make it, can you post the exact link for this picture so that I can take care of that for you?

It's the picture with this filename: rownpo.jpg

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bigmac

02.05.2008, 17:47

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Hi hairsite
Did you get the rest of the pictures i emailed you
Thanks.

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Steve78

02.05.2008, 21:59

@ bigmac
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How many grafts did you have?

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HairSite

02.05.2008, 23:57

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bigmac

03.05.2008, 06:10

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Thanks Hairsite for posting those additional photos.
I will update at 1 week and then pictures of my scar when the sutures are removed.
Its all looking very good.

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bigmac

03.05.2008, 07:47

@ bigmac
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Hi Steve 78

Just seen your question

I had 250 or 350 grafts in the hairline ,i will check exactly and the rest went into my crown.
Here is my graft count.

1s-285

2s-907

3s-399

4s-23

1614grafts =3388 hairs

strip size was 1.3width by 16.5cm length

My graft count would have been higher but a certain greek fue clinic wasted these precious babies in my donor area.
You can see there fue scars on one of the pictures.

I`m happy now though :-)

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hair911

03.05.2008, 10:27

@ bigmac
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� Hi Steve 78
�
� Just seen your question
�
� I had 250 or 350 grafts in the hairline ,i will check exactly and the rest
� went into my crown.
� Here is my graft count.
�
� 1s-285
�
� 2s-907
�
� 3s-399
�
� 4s-23
�
� 1614grafts =3388 hairs
�
� strip size was 1.3width by 16.5cm length
�
� My graft count would have been higher but a certain greek fue clinic
� wasted these precious babies in my donor area.
� You can see there fue scars on one of the pictures.
�
� I`m happy now though :-)

So you had fue before and now you decided to go to strip?

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bigmac

03.05.2008, 12:53

@ hair911
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Yes i`ve had two small strip ,then fue and back to strip with trico closure.

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hair911

03.05.2008, 12:56

@ bigmac
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� Yes i`ve had two small strip ,then fue and back to strip with trico
� closure.

Which one do you prefer? Do you find that strip gives better results? It seems that way according to forum pics.

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bigmac

03.05.2008, 15:58

@ hair911
Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group
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HI Hair 911
Both strip and fue will give great results.
My fue was poor as i chose a poor clinic in Greece to do the work and my previous two strips were with Norton in England which were poor choices as well.
In my opinion depending on your loss and donor supply strip is the way to go first until its no longer viable and then to go fue.
This is my personal view due to years of research.

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HairSite

03.05.2008, 16:24

@ hair911
Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group
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� � Yes i`ve had two small strip ,then fue and back to strip with trico
� � closure.
�
� Which one do you prefer? Do you find that strip gives better results? It
� seems that way according to forum pics.

STRIP and FUE are both donor harvesting technique. It should not affect the final result except for the donor site.

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03.05.2008, 16:42

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� Yes i`ve had two small strip ,then fue and back to strip with trico
� closure.

Bigmac,

That was Triclosure that Dr. Shapiro did for you?

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bigmac

05.05.2008, 07:55

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�
� Bigmac,
�
� That was Triclosure that Dr. Shapiro did for you?

Hi Hairsite
It was triclosure with sutures and its looking great already.Will post some pics as soon as the sutures are out.

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Steve78

06.05.2008, 12:40

@ HairSite
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The strip looks brutal, how much pain are we talking about here?

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HanginInThere

06.05.2008, 12:44

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why would anyone do strip nowadays
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at first i saw some of the recip photos, looks great, then i saw a huge stiched scar, i thought my god

with the propensity of scars to stretch and all the horror stories, why would anyone do strip nowadays

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craig

06.05.2008, 14:52

@ HanginInThere
why would anyone do strip nowadays
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� at first i saw some of the recip photos, looks great, then i saw a huge
� stiched scar, i thought my god
�
� with the propensity of scars to stretch and all the horror stories, why
� would anyone do strip nowadays

My sentiment exactly. I really dont think I could find the courage to put myself through this. FUE and BHT are not perfect either, some pics are so-so at best, not to mention the price tag. This is a losing battle for us without HM

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Mr. Frodo

06.05.2008, 23:25

@ bigmac
Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group
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� �
� � Bigmac,
� �
� � That was Triclosure that Dr. Shapiro did for you?
�
� Hi Hairsite
� It was triclosure with sutures and its looking great already.Will post
� some pics as soon as the sutures are out.

u r the first person i know who went back to strip after having both strip n fue done.

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bigmac

07.05.2008, 16:42

@ Mr. Frodo
Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group
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Hi guys
I wanted my HT documented as much as possible to show people exactly whats involved.

Steve78. I was in no pain whatsoever during surgery and a little discomfort with a mild ache after surgery.The pain meds take care of everything.

HanginInThere The scar looks worse than it is. Dr Ron and Dr Paul Shapiro are up there with the best HT doctors in the world and the trico closure they do is great.I had inner sutures which are dissolvable and the outer ones are nylon sutures.Horror stories usually occur when a poor choice in doctor is made but i done three years of research after my earlier mistakes.

Craig i can honestly say it was a walk in the park for me to have this done.
As for doing strip as opposed to fue,they both produce great results in the right hands.A lot of people including doctors believe there is a much higher graft survival rate with strip.

Mr Frodo,i know quite a few who have gone fue then strip but its all down to each patients individual needs and there donor supply etc.

I will be having my sutures removed tomorrow and will post before and after pictures of the scar.I am very confident in the ability of the doctor i chose and believe once healed my scar will be barely visible.

Thanks all Bri.

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reiner

08.05.2008, 10:58

@ bigmac
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Gr8t documentation, I wish ppl post as much details as you did. Can you tell me how many grafts in total you have done so far (sorry if you already answered that) and did Shapiro say roughly how many more you can spare in your donor for the future?

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bigmac

09.05.2008, 06:12

@ reiner
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Hi reiner
I`m trying to document it as clear as possible to show others what a strip HT entails and howgood the work is when done by a top doctor.

My donor is still good and i have plenty left if needed.I will ask howmuch i have left and let you know.
Here is my graft count as i forgot to add this.
Graft count

1-285

2-907

3-399

4-23

1614grafts =3388 hairs

I will hopefully add my scar pictures today as i had my sutures removed yesterday.

strip size was 1.3width by 16.5cm length

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bigmac

13.05.2008, 06:56

@ bigmac
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Here are some 10 day post op scar pictures.Hairsite if you want to convert these into pics that would be great.
The first two are just before the sutures were removed and the third just after.The scar is looking and feeling great.

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HairSite

13.05.2008, 10:11

@ bigmac
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� Here are some 10 day post op scar pictures.Hairsite if you want to convert
� these into pics that would be great.

All taken care of. Thanks for the CLEAR photos.

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johnp

13.05.2008, 11:17

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This is a strip, why are there red dots in the last pic?

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bigmac

13.05.2008, 15:10

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� This is a strip, why are there red dots in the last pic?

Hi the red dots are the holes where the sutures/stitches were and when i post pictures in a few weeks after my haircut they will be gone.

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bigmac

17.05.2008, 17:58

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I`m interested to see that none of the fue only clinics/doctors have commented on my scar.

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bigmac

22.05.2008, 15:22

@ bigmac
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� I`m interested to see that none of the fue only clinics/doctors have
� commented on my scar.

Still no comment

Hmmmmmmm

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bigmac

26.05.2008, 14:35
(edited by bigmac, 26.05.2008, 14:41)

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error please delete

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bigmac 01.05.2008, 13:51	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group (Hair Transplant) Post reply
	Hi all. This is my HT journey. I flew from Newcastle airport on Saturday morning to Amsterdam with KLM which took one hour. Then it was a direct flight to Minneapolis with NWA which took eight hours. Arrived at the airport at 3.30pm, went through customs and got the hotel shuttle (mini bus) to the hotel which took about 20 minutes. The hotel was the Country Inn and Suites. This is a nice hotel and is five minutes from Shapiro Medical Group. One extra bonus the hotel had was free use of computers with internet access. It cost me �637 all in with flight and accommodations for three nights. There are quite a few sports bars and restaurants a few minutes walk from the hotel and a downtown area which has loads of bars, restaurants, shops etc. I also visited the Mall of America which is a huge shopping centre full of everything you need. It�s one of the biggest malls in the world. The hotel shuttle will take you to and from the airport, Mall of America and to SMG as a free service. The hotel is used to SMG patients and the shuttle bus drivers too. They were all very friendly. The hotel gives discounts to SMG patients. The discount rate is $99 per night. Met Janna on Sunday for lunch and she showed me around the downtown areas. There are two downtowns. One is Minneapolis and the other is St. Paul. The two cities are close within 15 minutes drive of each other. The center of the 2 downtown has skyways � walkways from building to building above the streets so you don�t have to go outside in bad weather. They were both beautiful clean cities. Monday morning Janna picked me up and took me to SMG. I met Dr Shapiro and we talked about my expectations and he examined my hair. Then I was in the chair. Got my anesthetic needles in my scalp which I never felt a thing as they use a vibrating tool. Dr Shapiro removed my strip and then the techs starting the cutting while I was being sutured up and then Dr Shapiro made the incisions for my new hair. When about 90% of the incisions were made, they used a dye onto my recipient area for them to see the incisions better. They save the other 10% to be used for fine tuning at the end. They were also taking estimates of how many grafts were to be expect every half hours or so. Janna and the other techs then started to plant with Dr Shapiro checking all the time as my crown planting was not straight forward due to my previous poor work which left plugs in there growing in the wrong directions. My crown work went great and then they proceeded to plant in the middle of my hairline. Janna planted every single graft in the hairline. Then towards the end, Dr. Shapiro and Janna did the stick/plant method to fine tune the hairline. This is where Dr. Shapiro makes the incision and Janna plants straight away after each incision is made. They said once the incisions are filled with grafts, you can see spaces in between, so Dr. Shapiro always asks for single hairs to be saved for this part. Photos were taken at every opportunity by Janna and Dr Shapiro. Once finished I was shown the work and asked if I was happy which I was. Went back to the hotel and logged on the net and chilled out for the night. I took two Vicodin for pain before I went to bed, woke up fine and didn�t need any more pain relief meds. I took two though just before my plane journey home to be safe. Next day Tuesday, checked out of hotel and went to SMG for a hair wash and haircut. They took more photos and a video of the work. Janna and Dr Shapiro chatted with me again to confirm I was happy. I then hung around and was invited to watch a live surgery of planting and cutting grafts which was very interesting. They were very professional and great at what they were doing. I would without any doubt say that if you choose to have a HT with SMG that you will have a great experience and receive a world class result. I flew home at 7.30 pm on Tuesday. I took some valium on the plane and slept most of the way back to Amsterdam. Then the short one hour flight back to Newcastle. Now sitting at home happy as can be thanks to SMG. Will sort photos soon. bigmac is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
HairSite 01.05.2008, 13:59 @ bigmac	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	Thanks for the update. Would love to see your pictures. Please upload pictures whenever they are ready. If you prefer, you can email me the pics at hairsite@aol.com Will create a personal journal for you to document the progress once I have the pictures. HairSite is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- HairSite.com email: hairsite@aol.com for a free consultation ===================================== reminder: 1. Help China Earthquake Victims 2. Free hair replacement system for men & women
johnp 01.05.2008, 15:13 @ bigmac	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	Why flew all the way to the US for strip? There are good strip doctors in Europe for sure. What about HDC, Bisanga, Mwamba etc? johnp is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
Wylie 02.05.2008, 00:48 @ johnp	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	� Why flew all the way to the US for strip? There are good strip doctors in � Europe for sure. What about HDC, Bisanga, Mwamba etc? I believe he was butchered in Europe and his research led him to the United States, a smart move on his part. Limited donor means less chances to get it right. Shapiro is one of the best in the business for strip. Cant wait to see your pics. I have flown from Chicago to Amsterdam on KLM before, thats a long flight. Defintely Valium time for that flight. Sounds like all went well, glad to hear that. Wylie is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
bigmac 02.05.2008, 11:53 @ bigmac	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	Hi all I flew to the States as thats where all my years of reseaerch took me. I chose a few docs to research extensively into and Smg could fit me in when i wanted to go. I have had a world class HT and i`m very happy Here are a few pics until i can sort more. bigmac is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
HairSite 02.05.2008, 11:56 @ bigmac	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	Bigmac, My apologies for the delay. Believe me, I was just about to upload your pictures when I saw your post. Anyway, glad that the pictures are showing up in your post finally. There is, however, one picture that didn't make it, can you post the exact link for this picture so that I can take care of that for you? It's the picture with this filename: rownpo.jpg HairSite is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- HairSite.com email: hairsite@aol.com for a free consultation ===================================== reminder: 1. Help China Earthquake Victims 2. Free hair replacement system for men & women
bigmac 02.05.2008, 17:47 @ HairSite	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	Hi hairsite Did you get the rest of the pictures i emailed you Thanks. bigmac is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
Steve78 02.05.2008, 21:59 @ bigmac	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	How many grafts did you have? Steve78 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
HairSite 02.05.2008, 23:57 @ bigmac	more photos Post reply
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bigmac 03.05.2008, 06:10 @ bigmac	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	Thanks Hairsite for posting those additional photos. I will update at 1 week and then pictures of my scar when the sutures are removed. Its all looking very good. bigmac is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
bigmac 03.05.2008, 07:47 @ bigmac	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	Hi Steve 78 Just seen your question I had 250 or 350 grafts in the hairline ,i will check exactly and the rest went into my crown. Here is my graft count. 1s-285 2s-907 3s-399 4s-23 1614grafts =3388 hairs strip size was 1.3width by 16.5cm length My graft count would have been higher but a certain greek fue clinic wasted these precious babies in my donor area. You can see there fue scars on one of the pictures. I`m happy now though bigmac is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
hair911 03.05.2008, 10:27 @ bigmac	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	� Hi Steve 78 � � Just seen your question � � I had 250 or 350 grafts in the hairline ,i will check exactly and the rest � went into my crown. � Here is my graft count. � � 1s-285 � � 2s-907 � � 3s-399 � � 4s-23 � � 1614grafts =3388 hairs � � strip size was 1.3width by 16.5cm length � � My graft count would have been higher but a certain greek fue clinic � wasted these precious babies in my donor area. � You can see there fue scars on one of the pictures. � � I`m happy now though So you had fue before and now you decided to go to strip? hair911 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- 26 y.o. Baldspot. No hair, no griffriend, no life. I will model for any doctor who gives me a free hair transplant.
bigmac 03.05.2008, 12:53 @ hair911	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	Yes i`ve had two small strip ,then fue and back to strip with trico closure. bigmac is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
hair911 03.05.2008, 12:56 @ bigmac	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	� Yes i`ve had two small strip ,then fue and back to strip with trico � closure. Which one do you prefer? Do you find that strip gives better results? It seems that way according to forum pics. hair911 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- 26 y.o. Baldspot. No hair, no griffriend, no life. I will model for any doctor who gives me a free hair transplant.
bigmac 03.05.2008, 15:58 @ hair911	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	HI Hair 911 Both strip and fue will give great results. My fue was poor as i chose a poor clinic in Greece to do the work and my previous two strips were with Norton in England which were poor choices as well. In my opinion depending on your loss and donor supply strip is the way to go first until its no longer viable and then to go fue. This is my personal view due to years of research. bigmac is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
HairSite 03.05.2008, 16:24 @ hair911	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	� � Yes i`ve had two small strip ,then fue and back to strip with trico � � closure. � � Which one do you prefer? Do you find that strip gives better results? It � seems that way according to forum pics. STRIP and FUE are both donor harvesting technique. It should not affect the final result except for the donor site. HairSite is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- HairSite.com email: hairsite@aol.com for a free consultation ===================================== reminder: 1. Help China Earthquake Victims 2. Free hair replacement system for men & women
HairSite 03.05.2008, 16:42 @ bigmac	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	� Yes i`ve had two small strip ,then fue and back to strip with trico � closure. Bigmac, That was Triclosure that Dr. Shapiro did for you? HairSite is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- HairSite.com email: hairsite@aol.com for a free consultation ===================================== reminder: 1. Help China Earthquake Victims 2. Free hair replacement system for men & women
bigmac 05.05.2008, 07:55 @ HairSite	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	� � Bigmac, � � That was Triclosure that Dr. Shapiro did for you? Hi Hairsite It was triclosure with sutures and its looking great already.Will post some pics as soon as the sutures are out. bigmac is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
Steve78 06.05.2008, 12:40 @ HairSite	more photos Post reply
	The strip looks brutal, how much pain are we talking about here? Steve78 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
HanginInThere 06.05.2008, 12:44 @ HairSite	why would anyone do strip nowadays Post reply
	at first i saw some of the recip photos, looks great, then i saw a huge stiched scar, i thought my god with the propensity of scars to stretch and all the horror stories, why would anyone do strip nowadays HanginInThere is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
craig 06.05.2008, 14:52 @ HanginInThere	why would anyone do strip nowadays Post reply
	� at first i saw some of the recip photos, looks great, then i saw a huge � stiched scar, i thought my god � � with the propensity of scars to stretch and all the horror stories, why � would anyone do strip nowadays My sentiment exactly. I really dont think I could find the courage to put myself through this. FUE and BHT are not perfect either, some pics are so-so at best, not to mention the price tag. This is a losing battle for us without HM craig is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
Mr. Frodo 06.05.2008, 23:25 @ bigmac	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	� � � � Bigmac, � � � � That was Triclosure that Dr. Shapiro did for you? � � Hi Hairsite � It was triclosure with sutures and its looking great already.Will post � some pics as soon as the sutures are out. u r the first person i know who went back to strip after having both strip n fue done. Mr. Frodo is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
bigmac 07.05.2008, 16:42 @ Mr. Frodo	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	Hi guys I wanted my HT documented as much as possible to show people exactly whats involved. Steve78. I was in no pain whatsoever during surgery and a little discomfort with a mild ache after surgery.The pain meds take care of everything. HanginInThere The scar looks worse than it is. Dr Ron and Dr Paul Shapiro are up there with the best HT doctors in the world and the trico closure they do is great.I had inner sutures which are dissolvable and the outer ones are nylon sutures.Horror stories usually occur when a poor choice in doctor is made but i done three years of research after my earlier mistakes. Craig i can honestly say it was a walk in the park for me to have this done. As for doing strip as opposed to fue,they both produce great results in the right hands.A lot of people including doctors believe there is a much higher graft survival rate with strip. Mr Frodo,i know quite a few who have gone fue then strip but its all down to each patients individual needs and there donor supply etc. I will be having my sutures removed tomorrow and will post before and after pictures of the scar.I am very confident in the ability of the doctor i chose and believe once healed my scar will be barely visible. Thanks all Bri. bigmac is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
reiner 08.05.2008, 10:58 @ bigmac	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	Gr8t documentation, I wish ppl post as much details as you did. Can you tell me how many grafts in total you have done so far (sorry if you already answered that) and did Shapiro say roughly how many more you can spare in your donor for the future? reiner is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
bigmac 09.05.2008, 06:12 @ reiner	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	Hi reiner I`m trying to document it as clear as possible to show others what a strip HT entails and howgood the work is when done by a top doctor. My donor is still good and i have plenty left if needed.I will ask howmuch i have left and let you know. Here is my graft count as i forgot to add this. Graft count 1-285 2-907 3-399 4-23 1614grafts =3388 hairs I will hopefully add my scar pictures today as i had my sutures removed yesterday. strip size was 1.3width by 16.5cm length bigmac is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
bigmac 13.05.2008, 06:56 @ bigmac	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	Here are some 10 day post op scar pictures.Hairsite if you want to convert these into pics that would be great. The first two are just before the sutures were removed and the third just after.The scar is looking and feeling great. bigmac is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
HairSite 13.05.2008, 10:11 @ bigmac	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	� Here are some 10 day post op scar pictures.Hairsite if you want to convert � these into pics that would be great. All taken care of. Thanks for the CLEAR photos. HairSite is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- HairSite.com email: hairsite@aol.com for a free consultation ===================================== reminder: 1. Help China Earthquake Victims 2. Free hair replacement system for men & women
johnp 13.05.2008, 11:17 @ bigmac	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	This is a strip, why are there red dots in the last pic? johnp is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
bigmac 13.05.2008, 15:10 @ johnp	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	� This is a strip, why are there red dots in the last pic? Hi the red dots are the holes where the sutures/stitches were and when i post pictures in a few weeks after my haircut they will be gone. bigmac is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
bigmac 17.05.2008, 17:58 @ bigmac	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	I`m interested to see that none of the fue only clinics/doctors have commented on my scar. bigmac is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
bigmac 22.05.2008, 15:22 @ bigmac	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	� I`m interested to see that none of the fue only clinics/doctors have � commented on my scar. Still no comment Hmmmmmmm bigmac is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
bigmac 26.05.2008, 14:35 (edited by bigmac, 26.05.2008, 14:41) @ bigmac	Bigmacs HT #4 with Shapiro Medical Group Post reply
	error please delete bigmac is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

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