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Dr Umar   Redondo Beach, California, 04.05.2008, 03:45 (edited by Dr Umar, 04.05.2008, 04:11)	9 Month Update, 15,000+ Graft to NW6, BHT/FUE, -KF (Hair Transplant) Post reply
	Patient KF came for a follow up with a shorter haircut at the 9 month mark. His case had been discussed on previous threads at 5 months since his surgery: http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-20610.html Relevant excerpts from previous introduction: Graft Breakdown: Beard: 6250 Head donor: 3617 Legs/thighs: 2528 Chest: 1647 Abdominal Areas: 900 Arms: 531 Goal: 1. Coverage of the entire NW6 area (crown included) to a NW 0-1 hairline. 2. The ability to maintain a shorter hair cut without worrying about visible scars (seen in strip HT). 3. Donor preservation: The ability to harvest donor areas in the future should the need arises, in event of progression to NW 7 and beyond. Over harvesting of head donors is to be avoided. 4. The absence of cosmetically significant body scarring. Here are photo updates taken recently at the 9th month mark: The Hairline ...... ...... …………. ...... Top ... ………….. ... Crown …………… ...... 9-MONTH COLLECTION There has been a further improvement in density at the 9th month that allows the patient to cut the hair in the transplanted area shorter than he could at the 5 month mark. S. Umar, M.D., FAAD DermHair Clinic Redondo Beach, California +1-310-318-1500 1-877-DERMHAIR (US residents) info@dermhairclinic.com WEBSITE www.dermhairclinic.com Single Follicle Extraction & Transfer (SFET) Using Head and Body hair For more SFET-FUE and BHT results go to www.dermhairclinic.com Dr Umar is located in REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA and he is available to meet: NO
HanginInThere 04.05.2008, 09:22 @ Dr Umar	9 Month Update, 15,000+ Graft to NW6, BHT/FUE, -KF Post reply
	i think in some cases the body hair looks great, in this case personally he looked better before the transplant then again if the patient is happy thats all that matters HanginInThere is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
Dr Umar   Redondo Beach, California, 04.05.2008, 13:04 @ Dr Umar	Hairline close up Post reply
	At 9 months S. Umar, M.D., FAAD DermHair Clinic Redondo Beach, California +1-310-318-1500 1-877-DERMHAIR (US residents) info@dermhairclinic.com WEBSITE www.dermhairclinic.com Single Follicle Extraction & Transfer (SFET) Using Head and Body hair For more SFET-FUE and BHT results go to www.dermhairclinic.com Dr Umar is located in REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA and he is available to meet: NO
scarred5 04.05.2008, 13:47 @ Dr Umar	Hairline close up Post reply
	» At 9 months » » » » » S. Umar, M.D., FAAD » DermHair Clinic » Redondo Beach, California » +1-310-318-1500 » 1-877-DERMHAIR (US residents) » info@dermhairclinic.com » WEBSITE www.dermhairclinic.com » Single Follicle Extraction & Transfer (SFET) » Using Head and Body hair » » For more SFET-FUE and BHT results go to www.dermhairclinic.com once again a huge improvement using a combo of donor hairs, this chap could not be helped using traditional donor areas because hairloss was clearly extensive, and i think the guy looks way better and younger as a result of his work, looks great very lucky guy, he is only at 9 months, i believe he will continue to improve scarred5 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
HanginInThere 04.05.2008, 13:52 @ scarred5	Hairline close up Post reply
	» » At 9 months » » » » » » » » » » » S. Umar, M.D., FAAD » » DermHair Clinic » » Redondo Beach, California » » +1-310-318-1500 » » 1-877-DERMHAIR (US residents) » » info@dermhairclinic.com » » WEBSITE www.dermhairclinic.com » » Single Follicle Extraction & Transfer (SFET) » » Using Head and Body hair » » » » For more SFET-FUE and BHT results go to www.dermhairclinic.com » » » » once again a huge improvement using a combo of donor hairs, this chap » could not be helped using traditional donor areas because hairloss was » clearly extensive, and i think the guy looks way better and younger as a » result of his work, looks great very lucky guy, he is only at 9 months, i » believe he will continue to improve i agree that the guy has a lot more hair do you really think it looks natural? after the transplant look at his hair, as if you just saw the guy in an elevator................you wouldnt do a double take? to me it looks very odd, a bit like a toupee , the hair line. and the beard hair or something is the grey ones, they look very odd, out of place, too thick as opposed to the surrounding hair. Maybe if he died all his hair one color , and it grows in a bit it will look better, but to me this guys hair looks very strange Dont get me wrong Dr Umar does great work, the hairline does look natural when combed back but from above and back those shots to me the hair looks extremely unnatural, I would think the guy had a toupee on or had a transplant this is not the case for most of the Umar transplants I have seen, but for 15000 grafts, to me this result does not impress HanginInThere is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
Keepitshorter 04.05.2008, 15:28 @ HanginInThere	9 Month Update, 15,000+ Graft to NW6, BHT/FUE, -KF Post reply
	» i think in some cases the body hair looks great, in this case personally he » looked better before the transplant » » then again if the patient is happy thats all that matters Of course his hair is not going to look as it would if all scalp hair, or any in his case, could have been used but evidently he didn't have any. I am sure he was aware that what hair he did have available would not appear as thick as scalp hair. I don't think it looks unnatural at all. Of course you can see that it is thin, but that's to be expected with the degree of balding that he suffered. It looks as if Dr. Umar replicated the natural whorl pattern of the crown very nicely. If this patient decided to color his hair darker it might even give the illusion of more thickness. As we all know, that's one aspect of a hair transplant--an illusion. For someone as bald as he was I'm sure he did not expect his hair to be as thick as a rug--even if he had scalp hair to use. The point is he had a successful BH transplant, and used what he had available to improve his situation, and like you said, if he is happy with his results that all that matters. Keepitshorter is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
HanginInThere 04.05.2008, 15:31 @ Keepitshorter	9 Month Update, 15,000+ Graft to NW6, BHT/FUE, -KF Post reply
	» » i think in some cases the body hair looks great, in this case personally » he » » looked better before the transplant » » » » then again if the patient is happy thats all that matters » » Of course his hair is not going to look as it would if all scalp hair, or » any in his case, could have been used but evidently he didn't have any. I » am sure he was aware that what hair he did have available would not appear » as thick as scalp hair. » » I don't think it looks unnatural at all. Of course you can see that it is » thin, but that's to be expected with the degree of balding that he » suffered. It looks as if Dr. Umar replicated the natural whorl pattern of » the crown very nicely. If this patient decided to color his hair darker it » might even give the illusion of more thickness. » » As we all know, that's one aspect of a hair transplant--an illusion. For » someone as bald as he was I'm sure he did not expect his hair to be as » thick as a rug--even if he had scalp hair to use. » » The point is he had a successful BH transplant, and used what he had » available to improve his situation, and like you said, if he is happy with » his results that all that matters. i will admit that Dr umar seems to be able to get body hair to grow consistently, which was certainly not the case with some of the early body hair results we saw, from various docs HanginInThere is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
Hooray for Hair   Sydney, Australia, 04.05.2008, 18:34 (edited by Hooray for Hair, 04.05.2008, 18:39) @ HanginInThere	9 Month Update, 15,000+ Graft to NW6, BHT/FUE, -KF Post reply
	» i will admit that Dr umar seems to be able to get body hair to grow » consistently, You hit the nail on the head there, Hangin'. How many threads do we see completely denying any positive BHT results? All you have to do is look at Dr Umars consistent catalogue of BHT only patients, a list which is growing every day (pun sort-of intended) As for this guy, I think he looks great. Straight away, you see the difference between an older man and a younger guy, as with all successful transplants, which I'm sure is all that matters to the patient. I don't think it looks like a toupee at all; quite the contrary, the grey hairs are noticable but to me they enhance the reality. And as stated, he can always dye his hair if he wants. Good one, Dr U. Fantastic hairline work too. Hooray for Hair is located in SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA and he is available to meet: NO --- 3000 FUE Dr Umar Feel free to visit my website to share my Hair Transplant experience: www.hoorayforhair.com
Dr Umar   Redondo Beach, California, 04.05.2008, 18:58 (edited by Dr Umar, 04.05.2008, 19:45) @ HanginInThere	Hairline close up Post reply
	This patient looks very natural. There would be a video to illustrate this even further very soon. I am sure he gets second takes from people...however it is not for the reason you espoused. Rather it is the look of admiration, the type that we all like. His very rich social life speaks to this. To my understanding and actual observation, this patient who typically deals with a very discerning crowd has received nothing but accolades (an understatement). Body hair tends to be darker than head hair because it is usually covered and less subject to the elements. As the exposure to the elements increases with time, it tends to blend better with the pre-existing head hair. We can dye the hair to hasten the process or simply wait for it to occur naturally. At this time, that is the least of problems to the patient who looks much better and considerably much younger since his new hair started growing months ago. S. Umar, M.D., FAAD DermHair Clinic Redondo Beach, California +1-310-318-1500 1-877-DERMHAIR (US residents) info@dermhairclinic.com WEBSITE www.dermhairclinic.com Single Follicle Extraction & Transfer (SFET) Using Head and Body hair For more SFET-FUE and BHT results go to www.dermhairclinic.com Dr Umar is located in REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA and he is available to meet: NO
HairSite   04.05.2008, 19:08 @ Dr Umar	side-by-side photos Post reply
	HairSite is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
The Rooster 04.05.2008, 19:43 @ Dr Umar	Hairline close up Post reply
	As always nice work Dr. Umar. I see a definite improvement. The Rooster is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Four strips from 2001-2007. 3000 FUE scalp/BHT beard grafts from Dr. Umar late June 2008. (scar repair/hairline softening/crown whirl)
Steve78 04.05.2008, 20:47 @ Dr Umar	Beard hair supply Post reply
	» Graft Breakdown: » Beard: 6250 » Head donor: 3617 » Legs/thighs: 2528 » Chest: 1647 » Abdominal Areas: 900 » Arms: 531 Dr. Umar, can we really get that many beard hairs from a person? 6250? A typo perhaps? Steve78 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
Dr Umar   Redondo Beach, California, 04.05.2008, 21:08 @ Steve78	Beard hair supply Post reply
	» » Graft Breakdown: » » Beard: 6250 » » Head donor: 3617 » » Legs/thighs: 2528 » » Chest: 1647 » » Abdominal Areas: 900 » » Arms: 531 » » Dr. Umar, can we really get that many beard hairs from a person? 6250? A » typo perhaps? Steve, It is not a typo. We can actually get more with a 2nd harvest. In the instance of this patient we can get at least another 4000 if we decide to revisit the beard area. In another patient, we have thus far obtained about 9000+ beard grafts over the course of 3 surgeries. Also, in this patient, the head donor is barely touched. There is more head hair (at least 4000) to use at will in the future. The same goes for the body donor supply. Regards, S. Umar, M.D., FAAD DermHair Clinic Redondo Beach, California +1-310-318-1500 1-877-DERMHAIR (US residents) info@dermhairclinic.com WEBSITE www.dermhairclinic.com Single Follicle Extraction & Transfer (SFET) Using Head and Body hair For more SFET-FUE and BHT results go to www.dermhairclinic.com Dr Umar is located in REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA and he is available to meet: NO
johnp 04.05.2008, 22:16 @ Dr Umar	Beard hair supply Post reply
	» » » Graft Breakdown: » » » Beard: 6250 » » » Head donor: 3617 » » » Legs/thighs: 2528 » » » Chest: 1647 » » » Abdominal Areas: 900 » » » Arms: 531 » » » » Dr. Umar, can we really get that many beard hairs from a person? 6250? » A » » typo perhaps? » » Steve, » » It is not a typo. We can actually get more with a 2nd harvest. In the » instance of this patient we can get at least another 4000 if we decide to » revisit the beard area. In another patient, we have thus far obtained about » 9000+ beard grafts over the course of 3 surgeries. » » » Also, in this patient, the head donor is barely touched. There is more » head hair (at least 4000) to use at will in the future. The same goes for » the body donor supply. » » If this is true then it is good news although I find it hard to believe, you are saying some can spare almost 10,000 beard grafts? The surface area where you can extract beard grafts can't be greater than traditional scalp donor area. For traditional scalp donor area, the most I have heard is may be 5000 or 6000 grafts, how can you get 10,000 from beard? johnp is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
Dr Umar   Redondo Beach, California, 04.05.2008, 22:31 @ johnp	Beard hair supply Post reply
	» » If this is true then it is good news although I find it hard to believe, » you are saying some can spare almost 10,000 beard grafts? The surface area » where you can extract beard grafts can't be greater than traditional scalp » donor area. For traditional scalp donor area, the most I have heard is may » be 5000 or 6000 grafts, how can you get 10,000 from beard? John P Most of what has been stated is based on what has been achieved using SFET already...not speculations. Of course there is variation between individuals in beard hair density and distribution. Thus a blanket rule does not apply. Unlike head hair were donor preservation entails leaving behind as much hair behind as possible to maintain decent coverage on the back and sides of the head, in facial hair harvesting using the SFET protocol ALL visible hair has been removed with successive surgeries. Thus in some individuals, 6000-9000 grafts have been extracted successfully. Note that most beard hair follicles are singles while most head hair grafts are doubles and triples. Hence, 1,000 head derived grafts would still be worth much more than 1,000 beard hair in terms of coverage value. S. Umar, M.D., FAAD DermHair Clinic Redondo Beach, California +1-310-318-1500 1-877-DERMHAIR (US residents) info@dermhairclinic.com WEBSITE www.dermhairclinic.com Single Follicle Extraction & Transfer (SFET) Using Head and Body hair For more SFET-FUE and BHT results go to www.dermhairclinic.com Dr Umar is located in REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA and he is available to meet: NO
johnp 04.05.2008, 22:37 @ Dr Umar	Beard hair supply Post reply
	» Unlike head hair were donor preservation entails leaving behind as much » hair behind as possible to maintain decent coverage on the back and sides » of the head, in facial hair harvesting using the SFET protocol » ALL visible hair has been removed with successive surgeries. Thus in » some individuals, 6000-9000 grafts have been extracted successfully. OK I agree, I haven't thought about the need for donor preservation for scalp hair. johnp is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
scarred5 04.05.2008, 23:54 @ johnp	Beard hair supply Post reply
	» » Unlike head hair were donor preservation entails leaving behind as much » » hair behind as possible to maintain decent coverage on the back and » sides » » of the head, in facial hair harvesting using the SFET protocol » » ALL visible hair has been removed with successive surgeries. Thus » in » » some individuals, 6000-9000 grafts have been extracted successfully. » » OK I agree, I haven't thought about the need for donor preservation for » scalp hair. ah but the beard hair is coarser, i am in awe that that many beard hair are available, if we had known this yrs ago i could have saved so much of everything, to think he probably never has to shave his mug again, i think he should dye his hair blonde, is he intending to do more? i guess i was initially mistaken stating he had limited donor available, scarred5 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
ApeSmith 05.05.2008, 00:05 @ Dr Umar	Hairline close up Post reply
	He looks terrific. Only a bald, or balding man whos spend countless hours online researching every cause of hair loss and every method of hair growth ,would ever take a 'second look' at this guy at an elevator or anywhere else. We have formed a radar for this kind of stuff, so we might be able to look at him and say "hmm hes probably had something done". Anyways Dr. Umar your a genius, and i might be a potential patient, who knows. Thank God for Doctors like Umar. ApeSmith is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
Steve78 05.05.2008, 00:34 @ scarred5	Beard hair supply Post reply
	» » » Unlike head hair were donor preservation entails leaving behind as » much » » » hair behind as possible to maintain decent coverage on the back and » » sides » » » of the head, in facial hair harvesting using the SFET protocol » » » ALL visible hair has been removed with successive surgeries. » Thus » » in » » » some individuals, 6000-9000 grafts have been extracted successfully. » » » » OK I agree, I haven't thought about the need for donor preservation for » » scalp hair. » » ah but the beard hair is coarser, i am in awe that that many beard hair » are available, if we had known this yrs ago i could have saved so much of » everything, to think he probably never has to shave his mug again, i think » he should dye his hair blonde, is he intending to do more? i guess i was » initially mistaken stating he had limited donor available, I don't want to be rude but I don't buy it, Steve78 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
Heliboy 05.05.2008, 03:06 @ Steve78	Beard hair supply Post reply
	As one who has had extensive BHT and know the reaslistic expectations that it offers(too many people compare body hair expectations to scalp hair expectations ) - this is for sure excellent work and he has to be ecstatic with this result. Beard hair has definitely had an impact on this case . The reason this is perceived as hard to believe is because groundwork has been broken on territory we have seen very few /to little in the past . Just as with other areas on the body when BHT began - individuals had a hard time beleiving the numbers . I tell people that I have had 17,000 body hair taken from all areas of my body and they still find it hard to comprehend. The same will hold true for beard hair until we see continous cases presented over time and it sinks in that it is real and viable. Just so that I would know for future reference and use in the future if needed- I had an assesment done of my beard hair on my last visit to Dr Umar in Sept 2007. The evaluation revealed that Dr Umar could extract at least 8000 grafts + from my beard area . Its always nice to know what your options are to achieve the best results . It is nice to know what beard hair counts are available in case I need them later down the road . The beard hair area is very new to BHT but now that pristine extractions can be made and its characteristics most similar to scalp hair versus other BHT sources- its a valuable and viable option. My life has changed more than I can ever explain after what Dr Umar has done for me using BHT and his continuous efforts to make it work and work better as seen in this case .I was at the dentist last Thursday. My hot little dental hygentist who I see twice a year finished up with me and as I was getting up from the chair she she said - "Your hair looks great- And where are your scars ?". She was referring to the enormous strip scars that have wrapped my head for years but Dr Umar has done such an excellent job with camoflauging them as much as possible with my body hair over several sessions . Of course they are not invisible because I keep my hair shaved on the sides but the scars are camoflauged very well with the body hair . Her comment made me feel even more thankful what I have been able to achieve to get my life back with no worries of hair loss or feelings of disfigurement anymore . So glad to see this guy moving forward.Its a great feeling!!!! 19,000 grafts by Dr Umar Heliboy is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
HanginInThere 05.05.2008, 10:16 @ Heliboy	Beard hair supply Post reply
	» As one who has had extensive BHT and know the reaslistic expectations that » it offers(too many people compare body hair expectations to scalp hair » expectations ) - this is for sure excellent work and he has to be » ecstatic with this result. Beard hair has definitely had an impact on this » case . The reason this is perceived as hard to believe is because » groundwork has been broken on territory we have seen very few /to little in » the past . Just as with other areas on the body when BHT began - » individuals had a hard time beleiving the numbers . I tell people that I » have had 17,000 body hair taken from all areas of my body and they still » find it hard to comprehend. The same will hold true for beard hair until we » see continous cases presented over time and it sinks in that it is real and » viable. » » Just so that I would know for future reference and use in the future if » needed- I had an assesment done of my beard hair on my last visit to Dr » Umar in Sept 2007. The evaluation revealed that Dr Umar could extract at » least 8000 grafts + from my beard area . Its always nice to know what your » options are to achieve the best results . It is nice to know what beard » hair counts are available in case I need them later down the road . The » beard hair area is very new to BHT but now that pristine extractions can be » made and its characteristics most similar to scalp hair versus other BHT » sources- its a valuable and viable option. » » My life has changed more than I can ever explain after what Dr Umar has » done for me using BHT and his continuous efforts to make it work and work » better as seen in this case .I was at the dentist last Thursday. My hot » little dental hygentist who I see twice a year finished up with me and as » I was getting up from the chair she she said - "Your hair looks great- And » where are your scars ?". She was referring to the enormous strip scars that » have wrapped my head for years but Dr Umar has done such an excellent job » with camoflauging them as much as possible with my body hair over several » sessions . Of course they are not invisible because I keep my hair shaved » on the sides but the scars are camoflauged very well with the body hair . » Her comment made me feel even more thankful what I have been able to » achieve to get my life back with no worries of hair loss or feelings of » disfigurement anymore . » » So glad to see this guy moving forward.Its a great feeling!!!! » » 19,000 grafts by Dr Umar wouldnt the beard hair mimic the head hair more than normal body hair, as far as texture, and thickness having 8000 more grafts available through beard, and then having the possibility of not having to shave again, is killing two birds with one stone i guess this might only be equivalent to about 4000 head hair grafts but that is still a lot HanginInThere is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
therapy 05.05.2008, 10:32 @ Dr Umar	9 Month Update, 15,000+ Graft to NW6, BHT/FUE, -KF Post reply
	I don't think this one is as good as the 10,000 you posted earlier, perhaps if he grew his hair a bit longer it may look nicer, right now I can see thin spots all over. therapy is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
Dr Umar   Redondo Beach, California, 05.05.2008, 12:27 (edited by Dr Umar, 05.05.2008, 12:35) @ Dr Umar	Donor healing Post reply
	Here are some examples of donor area healing at 9 months (Pictures to the left were taken soon after surgery while the pictures to the right were taken at the 9 month mark: .. .. S. Umar, M.D., FAAD DermHair Clinic Redondo Beach, California +1-310-318-1500 1-877-DERMHAIR (US residents) info@dermhairclinic.com WEBSITE www.dermhairclinic.com Single Follicle Extraction & Transfer (SFET) Using Head and Body hair For more SFET-FUE and BHT results go to www.dermhairclinic.com Dr Umar is located in REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA and he is available to meet: NO
Steve78 05.05.2008, 12:47 @ Dr Umar	Donor healing Post reply
	Dr. Umar in your opinion do you think this fellow has above average beard density? Steve78 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
Dr Umar   Redondo Beach, California, 05.05.2008, 13:04 (edited by Dr Umar, 05.05.2008, 13:09) @ Steve78	Donor healing Post reply
	» Dr. Umar in your opinion do you think this fellow has above average beard » density? It is hard to say without actually doing an actual study. But based on what I see commonly, he he would range between average to above average. Here is the only before picture of the beard area in my possession. Although a bit blurry, it gives an idea of his beard density and range. This is at ~3 days without shaving. Before extraction of 6200 grafts .. Soon after extraction of 6200 Grafts .. 9 Months after extraction of 6200 grafts .. S. Umar, M.D., FAAD DermHair Clinic Redondo Beach, California +1-310-318-1500 1-877-DERMHAIR (US residents) info@dermhairclinic.com WEBSITE www.dermhairclinic.com Single Follicle Extraction & Transfer (SFET) Using Head and Body hair For more SFET-FUE and BHT results go to www.dermhairclinic.com Dr Umar is located in REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA and he is available to meet: NO
Xairyhay1 05.05.2008, 22:35 @ Dr Umar	9 Month Update, 15,000+ Graft to NW6, BHT/FUE, -KF Post reply
	I know that I am a bit of a pessimist, but this result is very unnatural. I know that we all try and be supportive, but for $60k or whatever, and all the pain and suffering, the result will attract far more attention to his head than the "before" picture. I totally respect Umar's work, but this result eliminates any desire that I have to try beard hair... Xairyhay1 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
HanginInThere 05.05.2008, 22:52 (edited by HanginInThere, 05.05.2008, 23:06) @ Xairyhay1	9 Month Update, 15,000+ Graft to NW6, BHT/FUE, -KF Post reply
	» I know that I am a bit of a pessimist, but this result is very unnatural. » I know that we all try and be supportive, but for $60k or whatever, and all » the pain and suffering, the result will attract far more attention to his » head than the "before" picture. I totally respect Umar's work, but this » result eliminates any desire that I have to try beard hair... then again does it look better than the more bald previous look, in my opinion he looked more natural before true he has more hair now but before even though more bald, he looked completely natural i cant say that now with his current hair the beard hair , I think it is that................well some hair on the head is of completely different consistency and is about 3 times as thick the individual shafts, than the surrounding hair, perhaps if he trims those hairs they will blend in HanginInThere is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
markus 05.05.2008, 23:20 @ HanginInThere	9 Month Update, 15,000+ Graft to NW6, BHT/FUE, -KF Post reply
	The hair looks fine to me, I think the more important question is how to get body hair to grow consistently so that this becomes a more efficient/effective treatment. It goes without saying that not all 15000 grew, I wish doctors would work together to unlock the mystery as to why some grew and others didn't. markus is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
Sofarsogood Los Angeles area, 05.05.2008, 23:31 (edited by Sofarsogood, 05.05.2008, 23:55) @ markus	9 Month Update, 15,000+ Graft to NW6, BHT/FUE, -KF Post reply
	He looks a heck of a lot better to me. Much younger. Another great example of a hybrid HT from Dr. Umar. Great FUE/BHT yield, especially for 9 months out. It was stated that he has more body and head hair donor in the bank. Priceless. Dr. U. could have taken "studio" pix that would have been much more flattering with glamour lighting, etc. But as always, these are clinical pix taken under bright, flat, unflattering lighting at the clinic. I think what some folks are responding to is his hairstyle and these clinical pix. I'd like to see him with his hairline gelled back or maybe a buzz cut. Parting it to the side this way wouldn't be my choice. But the point is, he has styling options now! He was a NW 6 for Pete's sake. AND... he's only 9 months out of the procedure. A little styling and this guy would look even better, IMO. He's got the whorl thing going on too! Take another look at these pics... Looking great here IMO: A soft, natural hairline...nice!: The whorl is in effect: Sofarsogood has 7 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view Sofarsogood is located in LOS ANGELES AREA and he is available to meet: NO --- BHT was used to "soften" my former HT hairline that was made up of larger grafts. At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case. http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood Video of my BHT result: http://youtube.com/watch?v=n_8uYbMTa4I
Brock Landers 06.05.2008, 00:40 @ Sofarsogood	Its clearly the gray hair that makes it look odd Post reply
	For all you that say it looks weird, you are right, and its the gray hair from the beard...in the before pics, he had no gray hair...Just imagine for a second that all the gray hair in the after was his hair color, then it would look very good. Tell this guy to slap on some Grecian 5 and he's good to go! Brock Landers is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
HairSite   06.05.2008, 01:52 @ Xairyhay1	9 Month Update, 15,000+ Graft to NW6, BHT/FUE, -KF Post reply
	» I know that I am a bit of a pessimist, but this result is very unnatural. » I know that we all try and be supportive, but for $60k or whatever, and all » the pain and suffering, the result will attract far more attention to his » head than the "before" picture. I totally respect Umar's work, but this » result eliminates any desire that I have to try beard hair... It's only 9 months. Sometimes the body hair will blend in better after going through a few cycles. HairSite is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
HanginInThere 06.05.2008, 06:05 @ Sofarsogood	9 Month Update, 15,000+ Graft to NW6, BHT/FUE, -KF Post reply
	» He looks a heck of a lot better to me. » Much younger. » » Another great example of a hybrid HT from Dr. Umar. » » Great FUE/BHT yield, especially for 9 months out. » » It was stated that he has more body and head hair donor in the bank. » Priceless. » » Dr. U. could have taken "studio" pix that would have been much more » flattering with glamour lighting, etc. » But as always, these are clinical pix taken under bright, flat, » unflattering lighting at the clinic. » » I think what some folks are responding to is his hairstyle and these » clinical pix. » » I'd like to see him with his hairline gelled back or maybe a buzz cut. » Parting it to the side this way wouldn't be my choice. » » But the point is, he has styling options now! » He was a NW 6 for Pete's sake. » » AND... he's only 9 months out of the procedure. » » A little styling and this guy would look even better, IMO. » He's got the whorl thing going on too! » » Take another look at these pics... » » Looking great here IMO: » » » A soft, natural hairline...nice!: » » » The whorl is in effect: » I had not seen that angle the first one you posted that one does not look too bad, in fact it looks ok to me HanginInThere is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
Steve78 06.05.2008, 12:38 @ Dr Umar	Donor healing Post reply
	He was way more than the avg person, the beard even goes down to his neck, I can see why you can take out that many from him. His chin looks spotless btw, good job. Steve78 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
craig 06.05.2008, 15:03 @ markus	9 Month Update, 15,000+ Graft to NW6, BHT/FUE, -KF Post reply
	» The hair looks fine to me, I think the more important question is how to » get body hair to grow consistently so that this becomes a more » efficient/effective treatment. It goes without saying that not all 15000 » grew, I wish doctors would work together to unlock the mystery as to why » some grew and others didn't. I am with you on this one. I have no problem with the hair. Put in some hair products or hair dye and I am sure he will look just fine. It's the 15000 grafts that I have a hard time swallowing. You hit it on the nail, the main problem is to improve body hair yield, to at least 60% IMO. It is troublesome that 15000 grafts yielded more like 5000. craig is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
HanginInThere 06.05.2008, 15:22 (edited by HanginInThere, 06.05.2008, 15:29) @ craig	your numbers are way off Post reply
	» » The hair looks fine to me, I think the more important question is how to » » get body hair to grow consistently so that this becomes a more » » efficient/effective treatment. It goes without saying that not all » 15000 » » grew, I wish doctors would work together to unlock the mystery as to » why » » some grew and others didn't. » » I am with you on this one. I have no problem with the hair. Put in some » hair products or hair dye and I am sure he will look just fine. It's the » 15000 grafts that I have a hard time swallowing. You hit it on the nail, » the main problem is to improve body hair yield, to at least 60% IMO. It is » troublesome that 15000 grafts yielded more like 5000. how do you know it yielded only 5000, when 5000 body hair grafts would be the equivalent of 2000 or so head hair grafts since body hair grafts are all one hair grafts are you telling me this guy could get this result with 2000 head hair grafts ? I dont think so...........your numbers are way way off for example if you got 10,000 body hair grafts that is only equivalent to about 4000 head hair grafts.................which actually upon looking at this guy his head looks like he would have recieved about 6000 head hair grafts or more...................which at 2 to 3 hairs per graft , would be the equivalent of about 15000 body hair grafts do not compare apples to oranges HanginInThere is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
craig 06.05.2008, 15:57 @ HanginInThere	your numbers are way off Post reply
	» » » The hair looks fine to me, I think the more important question is how » to » » » get body hair to grow consistently so that this becomes a more » » » efficient/effective treatment. It goes without saying that not all » » 15000 » » » grew, I wish doctors would work together to unlock the mystery as to » » why » » » some grew and others didn't. » » » » I am with you on this one. I have no problem with the hair. Put in some » » hair products or hair dye and I am sure he will look just fine. It's » the » » 15000 grafts that I have a hard time swallowing. You hit it on the » nail, » » the main problem is to improve body hair yield, to at least 60% IMO. It » is » » troublesome that 15000 grafts yielded more like 5000. » » how do you know it yielded only 5000, when 5000 body hair grafts would be » the equivalent of 2000 or so head hair grafts since body hair grafts are » all one hair grafts » » are you telling me this guy could get this result with 2000 head hair » grafts ? I dont think so...........your numbers are way way off » » for example if you got 10,000 body hair grafts that is only equivalent to » about 4000 head h