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05.05.2008, 15:00

After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method (Hair Transplant)
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Here is another example of how strip (FUT) can have a negative impact on a donor area. The patient had 4 strip procedures performed at a well known clinic over a ten year period. After strip (FUT) method is performed, the patient can heal poorly even if the procedure was performed by a good physician. The photo below shows scars on the donor area from strip (FUT) harvesting and a more recent tricophytic closure. Many strip physicians promote tricophytic closure as the sure fire way to make a strip scar invisible. In this case, not only is the strip scar highly visible, the hair growth angles are distorted for the remainder of this patient�s life. You can clearly see that the scar actually shows surrounding hairs growing in an upward direction and downward direction. This patient is no longer a candidate for strip and is now a candidate for CIT. With CIT, we may harvest the resources from the entire donor area without destroying the typical percentage of surrounding follicles. Fewer transplanted grafts will be necessary to achieve a natural looking result and the patient will have the option to wear a much shorter hair style. Now the patient wishes that he�d never had the strip procedure ever done as the benefits of CIT far exceed the adverse effects of the strip procedure to the donor area.

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HanginInThere

05.05.2008, 17:08

@ CIT
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� Here is another example of how strip (FUT) can have a negative impact on a
� donor area. The patient had 4 strip procedures performed at a well known
� clinic over a ten year period. After strip (FUT) method is performed, the
� patient can heal poorly even if the procedure was performed by a good
� physician. The photo below shows scars on the donor area from strip (FUT)
� harvesting and a more recent tricophytic closure. Many strip physicians
� promote tricophytic closure as the sure fire way to make a strip scar
� invisible. In this case, not only is the strip scar highly visible, the
� hair growth angles are distorted for the remainder of this patient�s life.
� You can clearly see that the scar actually shows surrounding hairs growing
� in an upward direction and downward direction. This patient is no longer a
� candidate for strip and is now a candidate for CIT. With CIT, we may
� harvest the resources from the entire donor area without destroying the
� typical percentage of surrounding follicles. Fewer transplanted grafts will
� be necessary to achieve a natural looking result and the patient will have
� the option to wear a much shorter hair style. Now the patient wishes that
� he�d never had the strip procedure ever done as the benefits of CIT far
� exceed the adverse effects of the strip procedure to the donor area.
�
� Free online consultation
� form
�
� [image]

terrible scar

also a perfect example of guys who say, strip does not reduce donor density, look at the hair surrounding the scar area, its almost bald
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markus

05.05.2008, 23:14

@ CIT
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It would help if you name the clinic who did this, at least we know who to avoid.

bverotti

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06.05.2008, 06:06

@ markus
After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method
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� It would help if you name the clinic who did this, at least we know who to
� avoid.

It does not really help to know which clinic because this is happening to every doc once in a while, regardless name and fame.

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stitchmeup

06.05.2008, 11:57

@ CIT
After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method
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How old is this scar? It is still very red.

CIT

06.05.2008, 12:21

@ stitchmeup
After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method
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� How old is this scar? It is still very red.

The closure (pinkish) was performed in Mar of 07'.
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06.05.2008, 12:47

@ HanginInThere
After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method
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� � Here is another example of how strip (FUT) can have a negative impact on
� a
� � donor area. The patient had 4 strip procedures performed at a well
� known
� � clinic over a ten year period. After strip (FUT) method is performed,
� the
� � patient can heal poorly even if the procedure was performed by a good
� � physician. The photo below shows scars on the donor area from strip
� (FUT)
� � harvesting and a more recent tricophytic closure. Many strip physicians
� � promote tricophytic closure as the sure fire way to make a strip scar
� � invisible. In this case, not only is the strip scar highly visible, the
� � hair growth angles are distorted for the remainder of this patient�s
� life.
� � You can clearly see that the scar actually shows surrounding hairs
� growing
� � in an upward direction and downward direction. This patient is no longer
� a
� � candidate for strip and is now a candidate for CIT. With CIT, we may
� � harvest the resources from the entire donor area without destroying the
� � typical percentage of surrounding follicles. Fewer transplanted grafts
� will
� � be necessary to achieve a natural looking result and the patient will
� have
� � the option to wear a much shorter hair style. Now the patient wishes
� that
� � he�d never had the strip procedure ever done as the benefits of CIT far
� � exceed the adverse effects of the strip procedure to the donor area.
� �
� � Free online consultation
� � form
� �
� � [image]
�
�
� terrible scar
�
� also a perfect example of guys who say, strip does not reduce donor
� density, look at the hair surrounding the scar area, its almost bald

It's the lack of hair in the scar and the contrast in skin color that makes it so noticeable. The whitish-pink scar tone stands out from beige skin tone. Tricophytic closure will still show if the donor area is shaved down low. This is just the apparent downside of strip.

In strip, the donor area is decreased and the patient's donor area is subject to the same disadvantages as a scalp reduction. This is why you rarely see strip donor photos with patients shaved down below a #2 guard. One millimeter strip scars are not very common.
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HanginInThere

06.05.2008, 12:53

@ CIT
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as a clinic who does strip or at least i think you do
can you set these guys straight who say, density in the donor area is the same, after a strip, because you simply cut out the area and stich the ends together

i say this is physically impossible...........unless you are only counting hair in the surrounding area, and the scar stretches an equal amount that you cut out, so now the donor density is the same, and there is a huge scar with zero density
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canadadry

07.05.2008, 09:27

@ HanginInThere
After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method
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� as a clinic who does strip or at least i think you do
� can you set these guys straight who say, density in the donor area is the
� same, after a strip, because you simply cut out the area and stich the ends
� together
�
� i say this is physically impossible...........unless you are only counting
� hair in the surrounding area, and the scar stretches an equal amount that
� you cut out, so now the donor density is the same, and there is a huge scar
� with zero density,

I think i had shockloss around mine scar too and don't think it all come back, so that added to my laxity that is almost nil in areas it has really changed my donor.

readyfreddy

07.05.2008, 11:40

@ HanginInThere
After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method
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� as a clinic who does strip or at least i think you do
� can you set these guys straight who say, density in the donor area is the
� same, after a strip, because you simply cut out the area and stich the ends
� together
�
� i say this is physically impossible...........unless you are only counting
� hair in the surrounding area, and the scar stretches an equal amount that
� you cut out, so now the donor density is the same, and there is a huge scar
� with zero density

I was the one who said that. It is possible if the strip is done right, have you seen some of Hasson/Wong pictures? There is practically no gaps in the donor and no loss of density since the two ends are stitched together.

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HanginInThere

07.05.2008, 13:28
(edited by HanginInThere, 07.05.2008, 13:39)

@ readyfreddy
After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method
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� � as a clinic who does strip or at least i think you do
� � can you set these guys straight who say, density in the donor area is
� the
� � same, after a strip, because you simply cut out the area and stich the
� ends
� � together
� �
� � i say this is physically impossible...........unless you are only
� counting
� � hair in the surrounding area, and the scar stretches an equal amount
� that
� � you cut out, so now the donor density is the same, and there is a huge
� scar
� � with zero density
�
� I was the one who said that. It is possible if the strip is done right,
� have you seen some of Hasson/Wong pictures? There is practically no gaps
� in the donor and no loss of density since the two ends are stitched
� together.
�
� [image]

to the naked eye it might appear no density loss but this is physically impossible

you cannot remove 20 percent of the hair in an area of skull, and retain the ddensity in that area
physically impossible

this also coincides with the theory that you have to lose 50 percent of the density in an area before hair loss becomes noticeable

so if you did lose lets say 20 percent of the density in the donor area afterwards you would not be able to detect it with the naked eye, but it would still be less
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CIT

07.05.2008, 16:03
(edited by CIT, 07.05.2008, 16:09)

@ HanginInThere
Decreased density and donor surface area after strip
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� � � as a clinic who does strip or at least i think you do
� � � can you set these guys straight who say, density in the donor area is
� � the
� � � same, after a strip, because you simply cut out the area and stich
� the
� � ends
� � � together
� � �
� � � i say this is physically impossible...........unless you are only
� � counting
� � � hair in the surrounding area, and the scar stretches an equal amount
� � that
� � � you cut out, so now the donor density is the same, and there is a
� huge
� � scar
� � � with zero density
� �
� � I was the one who said that. It is possible if the strip is done right,
� � have you seen some of Hasson/Wong pictures? There is practically no
� gaps
� � in the donor and no loss of density since the two ends are stitched
� � together.
� �
� �
� [image]
�
� to the naked eye it might appear no density loss but this is physically
� impossible
�
� you cannot remove 20 percent of the hair in an area of skull, and retain
� the ddensity in that area
� physically impossible
�
� this also coincides with the theory that you have to lose 50 percent of
� the density in an area before hair loss becomes noticeable
�
� so if you did lose lets say 20 percent of the density in the donor area
� afterwards you would not be able to detect it with the naked eye, but it
� would still be less

A small percentage of correctly performed strips will actually produce a pencil thin scar. The rest of them would still need FUE into the scar just so they could hopefully buzz come close to a 3 guard. Strip doesn't allow patients to wear a short hair style or come close to a #1 guard hair cut.

The actual donor density is not the same after any harvesting. You must focus on the entire donor area and not just the location above and below the strip harvest. Density is multiplied by the size of the donor area to yeild the total donor resource. The patient will have stretching over the entire scalp but more so at the site of the strip harvest.

What is this patient's density and what resource can be harvested from strip?
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HanginInThere

07.05.2008, 17:07

@ CIT
Decreased density and donor surface area after strip
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we had a huge discussion with guys INSISTING that strip is capable of not decreasing density in the donor area

i said this is physically impossible but , the issue was never resolved

thanks for adding one to the side of sanity
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mwinston

07.05.2008, 19:13

@ HanginInThere
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� we had a huge discussion with guys INSISTING that strip is capable of not
� decreasing density in the donor area
�
� i said this is physically impossible but , the issue was never resolved
�
� thanks for adding one to the side of sanity
I concur, strip puts a minus on density. No matter how good a strip looks, it moves the donor in different directions.

CIT

08.05.2008, 10:01

@ HanginInThere
DEAL OR NO DEAL - Strip scars w/ short hair
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� we had a huge discussion with guys INSISTING that strip is capable of not
� decreasing density in the donor area
�
� i said this is physically impossible but , the issue was never resolved
�
� thanks for adding one to the side of sanity

This thread is definitely open for discussion. Here is patient who wears a short hair style and has unacceptable scarring. Most strip scars will look very similar to this patient's scar. While it is acceptible for some, we tend to think that patients shouldn't have to deal with a scar that can widen over time. To this day, younger patients are still being cornered into getting strips at young ages before they discover a better procedure.

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HanginInThere

08.05.2008, 10:15

@ CIT
i would rather be bald
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than have a scar like this

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reiner

08.05.2008, 10:40

@ CIT
why strip scars stretch
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Do you know why strip scars stretch? Clearly it doesn't happen to every strip patient, so why does some stretch and others don't?

HanginInThere

08.05.2008, 10:57

@ reiner
why strip scars stretch
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� Do you know why strip scars stretch? Clearly it doesn't happen to every
� strip patient, so why does some stretch and others don't?

scalp laxity or lack thereof
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therapy

08.05.2008, 12:02

@ HanginInThere
why strip scars stretch
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� � Do you know why strip scars stretch? Clearly it doesn't happen to every
� � strip patient, so why does some stretch and others don't?
�
� scalp laxity or lack thereof

I read it somewhere that staples instead of regular sutures work better at closing the donor and preventing the scar from widening.

CIT 05.05.2008, 15:00	After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method (Hair Transplant) Post reply
	Here is another example of how strip (FUT) can have a negative impact on a donor area. The patient had 4 strip procedures performed at a well known clinic over a ten year period. After strip (FUT) method is performed, the patient can heal poorly even if the procedure was performed by a good physician. The photo below shows scars on the donor area from strip (FUT) harvesting and a more recent tricophytic closure. Many strip physicians promote tricophytic closure as the sure fire way to make a strip scar invisible. In this case, not only is the strip scar highly visible, the hair growth angles are distorted for the remainder of this patient�s life. You can clearly see that the scar actually shows surrounding hairs growing in an upward direction and downward direction. This patient is no longer a candidate for strip and is now a candidate for CIT. With CIT, we may harvest the resources from the entire donor area without destroying the typical percentage of surrounding follicles. Fewer transplanted grafts will be necessary to achieve a natural looking result and the patient will have the option to wear a much shorter hair style. Now the patient wishes that he�d never had the strip procedure ever done as the benefits of CIT far exceed the adverse effects of the strip procedure to the donor area. Free online consultation form --- Toll Free: 800 368 4247 USA: 1 (678) 566-1011 Email: consults@forhair.com www.forhair.com
HanginInThere 05.05.2008, 17:08 @ CIT	After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method Post reply
	� Here is another example of how strip (FUT) can have a negative impact on a � donor area. The patient had 4 strip procedures performed at a well known � clinic over a ten year period. After strip (FUT) method is performed, the � patient can heal poorly even if the procedure was performed by a good � physician. The photo below shows scars on the donor area from strip (FUT) � harvesting and a more recent tricophytic closure. Many strip physicians � promote tricophytic closure as the sure fire way to make a strip scar � invisible. In this case, not only is the strip scar highly visible, the � hair growth angles are distorted for the remainder of this patient�s life. � You can clearly see that the scar actually shows surrounding hairs growing � in an upward direction and downward direction. This patient is no longer a � candidate for strip and is now a candidate for CIT. With CIT, we may � harvest the resources from the entire donor area without destroying the � typical percentage of surrounding follicles. Fewer transplanted grafts will � be necessary to achieve a natural looking result and the patient will have � the option to wear a much shorter hair style. Now the patient wishes that � he�d never had the strip procedure ever done as the benefits of CIT far � exceed the adverse effects of the strip procedure to the donor area. � � Free online consultation � form � � terrible scar also a perfect example of guys who say, strip does not reduce donor density, look at the hair surrounding the scar area, its almost bald --- Hangin Regimen...........Warning this regimen may cause you to hallucinate , also might cause you to follow hangin around on the board crying, if it does not work, or petition for hangin to be banned. If this occurs, seek mental counseling quickly. Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
markus 05.05.2008, 23:14 @ CIT	After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method Post reply
	It would help if you name the clinic who did this, at least we know who to avoid.
bverotti Belgium, 06.05.2008, 06:06 @ markus	After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method Post reply
	� It would help if you name the clinic who did this, at least we know who to � avoid. It does not really help to know which clinic because this is happening to every doc once in a while, regardless name and fame. --- Consultant for Prohairclinic FUE only institute since 2004 Specialized in FUE megasessions
stitchmeup 06.05.2008, 11:57 @ CIT	After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method Post reply
	How old is this scar? It is still very red.
CIT 06.05.2008, 12:21 @ stitchmeup	After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method Post reply
	� How old is this scar? It is still very red. The closure (pinkish) was performed in Mar of 07'. --- Toll Free: 800 368 4247 USA: 1 (678) 566-1011 Email: consults@forhair.com www.forhair.com
CIT 06.05.2008, 12:47 @ HanginInThere	After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method Post reply
	� � Here is another example of how strip (FUT) can have a negative impact on � a � � donor area. The patient had 4 strip procedures performed at a well � known � � clinic over a ten year period. After strip (FUT) method is performed, � the � � patient can heal poorly even if the procedure was performed by a good � � physician. The photo below shows scars on the donor area from strip � (FUT) � � harvesting and a more recent tricophytic closure. Many strip physicians � � promote tricophytic closure as the sure fire way to make a strip scar � � invisible. In this case, not only is the strip scar highly visible, the � � hair growth angles are distorted for the remainder of this patient�s � life. � � You can clearly see that the scar actually shows surrounding hairs � growing � � in an upward direction and downward direction. This patient is no longer � a � � candidate for strip and is now a candidate for CIT. With CIT, we may � � harvest the resources from the entire donor area without destroying the � � typical percentage of surrounding follicles. Fewer transplanted grafts � will � � be necessary to achieve a natural looking result and the patient will � have � � the option to wear a much shorter hair style. Now the patient wishes � that � � he�d never had the strip procedure ever done as the benefits of CIT far � � exceed the adverse effects of the strip procedure to the donor area. � � � � Free online consultation � � form � � � � � � � terrible scar � � also a perfect example of guys who say, strip does not reduce donor � density, look at the hair surrounding the scar area, its almost bald It's the lack of hair in the scar and the contrast in skin color that makes it so noticeable. The whitish-pink scar tone stands out from beige skin tone. Tricophytic closure will still show if the donor area is shaved down low. This is just the apparent downside of strip. In strip, the donor area is decreased and the patient's donor area is subject to the same disadvantages as a scalp reduction. This is why you rarely see strip donor photos with patients shaved down below a #2 guard. One millimeter strip scars are not very common. --- Toll Free: 800 368 4247 USA: 1 (678) 566-1011 Email: consults@forhair.com www.forhair.com
HanginInThere 06.05.2008, 12:53 @ CIT	After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method Post reply
	as a clinic who does strip or at least i think you do can you set these guys straight who say, density in the donor area is the same, after a strip, because you simply cut out the area and stich the ends together i say this is physically impossible...........unless you are only counting hair in the surrounding area, and the scar stretches an equal amount that you cut out, so now the donor density is the same, and there is a huge scar with zero density --- Hangin Regimen...........Warning this regimen may cause you to hallucinate , also might cause you to follow hangin around on the board crying, if it does not work, or petition for hangin to be banned. If this occurs, seek mental counseling quickly. Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
canadadry 07.05.2008, 09:27 @ HanginInThere	After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method Post reply
	� as a clinic who does strip or at least i think you do � can you set these guys straight who say, density in the donor area is the � same, after a strip, because you simply cut out the area and stich the ends � together � � i say this is physically impossible...........unless you are only counting � hair in the surrounding area, and the scar stretches an equal amount that � you cut out, so now the donor density is the same, and there is a huge scar � with zero density, I think i had shockloss around mine scar too and don't think it all come back, so that added to my laxity that is almost nil in areas it has really changed my donor.
readyfreddy 07.05.2008, 11:40 @ HanginInThere	After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method Post reply
	� as a clinic who does strip or at least i think you do � can you set these guys straight who say, density in the donor area is the � same, after a strip, because you simply cut out the area and stich the ends � together � � i say this is physically impossible...........unless you are only counting � hair in the surrounding area, and the scar stretches an equal amount that � you cut out, so now the donor density is the same, and there is a huge scar � with zero density I was the one who said that. It is possible if the strip is done right, have you seen some of Hasson/Wong pictures? There is practically no gaps in the donor and no loss of density since the two ends are stitched together.
HanginInThere 07.05.2008, 13:28 (edited by HanginInThere, 07.05.2008, 13:39) @ readyfreddy	After effects of strip (FUT) hair transplant method Post reply
	� � as a clinic who does strip or at least i think you do � � can you set these guys straight who say, density in the donor area is � the � � same, after a strip, because you simply cut out the area and stich the � ends � � together � � � � i say this is physically impossible...........unless you are only � counting � � hair in the surrounding area, and the scar stretches an equal amount � that � � you cut out, so now the donor density is the same, and there is a huge � scar � � with zero density � � I was the one who said that. It is possible if the strip is done right, � have you seen some of Hasson/Wong pictures? There is practically no gaps � in the donor and no loss of density since the two ends are stitched � together. � � to the naked eye it might appear no density loss but this is physically impossible you cannot remove 20 percent of the hair in an area of skull, and retain the ddensity in that area physically impossible this also coincides with the theory that you have to lose 50 percent of the density in an area before hair loss becomes noticeable so if you did lose lets say 20 percent of the density in the donor area afterwards you would not be able to detect it with the naked eye, but it would still be less --- Hangin Regimen...........Warning this regimen may cause you to hallucinate , also might cause you to follow hangin around on the board crying, if it does not work, or petition for hangin to be banned. If this occurs, seek mental counseling quickly. Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
CIT 07.05.2008, 16:03 (edited by CIT, 07.05.2008, 16:09) @ HanginInThere	Decreased density and donor surface area after strip Post reply
	� � � as a clinic who does strip or at least i think you do � � � can you set these guys straight who say, density in the donor area is � � the � � � same, after a strip, because you simply cut out the area and stich � the � � ends � � � together � � � � � � i say this is physically impossible...........unless you are only � � counting � � � hair in the surrounding area, and the scar stretches an equal amount � � that � � � you cut out, so now the donor density is the same, and there is a � huge � � scar � � � with zero density � � � � I was the one who said that. It is possible if the strip is done right, � � have you seen some of Hasson/Wong pictures? There is practically no � gaps � � in the donor and no loss of density since the two ends are stitched � � together. � � � � � � � to the naked eye it might appear no density loss but this is physically � impossible � � you cannot remove 20 percent of the hair in an area of skull, and retain � the ddensity in that area � physically impossible � � this also coincides with the theory that you have to lose 50 percent of � the density in an area before hair loss becomes noticeable � � so if you did lose lets say 20 percent of the density in the donor area � afterwards you would not be able to detect it with the naked eye, but it � would still be less A small percentage of correctly performed strips will actually produce a pencil thin scar. The rest of them would still need FUE into the scar just so they could hopefully buzz come close to a 3 guard. Strip doesn't allow patients to wear a short hair style or come close to a #1 guard hair cut. The actual donor density is not the same after any harvesting. You must focus on the entire donor area and not just the location above and below the strip harvest. Density is multiplied by the size of the donor area to yeild the total donor resource. The patient will have stretching over the entire scalp but more so at the site of the strip harvest. What is this patient's density and what resource can be harvested from strip? --- Toll Free: 800 368 4247 USA: 1 (678) 566-1011 Email: consults@forhair.com www.forhair.com
HanginInThere 07.05.2008, 17:07 @ CIT	Decreased density and donor surface area after strip Post reply
	we had a huge discussion with guys INSISTING that strip is capable of not decreasing density in the donor area i said this is physically impossible but , the issue was never resolved thanks for adding one to the side of sanity --- Hangin Regimen...........Warning this regimen may cause you to hallucinate , also might cause you to follow hangin around on the board crying, if it does not work, or petition for hangin to be banned. If this occurs, seek mental counseling quickly. Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
mwinston 07.05.2008, 19:13 @ HanginInThere	Decreased density and donor surface area after strip Post reply
	� we had a huge discussion with guys INSISTING that strip is capable of not � decreasing density in the donor area � � i said this is physically impossible but , the issue was never resolved � � thanks for adding one to the side of sanity I concur, strip puts a minus on density. No matter how good a strip looks, it moves the donor in different directions.
CIT 08.05.2008, 10:01 @ HanginInThere	DEAL OR NO DEAL - Strip scars w/ short hair Post reply
	� we had a huge discussion with guys INSISTING that strip is capable of not � decreasing density in the donor area � � i said this is physically impossible but , the issue was never resolved � � thanks for adding one to the side of sanity This thread is definitely open for discussion. Here is patient who wears a short hair style and has unacceptable scarring. Most strip scars will look very similar to this patient's scar. While it is acceptible for some, we tend to think that patients shouldn't have to deal with a scar that can widen over time. To this day, younger patients are still being cornered into getting strips at young ages before they discover a better procedure. --- Toll Free: 800 368 4247 USA: 1 (678) 566-1011 Email: consults@forhair.com www.forhair.com
HanginInThere 08.05.2008, 10:15 @ CIT	i would rather be bald Post reply
	than have a scar like this � � � --- Hangin Regimen...........Warning this regimen may cause you to hallucinate , also might cause you to follow hangin around on the board crying, if it does not work, or petition for hangin to be banned. If this occurs, seek mental counseling quickly. Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
reiner 08.05.2008, 10:40 @ CIT	why strip scars stretch Post reply
	Do you know why strip scars stretch? Clearly it doesn't happen to every strip patient, so why does some stretch and others don't?
HanginInThere 08.05.2008, 10:57 @ reiner	why strip scars stretch Post reply
	� Do you know why strip scars stretch? Clearly it doesn't happen to every � strip patient, so why does some stretch and others don't? scalp laxity or lack thereof --- Hangin Regimen...........Warning this regimen may cause you to hallucinate , also might cause you to follow hangin around on the board crying, if it does not work, or petition for hangin to be banned. If this occurs, seek mental counseling quickly. Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
therapy 08.05.2008, 12:02 @ HanginInThere	why strip scars stretch Post reply
	� � Do you know why strip scars stretch? Clearly it doesn't happen to every � � strip patient, so why does some stretch and others don't? � � scalp laxity or lack thereof I read it somewhere that staples instead of regular sutures work better at closing the donor and preventing the scar from widening.