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Minitor

06.05.2008, 01:14

Histogen- Another Player. (Hair Multiplication & Research)
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http://www.histogeninc.com/downloads/hisotgenforinvestor.pdf

Looks like they will be attempting to sell their tech to Aderans/bosley clinics. This is good news, out of ICX and this company hopefully something will be available in the coming years.

Minitor is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

benji

06.05.2008, 20:48

@ HanginInThere
Histogen- Hair Multiplication.................whats on their site....
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� � � � . :lol2:
� �
� �
�
� i was laughing at rev............................not at what he posted
�
� just at him in general
�
� dont be offended, its a personal thing

IM certainly not offended and you might very well be right to be dubious of this company. I just looked at their budget................yikes its small. Total outlays were something like 3.7 million. I bet the dont have 30 employees aggregately. Here was their board:http://www.histogeninc.com/aboutus/management_board.htm

Here is where they are at in various trials:http://www.histogeninc.com/products/clinical_status.htm

This is a start-up looking for money in my opinion. I hate to say it, but saying one is investigating a HM-methodology might be a good way to get millionaire baldies, if you can convince them you are close, to ante up much more than they ever would for this type of company...............

benji is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

HanginInThere

Somewhere,
06.05.2008, 20:23

@ benji
Histogen- Hair Multiplication.................whats on their site....
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� � � . :lol2:
�
� http://www.histogeninc.com/products/hgen_001.htm
�
� Home > Products > HGEN-001
�
� HGEN-001 HGEN-001 is a proprietary liquid formula created by infusing the
� soluble chemicals secreted by the newborn fibroblasts with the liquid
� media. It is the first naturally stabilized and bioactive formulation of
� wnt proteins and growth factors, offering exceptional opportunities for
� applications including research tools and biologics products.
�
� The formula contains naturally stabilized and bioactive wnt proteins and
� activity
� The formula contains naturally secreted growth factors
� HGEN-001 is soluble and injectable
� The formula requires no purification process
� Capabilities for Hair growth
�
� Hair loss affects 35 million men and 21 million women in the United
� States.
�
� One of Histogen's significant applications for HGEN-001 is its utilization
� as an injectable for hair growth. The combination of wnt proteins and
� growth factors making up HGEN-001 has been shown to both stimulate resting
� hair follicles and induce new follicle formation.
�
� In May 2007, these findings were substantiated by research performed by
� Dr. George Cotsarelis, which offered further evidence that these growth
� factors and proteins in combination lead to a significant increase in the
� creation of new hair follicles in mice.
�
� Histogen's injectable for hair growth will be undergoing clinical trials,
� and launch is planned for 2015.
�
�
�
�
� They claim in the PDF document that clinical trials produced alot of hair
� growth and show you pictures of two mice that do indeed have hair growth in
� bald spots. They also claim a product could be ready by
� 2015..................but why so long out there if its a sure thing?
� Senseless..............That is seven years from now. If they are sure, it
� would be sooner. Its almost weird saying "expected launch date 7 years from
� now". If they are that confident, then go ahead and recruit volunteers and
� have a damned trial beginning next month. Until they have grown hair on AT
� LEAST human skin grafted onto a SCID mouse, Im not going to get excited. To
� be honest, this company seems to be at the state that Aderans or ICX was
� four years ago, just starting. They are up on WNT being a pathway that can
� be used to induce things along......................
�
�
� Im not going to laugh at them like Hangin' did, and its great to have
� another company interested, but this is "out there" a ways for certain.
� They certainly speak confidently in the PDF file, but Washenik used to
� speak very confidently, and now he hardly speaks at all.

i was laughing at rev............................not at what he posted

just at him in general

dont be offended, its a personal thing

HanginInThere is located in SOMEWHERE and he is available to meet: NO
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Hangin Regimen...........

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg
2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo

benji

06.05.2008, 20:10

@ HanginInThere
Histogen- Hair Multiplication.................whats on their site....
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� � . :lol2:

http://www.histogeninc.com/products/hgen_001.htm

Home > Products > HGEN-001

HGEN-001 HGEN-001 is a proprietary liquid formula created by infusing the soluble chemicals secreted by the newborn fibroblasts with the liquid media. It is the first naturally stabilized and bioactive formulation of wnt proteins and growth factors, offering exceptional opportunities for applications including research tools and biologics products.

The formula contains naturally stabilized and bioactive wnt proteins and activity
The formula contains naturally secreted growth factors
HGEN-001 is soluble and injectable
The formula requires no purification process
Capabilities for Hair growth

Hair loss affects 35 million men and 21 million women in the United States.

One of Histogen's significant applications for HGEN-001 is its utilization as an injectable for hair growth. The combination of wnt proteins and growth factors making up HGEN-001 has been shown to both stimulate resting hair follicles and induce new follicle formation.

In May 2007, these findings were substantiated by research performed by
Dr. George Cotsarelis, which offered further evidence that these growth factors and proteins in combination lead to a significant increase in the creation of new hair follicles in mice.

Histogen's injectable for hair growth will be undergoing clinical trials, and launch is planned for 2015.

They claim in the PDF document that clinical trials produced alot of hair growth and show you pictures of two mice that do indeed have hair growth in bald spots. They also claim a product could be ready by 2015..................but why so long out there if its a sure thing? Senseless..............That is seven years from now. If they are sure, it would be sooner. Its almost weird saying "expected launch date 7 years from now". If they are that confident, then go ahead and recruit volunteers and have a damned trial beginning next month. Until they have grown hair on AT LEAST human skin grafted onto a SCID mouse, Im not going to get excited. To be honest, this company seems to be at the state that Aderans or ICX was four years ago, just starting. They are up on WNT being a pathway that can be used to induce things along......................

Im not going to laugh at them like Hangin' did, and its great to have another company interested, but this is "out there" a ways for certain. They certainly speak confidently in the PDF file, but Washenik used to speak very confidently, and now he hardly speaks at all.

benji is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

HanginInThere

Somewhere,
06.05.2008, 14:19

@ rev
Histogen- Another Player.
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� . :lol2:

HanginInThere is located in SOMEWHERE and he is available to meet: NO
---
Hangin Regimen...........

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg
2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo

goata007

06.05.2008, 09:38

@ Minitor
Histogen- Another Player.
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� http://www.histogeninc.com/downloads/hisotgenforinvestor.pdf
�
� Looks like they will be attempting to sell their tech to Aderans/bosley
� clinics. This is good news, out of ICX and this company hopefully something
� will be available in the coming years.

"In May 2007, these findings were substantiated by research performed by
Dr. George Cotsarelis, which offered further evidence that these growth factors and proteins in combination lead to a significant increase in the creation of new hair follicles in mice.

Histogen's injectable for hair growth will be undergoing clinical trials, and launch is planned for 2015."

i'd stick with follica.

goata007 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
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"If we knew what it was that we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein

rev

your nightmares,
06.05.2008, 04:14
(edited by rev, 06.05.2008, 04:29)

@ Minitor
Histogen- Another Player.
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Minitor:
http://www.histogeninc.com/downloads/hisotgenforinvestor.pdf

Looks like they will be attempting to sell their tech to Aderans/bosley
clinics. This is good news, out of ICX and this company hopefully something
will be available in the coming years.

hmmm it's interesting, but let's hope they garner interest from P&G rather than Bosley.... and let's hope that timeline can be shortened. If I'm not mistaken, it looks like they're aiming for Q4 2015.

I do like their suggested price for treatment at $5k versus $4-12k for 2plus HT procedures. I also like that Dr. Naughton�s previous findings were substantiated in an article by George Cotsarelis, but I won't hold my breath until they test and prove that HGEN-001 works on humans.

.

rev is located in YOUR NIGHTMARES and he is available to meet: NO

Minitor 06.05.2008, 01:14	Histogen- Another Player. (Hair Multiplication & Research) Post reply
	http://www.histogeninc.com/downloads/hisotgenforinvestor.pdf Looks like they will be attempting to sell their tech to Aderans/bosley clinics. This is good news, out of ICX and this company hopefully something will be available in the coming years. Minitor is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
benji 06.05.2008, 20:48 @ HanginInThere	Histogen- Hair Multiplication.................whats on their site.... Post reply
	� � � � . � � � � � � i was laughing at rev............................not at what he posted � � just at him in general � � dont be offended, its a personal thing IM certainly not offended and you might very well be right to be dubious of this company. I just looked at their budget................yikes its small. Total outlays were something like 3.7 million. I bet the dont have 30 employees aggregately. Here was their board:http://www.histogeninc.com/aboutus/management_board.htm Here is where they are at in various trials:http://www.histogeninc.com/products/clinical_status.htm This is a start-up looking for money in my opinion. I hate to say it, but saying one is investigating a HM-methodology might be a good way to get millionaire baldies, if you can convince them you are close, to ante up much more than they ever would for this type of company............... benji is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
HanginInThere Somewhere, 06.05.2008, 20:23 @ benji	Histogen- Hair Multiplication.................whats on their site.... Post reply
	� � � . � � http://www.histogeninc.com/products/hgen_001.htm � � Home > Products > HGEN-001 � � HGEN-001 HGEN-001 is a proprietary liquid formula created by infusing the � soluble chemicals secreted by the newborn fibroblasts with the liquid � media. It is the first naturally stabilized and bioactive formulation of � wnt proteins and growth factors, offering exceptional opportunities for � applications including research tools and biologics products. � � The formula contains naturally stabilized and bioactive wnt proteins and � activity � The formula contains naturally secreted growth factors � HGEN-001 is soluble and injectable � The formula requires no purification process � Capabilities for Hair growth � � Hair loss affects 35 million men and 21 million women in the United � States. � � One of Histogen's significant applications for HGEN-001 is its utilization � as an injectable for hair growth. The combination of wnt proteins and � growth factors making up HGEN-001 has been shown to both stimulate resting � hair follicles and induce new follicle formation. � � In May 2007, these findings were substantiated by research performed by � Dr. George Cotsarelis, which offered further evidence that these growth � factors and proteins in combination lead to a significant increase in the � creation of new hair follicles in mice. � � Histogen's injectable for hair growth will be undergoing clinical trials, � and launch is planned for 2015. � � � � � They claim in the PDF document that clinical trials produced alot of hair � growth and show you pictures of two mice that do indeed have hair growth in � bald spots. They also claim a product could be ready by � 2015..................but why so long out there if its a sure thing? � Senseless..............That is seven years from now. If they are sure, it � would be sooner. Its almost weird saying "expected launch date 7 years from � now". If they are that confident, then go ahead and recruit volunteers and � have a damned trial beginning next month. Until they have grown hair on AT � LEAST human skin grafted onto a SCID mouse, Im not going to get excited. To � be honest, this company seems to be at the state that Aderans or ICX was � four years ago, just starting. They are up on WNT being a pathway that can � be used to induce things along...................... � � � Im not going to laugh at them like Hangin' did, and its great to have � another company interested, but this is "out there" a ways for certain. � They certainly speak confidently in the PDF file, but Washenik used to � speak very confidently, and now he hardly speaks at all. i was laughing at rev............................not at what he posted just at him in general dont be offended, its a personal thing HanginInThere is located in SOMEWHERE and he is available to meet: NO --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
benji 06.05.2008, 20:10 @ HanginInThere	Histogen- Hair Multiplication.................whats on their site.... Post reply
	� � . http://www.histogeninc.com/products/hgen_001.htm Home > Products > HGEN-001 HGEN-001 HGEN-001 is a proprietary liquid formula created by infusing the soluble chemicals secreted by the newborn fibroblasts with the liquid media. It is the first naturally stabilized and bioactive formulation of wnt proteins and growth factors, offering exceptional opportunities for applications including research tools and biologics products. The formula contains naturally stabilized and bioactive wnt proteins and activity The formula contains naturally secreted growth factors HGEN-001 is soluble and injectable The formula requires no purification process Capabilities for Hair growth Hair loss affects 35 million men and 21 million women in the United States. One of Histogen's significant applications for HGEN-001 is its utilization as an injectable for hair growth. The combination of wnt proteins and growth factors making up HGEN-001 has been shown to both stimulate resting hair follicles and induce new follicle formation. In May 2007, these findings were substantiated by research performed by Dr. George Cotsarelis, which offered further evidence that these growth factors and proteins in combination lead to a significant increase in the creation of new hair follicles in mice. Histogen's injectable for hair growth will be undergoing clinical trials, and launch is planned for 2015. They claim in the PDF document that clinical trials produced alot of hair growth and show you pictures of two mice that do indeed have hair growth in bald spots. They also claim a product could be ready by 2015..................but why so long out there if its a sure thing? Senseless..............That is seven years from now. If they are sure, it would be sooner. Its almost weird saying "expected launch date 7 years from now". If they are that confident, then go ahead and recruit volunteers and have a damned trial beginning next month. Until they have grown hair on AT LEAST human skin grafted onto a SCID mouse, Im not going to get excited. To be honest, this company seems to be at the state that Aderans or ICX was four years ago, just starting. They are up on WNT being a pathway that can be used to induce things along...................... Im not going to laugh at them like Hangin' did, and its great to have another company interested, but this is "out there" a ways for certain. They certainly speak confidently in the PDF file, but Washenik used to speak very confidently, and now he hardly speaks at all. benji is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
HanginInThere Somewhere, 06.05.2008, 14:19 @ rev	Histogen- Another Player. Post reply
	� . HanginInThere is located in SOMEWHERE and he is available to meet: NO --- Hangin Regimen........... Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day DHT blockers (daily intake) Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized Pygeum 500mg Nettles 500mg Beta Sitosterol 125mg 2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo
goata007 06.05.2008, 09:38 @ Minitor	Histogen- Another Player. Post reply
	� http://www.histogeninc.com/downloads/hisotgenforinvestor.pdf � � Looks like they will be attempting to sell their tech to Aderans/bosley � clinics. This is good news, out of ICX and this company hopefully something � will be available in the coming years. "In May 2007, these findings were substantiated by research performed by Dr. George Cotsarelis, which offered further evidence that these growth factors and proteins in combination lead to a significant increase in the creation of new hair follicles in mice. Histogen's injectable for hair growth will be undergoing clinical trials, and launch is planned for 2015." i'd stick with follica. goata007 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- "If we knew what it was that we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein
rev your nightmares, 06.05.2008, 04:14 (edited by rev, 06.05.2008, 04:29) @ Minitor	Histogen- Another Player. Post reply
	Minitor: http://www.histogeninc.com/downloads/hisotgenforinvestor.pdf Looks like they will be attempting to sell their tech to Aderans/bosley clinics. This is good news, out of ICX and this company hopefully something will be available in the coming years. hmmm it's interesting, but let's hope they garner interest from P&G rather than Bosley.... and let's hope that timeline can be shortened. If I'm not mistaken, it looks like they're aiming for Q4 2015. I do like their suggested price for treatment at $5k versus $4-12k for 2plus HT procedures. I also like that Dr. Naughton�s previous findings were substantiated in an article by George Cotsarelis, but I won't hold my breath until they test and prove that HGEN-001 works on humans. . rev is located in YOUR NIGHTMARES and he is available to meet: NO