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Wiskers

06.05.2008, 02:55
 

Nizoral Shampoo (Topicals)

What do you people think about the effectiveness of adding 1% or 2% Nizoral Shampoo to Propacia?
(not for hair growth, but for the halting or the reduction of hair loss)

HanginInThere

06.05.2008, 06:01

@ Wiskers

Nizoral Shampoo

» What do you people think about the effectiveness of adding 1% or 2% Nizoral
» Shampoo to Propacia?
» (not for hair growth, but for the halting or the reduction of hair loss)

the shampoo is very harsh

although it contains the active ingredient ketoconazole, it contains hcl...hydrochloric acid...........

the cream seems to work better and is less harsh, stays on your head longer, but a lot of guys get a shed at 6 weeks or so, grew back thicker for me though, took a while

get the 2 percent, all the studies seem to indicate the 2 percent works way better

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DHT blockers (daily intake)
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Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg
2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo

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06.05.2008, 08:35

@ Wiskers

Nizoral Shampoo

Comparative efficacy of various treatment regimens for androgenetic alopecia in men.

J Dermatol. 2002 Aug;29(8):489-98

Our understanding of the aetiology of androgenetic alopecia (AGA) has substantially increased in recent years. As a result, several treatment modalities have been tried with promising results especially in early stages of AGA. However, as far as has been ascertained, there is no comprehensive study comparing the efficacy of these agents alone and in combination with each other.

One hundered male patients with AGA of Hamilton grades II to IV were enrolled in an open, randomized, parallel-group study, designed to evaluate and compare the efficacy of oral finasteride (1 mg per day), topical 2% minoxidil solution and topical 2% ketoconazole shampoo alone and in combination.

They were randomized into four groups.

Group I (30 patients) was administered oral finasteride,

Group II (36 patients) was given a combination of finasteride and topical minoxidil,

Group III (24 patients) applied minoxidil alone and

Group IV (10 patients) was administered finasteride with topical ketoconazole.

Treatment efficacy was assessed on the basis of patient and physician assessment scores and global photographic review during the study period of one year.

At the end of one year, hair growth was observed in all the groups with best results recorded with a combination of finasteride and minoxidil (Group II) followed by groups IV, I and III.

Subjects receiving finasteride alone or in combination with minoxidil or ketoconazole showed statistically significant improvement (p<0.05) over minoxidil only recipients. No signifcant side-effects related to the drugs were observed.

In conclusion, it is inferred that the therapeutic efficacy is enhanced by combining the two drugs acting on different aetiological aspects of AGA.









» What do you people think about the effectiveness of adding 1% or 2% Nizoral
» Shampoo to Propacia?
» (not for hair growth, but for the halting or the reduction of hair loss)

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06.05.2008, 08:39

@ Wiskers

Nizoral Shampoo

Med Hypotheses. 2004;62(1):112-5

Ketocazole as an adjunct to finasteride in the treatment of androgenetic alopecia in men.

Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) binding to androgen receptors (AR) in hair follicles is commonly accepted as the first step leading to the miniaturizing of follicles associated with androgenetic alopecia (AGA).

Testosterone is converted to DHT by the enzyme 5alpha-reductase. Finasateride a 5alpha-reducase inhibitor blocks the production of DHT and is currently used to treat AGA. The inhibition is not complete but a reduction of DHT systemically and in the scalp is accomplished. Ketoconazole has been clinically shown to be effective in the treatment of AGA.

In this paper, evidence is presented to support the hypothesis that ketoconazole 2% shampoo has a local disruption of the DHT pathway. It is proposed that using ketoconazole 2% shampoo as an adjunct to finasteride treatment could lead to a more complete inhibition of DHT and thus better treat AGA.







» What do you people think about the effectiveness of adding 1% or 2% Nizoral
» Shampoo to Propacia?
» (not for hair growth, but for the halting or the reduction of hair loss)

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HanginInThere

06.05.2008, 08:46

@ HairSite Admin

The shampoo is too harsh, use the cream

» Med Hypotheses. 2004;62(1):112-5
»
» Ketocazole as an adjunct to finasteride in the treatment of
» androgenetic alopecia in men.
»
» Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) binding to androgen receptors (AR) in hair
» follicles is commonly accepted as the first step leading to the
» miniaturizing of follicles associated with androgenetic alopecia (AGA).
»
» Testosterone is converted to DHT by the enzyme 5alpha-reductase.
» Finasateride a 5alpha-reducase inhibitor blocks the production of DHT and
» is currently used to treat AGA. The inhibition is not complete but a
» reduction of DHT systemically and in the scalp is accomplished.
» Ketoconazole has been clinically shown to be effective in the treatment of
» AGA.
»
» In this paper, evidence is presented to support the hypothesis that
» ketoconazole 2% shampoo has a local disruption of the DHT pathway. It is
» proposed that using ketoconazole 2% shampoo as an adjunct to finasteride
» treatment could lead to a more complete inhibition of DHT and thus better
» treat AGA.
»
»
»
»
»
»
»
» » What do you people think about the effectiveness of adding 1% or 2%
» Nizoral
» » Shampoo to Propacia?
» » (not for hair growth, but for the halting or the reduction of hair loss)


i still say the shampoo is way too harsh, have you ever used it? it will scour your head of hairs

the cream is much better., stays on your head longer too, is gentler

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Hangin Regimen...........Warning this regimen may cause you to hallucinate , also might cause you to follow hangin around on the board crying,like Rev or the Natural if it does not work, or petition for hangin to be banned. If this occurs, seek mental counseling quickly.

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg
2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo

rev

06.05.2008, 17:12

@ HanginInThere

The shampoo is too harsh, use the cream

» i still say the shampoo is way too harsh, have you ever used it? it will
» scour your head of hairs
»
» the cream is much better., stays on your head longer too, is gentler

ARE YOU A DOCTOR OR A SCIENTIST?



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HanginInThere

07.05.2008, 04:35
(edited by HanginInThere, 07.05.2008, 04:42)

@ rev

The shampoo is too harsh, use the cream

» » i still say the shampoo is way too harsh, have you ever used it? it will
» » scour your head of hairs
» »
» » the cream is much better., stays on your head longer too, is gentler
»
» ARE YOU A DOCTOR OR A SCIENTIST?
»
»
»
» .

lets see how long do you
let shampoo stay on your head? 2 hours? thats the minimum most guys put the cream on......................does that take a rocket scientist to figure out?

guess that goes over your head

Go out and buy some Hcl, hydrochloric acid, and put it on your head......see how that feels. Gentle? Hardly................this is what is in the niz shampoo, that makes your hair so parched and dry, that is why it is described as HARSH. The cream has no Hcl in it. I guess, again it would take a rocket scientist to figure out that not putting acid on your head is better than putting it on your head...............:-D

yes i have a PHD in HairOlogy

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Hangin Regimen...........Warning this regimen may cause you to hallucinate , also might cause you to follow hangin around on the board crying,like Rev or the Natural if it does not work, or petition for hangin to be banned. If this occurs, seek mental counseling quickly.

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg
2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo

rev

07.05.2008, 05:19

@ HanginInThere

The shampoo is too harsh, use the cream

yes i have a PHD in HairOlogy

It also sounds like you sit at home all day with a load of cream on your head.




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Hangin Regimen
- offer hair regrowth advice without expertise or photographic proof
- admit picking on hairsite members is your only hobby
- loiter on hairsite 24hours/day
- consume enough DHT blockers to render a horse impotent
- sit at home all day with a load of cream on his head

hangin - Rev is a bald loser, a virgin, and a retard. He is a douchebag. He is broke, homeless and desperate. Rev plucks out insect parts to entertain himself. He and maneless share the rubber room. Rev is plotting with Skiploss to get me banned. Rev and maneless are fascinated with 14 yr old sex slaves. I have more hair than Rev; pity him. You guys are cry babies. Filipinos never admit anything, but I'm not a bigot. Rev is a very pathetic person. I use more emoticons than a twelve year old school girl, etc, etc, etc...
rev - dude. you're 43, grow up.

HanginInThere

07.05.2008, 06:11

@ rev

The shampoo is too harsh, use the cream

» yes i have a PHD in HairOlogy
»
» It also sounds like you sit at home all day with a load of cream on your
» head.
»
»
»
»
» .

sounds like another one of your gay fantasies

---
Hangin Regimen...........Warning this regimen may cause you to hallucinate , also might cause you to follow hangin around on the board crying,like Rev or the Natural if it does not work, or petition for hangin to be banned. If this occurs, seek mental counseling quickly.

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg
2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo

rev

07.05.2008, 06:14

@ HanginInThere

The shampoo is too harsh, use the cream

» » yes i have a PHD in HairOlogy
» »
» » It also sounds like you sit at home all day with a load of cream on
» your
» » head.
» »
» »
» »
» »
» » .
»
» sounds like another one of your gay fantasies
DUDE!!! I was merely talking about Nizoral Cream.
What were you thinking about?


.

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Hangin Regimen
- offer hair regrowth advice without expertise or photographic proof
- admit picking on hairsite members is your only hobby
- loiter on hairsite 24hours/day
- consume enough DHT blockers to render a horse impotent
- sit at home all day with a load of cream on his head

hangin - Rev is a bald loser, a virgin, and a retard. He is a douchebag. He is broke, homeless and desperate. Rev plucks out insect parts to entertain himself. He and maneless share the rubber room. Rev is plotting with Skiploss to get me banned. Rev and maneless are fascinated with 14 yr old sex slaves. I have more hair than Rev; pity him. You guys are cry babies. Filipinos never admit anything, but I'm not a bigot. Rev is a very pathetic person. I use more emoticons than a twelve year old school girl, etc, etc, etc...
rev - dude. you're 43, grow up.

HanginInThere

07.05.2008, 13:37
(edited by HanginInThere, 07.05.2008, 14:04)

@ rev

The shampoo is too harsh, use the cream

» » » yes i have a PHD in HairOlogy
» » »
» » » It also sounds like you sit at home all day with a load of cream on
» » your
» » » head.
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » » .
» »
» » sounds like another one of your gay fantasies
» DUDE!!! I was merely talking about Nizoral Cream.
» What were you thinking about?
»
»
» .

sure.................................we believe you,,,,,,,,gay guys dont just ..accidentally...........make statements about other guys and cream........we see through your little charade..............

between statements like this and your constant begging for other guys to give you pleasure, you pretty much confirm your gayness

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Hangin Regimen...........Warning this regimen may cause you to hallucinate , also might cause you to follow hangin around on the board crying,like Rev or the Natural if it does not work, or petition for hangin to be banned. If this occurs, seek mental counseling quickly.

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg
2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo

rev

07.05.2008, 17:57

@ HanginInThere

The shampoo is too harsh, use the cream

» » » » yes i have a PHD in HairOlogy
» » » »
» » » » It also sounds like you sit at home all day with a load of cream on
» » » your
» » » » head.
» » » »
» » » »
» » » »
» » » »
» » » » .
» » »
» » » sounds like another one of your gay fantasies
» » DUDE!!! I was merely talking about Nizoral Cream.
» » What were you thinking about?
» »
» »
» » .
»
» sure.................................we believe you,,,,,,,,gay guys dont
» just ..accidentally...........make statements about other guys and
» cream........we see through your little charade..............
»
» between statements like this and your constant begging for other guys to
» give you pleasure, you pretty much confirm your gayness

wow. just wow.

checkingin

08.05.2008, 10:16

@ Wiskers

Nizoral Shampoo

» What do you people think about the effectiveness of adding 1% or 2% Nizoral
» Shampoo to Propacia?
» (not for hair growth, but for the halting or the reduction of hair loss)

2% shampoo works better. Hanging is right that the Nizoral brand shampoo is very harsh.

Active Ingredients: Contains: Ketoconazole (1 %)

Inactive Ingredients: Water, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Cocamide MEA, Sodium Cocoyl Sarcosinate, Glycol Distearate, Acrylic Acid Polymer (Carbomer 1342), Fragrance, Sodium Chloride, Tetrasodium EDTA, Butylated Hydroxytoluene, Quaternium 15, Polyquaternium 7, Sodium Hydroxide, Hydrochloric Acid, FD&C Blue 1

Dr Lee's (www.minoxidil.com)Keto 2% shampoo much less harsh

The ingredients of the Regrowth Treatment Shampoo include: Ketoconazole 2%, Salicylic Acid 3%, purified water, hydrolyzed keratin protein, quarternium 19, sodium styrene/acrylates/divinylbenzene polymer, sodium laureth cocamidopropyl betaine, sodium laureth sulfate, panthenol, soapbark, citric acid, allantoin, methylparaben, glyceryl PABA, sodium chloride, fragrance, red coloring, imidurea, sodium hydroxide

Neither one is meant to be left on for more than 2-5 minutes in shower. I do believe 2% cream Hangin talks about is way more effective, but it is a pain to apply especially if you have hair longer than 1/2 inch. I know that you can get keto tablets and crush them and put them in minoxidil. There was a guy on this forum who did that with very good success (69 something??).

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Pete2

08.05.2008, 13:34

@ Wiskers

PTO Shampoo

» What do you people think about the effectiveness of adding 1% or 2% Nizoral
» Shampoo to Propacia?
» (not for hair growth, but for the halting or the reduction of hair loss)


Try a PTO Shampoo - you may be surprised that its just as effective!




Regards
Pete

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1)Shampoo for Inflammation: Piroctone Olamine shampoo /Essential oil blend / Calosol shampoo
2)Topical: Calosol Anti-inflammation Topical Spray (to be added)
3)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium (to be added)

louis9

09.05.2008, 20:28

@ HanginInThere

Nizoral Shampoo

Go to your dermatologist, ask for a prescription called Olux - the same way rogane was made into an easy to apply foam, so is Nizoral - the stuff works and is SIMPLE SIMPLE SIMPLE to apply, if you have insurance, there is a generic and 2 months will cost you 10 bucks.
Louis

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