BostonBaldy
21.07.2008, 11:35
(edited by BostonBaldy, 21.07.2008, 11:46) |
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Here's the link:
http://harvardskinstudies.org/alopecia001.asp
I received this link from Follica, Inc., so it definitely is the real deal. However, the website says the trial will "not treat baldness." WTF?!?
All the best,
BB
P.S. Should I do it??
P.P.S. Anyone else interested in doing it?
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Sceptic
21.07.2008, 11:54
@ BostonBaldy
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» I received this link from Follica, Inc., so it definitely is the real
» deal. However, the website says the trial will "not treat baldness."
» WTF?!?
I guess they mean you aren't treating your hair loss ( propecia, minox, ... ) while the trial is being done.
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goata007
21.07.2008, 12:05
@ BostonBaldy
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» I received this link from Follica, Inc., so it definitely is the real
» deal. However, the website says the trial will "not treat baldness."
» WTF?!?
Probably like Intercytex, they won't be applying the compound to the entire scalp to treat baldness, but only checking for efficacy by applying it to a smaller area. Since they mention at least 1-inch bald spot, i'm guessing they'd only be doing first-trials on a 1-inch area.
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Striver
21.07.2008, 12:08
@ BostonBaldy
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» Here's the link:
» http://harvardskinstudies.org/alopecia001.asp
»
» I received this link from Follica, Inc., so it definitely is the real
» deal. However, the website says the trial will "not treat baldness."
» WTF?!?
»
» All the best,
» BB
»
» P.S. Should I do it??
» P.P.S. Anyone else interested in doing it?
Yeah I think they mean you should not treat baldness during their experiment. I sent an e-mail to them today and basically got an automated response:
Thanks for your interest in Follica.
Our publically shared information can be found on our website. We are
committed to driving this technology forward and are enthusiastic about
the potential. With that said, developing a new treatment takes time and
we appreciate your patience as we progress in a diligent manner.
Your support is very important to us and encourages us to move forward
as quickly as possible.
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Mamoli
21.07.2008, 12:52
@ Striver
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This is great news! That they start means that this stuf has serious potential! But unfortunately they haven't started yet, so it will take some more time to get this cure. Time is precious, but better late then never.
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helpme007
21.07.2008, 13:03
@ Mamoli
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» but better late then never.
thats a good sentence to sum up the sense of this forum.
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biston
21.07.2008, 13:09
@ BostonBaldy
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» Here's the link:
» http://harvardskinstudies.org/alopecia001.asp
»
» I received this link from Follica, Inc., so it definitely is the real
» deal. However, the website says the trial will "not treat baldness."
» WTF?!?
»
» All the best,
» BB
»
» P.S. Should I do it??
» P.P.S. Anyone else interested in doing it?
"will not treat baldness" is a requirement to join the test group
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goata007
21.07.2008, 13:11
@ BostonBaldy
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I called the number listed on that page and following are the key points:
1) It IS being done by Follica.
2) Duration is 60 days.
3) They will only dermabrade small area on your scalp, They Won't adminster any compounds on your scalp.
4) They will take two really small (4mm) biopsies to observe new regrowth. She specially noted that the new growth will not necessarily be visible to human eye.
5) She also mentioned some procedure that will look into your scalp for possible scarring and stuff.
6) They won't pay travel expenses, so people in boston area are better suited for this.
7) And obviously, you can't be on propecia, rogaine etc etc.
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Mamoli
21.07.2008, 13:18
@ goata007
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» I called the number listed on that page and following are the key points:
»
» 1) It IS being done by Follica.
» 2) Duration is 60 days.
» 3) They will only dermabrade small area on your scalp, They Won't
» adminster any compounds on your scalp.
» 4) They will take two really small (4mm) biopsies to observe new regrowth.
» She specially noted that the new growth will not necessarily be visible to
» human eye.
» 5) She also mentioned some procedure that will look into your scalp for
» possible scarring and stuff.
» 6) They won't pay travel expenses, so people in boston area are better
» suited for this.
» 7) And obviously, you can't be on propecia, rogaine etc etc.
Thanks for your effort.
But point 3 is strange. What is the sense of this?? The whole point is the miracle compound in combination with the scalp dermabration, not the injury of the scalp by itself. We all can do that, we don't need a 60 day trial for that. Point 3 is definately strange and puts no value to all of this.
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RiuraO
Spain,
21.07.2008, 13:57
@ Mamoli
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Probably they are doing a very first stage , to see the safety results of the dermoabration, for example to see if several dermabration are performed could result in tumour or cancer. who knows !!!!
» Thanks for your effort.
»
» But point 3 is strange. What is the sense of this?? The whole point is the
» miracle compound in combination with the scalp dermabration, not the injury
» of the scalp by itself. We all can do that, we don't need a 60 day trial
» for that. Point 3 is definately strange and puts no value to all of this.
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FatalEvolution
21.07.2008, 13:59
@ helpme007
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» » but better late then never.
»
» thats a good sentence to sum up the sense of this forum.
here's another one : Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end.
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biston
21.07.2008, 14:03
@ RiuraO
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It seems we are really far away, however, that's right ? the first data results are expect to become avaiable in the first half of 2009 do you think guys ? or later maybe..
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goata007
21.07.2008, 14:17
@ Mamoli
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» But point 3 is strange. What is the sense of this?? The whole point is the
» miracle compound in combination with the scalp dermabration, not the injury
» of the scalp by itself. We all can do that, we don't need a 60 day trial
» for that. Point 3 is definately strange and puts no value to all of this.
She specifically mentioned scalp scarring, so I guess at the first stage they are just trying to learn more about the bald scalp - which I think is essential for a cure!
on the bright side, it's only 60 days long and they are referring to it as a Research Study - so it's not really a trial. I think they are using this as a quick way to get data on scalp health and maybe to check for fibrosis, blood flow etc etc, so they can formulate their first trial better.
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Baccy
21.07.2008, 14:26
@ goata007
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I can save them the time. It DOES work because I am certain I have hair growing where before there were none. However, at the moment, I do not have any cosmetic significance but I'm only on Day 20. Certain light shows up little black dots on close scrutiny (hate to sound like 'Black Dot Ken') but these are not large enough to constitute a hair shadow as yet. Maybe they never will be but I'm convinced enough to try again soon with tannic acid (low concentration).
The question is not whether it works but whether it is cosmetically beneficial.
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Mr.Fantastic
21.07.2008, 14:42
@ Baccy
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» I can save them the time. It DOES work because I am certain I have hair
» growing where before there were none. However, at the moment, I do not have
» any cosmetic significance but I'm only on Day 20. Certain light shows up
» little black dots on close scrutiny (hate to sound like 'Black Dot Ken')
» but these are not large enough to constitute a hair shadow as yet. Maybe
» they never will be but I'm convinced enough to try again soon with tannic
» acid (low concentration).
» The question is not whether it works but whether it is cosmetically
» beneficial.
Good sh!t Baccy, I believe you. 20 days is still way too early to tell how terminal those hairs will end up. My fingers are crossed for you -- best of luck.
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Sceptic
21.07.2008, 14:49
@ Baccy
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» The question is not whether it works but whether it is cosmetically
» beneficial.
it's the same thing.
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Baccy
21.07.2008, 15:06
@ Sceptic
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» » The question is not whether it works but whether it is cosmetically
» » beneficial.
»
» it's the same thing.
There ARE different levels of cosmetically acceptable. As I've stressed in the past, one man's baldness is another man's hirsuteness. I don't want to look like Cousin It. I want what probably most of you guys would call bald.
Low density, short cropped hair just to take the edge off a large expanse of bald scalp. I don't want a hairline that doubles as a moustache. It would look silly at my age and undermine my masculinity.
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cal
21.07.2008, 15:07
@ Sceptic
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This sounds like the equivalent of a phase#1 test.
"Let's do one round this way first, just to make sure we're not gonna kill anybody before we go any farther."
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benji
21.07.2008, 15:15
@ Sceptic
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Great news! |
The word "HARVARD" should mean a lot to all of you.
That means this trial is serious business and the company is certainly no joke.
Only treating a small bald spot w/out any other adjuvants is a great way to see what pathways are activated in vivo with a human being in response to abrasion and if hair follicle placodes, cells, proto hairs start development without any chemical help at all.
Remember in Experiment 7 of the Patent, the one they were able to replicate, they simply abraded human skin grafted to a SCID mouse and were able to get hair germs by day 7. That was donor area skin though, obtained from strip-scar hair transplant clinics that would have been thrown away. This is bald MPB scalp----that sometimes has some micro-scarring from micro-inflammation due to the MPB immunological events over many years.
If they find pathway x or y is initiated in vivo in response to abrasion, CO2 lasers, soundwaves, chemical peels or whatever, they might be able to take away some of the adjuvants they feel are necessary to coax the epidermal stem cells to build new follicles------or they may find they need to add some other stimulatory compounds (fiberblast growth factor or topical beta catenin or whatever). This will be an excellent way to determine what exactly happens in the skin of live people in response to abrasion in MPB-scalp.
The fact that this is being done at Harvard after being researched at Penn should be very encouraging to everyone here.
BTW-------There are no 'magic compounds'. If you read the patent, Follica tells you EXACTLY what they are considering using as adjuvants in a topical forumulation......EGF-antagonists, potassium channel openiers, Nitric Oxide agonists, retinoids, perhpaps immunosuppressants (they will no doubt be looking for particular immuno markers in skin in response to the wounding), anti-microbials, and anti-inflammatories, and possibly fiberblast growth factors like FGF7, and maybe beta catenin and wnt-protiens or wnt-mimetics like LiCl.
These experiments are a great way to see if some of those can be shed or another thing or two has to be added for EDIHN hairs to grow on MPB scalp as opposed to donor-area scalp etc.
The ball is rolling though.............................We had to wait three years for ICX to go from phase one to phase two while rolling our fingers.
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TAGOHL
21.07.2008, 15:18
@ goata007
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Thanks for the information.
My sense is that they are trying to guage how scalps will react to abrasion. This will give them info on healing time (to help them define a timeline for when a typical person should start applying the drugs), as well as info on any possible side-effects (scarring, infection, etc.) Also, by just doing abrasion alone with the bopsies, they will eventually know how much the drugs contribute to the overall result (i.e., you compare hair counts from abrasion alone to abrasion + drugs.)
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biston
21.07.2008, 15:55
@ cal
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» This sounds like the equivalent of a phase#1 test.
»
»
» "Let's do one round this way first, just to make sure we're not gonna kill
» anybody before we go any farther."
how can they kill anybody with a simplie dermabrasion?! they are not doing what u said, they may wants to know better how the scalp respond to dermabrasion before they plan the next step of the trials
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Mamoli
21.07.2008, 15:59
@ biston
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We must show in some way that we are eargerly waiting for this cure!! Ofcourse they know that al baldies are dying to have this cure, but the more we make them hear the better.
Let's call or send Harvard a mail all together and ask info about this "trial",
Yooooo I am happyyyyyyyy
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Willy
21.07.2008, 16:39
@ BostonBaldy
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I've been comming to this site for over 5 years. I've was here when JB, JTR, Maneless, Alecbaldone posted here often. This is the first time in a long time that I feel pretty positive that something will be on the market for us in the not too distant future. I have a good feeling about Acell and Follica. Lets keep our fingers crossed.
Take Care,
Bill
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Tricky95
21.07.2008, 17:02
@ BostonBaldy
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BostonBaldy... To answer your question... If you live in Boston, then 100% you should do it. If I lived there, I would be there without a doubt... No question about it.... Worst case, you can tell us EXACTLY what method of 'dermabrasion' they use for those doing home tests....
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Sceptic
21.07.2008, 17:16
@ Mamoli
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» We must show in some way that we are eargerly waiting for this cure!!
» Ofcourse they know that al baldies are dying to have this cure, but the
» more we make them hear the better.
»
» Let's call or send Harvard a mail all together and ask info about this
» "trial",
»
» Yooooo I am happyyyyyyyy
sarcasm ?
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haveyouseenmyhair?
21.07.2008, 17:31
@ Tricky95
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So now we know they have begun trials what kind of trial do we think it is? - phase 0 - or does it look likely that they are pursuing a faster route to market....
or are we still in the dark?
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goata007
21.07.2008, 19:28
@ biston
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» » This sounds like the equivalent of a phase#1 test.
» »
» »
» » "Let's do one round this way first, just to make sure we're not gonna
» kill
» » anybody before we go any farther."
»
» how can they kill anybody with a simplie dermabrasion?! they are not doing
» what u said, they may wants to know better how the scalp respond to
» dermabrasion before they plan the next step of the trials
Guys, its a Research Study NOT a trial...they're probably looking at the phisiology of the bald scalp so they can better design formulate their technique.
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BostonBaldy
21.07.2008, 20:14
@ Tricky95
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Yeah, I live in Boston but I don't think I'll do the study b/c my hair loss is at the front, not the back. In case there is scarring, I'd prefer not to have it in the front... though I would like to know the method, e.g., are they using a CO2 laser, fraxel laser, sandpaper (lol), what??
» BostonBaldy... To answer your question... If you live in Boston, then 100%
» you should do it. If I lived there, I would be there without a doubt... No
» question about it.... Worst case, you can tell us EXACTLY what method of
» 'dermabrasion' they use for those doing home tests....
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BostonBaldy
21.07.2008, 20:15
@ benji
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Great news! |
» The word "HARVARD" should mean a lot to all of you.
Yes, the "Harvard" connection is promising... though I expected it. Cotsarelis et al. I'm sure have friends in the dermatology department there.
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Striver
21.07.2008, 20:48
@ benji
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Great news! |
» The word "HARVARD" should mean a lot to all of you.
»
»
» That means this trial is serious business and the company is certainly no
» joke.
»
»
» Only treating a small bald spot w/out any other adjuvants is a great way
» to see what pathways are activated in vivo with a human being in response
» to abrasion and if hair follicle placodes, cells, proto hairs start
» development without any chemical help at all.
»
»
» Remember in Experiment 7 of the Patent, the one they were able to
» replicate, they simply abraded human skin grafted to a SCID mouse and were
» able to get hair germs by day 7. That was donor area skin though, obtained
» from strip-scar hair transplant clinics that would have been thrown away.
» This is bald MPB scalp----that sometimes has some micro-scarring from
» micro-inflammation due to the MPB immunological events over many years.
»
»
» If they find pathway x or y is initiated in vivo in response to abrasion,
» CO2 lasers, soundwaves, chemical peels or whatever, they might be able to
» take away some of the adjuvants they feel are necessary to coax the
» epidermal stem cells to build new follicles------or they may find they need
» to add some other stimulatory compounds (fiberblast growth factor or
» topical beta catenin or whatever). This will be an excellent way to
» determine what exactly happens in the skin of live people in response to
» abrasion in MPB-scalp.
»
»
» The fact that this is being done at Harvard after being researched at Penn
» should be very encouraging to everyone here.
»
»
»
»
»
» BTW-------There are no 'magic compounds'. If you read the patent, Follica
» tells you EXACTLY what they are considering using as adjuvants in a topical
» forumulation......EGF-antagonists, potassium channel openiers, Nitric Oxide
» agonists, retinoids, perhpaps immunosuppressants (they will no doubt be
» looking for particular immuno markers in skin in response to the wounding),
» anti-microbials, and anti-inflammatories, and possibly fiberblast growth
» factors like FGF7, and maybe beta catenin and wnt-protiens or wnt-mimetics
» like LiCl.
» These experiments are a great way to see if some of those can be shed or
» another thing or two has to be added for EDIHN hairs to grow on MPB scalp
» as opposed to donor-area scalp etc.
»
»
» The ball is rolling though.............................We had to wait
» three years for ICX to go from phase one to phase two while rolling our
» fingers.
I think one of the doctors in their team is at Harvard.
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Hairlover
21.07.2008, 21:21
@ BostonBaldy
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Damn, if they're only doing this now its gonna be some time before this treatment is available for the paying public. Lets hope some of the home trialers here strike lucky because I dunno if I can wait another 3/4 years...
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hair101
Miami,
21.07.2008, 22:12
@ BostonBaldy
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Did it say what kind of time frame we are talking about here? How long before it hits the market.
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cal
21.07.2008, 22:14
@ Hairlover
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3-4 years? That depends how badly you want your hair back.
It has been said dozens of times in the last 3-6 months: Existing dermatological procedure + existing drugs. Nothing else.
If you don't believe it will be derived from all existing stuff, then that's your choice. I'm not here to change your mind.
But to come to that viewpoint, you had to want that viewpoint. The evidence has never said or implied anything to suggest any all-new substances or methods.
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rev
your nightmares,
21.07.2008, 22:45
@ Hairlover
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» Damn, if they're only doing this now its gonna be some time before this
» treatment is available for the paying public. Lets hope some of the home
» trialers here strike lucky because I dunno if I can wait another 3/4
» years...
Our ancestors have-been dying bald for thousands of years; whereas we have a chance to see an actual cure within our lifetimes. Heck, 3/4 years would be a cakewalk if we knew unequivocally Follica had something commercially feasible.
Besides, I don't understand the complaints coming from people right now. The first time most of us heard of Follica was in January when their funding was announced, and they did say trials would start this summer. Thus far, they're staying true to their word. That's a hell-of-allot more than we got from Aderans or InterCytex.
.
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Mamoli
21.07.2008, 23:51
@ Sceptic
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» » We must show in some way that we are eargerly waiting for this cure!!
» » Ofcourse they know that al baldies are dying to have this cure, but the
» » more we make them hear the better.
» »
» » Let's call or send Harvard a mail all together and ask info about this
» » "trial",
» »
» » Yooooo I am happyyyyyyyy
»
» sarcasm ?
Ofcourse not! I am just happy that is has started.
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debris
22.07.2008, 01:05
@ goata007
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»
» Guys, its a Research Study NOT a trial...they're probably looking at the
» phisiology of the bald scalp so they can better design formulate their
» technique.
Well said. All in all, its awesome that this company finally makes the step and gives up on useless research on mice.
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Sceptic
22.07.2008, 04:06
@ Sceptic
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» » I received this link from Follica, Inc., so it definitely is the real
» » deal. However, the website says the trial will "not treat baldness."
» » WTF?!?
»
» I guess they mean you aren't treating your hair loss ( propecia, minox,
» ... ) while the trial is being done.
I was wrong, it just looks that they want to see the skin reaction to dermabrasion now, nothing more ... so they say "not treat baldness". For people believing in follica, I would recommend them to be very patient, it's going to be long. On the other side, if they are doing the "real" dermabrasion, then it's a major procedure with some risks, much more than microdermabrasion and medium peelings.
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MPB
22.07.2008, 06:56
@ cal
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» The
» evidence has never said or implied anything to suggest any all-new
» substances or methods.
I guess so but the NBC Today Show spot with Matt Lauer had a different implication.
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MPB
22.07.2008, 07:05
@ rev
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» Besides, I don't understand the complaints coming from people right now.
» The first time most of us heard of Follica was in January when their
» funding was announced, and they did say trials would start this summer.
» Thus far, they're staying true to their word. That's a hell-of-allot more
» than we got from Aderans or InterCytex.
»
That's a good point. I only wish they would do simultaneous testing on areas of the scalp that aren't exposed to fibrosis to see how the efficacy is in the production of de novo hair in "good skin " areas....or maybe this is only to test the reaction of certain wounding depths... but then shouldn't they do this on all area's of the scalp?
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Striver
22.07.2008, 08:04
@ hair101
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» Did it say what kind of time frame we are talking about here? How long
» before it hits the market.
What would be good is that someone from HairSite that lives close to Boston attends the trials. One could then ask them on the spot the usual questions: how long until the "real" trials, what is the next step, is everything in the patent, what do they expect, estimated release date, etc. Maybe they will disclose some of the information.
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hairboy2008
28.07.2008, 04:10
@ Tricky95
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I would do the trial, too. |
» BostonBaldy... To answer your question... If you live in Boston, then 100%
» you should do it. If I lived there, I would be there without a doubt... No
» question about it.... Worst case, you can tell us EXACTLY what method of
» 'dermabrasion' they use for those doing home tests....
If I lived in Boston I would try to get into the trial, too. Having an inside source would be great. But being a part of history, IF this ended up working, would be even better.
You live only one life. You might as well do something beneficial for mankind if you have the chance. This trial is a chance to do that.
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scalpt
11.08.2008, 11:19
@ Striver
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Anyone tried to contact Harvard/Follica about the trials? |
» » Did it say what kind of time frame we are talking about here? How long
» » before it hits the market.
» What would be good is that someone from HairSite that lives close to
» Boston attends the trials. One could then ask them on the spot the usual
» questions: how long until the "real" trials, what is the next step, is
» everything in the patent, what do they expect, estimated release date, etc.
» Maybe they will disclose some of the information.
Earlier someone had the idea that we should contact someone involved in the research study for more info. Has anyone tried this yet? Does anyone have the contact info?
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Baccy
11.08.2008, 12:20
@ BostonBaldy
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Follica Trials Beginning Now: Follow the Link |
» Yeah, I live in Boston but I don't think I'll do the study b/c my hair loss
» is at the front, not the back. In case there is scarring, I'd prefer not to
» have it in the front... though I would like to know the method, e.g., are
» they using a CO2 laser, fraxel laser, sandpaper (lol), what??
»
I don't think there'll be scarring. I really did a number on my scalp and it's healed beautifully. I sanded it heavily until it was red raw and then I slapped a 30% acid peel onto the raw skin. I almost passed out with the pain but I've proven to myself that the procedure works. I look forward to my next wounding with an improved protocol.
I emailed Follica sometime ago to register for trials but after the Intercytex fiasco, I don't hold my breath. I'll do it myself if I can.
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Baccy
11.08.2008, 12:26
@ Sceptic
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Follica Trials Beginning Now: Follow the Link |
On the other side, if they are doing the "real"
» dermabrasion, then it's a major procedure with some risks, much more than
» microdermabrasion and medium peelings.
He'll be fine. My head was a battlefield and the skin looks great now. I did the entire NW7 scalp. It was well worth doing.
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Dogstar
11.08.2008, 13:37
@ Baccy
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Follica Trials Beginning Now: Follow the Link |
I think someone has posted this link before, http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/543239/
In this article it mentions, One potential method involves using an abrasive gel to gently damage the skin and then topical cream to switch on the follicle-generating genes. It does sound like the method follica will be using.
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haircoach
11.08.2008, 17:02
@ scalpt
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Anyone tried to contact Harvard/Follica about the trials? |
Contact Information:
Clinical Unit for Research Trials in Skin: 617-726-5066
harvardskinstudies@partners.org
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scalpt
11.08.2008, 19:16
@ haircoach
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Anyone tried to contact Harvard/Follica about the trials? |
» Contact Information:
» Clinical Unit for Research Trials in Skin: 617-726-5066
» harvardskinstudies@partners.org
Thanks for the info  I wonder how the hell I would ask them for information on this hehe...
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goata007
11.08.2008, 20:39
@ scalpt
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Anyone tried to contact Harvard/Follica about the trials? |
» Earlier someone had the idea that we should contact someone involved in
» the research study for more info. Has anyone tried this yet? Does anyone
» have the contact info?
Read my second post on this thread.
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"If we knew what it was that we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein |
scalpt
14.08.2008, 09:49
@ goata007
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Anyone tried to contact Harvard/Follica about the trials? |
» » Earlier someone had the idea that we should contact someone involved in
» » the research study for more info. Has anyone tried this yet? Does
» anyone
» » have the contact info?
»
» Read my second post on this thread.
Thanks goata
BTW, the page doesn't seem to be working. Have the trials begun already?
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