haircoach
26.08.2008, 07:35 |
Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years (Hair Multiplication & Research) |
Hallo to our hopes…Zohar says “4/5 years by now…”
http://www.fiercebiotech.com/special-reports/emerging-drug-developer-follica
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rev
your nightmares,
26.08.2008, 07:47
@ haircoach
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
" And the company has enough money to push the program through proof-of-concept toward an NDA - a path that's likely to take an accelerated development path that compresses the usual early and mid-stage trials into a 24- to 36-month window. An approval could conceivably be won in four to five years.
"What's nice about it," she adds, "is that even though this is based on breakthrough science, we are using existing compounds previously approved for systemic chronic use and reformulating them for topical acute use. We know these compounds are safe in people."
That article hints of accelerated trials, and topical formulations. Interesting indeed.
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InterCytex –noun
a place where good ideas go to die.
Follica –noun
a clandestine organization that puts the C.I.A to shame.
Ken Washenik, MD, PhD –noun
inventor of the world famous "5 year" timeline |
baldlatino34
26.08.2008, 07:54
@ rev
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
IF FOLLICA TO LEAD ENTERS 4… 5 YEARS TO LAUNCH ITS PRODUCT IN THE MARKET I REALLY WAITS THAT ALREADY IT EXISTS OTHER COMPANIES BEFORE IN THE MARKET, AS INTERCYTEX, OR EVEN THOUGH MODELS RESULTED CARETAKERS OF DERMOBRASION GIVING GOOD, WE CANNOT WAIT FOR MORE AS MUCH TIME… I WAIT THAT THIS INFORMATION IS MISSED.
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biston
26.08.2008, 09:02
@ haircoach
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
As I said in other topics, if they sad 4-5 years, it means at least 7-8 years, say cya to your hair
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debris
26.08.2008, 09:07
@ haircoach
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
» Hallo to our hopes…Zohar says “4/5 years by now…”
»
» http://www.fiercebiotech.com/special-reports/emerging-drug-developer-follica
So the "trolls" vs "naive & silly": 1 : 0.
In fact its more like 100 : 0 already if you count all the silly timescales given to all the previous treatments.
and the 4/5 is probably pretty optimistic estimate. If everything goes well. Which is a bit naive to expect in a stage when we dont even know if it works.
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Anyway lets focus on self help. Thats the only real hope.
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biston
26.08.2008, 09:15
@ debris
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
So sad 
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cricket
26.08.2008, 09:18
@ debris
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nda times are shorter than past but... |
» » Hallo to our hopes…Zohar says “4/5 years by now…”
» »
» »
» http://www.fiercebiotech.com/special-reports/emerging-drug-developer-follica
»
» So the "trolls" vs "naive & silly": 1 : 0.
»
» In fact its more like 100 : 0 already if you count all the silly
» timescales given to all the previous treatments.
»
» and the 4/5 is probably pretty optimistic estimate. If everything goes
» well. Which is a bit naive to expect in a stage when we dont even know if
» it works.
»
» ===================================================================
»
» Anyway lets focus on self help. Thats the only real hope.
..debris is ( quite ) right.
Time to move ourself or nothing..
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Striver
26.08.2008, 09:19
@ biston
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
» So sad
Well maybe you are being too pessimistic. They are saying the product could get full approval in 4-5 years. It involves all the different trials, tests etc. It might be interpreted as "they have basically solved the problem, now only the administrative stuff as trials, proof of concept etc. remain, which will take about 4-5 years". Also, it could be launched earlier, when it's in phase 3 maybe. So I don't think one can conclude so much from that article. Could be positive and negative.
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cms
26.08.2008, 09:34
@ biston
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
» As I said in other topics, if they sad 4-5 years, it means at least 7-8
» years, say cya to your hair
5 years ago that may have been a true statement. But with the Biotech revolution merging with the computer revolution, capabilities of Biotechs are doubling every year. The way technology and the understanding, actually the mastering, of science advances, 4-5 years may be a conservative estimate. There was show the other night on Discovery Hi-Def about Biotechs, it opened with the a statement about these companies have entered a new phase of medicine were they are manipulating cells to heal the body, sound familiar. What these companies have already accomplished is unbelievable, what they will be able to in 5 years is almost scary. I am 33 and looked like I am 38 because of my hair loss and thinning, but there is no doubt when I am 38 I will look 33 with my new hair. And if I take care of my body, I could enjoy the hair for 100 years.
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baldlatino34
26.08.2008, 09:43
@ debris
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
I WAIT TO SEE FOLLICA DIED IN 5 YEARS….COMPANY GARBAGE. THE TIMES I HAVE PERHAPS THAT TO ADMIT, NEVER WE WILL HAVE ONE CURE FOR OUR PROBLEM.
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SPQR
26.08.2008, 09:49
@ cricket
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IT'S NOT OFFICIAL... |
IT's an opinion of who had write the article, not an official delcaration of the follica's team... so if an optimist is stupid if he's happy by unofficial news, a pessimist is stupid the same if he is convinced about info like this....... this forum seems a virtual game, people against people, only to say "look, i've told it to you"... it's very stupid guys....
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biston
26.08.2008, 10:08
@ SPQR
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IT'S NOT OFFICIAL... |
» IT's an opinion of who had write the article, not an official delcaration
» of the follica's team...
this is true ! reading better it's almost like an opinion of the writer, not just an extrat said by daphne.. so, it may be right, or not..
nothing seems to be changed right now
however they said Follica has "compressed" in 24-36 months the fully procedure, this should be great to know in 1-2 year how many chances of success they have
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dave21
26.08.2008, 11:35
@ baldlatino34
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
Just remember it was only a couple days ago bostonbaldy had an insider mentioning that it might only be one to two years....who knows...
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bite en bois
26.08.2008, 12:02
@ biston
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IT'S NOT OFFICIAL... |
» » IT's an opinion of who had write the article, not an official
» delcaration
» » of the follica's team...
»
» this is true ! reading better it's almost like an opinion of the writer,
» not just an extrat said by daphne.. so, it may be right, or not..
»
» nothing seems to be changed right now
»
» however they said Follica has "compressed" in 24-36 months the fully
» procedure, this should be great to know in 1-2 year how many chances of
» success they have
Ok,
but how a company with only 4 full-time employees can cure the problem of badness ???
I thought, they were 20 - 25 employees at least.
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Max
26.08.2008, 12:07
(edited by Max, 26.08.2008, 12:19)
@ dave21
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
» Just remember it was only a couple days ago bostonbaldy had an insider
» mentioning that it might only be one to two years....who knows...
Do you think ,it could be a poker game with others, such as TRC,...,...,...
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Max
26.08.2008, 12:11
@ bite en bois
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IT'S NOT OFFICIAL... |
» » » IT's an opinion of who had write the article, not an official
» » delcaration
» » » of the follica's team...
» »
» » this is true ! reading better it's almost like an opinion of the
» writer,
» » not just an extrat said by daphne.. so, it may be right, or not..
» »
» » nothing seems to be changed right now
» »
» » however they said Follica has "compressed" in 24-36 months the fully
» » procedure, this should be great to know in 1-2 year how many chances of
» » success they have
»
»
» Ok,
»
» but how a company with only 4 full-time employees can cure the problem of
» badness ???
»
» I thought, they were 20 - 25 employees at least.
They have a cleaning woman too
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Striver
26.08.2008, 12:19
@ dave21
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
» Just remember it was only a couple days ago bostonbaldy had an insider
» mentioning that it might only be one to two years....who knows...
You mean the post from January this year?
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baldIsMe
26.08.2008, 13:27
@ haircoach
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
» Hallo to our hopes…Zohar says “4/5 years by now…”
»
» http://www.fiercebiotech.com/special-reports/emerging-drug-developer-follica
The way I see it, if Follica works well we will know about it soon even if the treatment will not reach market for another 5 years. If their treatment is effective they will have pictures to show us 
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biston
26.08.2008, 13:58
@ baldIsMe
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
» » Hallo to our hopes…Zohar says “4/5 years by now…”
» »
» »
» http://www.fiercebiotech.com/special-reports/emerging-drug-developer-follica
»
»
» The way I see it, if Follica works well we will know about it soon even if
» the treatment will not reach market for another 5 years. If their
» treatment is effective they will have pictures to show us
y but, when? next year? next two? how much we must wait before to know if it works or not? I hope not exactly 5 years. If it were as you said I could accept this because the idea to know NOW that surely works and will hit market in the next 3-4 years is pretty good and acceptable. However the importance of pictures is revelant, Intercytex never shows us pics, if follica will adopt the same policy will be a negative point.
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Striver
26.08.2008, 14:35
@ haircoach
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
» Hallo to our hopes…Zohar says “4/5 years by now…”
»
» http://www.fiercebiotech.com/special-reports/emerging-drug-developer-follica
It seems that the author makes the assumption about 4-5 years. Someone should contact the author and ask if Zohar herself said 4-5 years or if the author predicted that.
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Sceptic
26.08.2008, 14:42
@ bite en bois
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IT'S NOT OFFICIAL... |
» but how a company with only 4 full-time employees can cure the problem of
» badness ???
They have no holidays 
Seriously, how many diseases can be cured nowadays ? We sometimes can treat the symptoms, that's it, we can't even cure a common cold, isn't it pathetic ?
» I thought, they were 20 - 25 employees at least.
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Sceptic
26.08.2008, 14:45
@ dave21
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
» Just remember it was only a couple days ago bostonbaldy had an insider
» mentioning that it might only be one to two years....who knows...
I don't believe it because it was " a friend of a friend ", if it were " a friend of a friend of a friend " then I would be quite sure it's true.
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debris
26.08.2008, 14:46
@ Striver
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
» » So sad
» Well maybe you are being too pessimistic. They are saying the product
» could get full approval in 4-5 years. It involves all the different trials,
» tests etc. It might be interpreted as "they have basically solved the
» problem, now only the administrative stuff as trials, proof of concept etc.
» remain, which will take about 4-5 years". Also, it could be launched
» earlier, when it's in phase 3 maybe. So I don't think one can conclude so
» much from that article. Could be positive and negative.
stop lieing to yourself. If they had solved everything they would not be doing small biopsy study where no hair growth is expected.
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debris
26.08.2008, 14:49
@ Sceptic
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
» » Just remember it was only a couple days ago bostonbaldy had an insider
» » mentioning that it might only be one to two years....who knows...
»
» I don't believe it because it was " a friend of a friend ", if it were " a
» friend of a friend of a friend " then I would be quite sure it's true.
and besides, for every other promising treatment there was some psychopath friend of a friend who told friend something
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cal
26.08.2008, 14:53
@ debris
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
And this story changes, what exactly?
This isn't a "setback." This is nothing at all.
We didn't really know anything about the timeframe before the story was printed, and we don't really know anything now either.
This stuff can only break your heart if you built up your opinion based on guesswork in the first place.
We find out when we get concrete word (not suspicions) about the exact path to FDA approval.
All this guesswork before then is just mental masturbation. Whether it's coming from ourselves or an equally-uninformed writer. Or an equally uninformed Folica statement for that matter.
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bleachkit
26.08.2008, 17:49
@ Striver
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
I wish we knew exactly how it is done, so doctors in other countries could perform it, so we wouldn't have to wait on American FDA red tape. It uses already existing drugs, how hard could it be.
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Spanish Dude
26.08.2008, 19:44
@ cms
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
» » What these companies have already accomplished
» is unbelievable, what they will be able to in 5 years is almost scary. I
» am 33 and looked like I am 38 because of my hair loss and thinning, but
» there is no doubt when I am 38 I will look 33 with my new hair. And if I
» take care of my body, I could enjoy the hair for 100 years.
whatever dude, mwahaha, its clear that you are a newbie in this forum.
those of us who are here for almost a decade (or more)know pretty well what these promises mean: SH*T
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Spanish Dude
26.08.2008, 19:49
@ debris
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
» » » Just remember it was only a couple days ago bostonbaldy had an insider
» » » mentioning that it might only be one to two years....who knows...
» »
» » I don't believe it because it was " a friend of a friend ", if it were "
» a
» » friend of a friend of a friend " then I would be quite sure it's true.
»
» and besides, for every other promising treatment there was some psychopath
» friend of a friend who told friend something
Lots of friendhips in the balding community...
This is very good!!
I am sure we will regrow hair out of this universal friendship!!
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Spanish Dude
26.08.2008, 19:55
@ biston
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we will see no photos, thats for sure |
Exactly, Biston, we have been waiting for photos for 1 decade, and noone have shown us any. Except the mice sh*t.
Many doctors have become famous talking about HM, but never have shown us a single photo.
Now Follica says the treatment could be in the market ... when? in 5 years the soonest!!! HAHAHA that figure sounds too familiar.
Don't expect photos in the meantime. They will keep us waiting FOR NOTHING, and in the meantime, they will show us NOTHING.
They will be winning: publicity.
» » » Hallo to our hopes…Zohar says “4/5 years by now…”
» » »
» » »
» »
» http://www.fiercebiotech.com/special-reports/emerging-drug-developer-follica
» »
» »
» » The way I see it, if Follica works well we will know about it soon even
» if
» » the treatment will not reach market for another 5 years. If their
» » treatment is effective they will have pictures to show us
»
» y but, when? next year? next two? how much we must wait before to know if
» it works or not? I hope not exactly 5 years. If it were as you said I could
» accept this because the idea to know NOW that surely works and will hit
» market in the next 3-4 years is pretty good and acceptable. However the
» importance of pictures is revelant, Intercytex never shows us pics, if
» follica will adopt the same policy will be a negative point.
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Spanish Dude
26.08.2008, 20:06
@ haircoach
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Is Puretech creating Vapour-Companies? |
QUOTE:
>>>>
Right now, though, the Boston-based biotech is moving on with four full-time employees with plans to scale up to 10 or 12 people, keeping everything semi-virtual as it relies on outsourcing for much of the initial investigatory work.
That's the same kind of business development model that PureTech is pursuing for other therapeutic areas as well.
Says Zohar: "We have four new companies we're working on right now."
<<<<
This looks to me that Puretech is creating VAPOUR-COMPANIES. Lots of them.
(I don't know what could be the REAL purpose of these companies, maybe tax evasion or some other ugly things...)
Anyone knows if any of these new companies have been successful? I mean, any working product? Not beautiful promises.
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Spanish Dude
26.08.2008, 20:21
(edited by Spanish Dude, 26.08.2008, 20:30)
@ Spanish Dude
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Is Puretech creating Vapour-Companies? |
» QUOTE:
»
» >>>>
» Right now, though, the Boston-based biotech is moving on with four
» full-time employees with plans to scale up to 10 or 12 people, keeping
» everything semi-virtual as it relies on outsourcing for much of the initial
» investigatory work.
»
» That's the same kind of business development model that PureTech is
» pursuing for other therapeutic areas as well.
»
» Says Zohar: "We have four new companies we're working on right now."
»
» <<<<
They only have 4 full time employees, but when I look at the board and executive team, there are no less than 6 persons!! Is this normal? Looks pretty unbalanced to me... no?
http://www.follicabio.com/content/board-and-executive-team/
amnd 4 more people in the scientific advisory board:
http://www.follicabio.com/content/scientific-advisory-board/
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Spanish Dude
26.08.2008, 20:25
@ Spanish Dude
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Consumer Inquiries in follica website? WTF? |
They have absolutely nothing yet, and they are at least 4 years from having anything...
but in their website, there is a section for "Consumer Inquiries", where you can fill in a form... to ask things... that of course they are not going to answer.
WHAT KIND OF JOKE IS THIS???
http://www.follicabio.com/content/consumer-inquiries/
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fckhrls
26.08.2008, 21:49
@ baldlatino34
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Follica no in the market in the next 4/5 years |
» I WAIT TO SEE FOLLICA DIED IN 5 YEARS….COMPANY GARBAGE. THE TIMES I
» HAVE PERHAPS THAT TO ADMIT, NEVER WE WILL HAVE ONE CURE FOR OUR PROBLEM.
What the fu ck are you talking about? Seriously, take six months, work on your English, and then come back. AND TURN YOUR FU CKING CAPS OFF!
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fckhrls
26.08.2008, 21:52
@ haircoach
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Well, there's always Acell |
There isn't any proof of concept in humans yet and you guys are already crying about timelines? Get a grip.
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cal
27.08.2008, 12:09
@ fckhrls
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Well, there's always Acell |
I'd call the infamous Gentifib cancer patient a pretty decent "proof of concept in humans" for Folica.
Yeah, of course they don't know everything specifically yet. But the bottom line is that he regrew A TON of hair (on longtime balded skin) just from taking Folica's main active ingredient. And without any other hair efforts being made.
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superflyhairguy
03.09.2008, 13:39
@ Spanish Dude
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Consumer Inquiries in follica website? WTF? |
Your pessemism is depressing, albeit accurate sounding.
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