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sam

30.09.2008, 00:23

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Benji, I started using Peppermint Oil dissolved in water about 4 months ago to reduce facial hair. I did this because you stated you had some success with this. I unfortunately have had no success. You stated in another thread that using Lavender Oil might be benefical so I plan on starting this in the near future. However, I was thinking that since an EGF/EGFR antagonist helps to grow hair that an EGF/EGFR promoter will help inhibit hair growth. Is this correct? If it is, are there EGF/EGFR promoters available? Thanks for all your help.

sam is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

benji

30.09.2008, 01:21

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ť Benji, I started using Peppermint Oil dissolved in water about 4 months ago
ť to reduce facial hair. I did this because you stated you had some success
ť with this. I unfortunately have had no success. You stated in another
ť thread that using Lavender Oil might be benefical so I plan on starting
ť this in the near future. However, I was thinking that since an EGF/EGFR
ť antagonist helps to grow hair that an EGF/EGFR promoter will help inhibit
ť hair growth. Is this correct? If it is, are there EGF/EGFR promoters
ť available? Thanks for all your help.

Im wondering if peppermint (like licorice) might do something "bad" for hair to be honest with you. It would seem like a great anti-androgen, but so many products with peppermint seem to dissapoint (that shampoo that spectral DNC made a while back and revivogen with its menthol come to mind).

The egf-inhibitor grew hair in response to a wound----I really really doubt it would be helpful in baldness other than that. They are in the follica patent to be used on certain days after dermabrasion in hopes of creating a new hair follicle out of epidermal stem cells in the dermis. As a daily treatment for hair it would probably do nothing.

Lavender has been found in experiments to block the androgen receptor and to stimulate the estrogen receptor. This should be good for hair. Lavender has been used for hair for a long long time. If you google "lavender and androgen receptor" you'll probably get to read the experiments that were performed in New England.

benji is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

sam

30.09.2008, 23:54

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ť ť Benji, I started using Peppermint Oil dissolved in water about 4 months
ť ago
ť ť to reduce facial hair. I did this because you stated you had some
ť success
ť ť with this. I unfortunately have had no success. You stated in another
ť ť thread that using Lavender Oil might be benefical so I plan on starting
ť ť this in the near future. However, I was thinking that since an
ť EGF/EGFR
ť ť antagonist helps to grow hair that an EGF/EGFR promoter will help
ť inhibit
ť ť hair growth. Is this correct? If it is, are there EGF/EGFR promoters
ť ť available? Thanks for all your help.
ť
ť
ť
ť
ť Im wondering if peppermint (like licorice) might do something "bad" for
ť hair to be honest with you. It would seem like a great anti-androgen, but
ť so many products with peppermint seem to dissapoint (that shampoo that
ť spectral DNC made a while back and revivogen with its menthol come to
ť mind).
ť
ť The egf-inhibitor grew hair in response to a wound----I really really
ť doubt it would be helpful in baldness other than that. They are in the
ť follica patent to be used on certain days after dermabrasion in hopes of
ť creating a new hair follicle out of epidermal stem cells in the dermis. As
ť a daily treatment for hair it would probably do nothing.
ť
ť
ť Lavender has been found in experiments to block the androgen receptor and
ť to stimulate the estrogen receptor. This should be good for hair. Lavender
ť has been used for hair for a long long time. If you google "lavender and
ť androgen receptor" you'll probably get to read the experiments that were
ť performed in New England.

I'm sorry for being slow but I just want to make sure I'm understanding you. You don't think that a EGF/EGFR promoter would be beneficial in reducing facial hair? I figured that that shaving could act as some sort of a wounding process and that the EGF/EGFR promoter could help reduce the hair growth. If this could help reduce facial hair, do you know of any EGF/EGFR promoters? Thanks for replying.

sam is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

benji

01.10.2008, 20:44

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ť ť ťť
ť I'm sorry for being slow but I just want to make sure I'm understanding
ť you. You don't think that a EGF/EGFR promoter would be beneficial in
ť reducing facial hair? I figured that that shaving could act as some sort
ť of a wounding process and that the EGF/EGFR promoter could help reduce the
ť hair growth. If this could help reduce facial hair, do you know of any
ť EGF/EGFR promoters? Thanks for replying.

If you want to REDUCE facial hair, peppermint oil dissolved in water would do it big time. It did on me----by three months it was a "wow" reduction in facial hair growth.

benji is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

sam

01.10.2008, 22:24

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ť ť ť ťť
ť ť I'm sorry for being slow but I just want to make sure I'm understanding
ť ť you. You don't think that a EGF/EGFR promoter would be beneficial in
ť ť reducing facial hair? I figured that that shaving could act as some
ť sort
ť ť of a wounding process and that the EGF/EGFR promoter could help reduce
ť the
ť ť hair growth. If this could help reduce facial hair, do you know of any
ť ť EGF/EGFR promoters? Thanks for replying.
ť
ť
ť If you want to REDUCE facial hair, peppermint oil dissolved in water
ť would do it big time. It did on me----by three months it was a "wow"
ť reduction in facial hair growth.

I've tried the peppermint oil dissolved in water (at 1 to 15 volume ratio) for 4 months and didn't really do anything for mean. I'm going to try liquorice or lavender next. Thanks for all your help.

sam is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

Jtelecom

02.10.2008, 00:29

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"Im wondering if peppermint (like licorice) might do something "bad" for hair to be honest with you."

It is getting harder and harder to find a "therapeutic" shampoo out there that does not contain some kind of "mint". I believe that it is added as purely a marketing tool because the consumer will notice a tingle when using the shampoos containing it and say "wow, it must be doing something good if my head tingles". I think that substances like mint added to shampoos have a NEGATIVE effect on hair growth, in my humble experience. I avoid shampoos containing them like the plague. You will see some kind of mint ingredient listed on a lot of the high-dollar shampoos and the mint ingredient is promoted as therapeutic. This is complete nonsense, IMHO.

Jtelecom is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
---
Jtelecom
5 Strip Surgeries (4 Bosley, 1 AlviArmani)
3 FUE Surgeries (2 Undisclosed, 1 AlviArmani)
(Latest FUE Surgery: June 6, 2008 - AlviArmani Los Angeles)

Pete2

02.10.2008, 12:56

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ť Benji, I started using Peppermint Oil dissolved in water about 4 months ago
ť to reduce facial hair. I did this because you stated you had some success
ť with this. I unfortunately have had no success. You stated in another
ť thread that using Lavender Oil might be benefical so I plan on starting
ť this in the near future. However, I was thinking that since an EGF/EGFR
ť antagonist helps to grow hair that an EGF/EGFR promoter will help inhibit
ť hair growth. Is this correct? If it is, are there EGF/EGFR promoters
ť available? Thanks for all your help.

Menthol in a shampoo should help to boost bloodflow.

Regards
Pete

Pete2 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
---
1)Shampoo/Topical for Inflammation: Piroctone olamine shampoo/ Calosol Spray
2)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium,Pantothenic acid, choline(to be added)
3)Lifestyle factors: STRESS levels,moderate exercise, insulin,cholesterol,hydration.

Jtelecom

02.10.2008, 14:02

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See my post above. Menthol is lumped in with "mint" in my opinion.

Jtelecom is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
---
Jtelecom
5 Strip Surgeries (4 Bosley, 1 AlviArmani)
3 FUE Surgeries (2 Undisclosed, 1 AlviArmani)
(Latest FUE Surgery: June 6, 2008 - AlviArmani Los Angeles)

cal

10.10.2008, 21:07

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I've just started monkeying with Lavender oil a week or two ago. Just from the feel of it on my scalp, I am 100% sold on continuing to use this stuff. It soothes the feeling of MPB inflammation in my scalp about as well as a serious soaking of 1% Nizoral shampoo can do.

(My scalp is very sensitive about MPB inflammation. If I miss my regular Fin dosage, I can usually literally feel the scalp inflammation increasing within a day or so to remind me of the missed dose.)

I've been mixing a few drops of Lavender oil into a blob of hand sanitizer/antibacterial stuff. (It's made of about 2/3rds propylene glycol according the label. It's clear colored and it cools/dries your hands with the heavy alcohol content.) Then I massage that goop into my hair and really let it sit a few minutes before showering.

cal is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

sam 30.09.2008, 00:23	? 4 benji (Topicals) Post reply
	Benji, I started using Peppermint Oil dissolved in water about 4 months ago to reduce facial hair. I did this because you stated you had some success with this. I unfortunately have had no success. You stated in another thread that using Lavender Oil might be benefical so I plan on starting this in the near future. However, I was thinking that since an EGF/EGFR antagonist helps to grow hair that an EGF/EGFR promoter will help inhibit hair growth. Is this correct? If it is, are there EGF/EGFR promoters available? Thanks for all your help. sam is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
benji 30.09.2008, 01:21 @ sam	? 4 benji Post reply
	ť Benji, I started using Peppermint Oil dissolved in water about 4 months ago ť to reduce facial hair. I did this because you stated you had some success ť with this. I unfortunately have had no success. You stated in another ť thread that using Lavender Oil might be benefical so I plan on starting ť this in the near future. However, I was thinking that since an EGF/EGFR ť antagonist helps to grow hair that an EGF/EGFR promoter will help inhibit ť hair growth. Is this correct? If it is, are there EGF/EGFR promoters ť available? Thanks for all your help. Im wondering if peppermint (like licorice) might do something "bad" for hair to be honest with you. It would seem like a great anti-androgen, but so many products with peppermint seem to dissapoint (that shampoo that spectral DNC made a while back and revivogen with its menthol come to mind). The egf-inhibitor grew hair in response to a wound----I really really doubt it would be helpful in baldness other than that. They are in the follica patent to be used on certain days after dermabrasion in hopes of creating a new hair follicle out of epidermal stem cells in the dermis. As a daily treatment for hair it would probably do nothing. Lavender has been found in experiments to block the androgen receptor and to stimulate the estrogen receptor. This should be good for hair. Lavender has been used for hair for a long long time. If you google "lavender and androgen receptor" you'll probably get to read the experiments that were performed in New England. benji is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
sam 30.09.2008, 23:54 @ benji	? 4 benji Post reply
	ť ť Benji, I started using Peppermint Oil dissolved in water about 4 months ť ago ť ť to reduce facial hair. I did this because you stated you had some ť success ť ť with this. I unfortunately have had no success. You stated in another ť ť thread that using Lavender Oil might be benefical so I plan on starting ť ť this in the near future. However, I was thinking that since an ť EGF/EGFR ť ť antagonist helps to grow hair that an EGF/EGFR promoter will help ť inhibit ť ť hair growth. Is this correct? If it is, are there EGF/EGFR promoters ť ť available? Thanks for all your help. ť ť ť ť ť Im wondering if peppermint (like licorice) might do something "bad" for ť hair to be honest with you. It would seem like a great anti-androgen, but ť so many products with peppermint seem to dissapoint (that shampoo that ť spectral DNC made a while back and revivogen with its menthol come to ť mind). ť ť The egf-inhibitor grew hair in response to a wound----I really really ť doubt it would be helpful in baldness other than that. They are in the ť follica patent to be used on certain days after dermabrasion in hopes of ť creating a new hair follicle out of epidermal stem cells in the dermis. As ť a daily treatment for hair it would probably do nothing. ť ť ť Lavender has been found in experiments to block the androgen receptor and ť to stimulate the estrogen receptor. This should be good for hair. Lavender ť has been used for hair for a long long time. If you google "lavender and ť androgen receptor" you'll probably get to read the experiments that were ť performed in New England. I'm sorry for being slow but I just want to make sure I'm understanding you. You don't think that a EGF/EGFR promoter would be beneficial in reducing facial hair? I figured that that shaving could act as some sort of a wounding process and that the EGF/EGFR promoter could help reduce the hair growth. If this could help reduce facial hair, do you know of any EGF/EGFR promoters? Thanks for replying. sam is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
benji 01.10.2008, 20:44 @ sam	? 4 benji Post reply
	ť ť ťť ť I'm sorry for being slow but I just want to make sure I'm understanding ť you. You don't think that a EGF/EGFR promoter would be beneficial in ť reducing facial hair? I figured that that shaving could act as some sort ť of a wounding process and that the EGF/EGFR promoter could help reduce the ť hair growth. If this could help reduce facial hair, do you know of any ť EGF/EGFR promoters? Thanks for replying. If you want to REDUCE facial hair, peppermint oil dissolved in water would do it big time. It did on me----by three months it was a "wow" reduction in facial hair growth. benji is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
sam 01.10.2008, 22:24 @ benji	? 4 benji Post reply
	ť ť ť ťť ť ť I'm sorry for being slow but I just want to make sure I'm understanding ť ť you. You don't think that a EGF/EGFR promoter would be beneficial in ť ť reducing facial hair? I figured that that shaving could act as some ť sort ť ť of a wounding process and that the EGF/EGFR promoter could help reduce ť the ť ť hair growth. If this could help reduce facial hair, do you know of any ť ť EGF/EGFR promoters? Thanks for replying. ť ť ť If you want to REDUCE facial hair, peppermint oil dissolved in water ť would do it big time. It did on me----by three months it was a "wow" ť reduction in facial hair growth. I've tried the peppermint oil dissolved in water (at 1 to 15 volume ratio) for 4 months and didn't really do anything for mean. I'm going to try liquorice or lavender next. Thanks for all your help. sam is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
Jtelecom 02.10.2008, 00:29 @ benji	? 4 benji Post reply
	"Im wondering if peppermint (like licorice) might do something "bad" for hair to be honest with you." It is getting harder and harder to find a "therapeutic" shampoo out there that does not contain some kind of "mint". I believe that it is added as purely a marketing tool because the consumer will notice a tingle when using the shampoos containing it and say "wow, it must be doing something good if my head tingles". I think that substances like mint added to shampoos have a NEGATIVE effect on hair growth, in my humble experience. I avoid shampoos containing them like the plague. You will see some kind of mint ingredient listed on a lot of the high-dollar shampoos and the mint ingredient is promoted as therapeutic. This is complete nonsense, IMHO. Jtelecom is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Jtelecom 5 Strip Surgeries (4 Bosley, 1 AlviArmani) 3 FUE Surgeries (2 Undisclosed, 1 AlviArmani) (Latest FUE Surgery: June 6, 2008 - AlviArmani Los Angeles)
Pete2 02.10.2008, 12:56 @ sam	? 4 benji Post reply
	ť Benji, I started using Peppermint Oil dissolved in water about 4 months ago ť to reduce facial hair. I did this because you stated you had some success ť with this. I unfortunately have had no success. You stated in another ť thread that using Lavender Oil might be benefical so I plan on starting ť this in the near future. However, I was thinking that since an EGF/EGFR ť antagonist helps to grow hair that an EGF/EGFR promoter will help inhibit ť hair growth. Is this correct? If it is, are there EGF/EGFR promoters ť available? Thanks for all your help. Menthol in a shampoo should help to boost bloodflow. Regards Pete Pete2 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- 1)Shampoo/Topical for Inflammation: Piroctone olamine shampoo/ Calosol Spray 2)DHT/ Estradiol: Epilobium,Pantothenic acid, choline(to be added) 3)Lifestyle factors: STRESS levels,moderate exercise, insulin,cholesterol,hydration.
Jtelecom 02.10.2008, 14:02 @ Pete2	? 4 benji Post reply
	See my post above. Menthol is lumped in with "mint" in my opinion. Jtelecom is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Jtelecom 5 Strip Surgeries (4 Bosley, 1 AlviArmani) 3 FUE Surgeries (2 Undisclosed, 1 AlviArmani) (Latest FUE Surgery: June 6, 2008 - AlviArmani Los Angeles)
cal 10.10.2008, 21:07 @ Jtelecom	? 4 benji Post reply
	I've just started monkeying with Lavender oil a week or two ago. Just from the feel of it on my scalp, I am 100% sold on continuing to use this stuff. It soothes the feeling of MPB inflammation in my scalp about as well as a serious soaking of 1% Nizoral shampoo can do. (My scalp is very sensitive about MPB inflammation. If I miss my regular Fin dosage, I can usually literally feel the scalp inflammation increasing within a day or so to remind me of the missed dose.) I've been mixing a few drops of Lavender oil into a blob of hand sanitizer/antibacterial stuff. (It's made of about 2/3rds propylene glycol according the label. It's clear colored and it cools/dries your hands with the heavy alcohol content.) Then I massage that goop into my hair and really let it sit a few minutes before showering. cal is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO