Duck
03.10.2008, 08:26 |
Beard and body hair transplant repair job (Hair Transplant) |
Very nice for only 3500 grafts. http://www.woodstechnique.com.au/videogallery/pagination.php?page=1&album=BEARD%20HAIR%20USED%20FOR%20REPAIR
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fordham
03.10.2008, 12:25
@ Duck
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
Big improvement.
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fastforward
03.10.2008, 13:05
@ fordham
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
It's hard to tell the difference, I feel sorry for him though, he has scars all over his head.
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Dr. Woods
Australia,
03.10.2008, 13:26
@ fordham
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
» Big improvement.
Thankyou DIAMOND
You had the courage and commitment to show your brothers your face
Thats not easy .
You never harmed anyone . You are an ordinary guy with hair loss.
But you were sucked into white coated CORPORATE MEDICINE,
whose greed and immorality comes close to WALL STREET
Again , thankyou Diamond, , you showed your face , you showed your humanity
You paid me to help you. But it is I who owe you for trusting me.
Be well my friend
Dr Ray Woods
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Dr. Woods
Australia,
03.10.2008, 13:41
@ fastforward
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
» It's hard to tell the difference, I feel sorry for him though, he has scars
» all over his head.
take a good hard look , you little shill.
who ever you are working for , tell your boss to call me ..collect...And i will tell that butchering manipulative jerk where to go
Dr Ray Woods
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fastforward
03.10.2008, 13:58
@ Dr. Woods
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
» » It's hard to tell the difference, I feel sorry for him though, he has
» scars
» » all over his head.
»
» take a good hard look , you little shill.
» who ever you are working for , tell your boss to call me ..collect...And i
» will tell that butchering manipulative jerk where to go
»
» Dr Ray Woods
I gave my opinion about the quality of the video, it was not offensive, just observations, are we at a stage whe we cannot ask or express an opinion without being jumped on?
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benji
03.10.2008, 15:06
@ fastforward
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
the body and beard hair did indeed grow for this man.........in scar tissue
those old flap and scalp reduction procedures were the absolute worst---its hard to believe that they were performed from the seventies even until the early nineties when several doctors must have been well aware of what the outcomes usually were
this guy got a good yield for the amount of hair moved----
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superflyhairguy
03.10.2008, 15:34
@ Dr. Woods
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
Dr. Woods:
Excellent. I look forward to meeting you. As for the detractor, the results are excellent FOR THE AMOUNT OF **FINITE** DONOR used. That's something most of the scamming mega-session docs don't want you to contemplate: success of transection. But it makes more fiscal sense--for the physician---to have you do a mega session versus multiple procedures.--Less risk you'll follow-up with a different doc if you're not satisfied--and even if you do, as you've already been through a mega session, the physician's already got a substantially larger portion of money from you than he ever would have in the first place---if you hadn't got a mega session and got bad results--why?--because you're more likely to follow-up with a different doctor.
Kind Regards,
S
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johnp
New Jersey,
03.10.2008, 15:39
@ fastforward
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
FF, you need to look at both videos, there are TWO.
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craig
03.10.2008, 17:03
@ superflyhairguy
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
» Dr. Woods:
»
»
» Excellent. I look forward to meeting you. As for the detractor, the
» results are excellent FOR THE AMOUNT OF **FINITE** DONOR used. That's
» something most of the scamming mega-session docs don't want you to
» contemplate: success of transection. But it makes more fiscal sense--for
» the physician---to have you do a mega session versus multiple
» procedures.--Less risk you'll follow-up with a different doc if you're not
» satisfied--and even if you do, as you've already been through a mega
» session, the physician's already got a substantially larger portion of
» money from you than he ever would have in the first place---if you hadn't
» got a mega session and got bad results--why?--because you're more likely to
» follow-up with a different doctor.
»
»
» Kind Regards,
»
» S
No kidding about mega session, it's a rip off, only hanging will tell you that the yield looks right for the tens of thousands of grafts that were used in the procedure.
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marco
U.K,
03.10.2008, 17:37
@ Dr. Woods
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
» » It's hard to tell the difference, I feel sorry for him though, he has
» scars
» » all over his head.
»
» take a good hard look , you little shill.
» who ever you are working for , tell your boss to call me ..collect...And i
» will tell that butchering manipulative jerk where to go
»
» Dr Ray Woods
Ray, that is an excellent result!!! Please don't engage with a comment that shows itself as silly without recourse. It will always happen and no one takes this sort of thing seriously so why bother.
Although the result and your surgery are first class and this guy has been helped enormously by you, there was a time not so long ago that you were really quite negative about the use of beard hair and you did actually criticise arvind for its over use. I think this kind of result shows that to be a little unfair.
A question. Why not use a great deal more beard hair in a single pass and get a bigger result in a single session?
Many Thanks
Marco.
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Franklin
03.10.2008, 18:01
@ marco
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
Marco. If you look back and read into what doctor Woods was saying. Is the over use of beard hair and in the hairline. I for one am glad he was able to help this guy out and using it in the back of the head it made sense to Diamond after his test patch grew out and he was able to see the results for himself . And now he is moving on to using it in the crown and some other areas. I think maybe he feels doing it in stages on a tough repair job helps keep track of the total numbers that really end up growing than doing a megasession.
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diamond6
03.10.2008, 18:09
@ craig
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
I want to thank Dr Woods for all of the corrective work performed on me. I now can face the world without a wig or a hat. I thought that when I initially saw Dr Woods he would not be able to help me. I think it is rather miraculous to have done such a fine repair with so little donor to work with. Thank you Dr. Woods for everything again. I only wish there was some way to correct this corrupt industry. You are World class to me Ray. Don't pay attention to these evil and unethical posters. You are in a class that they will never be able to attain. Thanks again. Best wishes to all.
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Franklin
03.10.2008, 18:12
@ Franklin
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
Just found this on his new website his position on beard hair from this link . http://www.woodstechnique.com.au/photogallery/pagination.php?album=daniel
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Wylie
03.10.2008, 20:14
@ Duck
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
Very nice results. Only 3500 grafts resulted in that transformation? Thats truly incredible.
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marco
U.K,
03.10.2008, 21:10
@ Franklin
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
» Just found this on his new website his position on beard hair from this
» link .
» http://www.woodstechnique.com.au/photogallery/pagination.php?album=daniel
Thanks Franklin.
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Dr. Woods
Australia,
04.10.2008, 01:57
@ marco
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
I have removed beard hair many years ago but the bulb size and coarseness stopped me from placing it into the hairline.
In 2002, the patient "programmer" who had posted here at the time , had beard hair via strip, from under the chin.
And that was a disaster. MY sister and I spent countless hours removing it and repairing his head.
They were follicular units, not plugs or mini grafts, but it was clear that beard hair had to be treated with extreme caution.
IF, it is placed in the frontal hairline, it may look very weird, especially if the hair is coarse.
IF the surrounding hair falls out, then it may be even worse.
Facial scarring is a risk. We cannot replace one problem with another.
First and foremost, we must "DO NO HARM".
Beard hair is great , but it can go either way if it is not removed or placed correctly.
I remove 500 perfectly intact follicular units per session, with less than 5% transection, and the videos prove it.
I then place those grafts one by one under microscopic control to ensure they are not damaged and that there is no scalp shock.
That is a big day...and night.
And since the early 1990s I gave better results with only a fraction of the grafts other doctors were qouting.
When you see some results on the web , and the ridiculous number of quoted grafts, EVEN TO REPAIR SMALL AREAS, you soon realise that it is a PR stunt, and a NUMBERS RACKET.
I look at some of these results in total disbelief, and wonder why there is so much butt kissing and no one dares to challenge.
Otherwise DIAMOND will again dramatically improve in the next few months
Dr Ray Woods
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marco
U.K,
04.10.2008, 05:23
@ Dr. Woods
|
Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
>> And since the early 1990s I gave better results with only a fraction of the grafts other doctors were quoting.
Now that is something to consider.
I have been wondering for a while why there is such a discrepancy in outcome between the better docs even when using scalp hair using the same numbers. H&W get wow results but that can't be due to some kind of magic. Maybe the percentage growth is not nearly as close to 100% as is advertised by many surgeons. When it comes to FUE maybe this is even more pronounced.
You take a lot longer than many fue surgeons to implant 500 hairs but if the outcome is a better percentage growth then of cause it is worth it. The truth relating to the real percentage growth and consistent percentage growth is hard to come by. It seems likely that the meticulous procedure that you use and your experience as founder of this area can be trusted but does that mean that all other FUE surgeons are no good. I can't believe that.
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coolguy
04.10.2008, 09:08
@ Duck
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
Nice result. You really made a big difference with a small amount of grafts concidering the way he looked...
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stitchmeup
04.10.2008, 11:55
@ Duck
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
» Very nice for only 3500 grafts.
» http://www.woodstechnique.com.au/videogallery/pagination.php?page=1&album=BEARD%20HAIR%20USED%20FOR%20REPAIR
Excellent result, thanks for posting that, it has been proven over and over again, beard hair holds the greatest promise for scar repair, this has to be the best I have seen using only 3500 grafts.
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Dr. Woods
Australia,
04.10.2008, 13:58
@ marco
|
Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
» >> And since the early 1990s I gave better results with only a fraction of
» the grafts other doctors were quoting.
»
» Now that is something to consider.
»
» I have been wondering for a while why there is such a discrepancy in
» outcome between the better docs even when using scalp hair using the same
» numbers. H&W get wow results but that can't be due to some kind of magic.
» Maybe the percentage growth is not nearly as close to 100% as is advertised
» by many surgeons. When it comes to FUE maybe this is even more pronounced.
»
» You take a lot longer than many fue surgeons to implant 500 hairs but if
» the outcome is a better percentage growth then of cause it is worth it. The
» truth relating to the real percentage growth and consistent percentage
» growth is hard to come by. It seems likely that the meticulous procedure
» that you use and your experience as founder of this area can be trusted but
» does that mean that all other FUE surgeons are no good. I can't believe that.
Believe what ever suits you.
Look around. there will be doctors all over the world wanting you as their poster boy. And you will pay peanuts to fix your head...maybe.
A LITTLE LESS CONVERSATION ...A LITTLE MORE ACTION...so get on with it and be a "been there .. done that " expert.
good luck
Dr Woods
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hairwhereiwantit
05.10.2008, 11:05
@ Duck
|
Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
» Very nice for only 3500 grafts.
» http://www.woodstechnique.com.au/videogallery/pagination.php?page=1&album=BEARD%20HAIR%20USED%20FOR%20REPAIR
Considering how disfigured his hair was with scars tattoos and many bare regions, I think its coming along marvelously. BHT seems to be a blessing to those without enough donor hair on scalp.
Keep up the good workd doc.
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hair101
Miami,
05.10.2008, 14:50
@ Duck
|
Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
» Very nice for only 3500 grafts.
» http://www.woodstechnique.com.au/videogallery/pagination.php?page=1&album=BEARD%20HAIR%20USED%20FOR%20REPAIR
2 questions, 1) does anyonne know if the facial hair will continue to grow or will they be gone forever once used for donor? 2) do I need to grow my beard long before surgery, and if so how long?
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Propecia for 9 months
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fordham
06.10.2008, 10:15
@ hair101
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Beard and body hair transplant repair job |
Dr. Woods,
Are you going to open an office in Memphis?
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Dr. Woods
Australia,
07.10.2008, 20:20
@ fordham
|
beard donor healing |
» Dr. Woods,
»
» Are you going to open an office in Memphis?
Good idea. I will call Pricilla and try and get rooms at Gracelands.
Please observe diamonds healed beard donor area on this link
http://www.woodstechnique.com.au/videogallery/pagination.php?page=3&album=BEARD%20HAIR%20USED%20FOR%20REPAIR
Regards,
Dr Ray Woods
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Dr. Woods
Australia,
07.10.2008, 20:34
@ Duck
|
Beard and body hair transplant repair job by Dr Ray WOODS |
» Very nice for only 3500 grafts.
» http://www.woodstechnique.com.au/videogallery/pagination.php?page=1&album=BEARD%20HAIR%20USED%20FOR%20REPAIR
Thankyou for that link Duck.
We just posted another link to Diamonds beard post op
http://www.woodstechnique.com.au/videogallery/pagination.php?page=3&album=BEARD%20HAIR%20USED%20FOR%20REPAIR
Dr Ray Woods
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stitchmeup
07.10.2008, 22:42
@ Dr. Woods
|
Beard and body hair transplant repair job by Dr Ray WOODS |
» » Very nice for only 3500 grafts.
» »
» http://www.woodstechnique.com.au/videogallery/pagination.php?page=1&album=BEARD%20HAIR%20USED%20FOR%20REPAIR
»
» Thankyou for that link Duck.
»
» We just posted another link to Diamonds beard post op
»
» http://www.woodstechnique.com.au/videogallery/pagination.php?page=3&album=BEARD%20HAIR%20USED%20FOR%20REPAIR
»
» Dr Ray Woods
Dr Woods how many grafts do you think you can get from a person with average beard density, assuming that I don't mind wiping out my beard entirely?
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craig
08.10.2008, 12:23
@ stitchmeup
|
Beard and body hair transplant repair job by Dr Ray WOODS |
» » » Very nice for only 3500 grafts.
» » »
» »
» http://www.woodstechnique.com.au/videogallery/pagination.php?page=1&album=BEARD%20HAIR%20USED%20FOR%20REPAIR
» »
» » Thankyou for that link Duck.
» »
» » We just posted another link to Diamonds beard post op
» »
» »
» http://www.woodstechnique.com.au/videogallery/pagination.php?page=3&album=BEARD%20HAIR%20USED%20FOR%20REPAIR
» »
» » Dr Ray Woods
»
» Dr Woods how many grafts do you think you can get from a person with
» average beard density, assuming that I don't mind wiping out my beard
» entirely?
I second that, there are some crazy numbers being thrown around by Arvind and Umar, the surface area for beard is much smaller than scalp donor, there is no way they can get more beard hair than they could from the scalp. Arvind posted a 6800 grafts beard transplant, if you think about it, most scalp fue can't even get up to 5000, how on earth did he get 6800 grafts from facial hair!
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Dr. Woods
Australia,
08.10.2008, 20:30
@ craig
|
the NUMBERS BUBBLE |
» I second that, there are some crazy numbers being thrown around by Arvind
» and Umar, the surface area for beard is much smaller than scalp donor,
» there is no way they can get more beard hair than they could from the
» scalp. Arvind posted a 6800 grafts beard transplant, if you think about it,
» most scalp fue can't even get up to 5000, how on earth did he get 6800
» grafts from facial hair!
like trusting Wall Street "numbers"....they are used to leap frog competitors and suck in "business", by appearing to be more efficient and offering better value for money.
They say "Doctors bury their mistakes"
But in the hair transplant industry, patients hide themselves out of shame and regret.
And those who become vocal are buried by Lawyers, Legal Disclaimers, or certain Sponsor friendly websites who make sure problems and complaints "go away".
So yes, I third that, the quoted numbers are often absolutely ridiculous.
Dr Ray Woods
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ipod
08.10.2008, 21:03
@ Dr. Woods
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the NUMBERS BUBBLE |
Dr. Woods, excellent work as always, I have a question about Propecia and BHT. I am sure you know that Propecia has the exact opposite effect on body hair as it does for scalp hair, so do you think that people who had BHT should be asked not use Propecia? Maybe people are not seeing good BHT growth partially because they are using Propecia which tends to decrease body hair growth? Your thoughts ?
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Dr. Woods
Australia,
09.10.2008, 01:11
@ ipod
|
the NUMBERS BUBBLE |
» Dr. Woods, excellent work as always, I have a question about Propecia and
» BHT. I am sure you know that Propecia has the exact opposite effect on body
» hair as it does for scalp hair, so do you think that people who had BHT
» should be asked not use Propecia? Maybe people are not seeing good BHT
» growth partially because they are using Propecia which tends to decrease
» body hair growth? Your thoughts ?
I am not 100% certain and don't have all the facts, so I can only offer an opinion . I think what you said is correct.
Another reason is that damaged and transected grafts are placed to artificially inflate the "numbers"
Or, the grafts were promised, but only a fraction of that number actually implanted. Doctors know that patients wont go home and count the "thousands" of scabs. And 12 months later, the poor growth is old news easily deflected and ignored by an ongoing PR blitz
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abcxyz
09.10.2008, 10:47
@ Dr. Woods
|
the NUMBERS BUBBLE |
» » Dr. Woods, excellent work as always, I have a question about Propecia
» and
» » BHT. I am sure you know that Propecia has the exact opposite effect on
» body
» » hair as it does for scalp hair, so do you think that people who had BHT
» » should be asked not use Propecia? Maybe people are not seeing good BHT
» » growth partially because they are using Propecia which tends to
» decrease
» » body hair growth? Your thoughts ?
»
» I am not 100% certain and don't have all the facts, so I can only offer an
» opinion . I think what you said is correct.
»
» Another reason is that damaged and transected grafts are placed to
» artificially inflate the "numbers"
» Or, the grafts were promised, but only a fraction of that number actually
» implanted. Doctors know that patients wont go home and count the
» "thousands" of scabs. And 12 months later, the poor growth is old news
» easily deflected and ignored by an ongoing PR blitz
»
» Dr Ray Woods
I hope that is not true about Propecia+BHT, that's insane, if we can't use Propecia after BHT then sure enough our own hair will fall out and all we have left is body hair on top, talk about looking like a freak!
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therapy
09.10.2008, 13:20
@ Dr. Woods
|
the NUMBERS BUBBLE |
All this had been debated before, I think it was Dr Umar who said that the reason he can get more from the face is because we don't have to worry about leaving gaps in the donor, doctors can extract virtually every single follicle from the chin,face and neck, however the same does not apply to scalp donor or you will risk having white dots and gaps all over the back of your head.
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stitchmeup
09.10.2008, 19:57
@ Dr. Woods
|
the NUMBERS BUBBLE |
Dr. Woods don't forget about my question  roughly how many grafts can you get from a person with average beard density?
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Dr. Woods
Australia,
10.10.2008, 02:19
@ stitchmeup
|
the NUMBERS BUBBLE |
» Dr. Woods don't forget about my question roughly how many grafts can
» you get from a person with average beard density?
The hard thing here is deciding what is "average" . It stretches from people who have hardly any facial hair, to the Taliban
Density must be considered, and the physical size of the beard area plus other subtle variants which will impact the numbers available etc.
I'll take a punt and say a couple of thousand, give or take 500 to 1000.
But don't hold me to it. Each area must be assessed idividually.
Dr Ray Woods
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craig
11.10.2008, 11:58
@ Dr. Woods
|
the NUMBERS BUBBLE |
» » Dr. Woods don't forget about my question roughly how many grafts can
» » you get from a person with average beard density?
»
» The hard thing here is deciding what is "average" . It stretches from
» people who have hardly any facial hair, to the Taliban
»
» Density must be considered, and the physical size of the beard area plus
» other subtle variants which will impact the numbers available etc.
»
» I'll take a punt and say a couple of thousand, give or take 500 to 1000.
» But don't hold me to it. Each area must be assessed idividually.
»
» Dr Ray Woods
what about diamond? you took out 2000 already, how many more do you think he can spare from his beard?
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ruffin
11.10.2008, 13:44
@ Dr. Woods
|
the NUMBERS BUBBLE |
Dr Woods, is it possible to use beard hair for the crown or vertex as I think you call it.
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ipod
11.10.2008, 17:35
@ Dr. Woods
|
the NUMBERS BUBBLE |
» » Dr. Woods, excellent work as always, I have a question about Propecia
» and
» » BHT. I am sure you know that Propecia has the exact opposite effect on
» body
» » hair as it does for scalp hair, so do you think that people who had BHT
» » should be asked not use Propecia? Maybe people are not seeing good BHT
» » growth partially because they are using Propecia which tends to
» decrease
» » body hair growth? Your thoughts ?
»
» I am not 100% certain and don't have all the facts, so I can only offer an
» opinion . I think what you said is correct.
If you think I am right about BHT and Propecia, do you ask your bht patients to stop using Propecia after the surgery? It would be counter productive if you give us body hair and at the same time we continue to use Propecia which decreases body hair growth, dont you think?
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» » » Dr. Woods, excellent work as always, I have a question about Propecia
» » and
» » » BHT. I am sure you know that Propecia has the exact opposite effect
» on
» » body
» » » hair as it does for scalp hair, so do you think that people who had
» BHT
» » » should be asked not use Propecia? Maybe people are not seeing good
» BHT
» » » growth partially because they are using Propecia which tends to
» » decrease
» » » body hair growth? Your thoughts ?
» »
» » I am not 100% certain and don't have all the facts, so I can only offer
» an
» » opinion . I think what you said is correct.
»
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» If you think I am right about BHT and Propecia, do you ask your bht
» patients to stop using Propecia after the surgery? It would be counter
» productive if you give us body hair and at the same time we continue to use
» Propecia which decreases body hair growth, dont you think?
Dr. Umar posted this before,
Medicine is hardly a field of absolutes. To most rules, there are bound to be exceptions.
The pathway that leads to the production of the 3 androgens (DHT, testosterone and Androstenedione, also has a route that leads to the production of Estrogen). When you block DHT production by 5AR inhibition, the path to testosterone and/or estrogen production tends to be upregulated. The degree to which either of these two hormones (testosterone and Estrogen) are affected by 5AR inhibition should depend on several factors including the patient's idiosyncratic predispositions, drug dosage, drug type and actions (eg Dutasteride blocks both 5AR-1 and 5AR-2 hence leaves less room for DHT production via the 5AR1 pathway -the case with finateride)etc.
In healthy individuals, most body hair (relevant to BHT) responds especially to testosterone positively. Hence if DHT blockage results in more testosterone production than estrogen, you may actually end up with a positive effect on body hair than in premedication periods. If however, more estrogen is produced than is testosterone, you may well have a slowing of body hair growth and/or breast enlargement and/or loss of libido etc. If these hormones (Testosterone and and Estrogen) are raised to the same degree activity-wise, then you may have no change in body hair status as the effects of the 2 will balance out (most patients on alopecia reduction doses). This is the basis for my previous statement "Some activities of 5AR inhibitors (dutasteride and finasteride) are not a direct result of DHT or lack of it" found in the post you pasted above. As you can judge from the aforementioned, some activities of 5AR inhibitors is as a direct result of Testosterone and/or estrogen upregulation, rather than |
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