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All Over,
01.11.2008, 19:35 |
Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product (Hair Loss Research & Clinical Trials) |
This is a follow up of the Dr. Jones-ACELL announcement previously posted on HairSite.
As of October 30th, 2008, Dr. Jones had officially tested the ACELL wound regeneration product on one of his patients. The patient had multiple hair transplant procedures before.
This is the first ever documentation of ACELL product being used on hair transplant patients for scar repair. We do not know how well this product will work in regenerating the donor site at this point. Please do not overreact, be realistic with your expectations.
Dr. Jones will provide more update and details of the experiment shortly.
There might be more open slots for the ACELL trial at Dr. Jones clinic in the coming weeks or months. Email hairsite@aol.com if you wish to be considered for the experiment.
Dr. Jones' website: www.drrobertjones.com
====================================================
Copy of the Dr. Jones ACELL announcement that was previously posted on HairSite.com
Official announcement for Dr. Robert Jones
Dr. Robert Jones now has access to Acell's Extracellular Matrix (ECM) products for wound healing. Anyone interested in signing up as a test patient, please email hairsite@aol.com immediately for details.
There is no fee and no cost involved except for traveling expenses that you might have to incur to get to his clinic in Toronto, Canada. Toronto is about 1 hour away by air from major airports in the New York, New Jersey area.
At this point, it will be tested on patients with existing strip scars. Only a very SMALL and localized area will be treated using Acell's ECM product. Follow-up visits are required probably on a weekly or monthly basis. Priority will be given to Canadian residents.
Readers are advised that this is an experiment for hair transplant wound repair. There are risks involved and is no guarantee for success. You are strongly advised to speak to representatives at Acell as well as Dr. Jones to fully understand the potentials and possible side effects associated with the treatment before signing up as a test patient.
This announcement is posted on behalf of Dr. Robert Jones' clinic. HairSite is NOT involved in this experiment in any way whatsoever.
If you are interested in signing up as a test patient, please email HairSite@aol.com. Dr. Jones can start the treatment now.
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goata007
01.11.2008, 21:14
@ HairSite
|
Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
» Dr. Jones will provide more update and details of the experiment shortly.
Good luck Dr. Jones...btw was kind of transplant was it that the patient had? FUE, Strip..??
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HairSite
All Over,
01.11.2008, 21:29
@ goata007
|
Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
» » Dr. Jones will provide more update and details of the experiment
» shortly.
»
» Good luck Dr. Jones...btw was kind of transplant was it that the patient
» had? FUE, Strip..??
It was strip.
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biston
01.11.2008, 21:44
@ HairSite
|
Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
I'm just curious, I hope the best for results. But can you tell me why he is not trying acell for follicular regeneration? acell will be tested only to solve scar?
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Dogstar
02.11.2008, 01:11
@ Willy
|
Pictures from Dr. Jones Website |
» What do you guys think about these pics? I'm not sure what to think about
» them.
»
» http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.html
Would hair be growing in the scar area usually or not, I've never had any contact with these treatments so i don't know what you would expect if they hadn't used Acell.
I don't know why my post is above yours by the way.
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barnie
02.11.2008, 01:27
@ Willy
|
Pictures from Dr. Jones Website |
For me it seems as if there is at least no scar to see which would normally be the case by strip surgery. Acell really works!!! Now lets wait and see if there will grow hair in that area.
» What do you guys think about these pics? I'm not sure what to think about
» them.
»
» http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.html
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Willy
02.11.2008, 01:28
@ HairSite
|
Pictures from Dr. Jones Website |
What do you guys think about these pics? I'm not sure what to think about them.
http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.html
Scar treatment with Acell
Scar treatment with Acell
Before and immediately after...
41 year old male with numerous previous surgeries and scarring as a result.
Scar was excised, wound was rinsed with saline, acell powder was generously applied to the exposed tissue. Two layers of Acell Wound Sheets were applied over the powder and the sheets were held in place with 5-0 gut. The patient will give me updates daily and take pictures as it heals.
We will be providing regular updates to the blog,
Dr. Robert Jones
![[image]](img/uploaded/1_image493.jpg)
![[image]](img/uploaded/1_image494.jpg)
![[image]](img/uploaded/1_image495.jpg)
![[image]](img/uploaded/1_image496.jpg)
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barnie
02.11.2008, 01:32
@ HairSite
|
Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
David, could you please ask Dr. Jones for before-pictures?
» This is a follow up of the Dr. Jones-ACELL announcement previously posted
» on HairSite.
»
» As of October 30th, 2008, Dr. Jones had officially tested the ACELL wound
» regeneration product on one of his patients. The patient had multiple hair
» transplant procedures before.
»
» This is the first ever documentation of ACELL product being used on hair
» transplant patients for scar repair. We do not know how well this product
» will work in regenerating the donor site at this point. Please do not
» overreact, be realistic with your expectations.
»
» Dr. Jones will provide more update and details of the experiment shortly.
»
» There might be more open slots for the ACELL trial at Dr. Jones clinic in
» the coming weeks or months. Email hairsite@aol.com if you wish to be
» considered for the experiment.
»
» Dr. Jones' website: www.drrobertjones.com
»
» ====================================================
»
» Copy of the Dr. Jones ACELL announcement that was previously
» posted on HairSite.com
» Official announcement for Dr. Robert Jones
»
» Dr. Robert Jones now has access to Acell's Extracellular Matrix (ECM)
» products for wound healing. Anyone interested in signing up as a test
» patient, please email hairsite@aol.com immediately for details.
»
» There is no fee and no cost involved except for traveling expenses that
» you might have to incur to get to his clinic in Toronto, Canada. Toronto
» is about 1 hour away by air from major airports in the New York, New Jersey
» area.
»
» At this point, it will be tested on patients with existing strip scars.
» Only a very SMALL and localized area will be treated using Acell's ECM
» product. Follow-up visits are required probably on a weekly or monthly
» basis. Priority will be given to Canadian residents.
»
» Readers are advised that this is an experiment for hair transplant wound
» repair. There are risks involved and is no guarantee for success. You are
» strongly advised to speak to representatives at Acell as well as Dr. Jones
» to fully understand the potentials and possible side effects associated
» with the treatment before signing up as a test patient.
»
» This announcement is posted on behalf of Dr. Robert Jones' clinic.
» HairSite is NOT involved in this experiment in any way whatsoever.
»
» If you are interested in signing up as a test patient, please email
» HairSite@aol.com. Dr. Jones can start the treatment now.
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superfred
02.11.2008, 03:42
@ Willy
|
Great he has before pictures and a blog for ACELL ! |
» What do you guys think about these pics? I'm not sure what to think about
» them.
»
» http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.html
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SPQR
02.11.2008, 04:53
@ barnie
|
Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
» David, could you please ask Dr. Jones for before-pictures?
»
»
» » This is a follow up of the Dr. Jones-ACELL announcement previously
» posted
» » on HairSite.
» »
» » As of October 30th, 2008, Dr. Jones had officially tested the ACELL
» wound
» » regeneration product on one of his patients. The patient had multiple
» hair
» » transplant procedures before.
» »
» » This is the first ever documentation of ACELL product being used on
» hair
» » transplant patients for scar repair. We do not know how well this
» product
» » will work in regenerating the donor site at this point. Please do not
» » overreact, be realistic with your expectations.
» »
» » Dr. Jones will provide more update and details of the experiment
» shortly.
» »
» » There might be more open slots for the ACELL trial at Dr. Jones clinic
» in
» » the coming weeks or months. Email hairsite@aol.com if you wish to be
» » considered for the experiment.
» »
» » Dr. Jones' website: www.drrobertjones.com
» »
» » ====================================================
» »
» » Copy of the Dr. Jones ACELL announcement that was previously
» » posted on HairSite.com
» » Official announcement for Dr. Robert Jones
» »
» » Dr. Robert Jones now has access to Acell's Extracellular Matrix (ECM)
» » products for wound healing. Anyone interested in signing up as a test
» » patient, please email hairsite@aol.com immediately for details.
» »
» » There is no fee and no cost involved except for traveling expenses that
» » you might have to incur to get to his clinic in Toronto, Canada.
» Toronto
» » is about 1 hour away by air from major airports in the New York, New
» Jersey
» » area.
» »
» » At this point, it will be tested on patients with existing strip scars.
» » Only a very SMALL and localized area will be treated using Acell's ECM
» » product. Follow-up visits are required probably on a weekly or monthly
» » basis. Priority will be given to Canadian residents.
» »
» » Readers are advised that this is an experiment for hair transplant
» wound
» » repair. There are risks involved and is no guarantee for success. You
» are
» » strongly advised to speak to representatives at Acell as well as Dr.
» Jones
» » to fully understand the potentials and possible side effects associated
» » with the treatment before signing up as a test patient.
» »
» » This announcement is posted on behalf of Dr. Robert Jones' clinic.
» » HairSite is NOT involved in this experiment in any way whatsoever.
» »
» » If you are interested in signing up as a test patient, please email
» » HairSite@aol.com. Dr. Jones can start the treatment now.
I think is too early to say woow, it works. At the moment we can only appreciate the seriousness of this doctor, is a pioneer. We have to wait again a little time...
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Max
02.11.2008, 06:52
@ SPQR
|
Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
Look at the last picture!
If think there is hair in the old scar!
Do you see it too?
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benji
02.11.2008, 09:04
@ Max
|
Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
It will really be exciting to see if ACELL can lessen the strip scars a great deal.
If it can grow some hair in them, it would be a tremendous advance.
But it IS BEING TESTED by doctors like Jones with solid reputations in the business, and that in itself is promising. Robert Jones wouldn't fool with ACELL if he thought there wasn't some chance of success.
It will be "better" when a patient is "tried" that doesn't have such profound scarring back there has a strip surgery with the stuff. The man in the photo has a head that has really been worked over hard in several surgeries dating back to the old drill-bit plugs era. I really hope this fella gets some improvement.
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Amilcar
02.11.2008, 11:33
@ HairSite
|
I want all the Scarred guys to WAKE UP |
Scarred, Scarred5, and all the others (who had to get through HT surgeries and scars)...Please See the pictures and give us your feedbacks , you have surely the eye to judge the results...Do it with no delay please !!
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Z79
02.11.2008, 12:28
@ Amilcar
|
it is not after pictures |
» Scarred, Scarred5, and all the others (who had to get through HT surgeries
» and scars)...Please See the pictures and give us your feedbacks , you have
» surely the eye to judge the results...Do it with no delay please !!
What results? The test has just been done. It is not after pictures we are looking at, it is before pictures (bottom picture) showing how the scare looked like before he cut out that nasty wound (top picture). Wait a month.
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Amilcar
02.11.2008, 12:33
@ Z79
|
it is not after pictures |
» » Scarred, Scarred5, and all the others (who had to get through HT
» surgeries
» » and scars)...Please See the pictures and give us your feedbacks , you
» have
» » surely the eye to judge the results...Do it with no delay please !!
»
»
» What results? The test has just been done. It is not after pictures we are
» looking at, it is before pictures (bottom picture) showing how the scare
» looked like before he cut out that nasty wound (top picture). Wait a month.
huhh sorry ! Let's wait a month then, I think they got me wrong the guys asking for before pictures and telling the results are good...So Basically those are the before pictures. Let's wait for the results, Fingers crossed.
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ipod
02.11.2008, 13:08
@ HairSite
|
Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
People on this board want to believe so badly that they won't even bother to read, this was done only a few days ago and some are screaming for results already.
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goata007
02.11.2008, 13:23
@ HairSite
|
Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
» » » Dr. Jones will provide more update and details of the experiment
» » shortly.
» »
» » Good luck Dr. Jones...btw was kind of transplant was it that the
» patient
» » had? FUE, Strip..??
»
» It was strip.
It would have been better it he tried it on FUE, so we could see if it creates any new hair.
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Amilcar
02.11.2008, 14:43
@ ipod
|
Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
» People on this board want to believe so badly that they won't even bother
» to read, this was done only a few days ago and some are screaming for
» results already.
Ipod,
So then what do you want me killed ?
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Sceptic
02.11.2008, 15:47
@ Amilcar
|
Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
» » People on this board want to believe so badly that they won't even
» bother
» » to read, this was done only a few days ago and some are screaming for
» » results already.
»
» Ipod,
»
» So then what do you want me killed ?
No more blood, please, we have enough with that acell pic.
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debris
02.11.2008, 16:49
@ Max
|
Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
» Look at the last picture!
» If think there is hair in the old scar!
» Do you see it too?
No there is no hair in the scar area. The page says it is this the before pic and then the image above it is after excision? I guess so.
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debris
02.11.2008, 16:54
@ goata007
|
Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
» » » » Dr. Jones will provide more update and details of the experiment
» » » shortly.
» » »
» » » Good luck Dr. Jones...btw was kind of transplant was it that the
» » patient
» » » had? FUE, Strip..??
» »
» » It was strip.
»
» It would have been better it he tried it on FUE, so we could see if it
» creates any new hair.
I dont know why you think that in the small tiny little hole the acell should decide to grow hair. I seriously doubt it would. If Acell growed hair, then the hair will be at random distribution, and probability that it will coincide with the hole after the FUE extraction is imho small.
All in all I do not expect it to grow hair even in larger wounds.
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goata007
02.11.2008, 18:12
@ debris
|
Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
» I dont know why you think that in the small tiny little hole the acell
» should decide to grow hair. I seriously doubt it would. If Acell growed
» hair, then the hair will be at random distribution, and probability that it
» will coincide with the hole after the FUE extraction is imho small.
Smaller wounds always heal better. Also, FUE holes are NOT stitched up, so if they are replaced with a hair, then it mean that ACELL creates hair, otherwise it won't. IMO, ACELL on a strip procedure has much less chance of showing any hair regrowth because the wound is stitched up. The only thing ACELL might do in that case is reduce scarring.
What makes you think ACELL will regrow hair at random distribution? you're probably thinking they sprinkle ACELL on the wound? In that case, your basic understanding of ACELL is wrong. I'm not gonna go into the details about how ACELL works, but it has been talked a lot about on this board.
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hairoine
03.11.2008, 01:21
@ Sceptic
|
Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
» » » People on this board want to believe so badly that they won't even
» » bother
» » » to read, this was done only a few days ago and some are screaming for
» » » results already.
» »
» » Ipod,
» »
» » So then what do you want me killed ?
»
» No more blood, please, we have enough with that acell pic.
Wait and see guys. Remember ancell was designed for wound healing, not hair growth! It would be amazing if it did happen but dont pin your hopes on it! Either way it is a step in the right direction!
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HanginInThere
Hair loss University,
03.11.2008, 12:57
@ hairoine
|
is there nothing you guys wont latch onto as a cure |
its almost daily now you come up with something that has not been tested, not been intended for even hair. yet it is latched onto as the next possible cure
i smell desperation
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TheGayme
the twilight zone,
03.11.2008, 13:14
@ HanginInThere
|
is there nothing you guys wont latch onto as a cure |
» its almost daily now you come up with something that has not been tested,
» not been intended for even hair. yet it is latched onto as the next
» possible cure
»
» i smell desperation
i smell vaseline...oh, sorry...hangin farted
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biston
03.11.2008, 17:48
@ TheGayme
|
is there nothing you guys wont latch onto as a cure |
Guys, but he is trying to regrow new hair or just to remove the scar tissue? I think the hole isn't enough deep to allow hair regrow
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Iwonder
03.11.2008, 18:03
@ biston
|
is there nothing you guys wont latch onto as a cure |
mannnnnn i just hope that Acell will so wonders on scars
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rev
your nightmares,
03.11.2008, 18:12
@ HanginInThere
|
Seriously? Are we going down this road again? |
» its almost daily now you come up with something that has not been tested,
» not been intended for even hair. yet it is latched onto as the next
» possible cure
One could say the same about your regime.
» i smell desperation
This comment sounds like it's coming from a broken record player... stuck in a never-ending loop.
.
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scarred5
03.11.2008, 18:18
@ rev
|
Seriously? Are we going down this road again? |
»i did not realize till i saw a closeup picture it looks like he has sutured the open wound, obviously to see if new tissue/hair is regenerated, wow the doc and patient are pioneers and must be commended for their courage, i thought he would just sprinkle the powder and stitch the wound closed, i just have to say thank-you for being the first to try acell in this manner, this could be big
»
»
»
» .
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european
03.11.2008, 18:32
@ HanginInThere
|
is there nothing you guys wont latch onto as a cure |
» its almost daily now you come up with something that has not been tested,
» not been intended for even hair. yet it is latched onto as the next
» possible cure
»
» i smell desperation
I may remind you that both finasteride and minox were not INTENDED for hair. Sill they remain to be one of the best weapons again hairloss than most things today.
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Amilcar
03.11.2008, 18:35
@ scarred5
|
Thanks Scarred5, what about the others, WAKE UP. |
» »i did not realize till i saw a closeup picture it looks like he has
» sutured the open wound, obviously to see if new tissue/hair is regenerated,
» wow the doc and patient are pioneers and must be commended for their
» courage, i thought he would just sprinkle the powder and stitch the wound
» closed, i just have to say thank-you for being the first to try acell in
» this manner, this could be big
» »
» »
» »
» » .
Thanks scarred5, those were the insights I was looking for from knowledgable eyes like yours.
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HanginInThere
Hair loss University,
03.11.2008, 18:44
@ european
|
good point |
» » its almost daily now you come up with something that has not been
» tested,
» » not been intended for even hair. yet it is latched onto as the next
» » possible cure
» »
» » i smell desperation
»
» I may remind you that both finasteride and minox were not INTENDED for
» hair. Sill they remain to be one of the best weapons again hairloss than
» most things today.
excellent point NOW THATS the kind of logical response guys should come up with , when someone challenges HM on the board, like i often do
how can anyone argue with a response like that, good job
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TruthHurts
03.11.2008, 18:52
@ HanginInThere
|
good point |
» i smell desperation
Desperation is avoiding salt, eating various seeds, etc. Completely useless measures for treating hair loss. I guess some guys will start eating dog poop next...
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scarred1
04.11.2008, 02:07
@ Amilcar
|
Thanks Scarred5, what about the others, WAKE UP. |
Don't expect too much fan fare from me. Believing all the hype is what got me where I am today. I'll believe it when I see it...and not before.
I really didn't expect the wound/excision to be left wide open either. Common sense, if there is such a thing, would suggest to me that the wound will not heal invisably.
Let's give it some time and see what happens. It really is too soon to get excited about this. I find it laughable that some posters can't follow along close enough to recognise the difference between a before pic, and an after one. seems a little dillusional to me.
Let's just wait and see for a change.
,
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Max
04.11.2008, 02:30
@ TruthHurts
|
good point |
If Acell not works!
What do you think!
When the doc give DP cells or wnt protiens in the injury and then Acell
We all know,DP cells and wnt protiens are very important for hair!
2 companys researched at a cure with one of them!
Acell regenerate the skin!O.K,we have new skin of our heat.
When we give in the regenerate Time DP cells in the injury..............,---
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HMorHT
04.11.2008, 12:39
@ scarred1
|
Thanks Scarred5, what about the others, WAKE UP. |
» Don't expect too much fan fare from me. Believing all the hype is what got
» me where I am today. I'll believe it when I see it...and not before.
» I really didn't expect the wound/excision to be left wide open either.
» Common sense, if there is such a thing, would suggest to me that the wound
» will not heal invisably.
» Let's give it some time and see what happens. It really is too soon to
» get excited about this. I find it laughable that some posters can't follow
» along close enough to recognise the difference between a before pic, and an
» after one. seems a little dillusional to me.
» Let's just wait and see for a change.
» ,
The good news is that at least some doctor is actually doing something and giving us updates rather than us begging for information all the time.
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HanginInThere
Hair loss University,
04.11.2008, 13:26
@ rev
|
Seriously? Are we going down this road again? |
» » its almost daily now you come up with something that has not been
» tested,
» » not been intended for even hair. yet it is latched onto as the next
» » possible cure
» One could say the same about your regime.
»
»
» » i smell desperation
» This comment sounds like it's coming from a broken record player... stuck
» in a never-ending loop.
»
»
»
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plenty of board members have tested my regimen and reported back good results, what is more relevant than that? guess you can join the long line of HM board members who have not yet found a regimen that works well enough to even save what little hair you have left.........much less regrow any.........that sucks. i dont blame you for being bitter
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DHT blockers (daily intake)
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Pygeum 500mg
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TheGayme
the twilight zone,
04.11.2008, 13:51
@ HanginInThere
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Seriously? Are we going down this road again? |
» plenty of board members have tested my regimen and reported back good
» results, what is more relevant than that? guess you can join the long line
» of HM board members who have not yet found a regimen that works well enough
» to even save what little hair you have left.........much less regrow
» any.........that sucks. i dont blame you for being bitter
Can you provide a list of these members?
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debris
04.11.2008, 14:49
@ goata007
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Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
» » I dont know why you think that in the small tiny little hole the acell
» » should decide to grow hair. I seriously doubt it would. If Acell growed
» » hair, then the hair will be at random distribution, and probability that
» it
» » will coincide with the hole after the FUE extraction is imho small.
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» Smaller wounds always heal better. Also, FUE holes are NOT stitched up, so
» if they are replaced with a hair, then it mean that ACELL creates hair,
» otherwise it won't. IMO, ACELL on a strip procedure has much less chance of
» showing any hair regrowth because the wound is stitched up. The only thing
» ACELL might do in that case is reduce scarring.
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» What makes you think ACELL will regrow hair at random distribution? you're
» probably thinking they sprinkle ACELL on the wound? In that case, your
» basic understanding of ACELL is wrong. I'm not gonna go into the details
» about how ACELL works, but it has been talked a lot about on this board.
1) fue hole is so small that just the surrounding tissue around it virtually stiches it up on its own
2) natural hair grows in a randomish pattern
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cal
04.11.2008, 22:43
@ debris
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Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
Dr. Jones and this patient might be the first ones to try to regrow scalp hair with Acell, but they're a long way from being the first ones to use it for simple wound closure. I assume they've got reason to believe it's safe based on other doctors' previous track records with Acell.
The hair might work or it might not. But even simple wound closure improvements would be a massive improvement for strip HTs.
And this still isn't really even testing the ideal situation for Acell to erase a strip wound, either. I'd like to see what Acell does with a wound that would have already been clean and pencil-thin just with traditional closure methods.
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goata007
05.11.2008, 03:50
@ debris
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Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
» 1) fue hole is so small that just the surrounding tissue around it
» virtually stiches it up on its own
FUE hole size was the reason, I prefer trying ACELL on it. Small wounds biologically heal better. To test ACELL's regenerative capability, it would be best to try it on a small wound that is already bound to heal well. I doubt ACELL will regrow any hair on that large gapping hole on that man's head.
» 2) natural hair grows in a randomish pattern
I was referring to hair in the FUE holes, if they just add ACELL powder to the FUE hole, I'd definitely like to see what happens there. If ACELL has decent regenerative properties - the hole should grow a new hair.
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Sceptic
05.11.2008, 07:08
@ HairSite
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Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
I found it in another forum
http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00352729
Evaluation of ACell Hydrated Wound Dressing for Autogenous Skin Donor Sites
Sponsored by: United States Army Institute of Surgical Research
This study has been terminated.
( PI decided to use another product )
I don't know how to interpret it, maybe it doesn't sound too good ?
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cal
05.11.2008, 22:22
@ Sceptic
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Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
» I found it in another forum
» If ACELL has decent regenerative properties - the hole should grow a new
» hair.
Not necessarily.
The hair is a separate organ/tissue from the skin itself. If you yank the follicle during a FUE procedure, then depending on the situation the only tissue available to the Acell powder may be the surrounding skin itself. And I don't think that's as likely to regrow hair. (If regenerating/multiplying scalp skin alone recreated new follicles, then I would think we'd be getting new follicles forming on a conventional skin graft from the scalp that we were multiplying in a petri dish.)
Acell regrows stuff great, but only if it's starting out with some amount of the damaged tissue. If Acell has no specific tissue (read: instructions) from a scalp follicle in front of it, then I don't think it's as likely to regrow a follicle.
The bottom line is that this is all still just speculation. Nobody really knows. I guess we'll see eventually.
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scarred5
06.11.2008, 01:57
@ cal
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Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
i dont know but this guy may be screwed, if that wound only grows skin, hes going to have a big patch of bald skin there, how is that better than the scarring he had there prior, i think the first test should have been on a regular revision, cause at the very least the guy would still have a smaller area even if it only regrew skin, rev posted about greico and prp, i wonder how this would enhance wound healing, from say a strip transplant if applied directly to say a tricho, typically there are hairs all through the scar, maybe with the advent of prp those hairs would not shed/die
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maneless
06.11.2008, 09:50
@ scarred5
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Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
that was an area that had no hair before the acell was administered. in order to see if it works to regrow hair the cut has to be made wider i think. i think the area that is removed has to go out beyond the area that has no hair. it has to be cut so that the borders of the cut go into the area that has hair. this stuff heals from the outside in and if you want a chance to regrow hair then the outside borders of the treated area have to reach into hair-growing skin tissue.
» i dont know but this guy may be screwed, if that wound only grows skin, hes
» going to have a big patch of bald skin there, how is that better than the
» scarring he had there prior, i think the first test should have been on a
» regular revision, cause at the very least the guy would still have a
» smaller area even if it only regrew skin, rev posted about greico and prp,
» i wonder how this would enhance wound healing, from say a strip transplant
» if applied directly to say a tricho, typically there are hairs all through
» the scar, maybe with the advent of prp those hairs would not shed/die
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costanza
07.11.2008, 17:37
@ HairSite
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Dr. Jones has officially treated patient with ACELL product |
I wonder how often Acell is being applied to the wound. When I talked to Manning he mentioned that Acell should be applied EOD and covered with a scaffold and bandage.
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Spanish Dude
07.11.2008, 18:36
@ HairSite
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Suggestion for Dr. Jones |
Thanks to Dr. Jones and the brave trialist.
The experiment makes sense, and will certainly give us a first hand account about how well Acell works on scalp wounds.
The questions are:
1. will Acell grow brand new skin from the "base wound" (not "streched skin" -or contracted skin, if you prefer- from the periphery of the wound).
2. if it grows new skin, will it bear new hair follicles?
Please, try to take photos as frequently as possible to ascertain that NEW skin is being created from the base wound, and it isn't just contracted skin coming in from the edges of the wound.
It would be useful to TATOO the edges of the wound, to keep track of the contraction process.
thanks and best regards.
SD
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RickH
09.11.2008, 17:06
@ HairSite
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Hairsite Admin, question |
Why not also post this in the Hair Transplant forum? I understand the idea that there is a possible hair multiplication element to Acell, but it seems much more likely to revolutionize hair transplants and help already-scarred patients.
Just a thought.
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HairSite
All Over,
09.11.2008, 21:38
@ RickH
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Hairsite Admin, question |
» Why not also post this in the Hair Transplant forum? I understand the idea
» that there is a possible hair multiplication element to Acell, but it seems
» much more likely to revolutionize hair transplants and help already-scarred
» patients.
»
» Just a thought.
It is still experimental at this point. I don't think people should get too excited until we know what kind of results we can expect from the product.
That being said, I think I did briefly mentioned this in the HT forum at the same time this was posted here.
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