Z79
18.11.2008, 11:50 |
Dr Jones Acell update today (Hair Multiplication & Research) |
He will post an update today so keep an eye on the webpage if you are interested.
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rev
your nightmares,
18.11.2008, 12:08
@ Z79
|
Dr Jones Acell update today |
» He will post an update today so keep an eye on the webpage if you are
» interested.
Just thinking out loud here, but I have an odd feeling there won't be any new hair in the wound area. If I recall correctly, Acell was consistently applied to (or left on) the wound in the veterinary models. I don't think this patient was given any Acell after the initial treatment. Moreso, I didn't see any scabbing in the veterinary models.
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Amilcar
18.11.2008, 12:30
@ rev
|
Dr Jones Acell update today |
» » He will post an update today so keep an eye on the webpage if you are
» » interested.
»
» Just thinking out loud here, but I have an odd feeling there won't be any
» new hair in the wound area. If I recall correctly, Acell was consistently
» applied to (or left on) the wound in the veterinary models. I don't think
» this patient was given any Acell after the initial treatment. Moreso, I
» didn't see any scabbing in the veterinary models.
What ??? are you telling me he is not getting the Acell every week ! if that's the case then for sure it wont work, this stuff works and worked only through sustained treatment of the wounded area with it until the best possible regeneration is achieved.
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Z79
18.11.2008, 12:37
@ Amilcar
|
Dr Jones Acell update today |
» » » He will post an update today so keep an eye on the webpage if you are
» » » interested.
» »
» » Just thinking out loud here, but I have an odd feeling there won't be
» any
» » new hair in the wound area. If I recall correctly, Acell was
» consistently
» » applied to (or left on) the wound in the veterinary models. I don't
» think
» » this patient was given any Acell after the initial treatment. Moreso, I
» » didn't see any scabbing in the veterinary models.
»
» What ??? are you telling me he is not getting the Acell every week ! if
» that's the case then for sure it wont work, this stuff works and worked
» only through sustained treatment of the wounded area with it until the best
» possible regeneration is achieved.
And how is the powder suppose to get in the wound when there is scab covering the wound after two days?
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Willy
18.11.2008, 12:47
@ rev
|
Dr Jones Acell update today |
» » He will post an update today so keep an eye on the webpage if you are
» » interested.
»
» Just thinking out loud here, but I have an odd feeling there won't be any
» new hair in the wound area. If I recall correctly, Acell was consistently
» applied to (or left on) the wound in the veterinary models. I don't think
» this patient was given any Acell after the initial treatment. Moreso, I
» didn't see any scabbing in the veterinary models.
Obviously, I hope you're wrong about this (and I'm sure you do too), but that is why I wanted to contact as many doctors as possible about this. Hopefully, if it works at all, one of them will nail it.
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fckhrls
18.11.2008, 12:48
@ Amilcar
|
Dr Jones Acell update today |
this stuff works and worked
» only through sustained treatment of the wounded area with it until the best
» possible regeneration is achieved.
Proof?
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fckhrls
18.11.2008, 12:50
@ rev
|
Let the Excuses Begin! |
» Just thinking out loud here, but I have an odd feeling there won't be any
» new hair in the wound area. If I recall correctly, Acell was consistently
» applied to (or left on) the wound in the veterinary models. I don't think
» this patient was given any Acell after the initial treatment. Moreso, I
» didn't see any scabbing in the veterinary models.
Its not because Acell doesn't grow hair, its because they didn't follow a "veterinary model" that never suggested it would work on humans to begin with! Lets see what other excuses we can come up with. How about something with aliens? Or maybe an evil hair-transplant cartel conspiracy?
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rev
your nightmares,
18.11.2008, 13:10
@ Willy
|
Dr Jones Acell update today |
» Obviously, I hope you're wrong about this (and I'm sure you do too), but
» that is why I wanted to contact as many doctors as possible about this.
» Hopefully, if it works at all, one of them will nail it.
For sure man. I hope I'm wrong too; I'm just trying to look at this from all perspectives.
As it stands right now, I'm confident Acell will help a great deal of people who were butchered via strip surgerory (in a cost effective manor).
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Ahab
18.11.2008, 13:59
@ Z79
|
Dr Jones Acell update today |
» He will post an update today so keep an eye on the webpage if you are
» interested.
Remember, if dr Jones' trial patient were to grow hair, it won't be evident for some time yet--possibly not for 3 or 4 months, and likely longer than that.
Think! If you pulled out one of your hairs, it would take your existing follicle 3 - 4 months to start growing a replacement hair.
And that from a follicle that already exists.
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Ahab
18.11.2008, 14:06
@ Z79
|
Dr Jones Acell update today |
» He will post an update today so keep an eye on the webpage if you are
» interested.
For Acell to grow even good, serviceable skin, then it would also need to regrow things like sweat glands.
And if--IF--Acell regrows skin complete with new sweat glands, then why not with hair follicles, too?
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fckhrls
18.11.2008, 14:07
@ Ahab
|
Dr Jones Acell update today |
»
» For Acell to grow even good, serviceable skin, then it would also need to
» regrow things like sweat glands.
»
» And if--IF--Acell regrows skin complete with new sweat glands, then why
» not with hair follicles, too?
Makes perfect sense.
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FightingFalcon
18.11.2008, 14:46
@ rev
|
Dr Jones Acell update today |
» Just thinking out loud here, but I have an odd feeling there won't be any
» new hair in the wound area. If I recall correctly, Acell was consistently
» applied to (or left on) the wound in the veterinary models. I don't think
» this patient was given any Acell after the initial treatment. Moreso, I
» didn't see any scabbing in the veterinary models.
Dr. Jones explicitly wrote that he's following Acell instructions. Why bother doing this experiment otherwise? He doesn't seem to be an idiot.
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rev
your nightmares,
18.11.2008, 14:52
@ fckhrls
|
Let the Excuses Begin! |
» » Just thinking out loud here, but I have an odd feeling there won't be
» any
» » new hair in the wound area. If I recall correctly, Acell was
» consistently
» » applied to (or left on) the wound in the veterinary models. I don't
» think
» » this patient was given any Acell after the initial treatment. Moreso, I
» » didn't see any scabbing in the veterinary models.
»
» Its not because Acell doesn't grow hair, its because they didn't follow a
» "veterinary model" that never suggested it would work on humans to begin
» with! Lets see what other excuses we can come up with. How about
» something with aliens? Or maybe an evil hair-transplant cartel conspiracy?
So what's your excuse?
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debris
18.11.2008, 16:00
@ fckhrls
|
Stop moaning guys, the photo is there |
» » Just thinking out loud here, but I have an odd feeling there won't be
» any
» » new hair in the wound area. If I recall correctly, Acell was
» consistently
» » applied to (or left on) the wound in the veterinary models. I don't
» think
» » this patient was given any Acell after the initial treatment. Moreso, I
» » didn't see any scabbing in the veterinary models.
»
» Its not because Acell doesn't grow hair, its because they didn't follow a
» "veterinary model" that never suggested it would work on humans to begin
» with! Lets see what other excuses we can come up with. How about
» something with aliens? Or maybe an evil hair-transplant cartel conspiracy?
Stop moaning guys, the photo is there and its healing really really nicely. Les see 3 monts from now on if new hair sprouts out.
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Z79
18.11.2008, 16:07
@ debris
|
no new follicles expected... |
»
» Stop moaning guys, the photo is there and its healing really really
» nicely. Les see 3 monts from now on if new hair sprouts out.
"The Acell product hopefully will allow normal hair bearing tissue on either side of the wound to grow across the wound". No need to say anything more than that.
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Willy
18.11.2008, 16:57
@ Z79
|
no new follicles expected... |
I agree with your statement.....that statement is pretty disheartining. But, he goes on and says more.
The Acell product hopefully will allow normal hair bearing tissue on either side of the wound to grow across the wound. When this heals completely, we hope to have normal hair bearing tissue where there use to be scar. It will take a few more months to see the complete results of the experiment. If this is not successful, I plan to try another strategy along with the Acell company to try to make this work. I would ask that everyone be patient, since this is the first patient where Acell has been used in this application.
I'm a little confused by what he means by these statements. I would assume that when he says that they hope to have normal hair bearing tissue where there used to be scar that he means that he hopes that the tissue and donor hair will be regenerated. Are you guys seeing this the same way? This to me means that he at least has hope that it will regenerate hair.....unless I'm misunderstanding him.
Also, when he says that he will try another strategy to make it work....I'm not sure what he means. Do you guys think that he means scarless healing or donor hair regeneration?
Take Care,
Bill
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SPQR
18.11.2008, 17:38
@ Willy
|
no new follicles expected... |
"normal hair bearing tissue on either side of the wound to grow across the wound"
This means hair inside the wound... "either side to across...", means hairs on the scar.
If he don't expect new hair, he say hair grow "around" the wound... around means no new hair, but follicle that is not damaged by the scar.
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cal
18.11.2008, 18:45
@ SPQR
|
no new follicles expected... |
Its not because Acell doesn't grow hair, its because they didn't follow a "veterinary model" that never suggested it would work on humans to begin with! Lets see what other excuses we can come up with. How about something with aliens? Or maybe an evil hair-transplant cartel conspiracy?
fckhrls, grow up.
You started the mudslinging on this thread. YOU.
There was nothing like that going on in this thread until YOU popped up and ridiculed someone's thought 100% unnecessarily.
It was not a stupidly-optimistic idea that you originally attacked. It was a reasonable offhand statement that was a decent contribution to the thread's conversation, and you tore into the person out of the blue for it because it wasn't sufficiently negative for you.
Grow up, man.
I know we're not always entirely nice & polite on here in general, but COME ON.
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benji
18.11.2008, 21:16
@ Willy
|
For Willy about Dr. Jones |
Willy,
The man in question who had ACELL applied to the back of his head is a very bad case scenario to test this stuff with my friend. He simply has scar tissue all over that area. IF the extracellular tissue matrix got his tissue to regenerate..............might it not just generate more scar tissue? After all, scar tissue is pretty much what was all around it. Im not trying to be negative, however A MAN WITH A GOOD HEALTHY DONOR AREA WOULD BE A MUCH MUCH BETTER TEST CASE TO RUN THIS ON.
A guy going in for a regular strip transplant, could have Jones intentionally leave the wound a fifth of an inch or so open to see if new skin and hair would form between. If it didn't, then several months later when he is healed up enough, Dr. Jones could perform a triphocytic closure on him so he has a normal donor scar. The guy in question had a ton of scar tissue all around the cut out back there....................and if ACELL just generates more of the same kind of tissue that its "replacing", you'll get more scar tissue in someone like this. Lets hope not, but I wondered that as soon as I saw this fellows photograph.
Im hoping for the best for this guy though...........I can look and tell he has been through a lot in terms of hair surgeries.
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Willy
18.11.2008, 21:31
@ benji
|
For Willy about Dr. Jones |
I don't know what to think. At this point, you guys probably have more knowledge about this stuff than I. I also hope it works for this guy...he deserves it. I'm going to call Acell this week to see if there is anything new to report. I will post what they tell me.
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Spanish Dude
19.11.2008, 14:15
@ fckhrls
|
Dr Jones Acell update today |
» »
» » For Acell to grow even good, serviceable skin, then it would also need
» to
» » regrow things like sweat glands.
» »
» » And if--IF--Acell regrows skin complete with new sweat glands, then why
» » not with hair follicles, too?
»
» Makes perfect sense.
yes, sounds good to me too.
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Spanish Dude
19.11.2008, 15:05
(edited by Spanish Dude, 19.11.2008, 15:14)
@ rev
|
the scab is gone! |
» » He will post an update today so keep an eye on the webpage if you are
» » interested.
»
» Just thinking out loud here, but I have an odd feeling there won't be any
» new hair in the wound area. If I recall correctly, Acell was consistently
» applied to (or left on) the wound in the veterinary models. I don't think
» this patient was given any Acell after the initial treatment. Moreso, I
» didn't see any scabbing in the veterinary models.
Yep, something is wrong here...?? That thick scab prevents from applying any more powder as it is required.
edit:
ok, the new picture is up, and the scab is gone (¿removed?).
http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.html
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maneless
19.11.2008, 15:30
@ Spanish Dude
|
the scab is gone! |
» » » He will post an update today so keep an eye on the webpage if you are
» » » interested.
» »
» » Just thinking out loud here, but I have an odd feeling there won't be
» any
» » new hair in the wound area. If I recall correctly, Acell was
» consistently
» » applied to (or left on) the wound in the veterinary models. I don't
» think
» » this patient was given any Acell after the initial treatment. Moreso, I
» » didn't see any scabbing in the veterinary models.
»
»
» Yep, something is wrong here...?? That thick scab prevents from applying
» any more powder as it is required.
»
» edit:
» ok, the new picture is up, and the scab is gone (¿removed?).
» http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.html
i could be wrong but i think he only applied it once. he should have been applying it more than once and while it does matter that the scab is gone he should still be appying it now because it can still get inside the skin. he has not been appying it enough.
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maneless
19.11.2008, 15:31
@ Ahab
|
Dr Jones Acell update today |
» » He will post an update today so keep an eye on the webpage if you are
» » interested.
»
» For Acell to grow even good, serviceable skin, then it would also need to
» regrow things like sweat glands.
»
» And if--IF--Acell regrows skin complete with new sweat glands, then why
» not with hair follicles, too?
ahab, i think you are asking a good question, but from what i've been reading the doctor is not appying this stuff often enough. it is supposed to be supplied more than once and he is only applying it once.
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Spanish Dude
19.11.2008, 15:34
(edited by Spanish Dude, 19.11.2008, 15:43)
@ Spanish Dude
|
And the wound is shrinking (contracting) |
It looks like the wound is contracting, most of all on the left side of the wound.
Initial:
http://www.drrobertjones.com/uploaded_images/acell3-797315.jpg
Current:
http://www.drrobertjones.com/uploaded_images/Daves-054-640-701996.jpg
![[image]](img/uploaded/159_image1.jpg)
![[image]](img/uploaded/159_image2.jpg)
If it keeps closing at this pace, the "regenerated tissue" will be very small. 
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Spanish Dude
19.11.2008, 15:45
@ maneless
|
the scab is gone! |
» i could be wrong but i think he only applied it once. he should have been
» applying it more than once and while it does matter that the scab is gone
» he should still be appying it now because it can still get inside the skin.
» he has not been appying it enough.
well, I dunno, he says he is in close contact with Acell, so for now, lets trust that he is doing it correctly.
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sphlanx2006
19.11.2008, 21:11
@ Spanish Dude
|
the scab is gone! |
If someone could please explain:
In case the Acell treatment doesnt work AT ALL, this patient is going to be left with a huge scar on his head?
I really hope that something good comes out of this but what is the worst case scenario?
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Spanish Dude
20.11.2008, 05:26
@ sphlanx2006
|
the scab is gone! |
» If someone could please explain:
»
» In case the Acell treatment doesnt work AT ALL, this patient is going to
» be left with a huge scar on his head?
»
» I really hope that something good comes out of this but what is the worst
» case scenario?
I think so. A huge scar. But no big deal, as it can be removed.
Okay, if you want to go extreme, the worst case scenario would be death, but this is also the case with Finasteride and Minoxidil.
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biston
20.11.2008, 11:39
@ Spanish Dude
|
the scab is gone! |
A huge scar? it looks like is going to be regenerated, the last picture shows us a smaller wound, obviously seems we have to wait some weeks before the total regeneration
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TheGayme
the twilight zone,
20.11.2008, 13:33
@ maneless
|
Dr Jones Acell update today |
» ahab, i think you are asking a good question, but from what i've been
» reading the doctor is not appying this stuff often enough. it is supposed
» to be supplied more than once and he is only applying it once.
Maybe you should send him an email and tell him how it is done since you are an ACELL, uh, I mean "ACEL" expert.
It's never been used this way so nobody knows how "it is supposed to be supplied". He is following ACELL's instructions. Just shut up and stay tuned.
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FatalEvolution
URANUS,
20.11.2008, 16:26
@ Spanish Dude
|
And the wound is shrinking (contracting) |
» It looks like the wound is contracting, most of all on the left side of the
» wound.
»
» Initial:
» http://www.drrobertjones.com/uploaded_images/acell3-797315.jpg
»
» Current:
» http://www.drrobertjones.com/uploaded_images/Daves-054-640-701996.jpg
»
»
»
» If it keeps closing at this pace, the "regenerated tissue" will be very
» small.
hey, isn't it a guy smiling with lipsticks and a beard ? ...oops, oh ok, his head was upside down! sorry guys!
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TheGayme
the twilight zone,
20.11.2008, 17:58
@ Spanish Dude
|
NOT A SCAB |
» Yep, something is wrong here...?? That thick scab prevents from applying
» any more powder as it is required.
»
» edit:
» ok, the new picture is up, and the scab is gone (¿removed?).
» http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.html
That was not a scab. That was an acell patch sutured in to stay against the wound.
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rev
your nightmares,
20.11.2008, 18:26
@ TheGayme
|
NOT A SCAB |
» » Yep, something is wrong here...?? That thick scab prevents from applying
» » any more powder as it is required.
» »
» » edit:
» » ok, the new picture is up, and the scab is gone (¿removed?).
» » http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.html
»
» That was not a scab. That was an acell patch sutured in to stay against
» the wound.
Well heck, I'm glad to be wrong.
I really did think that was a scab.
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TheGayme
the twilight zone,
20.11.2008, 22:06
@ rev
|
NOT A SCAB |
» Well heck, I'm glad to be wrong.
» I really did think that was a scab.
"Two layers of Acell Wound Sheets were applied over the powder and the sheets were held in place with 5-0 gut"
It appears the sheets were removed in the latest photos. We don't know if more ACELL was applied. I would assume more would get applied until the wound was completely closed, but I, NOR ANYONE ELSE besides ACELL knows how to use this stuff. So we should all just WAIT AND SEE.
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Spanish Dude
21.11.2008, 09:42
@ FatalEvolution
|
And the wound is shrinking (contracting) |
» » It looks like the wound is contracting, most of all on the left side of
» the
» » wound.
» »
» » Initial:
» » http://www.drrobertjones.com/uploaded_images/acell3-797315.jpg
» »
» » Current:
» » http://www.drrobertjones.com/uploaded_images/Daves-054-640-701996.jpg
» »
» »
» »
» » If it keeps closing at this pace, the "regenerated tissue" will be very
» » small.
»
» hey, isn't it a guy smiling with lipsticks and a beard ? ...oops, oh ok,
» his head was upside down! sorry guys!
hello Fatal, how are you doing?
yah, maybe that is a good solution for "scar repair", to turn the scar into a Rolling Stones mouth. I am sure girls will find it very hot. LOL.
![[image]](http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/151/3095~Rolling-Stones-Tongue-Posters.jpg)
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Spanish Dude
21.11.2008, 09:47
@ biston
|
the scab is gone! |
» A huge scar? it looks like is going to be regenerated, the last picture
» shows us a smaller wound, obviously seems we have to wait some weeks before
» the total regeneration
I was considering a worst case scenario. In case ACELL doesn't work at all, there would be a huge scar.
But you are right, fortunately, this doesn't seem to be the case, as the most recent pic indicates that the wound is shrinking, so at worst, the scar won't be that huge.
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Spanish Dude
21.11.2008, 09:50
@ TheGayme
|
AAHHHH, Thanks! |
» » Yep, something is wrong here...?? That thick scab prevents from applying
» » any more powder as it is required.
» »
» » edit:
» » ok, the new picture is up, and the scab is gone (¿removed?).
» » http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.html
»
» That was not a scab. That was an acell patch sutured in to stay against
» the wound.
Good to know that it isn't a scab.
TheGayme, do you agree with me that the wound seems to be shrinking in?
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TheGayme
the twilight zone,
21.11.2008, 12:41
@ Spanish Dude
|
AAHHHH, Thanks! |
» Good to know that it isn't a scab.
» TheGayme, do you agree with me that the wound seems to be shrinking in?
No. The wound has been covered the entire time by the Acell Wound Sheets. We don't know what the wound looked like to begin with.
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Spanish Dude
21.11.2008, 15:21
@ TheGayme
|
AAHHHH, Thanks! |
» » Good to know that it isn't a scab.
» » TheGayme, do you agree with me that the wound seems to be shrinking in?
»
» No. The wound has been covered the entire time by the Acell Wound Sheets.
» We don't know what the wound looked like to begin with.
oh, but isn't this the initial state of the wound, without patch?
Ot is it already patched? It looks like there is no patch yet...
![[image]](http://www.drrobertjones.com/uploaded_images/acell4-717062.jpg)
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TheGayme
the twilight zone,
21.11.2008, 15:49
@ Spanish Dude
|
AAHHHH, Thanks! |
Have you ever seen an open wound? That ain't what it looks like.
That red stuff is the ACELL sheet (or a Chinese Chile Pepper  ). It was probably moistened initially then dried out turning darker. The ACELL sheet is basically pig bladder so it will appear and behave somewhat like tissue.
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FatalEvolution
URANUS,
21.11.2008, 16:30
@ Spanish Dude
|
And the wound is shrinking (contracting) |
» hello Fatal, how are you doing?
» yah, maybe that is a good solution for "scar repair", to turn the scar
» into a Rolling Stones mouth. I am sure girls will find it very hot. LOL.
hi, i mean heil, nazi boy
well i'm rather bald now, but i've gotten older too. Life goes on, so does hairloss. What about you ? Still wearing a Stahlhelm to hide your bald spots ? mmm...not the best tactic to find hotties imo 
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marco
U.K,
21.11.2008, 17:18
@ Z79
|
Dr Jones Acell update today |
» He will post an update today so keep an eye on the webpage if you are
» interested.
Well, the results clearly show contraction of the wound and that is not a good thing. If the closure is by contraction (evident from the length of hair on the edge of the wound) and not by tissue generation then nothing is really gained. The surrounding tissue closes the wound and there is no new hair. The most that can be gained is a better scar.
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Spanish Dude
21.11.2008, 17:23
@ FatalEvolution
|
And the wound is shrinking (contracting) |
» » hello Fatal, how are you doing?
» » yah, maybe that is a good solution for "scar repair", to turn the scar
» » into a Rolling Stones mouth. I am sure girls will find it very hot.
» LOL.
»
» hi, i mean heil, nazi boy
» well i'm rather bald now, but i've gotten older too. Life goes on, so does
» hairloss. What about you ? Still wearing a Stahlhelm to hide your bald
» spots ? mmm...not the best tactic to find hotties imo
Hahaha, I have a nice bald spot now. It looks horrific, but somehow, my brain gets used to it. Unfortunately, girls' brains don't get used to it.
I am really tired of this. I didn't expect that all this HM-research was such a pile of shït. My hopes now are below zero. Even if Dr. Jones is successful with Acell, it will be a cumbersome procedure, expensive, and with results largely depending on the skills of the surgeon who does the implantation of the multiplied hair into the recipient site. This is looking very very grim.
ok, as you brought up the subject, I am going to ask you:
do you still defend the biggest lie of all times, i.e. the Holocaust?
You have had plenty of time to reflect, to google about it, etc... Have you finally interviewed your family member (female) who was inmate (spared) in Birkenau while +1 million jews were suppossedly marching to the fake showers in the Kremas along the railtracks, month after month? Did she knew what was going on just a few meters away from the inmates barracks??? Do you think it is logical to undergo such a bizarre show of extermination in the middle of the camp where tens of thousands of spared jews were living?? don't you think this is a bit exhibitionistic for such a top secret operation?
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Spanish Dude
21.11.2008, 17:30
@ TheGayme
|
AAHHHH, Thanks! |
» Have you ever seen an open wound? That ain't what it looks like.
»
» That red stuff is the ACELL sheet (or a Chinese Chile Pepper ). It
» was probably moistened initially then dried out turning darker. The ACELL
» sheet is basically pig bladder so it will appear and behave somewhat like
» tissue.
OKAY. Understood now.
so, maybe the wound is not contracting as much as I thought.
ok, now that the ACELL sheet has been removed, we can see the real extent of the wound. If Dr. Jones takes the next photos also without any ACELL sheet, then we will be able to evaluate the evolution of the contraction process.
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Spanish Dude
21.11.2008, 17:35
@ marco
|
Dr Jones Acell update today |
» » He will post an update today so keep an eye on the webpage if you are
» » interested.
»
» Well, the results clearly show contraction of the wound and that is not a
» good thing. If the closure is by contraction (evident from the length of
» hair on the edge of the wound) and not by tissue generation then nothing is
» really gained. The surrounding tissue closes the wound and there is no new
» hair. The most that can be gained is a better scar.
That was precisely my point, but TheGayme has corrected me very well:
we don't know the extent of the wound at the beginning. The first photos apparently show the naked wound, but as TheGayme has pointed out, the wound is already covered by the ACELL sheet, so it looks wider than it really is (the ACELL sheet is red, just like the wound).
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FatalEvolution
URANUS,
21.11.2008, 18:03
@ Spanish Dude
|
And the wound is shrinking (contracting) |
» » » hello Fatal, how are you doing?
» » » yah, maybe that is a good solution for "scar repair", to turn the
» scar
» » » into a Rolling Stones mouth. I am sure girls will find it very hot.
» » LOL.
» »
» » hi, i mean heil, nazi boy
» » well i'm rather bald now, but i've gotten older too. Life goes on, so
» does
» » hairloss. What about you ? Still wearing a Stahlhelm to hide your bald
» » spots ? mmm...not the best tactic to find hotties imo
»
»
» Hahaha, I have a nice bald spot now. It looks horrific, but somehow, my
» brain gets used to it. Unfortunately, girls' brains don't get used to it.
»
» I am really tired of this. I didn't expect that all this HM-research was
» such a pile of shït. My hopes now are below zero. Even if Dr. Jones is
» successful with Acell, it will be a cumbersome procedure, expensive, and
» with results largely depending on the skills of the surgeon who does the
» implantation of the multiplied hair into the recipient site. This is
» looking very very grim.
yup, i haven't even read the post related to Acell stuff to be honest. Funny pictures though. I think anybody lurking this site for over a year with an IQ over 15 realized that hm is a lie. It's not going to happen anytime near or far. But the eternal debates on whether hm will be here in 5 years are worth reading if you need a laugh imo.
» ok, as you brought up the subject, I am going to ask you:
» do you still defend the biggest lie of all times, i.e. the Holocaust?
» You have had plenty of time to reflect, to google about it, etc... Have
» you finally interviewed your family member (female) who was inmate (spared)
» in Birkenau while +1 million jews were suppossedly marching to the fake
» showers in the Kremas along the railtracks, month after month? Did she knew
» what was going on just a few meters away from the inmates barracks??? Do
» you think it is logical to undergo such a bizarre show of extermination in
» the middle of the camp where tens of thousands of spared jews were living??
» don't you think this is a bit exhibitionistic for such a top secret
» operation?
Still not being a pathetic paranoid revisionist looser ... I guess my IQ is over 15, sorry dude !  on the other side, maybe it's why girls don't get used to your hairloss ?
...
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Spanish Dude
21.11.2008, 18:36
@ FatalEvolution
|
And the wound is shrinking (contracting) |
» » ok, as you brought up the subject, I am going to ask you:
» » do you still defend the biggest lie of all times, i.e. the Holocaust?
» » You have had plenty of time to reflect, to google about it, etc...
» Have
» » you finally interviewed your family member (female) who was inmate
» (spared)
» » in Birkenau while +1 million jews were suppossedly marching to the fake
» » showers in the Kremas along the railtracks, month after month? Did she
» knew
» » what was going on just a few meters away from the inmates barracks???
» Do
» » you think it is logical to undergo such a bizarre show of extermination
» in
» » the middle of the camp where tens of thousands of spared jews were
» living??
» » don't you think this is a bit exhibitionistic for such a top secret
» » operation?
»
» Still not being a pathetic paranoid revisionist looser ... I guess my IQ
» is over 15, sorry dude ! on the other side, maybe it's why girls don't
» get used to your hairloss ?
As you wish. Enjoy your superior IQ.
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FatalEvolution
URANUS,
21.11.2008, 19:31
@ Spanish Dude
|
And the wound is shrinking (contracting) |
» As you wish. Enjoy your superior IQ.
.. 15 is not that much, you can do it...come on SD!
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marco
U.K,
21.11.2008, 20:44
@ Spanish Dude
|
Dr Jones Acell update today |
»
» That was precisely my point, but TheGayme has corrected me very well:
» we don't know the extent of the wound at the beginning. The first photos
» apparently show the naked wound, but as TheGayme has pointed out, the wound
» is already covered by the ACELL sheet, so it looks wider than it really is
» (the ACELL sheet is red, just like the wound).
I am not sure that you took my point. If the wound was closing by regeneration then the surrounding skin would comprise new hair growth but if you look at the picture, as the wound is closing, the hair arround it is the old mature hair. This means that the wound is closing by contraction and not by regeneration of new hair.
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Spanish Dude
22.11.2008, 05:29
@ marco
|
Dr Jones Acell update today |
» »
» » That was precisely my point, but TheGayme has corrected me very well:
» » we don't know the extent of the wound at the beginning. The first
» photos
» » apparently show the naked wound, but as TheGayme has pointed out, the
» wound
» » is already covered by the ACELL sheet, so it looks wider than it really
» is
» » (the ACELL sheet is red, just like the wound).
»
» I am not sure that you took my point. If the wound was closing by
» regeneration then the surrounding skin would comprise new hair growth but
» if you look at the picture, as the wound is closing, the hair arround it is
» the old mature hair. This means that the wound is closing by contraction
» and not by regeneration of new hair.
I think, after TheGayme comments, that the wound has not closed at all, not by regeneration nor by contraction. Read my posts and Gayme's.
The wound looks wider in the first photos because it is covered with fresh, bloody, ACELL sheet. Then the ACELL sheet dried and turned brown, like a SCAB, and then the ACELL sheet was removed.
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maneless
23.11.2008, 09:32
(edited by maneless, 23.11.2008, 09:39)
@ TheGayme
|
Dr Jones Acell update today |
» » ahab, i think you are asking a good question, but from what i've been
» » reading the doctor is not appying this stuff often enough. it is
» supposed
» » to be supplied more than once and he is only applying it once.
»
» Maybe you should send him an email and tell him how it is done since you
» are an ACELL, uh, I mean "ACEL" expert.
»
» It's never been used this way so nobody knows how "it is supposed to be
» supplied". He is following ACELL's instructions. Just shut up and stay
» tuned.
No moron, it is not being used the way it is supposed to be used. For example:
1. others are posting about how in the past there were multiple applications of ACELL to other patients.
2. in other past patients, long-dead scar tissue wasn't removed and then ACELL applied to that area. in fact, in the past, ACELL was applied to recent wounds not old dead scar tissue that had been dead for years.
So your statement that the ACELL treatment is being used correctly is, well, incorrect. Indeed, in regards to ACELL, except for your uncanny ability to spell ACELL correctly you don't have any of your facts straight so you shut up moron.
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