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martinstern

15.06.2010, 11:44

Which DHT Blockers should i Take? (Hair Loss Supplements)

ok so i want to start taking DHT blockers,

currently i take MSM 2000 a day,and biotin b12,too

which DHT blockers would u recommend i take?

martinstern is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

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gutted

15.06.2010, 12:25

@ martinstern
Which DHT Blockers should i Take?

� ok so i want to start taking DHT blockers,
�
� currently i take MSM 2000 a day,and biotin b12,too
�
� which DHT blockers would u recommend i take?

borage oil, flax seed oil, hemp oil or evening primrose oil
people dont know this but these are natrual dht blockers, albeit mild and over time, if you are consistent enough will make your hair grow in thicker, starting off at a lower dosage an building your way up MAY eliminate the diffused shedding that people experience when starting new treatmens.

gutted is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

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martinstern

15.06.2010, 12:37

@ gutted
Which DHT Blockers should i Take?

� � ok so i want to start taking DHT blockers,
� �
� � currently i take MSM 2000 a day,and biotin b12,too
� �
� � which DHT blockers would u recommend i take?
�
� borage oil, flax seed oil, hemp oil or evening primrose oil
� people dont know this but these are natrual dht blockers, albeit mild and
� over time, if you are consistent enough will make your hair grow in
� thicker, starting off at a lower dosage an building your way up MAY
� eliminate the diffused shedding that people experience when starting new
� treatmens.

theres no one dht blocker pill,i can take instead of taking all these separately?

martinstern is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

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Bryan

15.06.2010, 13:33

@ gutted
Which DHT Blockers should i Take?

� borage oil, flax seed oil, hemp oil or evening
� primrose oil people dont know this but these
� are natrual dht blockers...

What specifically do you mean by a "DHT blocker", and why do you think the oils you mentioned above would do such a thing?

Bryan is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

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gutted

15.06.2010, 20:26

@ Bryan
Which DHT Blockers should i Take?

� � borage oil, flax seed oil, hemp oil or evening
� � primrose oil people dont know this but these
� � are natrual dht blockers...
�
� What specifically do you mean by a "DHT blocker", and why do you think the
� oils you mentioned above would do such a thing?

ala, gla etc they are apparently dht blockers.

theres no one dht blocking pill apart from propecia but people take a combo od saw palmetto and beta sis to block dht but i had a very bad experience with this and would not recommend it, but if you really want to block dht saw palmetto ALONE may be ok for you, if you are at early stage mpb.

gutted is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

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The Natural

15.06.2010, 21:44

@ Bryan
Which DHT Blockers should i Take?

� What specifically do you mean by a "DHT blocker", and why do you think the
� oils you mentioned above would do such a thing?

Bryan has given up on trying to save his hair from falling out. He doesn't even have a regimen.

The Natural is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
---
The Natural Internal Regimen

mornings - vitamin C + aged garlic extract; mid-mornings - curcumin (Meriva) + cayenne pepper/ginger; afternoons - algae extract; bedtime - MSM (OptiMSM)

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The Natural

15.06.2010, 21:47

@ martinstern
Which DHT Blockers should i Take?

There are quite a few commercial "prostate formulas" available. They usually contain a variety of herbs and vitamins that are purported to inhibit the formation of DHT (e.g. saw palmetto, beta sitosterol, pygeum).

The Natural is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
---
The Natural Internal Regimen

mornings - vitamin C + aged garlic extract; mid-mornings - curcumin (Meriva) + cayenne pepper/ginger; afternoons - algae extract; bedtime - MSM (OptiMSM)

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Bryan

15.06.2010, 23:02

@ gutted
Which DHT Blockers should i Take?

� ala, gla etc they are apparently dht blockers.

Are you saying you think they are 5a-reductase inhibitors, like finasteride and dutasteride? Certain specific fatty acids like OA, ALA, GLA, etc., are 5a-reductase inhibitors, but natural oils like the ones you mentioned before (borage, flax, hemp, evening primrose, etc.) are not. They don't have that effect.

Bryan is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

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goata007

16.06.2010, 01:56

@ Bryan
Which DHT Blockers should i Take?

� Are you saying you think they are 5a-reductase inhibitors, like
� finasteride and dutasteride? Certain specific fatty acids like OA, ALA,
� GLA, etc., are 5a-reductase inhibitors, but natural oils like the ones you
� mentioned before (borage, flax, hemp, evening primrose, etc.) are not.
� They don't have that effect.

What do you think of essential oils like Tea Tree, Lavender etc?

goata007 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
---
"If we knew what it was that we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein

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gutted

16.06.2010, 10:51

@ Bryan
Which DHT Blockers should i Take?

� � ala, gla etc they are apparently dht blockers.
�
� Are you saying you think they are 5a-reductase inhibitors, like
� finasteride and dutasteride? Certain specific fatty acids like OA, ALA,
� GLA, etc., are 5a-reductase inhibitors, but natural oils like the ones you
� mentioned before (borage, flax, hemp, evening primrose, etc.) are not.
� They don't have that effect.

yes i do believe this even though i have not tried any of them.
the natrual oils borgae, flax etc contain most of those acids.

many people taking flax seed oil have noticed hair shedding/falling out while consuming flax: read the comments section on this page
http://www.baldingblog.com/2006/04/14/flax-seed-oil-and-hair-loss/

this COULD be the shedding phase which people get during propecia.
also i listed a patent regarding these acids for use in baldness and hair retardatio on hairlosshe.

gutted is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

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Bryan

16.06.2010, 11:36

@ gutted
Which DHT Blockers should i Take?

� yes i do believe this even though i have not tried any of them.
� the natrual oils borgae, flax etc contain most of those acids.

Yes, but only in the form of various mono-, di-, and triglycerides; the fatty acids have to be in their "free" (unesterified) form, to inhibit 5a-reductase. That's why the natural oils don't work for that specific purpose.

Bryan is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

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Bryan

16.06.2010, 11:40

@ goata007
Which DHT Blockers should i Take?

� What do you think of essential oils like Tea Tree, Lavender etc?

I don't have any opinion on them. Sorry.

Bryan is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

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goata007

16.06.2010, 20:35

@ Bryan
Which DHT Blockers should i Take?

� � What do you think of essential oils like Tea Tree, Lavender etc?
�
� I don't have any opinion on them. Sorry.

There are several published studies, usually posted by michael on another forum, that claim essential oils' do inhibit DHT.

Also, there's a thread in HM section about hair follicle cycles...can you look at some of the posts there and comment on what you think?

goata007 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
---
"If we knew what it was that we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein

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martinstern 15.06.2010, 11:44	Which DHT Blockers should i Take? (Hair Loss Supplements)
	ok so i want to start taking DHT blockers, currently i take MSM 2000 a day,and biotin b12,too which DHT blockers would u recommend i take? martinstern is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
gutted 15.06.2010, 12:25 @ martinstern	Which DHT Blockers should i Take?
	� ok so i want to start taking DHT blockers, � � currently i take MSM 2000 a day,and biotin b12,too � � which DHT blockers would u recommend i take? borage oil, flax seed oil, hemp oil or evening primrose oil people dont know this but these are natrual dht blockers, albeit mild and over time, if you are consistent enough will make your hair grow in thicker, starting off at a lower dosage an building your way up MAY eliminate the diffused shedding that people experience when starting new treatmens. gutted is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
martinstern 15.06.2010, 12:37 @ gutted	Which DHT Blockers should i Take?
	� � ok so i want to start taking DHT blockers, � � � � currently i take MSM 2000 a day,and biotin b12,too � � � � which DHT blockers would u recommend i take? � � borage oil, flax seed oil, hemp oil or evening primrose oil � people dont know this but these are natrual dht blockers, albeit mild and � over time, if you are consistent enough will make your hair grow in � thicker, starting off at a lower dosage an building your way up MAY � eliminate the diffused shedding that people experience when starting new � treatmens. theres no one dht blocker pill,i can take instead of taking all these separately? martinstern is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
Bryan 15.06.2010, 13:33 @ gutted	Which DHT Blockers should i Take?
	� borage oil, flax seed oil, hemp oil or evening � primrose oil people dont know this but these � are natrual dht blockers... What specifically do you mean by a "DHT blocker", and why do you think the oils you mentioned above would do such a thing? Bryan is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
gutted 15.06.2010, 20:26 @ Bryan	Which DHT Blockers should i Take?
	� � borage oil, flax seed oil, hemp oil or evening � � primrose oil people dont know this but these � � are natrual dht blockers... � � What specifically do you mean by a "DHT blocker", and why do you think the � oils you mentioned above would do such a thing? ala, gla etc they are apparently dht blockers. theres no one dht blocking pill apart from propecia but people take a combo od saw palmetto and beta sis to block dht but i had a very bad experience with this and would not recommend it, but if you really want to block dht saw palmetto ALONE may be ok for you, if you are at early stage mpb. gutted is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
The Natural 15.06.2010, 21:44 @ Bryan	Which DHT Blockers should i Take?
	� What specifically do you mean by a "DHT blocker", and why do you think the � oils you mentioned above would do such a thing? Bryan has given up on trying to save his hair from falling out. He doesn't even have a regimen. The Natural is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- The Natural Internal Regimen mornings - vitamin C + aged garlic extract; mid-mornings - curcumin (Meriva) + cayenne pepper/ginger; afternoons - algae extract; bedtime - MSM (OptiMSM) Post reply
The Natural 15.06.2010, 21:47 @ martinstern	Which DHT Blockers should i Take?
	There are quite a few commercial "prostate formulas" available. They usually contain a variety of herbs and vitamins that are purported to inhibit the formation of DHT (e.g. saw palmetto, beta sitosterol, pygeum). The Natural is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- The Natural Internal Regimen mornings - vitamin C + aged garlic extract; mid-mornings - curcumin (Meriva) + cayenne pepper/ginger; afternoons - algae extract; bedtime - MSM (OptiMSM) Post reply
Bryan 15.06.2010, 23:02 @ gutted	Which DHT Blockers should i Take?
	� ala, gla etc they are apparently dht blockers. Are you saying you think they are 5a-reductase inhibitors, like finasteride and dutasteride? Certain specific fatty acids like OA, ALA, GLA, etc., are 5a-reductase inhibitors, but natural oils like the ones you mentioned before (borage, flax, hemp, evening primrose, etc.) are not. They don't have that effect. Bryan is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
goata007 16.06.2010, 01:56 @ Bryan	Which DHT Blockers should i Take?
	� Are you saying you think they are 5a-reductase inhibitors, like � finasteride and dutasteride? Certain specific fatty acids like OA, ALA, � GLA, etc., are 5a-reductase inhibitors, but natural oils like the ones you � mentioned before (borage, flax, hemp, evening primrose, etc.) are not. � They don't have that effect. What do you think of essential oils like Tea Tree, Lavender etc? goata007 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- "If we knew what it was that we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein Post reply
gutted 16.06.2010, 10:51 @ Bryan	Which DHT Blockers should i Take?
	� � ala, gla etc they are apparently dht blockers. � � Are you saying you think they are 5a-reductase inhibitors, like � finasteride and dutasteride? Certain specific fatty acids like OA, ALA, � GLA, etc., are 5a-reductase inhibitors, but natural oils like the ones you � mentioned before (borage, flax, hemp, evening primrose, etc.) are not. � They don't have that effect. yes i do believe this even though i have not tried any of them. the natrual oils borgae, flax etc contain most of those acids. many people taking flax seed oil have noticed hair shedding/falling out while consuming flax: read the comments section on this page http://www.baldingblog.com/2006/04/14/flax-seed-oil-and-hair-loss/ this COULD be the shedding phase which people get during propecia. also i listed a patent regarding these acids for use in baldness and hair retardatio on hairlosshe. gutted is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
Bryan 16.06.2010, 11:36 @ gutted	Which DHT Blockers should i Take?
	� yes i do believe this even though i have not tried any of them. � the natrual oils borgae, flax etc contain most of those acids. Yes, but only in the form of various mono-, di-, and triglycerides; the fatty acids have to be in their "free" (unesterified) form, to inhibit 5a-reductase. That's why the natural oils don't work for that specific purpose. Bryan is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
Bryan 16.06.2010, 11:40 @ goata007	Which DHT Blockers should i Take?
	� What do you think of essential oils like Tea Tree, Lavender etc? I don't have any opinion on them. Sorry. Bryan is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
goata007 16.06.2010, 20:35 @ Bryan	Which DHT Blockers should i Take?
	� � What do you think of essential oils like Tea Tree, Lavender etc? � � I don't have any opinion on them. Sorry. There are several published studies, usually posted by michael on another forum, that claim essential oils' do inhibit DHT. Also, there's a thread in HM section about hair follicle cycles...can you look at some of the posts there and comment on what you think? goata007 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- "If we knew what it was that we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein Post reply