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quarterhead

19.03.2011, 12:19
 

Can you get dht blockers in topical formula? (Hair Loss Supplements)

a question

do you think its possible to apply dht blockers in topical formula, such as saw palmetto , finesteride etc?



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Pete2

20.03.2011, 10:25

@ quarterhead

Can you get dht blockers in topical formula?

» a question
»
» do you think its possible to apply dht blockers in topical formula, such as
» saw palmetto , finesteride etc?


yes - these alone wont do alot.




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quarterhead

20.03.2011, 13:26

@ Pete2

Can you get dht blockers in topical formula?

I'm taking biotin, niacin, vitamin d3, and a chelated multi mineral daily.

topically, i just pour aloe vera water every day and let it dry on my head . it helped slowing down the shedding as it made my itching and inflammation almost disappear.

every two days i i spray on my head a home prepared mixture of
( calendula succuss, aloe vera water, several drops from lavender oil, thyme oil, tea tree oil.)
it is antiseptic and kills all the dandruff. Since i started using it all my dandruff disappeared and mind u, I suffer from sebhorric dermatitis which is far more extreme than regular dandruff.

sop I need to help support my hair too. and it seems that the only missing thing from my regimen is a dht blocker. and i mentioned before , ican't take them internally since i have a very sensitive stomach.



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suckhair

21.03.2011, 02:04

@ quarterhead

Can you get dht blockers in topical formula?

» a question
»
» do you think its possible to apply dht blockers in topical formula, such as
» saw palmetto , finesteride etc?

Yes, the main problem is : It will be just topical or it will be absorb sytemic ? For example if you appply finasteride topical, it will be absorb in systemic way and it will lower your dht levels in your whole body.
Ketoconazole and spironolactone are the best way to go in the topical route



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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
21.03.2011, 05:37

@ suckhair

Can you get dht blockers in topical formula?

» » a question
» »
» » do you think its possible to apply dht blockers in topical formula, such
» as
» » saw palmetto , finesteride etc?
»
» Yes, the main problem is : It will be just topical or it will be absorb
» sytemic ? For example if you appply finasteride topical, it will be absorb
» in systemic way and it will lower your dht levels in your whole body.
» Ketoconazole and spironolactone are the best way to go in the topical route

keto can be absorbed systemically also




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quarterhead

21.03.2011, 10:06

@ HanginInThere

Can you get dht blockers in topical formula?

So all topicals result in systematic absorption?
what s an alternative



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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
21.03.2011, 10:34

@ quarterhead

Can you get dht blockers in topical formula?

» So all topicals result in systematic absorption?
» what s an alternative

I said "can be"

not necessarily "will be"




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quarterhead

21.03.2011, 19:25

@ HanginInThere

Hangin

I know you don't use any topicals.
I tired rogaine and minoxidol . they caused itchiness and didt work for me . Do u recommend anything for me?
And what about the keto? do they mean by that nizoral?

help



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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
21.03.2011, 19:45

@ quarterhead

Hangin

» I know you don't use any topicals.
» I tired rogaine and minoxidol . they caused itchiness and didt work for me
» . Do u recommend anything for me?
» And what about the keto? do they mean by that nizoral?
»
» help

I used nixoral cream for 1 yr in 2008 had no problem other than big shed thinning which subsequently grew back much much thicker. yes ketoconazole is nizoral




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quarterhead

21.03.2011, 22:04

@ HanginInThere

Hangin

Thank u
I guess I'll order it



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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
21.03.2011, 23:42

@ quarterhead

Hangin

» Thank u
» I guess I'll order it

only use it about 2 to 3 times per week dont leave it on overnight only maybe an hour or so

DO NOT use it every day, that is why you get problems with systemic absorbtion

also get the 2 percent




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Pete2

22.03.2011, 19:13

@ quarterhead

Can you get dht blockers in topical formula?

» So all topicals result in systematic absorption?
» what s an alternative



Heres one:

http://www.elsomresearch.com/shopping/products/scalp-extreme.htm


:)




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quarterhead

23.03.2011, 09:39

@ HanginInThere

Hangin

Thanks Hangin

I will use the shampoo. 2-3 times weekly for 5 min. each time.
Did ur scalp get inflamed from using it. I remember i tried it several years ago for a short time. and it caused some red bumpy spots.



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quarterhead

23.03.2011, 09:43

@ Pete2

Can you get dht blockers in topical formula?

Hey Pete

I looked at their website.
The problem is that , I think toplicals like minoxidol or rogaine which i 've tried did not help me because of the extreme inflammation they caused.
so I'm trying to figure out what are the substances that cause this irritation , and if the y r used in all topicals including elsom. I contacted the website and asked them but they did not get back to me.

besides, u showed me a link for testimonials on other forums. I opened the link and couldn't find the post regarding this topical



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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
23.03.2011, 19:00

@ quarterhead

Hangin

» Thanks Hangin
»
» I will use the shampoo. 2-3 times weekly for 5 min. each time.
» Did ur scalp get inflamed from using it. I remember i tried it several
» years ago for a short time. and it caused some red bumpy spots.

i dont recommend the shampoo
yes it will dry your scalp like wild and I hated the shampoo it is very harsh and has HCL (hydrochloric acid in it)

I dont care about the anti dandruff which is what the shampoo is for
I just want the ketoconazole so I used the cream (2 Percent)




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The Natural

23.03.2011, 22:44

@ HanginInThere

Crown

Nizoral did nothing for HanginInThere's bald crown. And that is what he used it for. A fact.




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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
23.03.2011, 23:13

@ The Natural

And your curry powder regrows hair on bald spots right? LOL

» Nizoral did nothing for HanginInThere's bald crown. And that is what he
» used it for. A fact.

When you find something that regrows hair on crown bald spot actually
when you find anything that grows hair on bald spot anywhere on the scalp that is 10 yrs old......................let me know you will be a billionaire

nothing can do that, if the follicles are dead they are dead
The japanese study with niz cream the younger newly balding guys had much much more dramatic positive results

Conclusion? when the follicles die they die, 10 yrs later if you try to revive them, good luck.

btw niz cream thickened my hair on the sides and top front immensely

Conclusion? niz cream if it does work on you works 100 times better on "thinning" areas than it does on bald areas

of course this is true with any regimen, this was the same with my internal dht blockers also

let me know when you find something that regrows hair on 10 yr old bald spots, I can look you up in bill gates neighborhood




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Manila(UwishUrHere),
23.03.2011, 23:18

@ HanginInThere

Nizoral study, read it and weep

Notice to "theNatural" (The Jealous one)
If you pay attention and can read you will notice the younger more recently lost hair test subjects are the ones with the best results with nizoral cream.

As I said the longer ago you lost the hair the less your chances of regrowing it, I think this is true with any regimen


10 year old bald spots GOOD LUCK GETTING ANYTHING TO GROW THERE





Japanese study nizoral CREAM ie Ketoconazole (Hair Loss Research & Clinical Trials)

posted by HanginInThere, Manila(UwishUrHere), 23.03.2008, 16:15

Your implication that the shampoo works better because of absorbing into a wet scalp, although on its face it may appear valid, does not hold true, since the study subjects all applied the cream immediately after shampooing, thus onto a WET SCALP,


http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-6113-page-4-category-3-order-last_answer.html
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Ketoconazole (KCZ), an imidazole anti-fungal agent, is known to be effective for the treatment of seborrheic dermatitis and dandruff. In addition, 2% KCZ shampoo was found to improve hair density and the size and proportion of anagen follicles in androgenetic alopecia (AGA) [1] and, in combination with finasteride, to have an additive effect for AGA [2]. Recently, it has been reported that topical application of KCZ stimulates hair growth in C3H/HeN mice [3]. However, whether topical KCZ is effective enough to improve the clinical appearance of AGA is not yet clear. We therefore carried out an open trial of topical 2% KCZ lotion (Nizoral®) in combination with shampoos. Furthermore, to identify the mechanism, which can explain the clinical effect of KCZ on AGA, we performed transient transfection assays using CV-1 cells transfected with androgen receptors (AR).

The six Japanese males from 23 to 51 years old were enrolled in this study with their written informed consent. They presented with grade II vertex to IVa AGA according to the Hamilton–Norwood classification [4]. The subjects applied topical 2% KCZ lotion (Nizoral®) almost every day during or immediately after hair washing with their own unmedicated shampoos. When they revisited our clinic every several months, clinical pictures were obtained to determine the efficacy of the treatment. Two of the men, one 23 years old with grade II vertex and the other 25 years old with Va AGA, showed remarkable hair regrowth after 6 and 10 months, respectively (Fig. 1). The 23-year-old male stopped using KCZ and 3 months later hair loss recurrence on the vertex was noted (Fig. 1c). When he started using KCZ again during shampooing, hairs on the vertex grew again after 3 months (Fig. 1d). These findings constitute evidence of the clinical efficacy of KCZ for AGA. A 41-year-old male showed a slight increase in vertex hair growth after 1 year. Other three of the men, 31, 38 and 51 years old did not show significant improvement. These findings suggest that topical KCZ with shampoo can be effective for some males with AGA.



Fig. 1. A 23-year-old Japanese man who used 2% ketoconazole (KCZ) lotion during shampooing everyday. Six months later, hair regrowth was attained (b) in comparison with the pre-treatment condition (a). Suspension of use for 3 months, however, caused recurrent hair loss (c). Renewed use of KCZ induced renewed growth of vertex hair (d). A 25-year-old Japanese man with AGA (e) applied 2% KCZ lotion immediately after shampooing everyday. Ten months later, hair regrowth was apparent (f).

To identify the mechanism, which can explain the effect of KCZ on AGA, we performed transient transfection assays using an androgen-responsive synthetic promoter for CV-1 cells transfected with AR. At 50–70% confluency in a 24-well plate, the CV-1 cells, maintained in Dulbecco's modified Eagle's medium (DMEM) supplemented with 10% fetal bovine serum, were transfected with the transfection reagent Fugene-6 (Roche Diagnostics Corp., Indianapolis, IN, USA) according to the manufacturer's instructions. For luciferase assays, we transfected 0.1&#956;g of the reporter plasmid, pGL2-GRE3-bG-luc [5], 12.5ng of pCI-neo-BamX-AR(Gly23) [5] and 0.2&#956;g of the pRL-CMV vector, the Renilla luciferase control reporter vector driven by the CMV immediate-early enhancer/promoter, as the internal controls. At 24h after transfection, we added fresh DMEM supplemented with 10% charcoal-treated fetal bovine serum with methyltrienolone (R1881, a stable synthetic androgen) or ethanol as a mock vehicle. The cells were also treated with KCZ (Janssen, L.P., Titusville, NJ) or ethanol as a mock vehicle. At 48h after transfection, the cells were harvested for luciferase assays. Luciferase activities were measured with a luminometer using the Dual-Luciferase™ reporter assay system (Promega, Madison, WI). The results were summarized from three independent sets of transfections and presented as mean±S.D.; statistical significance was tested with Student's t-test. The results demonstrated that 10 or 20&#956;g/ml KCZ reduced luciferase activity to 67.5% (p<0.01) or 49.9% (p<0.03), respectively, reflecting its suppressive action on AR (Fig. 2). This finding suggests that KCZ improves AGA through the suppression of AR activity.



Fig. 2. KCZ effect on R1881-induced AR transcactivity in CV-1 cells transfected with AR. We used the transfection reagent Fugene-6 (Roche Diagnostics Corp., Indianapolis, IN, USA) to transfect 0.1&#956;g of the reporter plasmid, pGL2-GRE3-bG-luc, 12.5ng of pCI-neo-BamX-AR(Gly23) and 0.2&#956;g of pRL-CMV vector (lanes 1–6) into CV-1 cells cultured at 50–70% confluency in a 24-well plate. The infected cells were treated with 10&#8722;9M R1881 (lanes 2–6) or ethanol as a mock vehicle (lane 1). After overnight incubation, KCZ at the indicated concentration was added to the cultures. The activities of the various reporter genes were compared with the luciferase activity in the presence of R1881 and the absence of KCZ (lane 2).

Dermal papilla cells are the main targets for androgen in hair follicles, as evidenced by immunohistochemistry [6] and reporter assays [7] for the detection of AR. Deep penetration of KCZ into dermal papilla is therefore necessary to realize the suppressive action on androgen in vivo. The use of KCZ in combination with detergent containing shampoos in this study may enhance KCZ penetration. On the other hand, a recent study demonstrated that KCZ stimulates hair growth in mice [3], suggesting that its effect on hair is androgen independent. To summarize, KCZ may exert its effect on AGA in both an androgen-dependent and -independent manner.




References
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[1]. [1]Pierard-Franchimont C, De Doncker P, Cauwenbergh G, Pierard GE. Ketoconazole shampoo: effect of long-term use in androgenic alopecia. Dermatology. 1998;196:474–477. MEDLINE | CrossRef

[2]. [2]Khandpur S, Suman M, Reddy BS. Comparative efficacy of various treatment regimens for androgenetic alopecia in men. J Dermatol. 2002;29:489–498. MEDLINE

[3]. [3]Jiang J, Tsuboi R, Kojima Y, Ogawa H. Topical application of ketoconazole stimulates hair growth in C3H/HeN mice. J Dermatol. 2005;32:243–247. MEDLINE

[4]. [4]Norwood OT. Male pattern baldness: classification and incidence. South Med J. 1975;68:1359–1365. MEDLINE

[5]. [5]Inui S, Nakao T, Itami S. Modulation of androgen receptor transcriptional activity by anti-acne reagents. J Dermatol Sci. 2004;36:97–101. Abstract | Full Text | Full-Text PDF (135 KB) | MEDLINE | CrossRef

[6]. [6]Itami S, Kurata S, Sonoda T, Takayasu S. Interaction between dermal papilla cells and follicular epithelial cells in vitro: effect of androgen. Br J Dermatol. 1995;132:527–532. MEDLINE

[7]. [7]Inui S, Itami S, Pan HJ, Chang C. Lack of androgen transcriptional activity in human keratinocytes. J Dermatol Sci. 2000;23:87–92. Abstract | Full Text | Full-Text PDF (106 KB) | MEDLINE | CrossRef




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The Natural

24.03.2011, 00:25

@ HanginInThere

Crown

So...what was the point of you using Nizoral on your crown?

And why have you been skipping around this forum, telling posters that your hair looks fine, except for the crown. C'mon, dude. You have been caught in another lie: "btw niz cream thickened my hair on the sides and top front immensely." Yeah sure it did...NOT! :no:

Now everyone knows Saw Palmetto and Beta Sitosterol did NOT and could NOT "maintain the rest of your hair." If they could, you'd have had no reason to apply Nizoral there, and no way to be able to see a difference, unless your hair was thinning in the front to begin with, you little liar.




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quarterhead

24.03.2011, 01:16

@ The Natural

keto cream - hangin

Hangin

Do you know if its possible to buy it over the counter or is it a prescription drug?

as I understood from u before, use it for 2-3 times a week

when do u oput it ? how much u use on the scalp -generous application or moderate?

how long do you keep it on the scalp before taking a shower?

thanks



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Manila(UwishUrHere),
24.03.2011, 01:51

@ The Natural

Crown

» So...what was the point of you using Nizoral on your crown?

err to see if it works on the crown bozo :-D :-D
»
» And why have you been skipping around this forum, telling posters that your
» hair looks fine, except for the crown. C'mon, dude.

Because it does, other than the crown. You are really slow arent you?


You have been caught
» in another lie: "btw niz cream thickened my hair on the sides and top
» front immensely." Yeah sure it did...NOT! :no:

\What I said is exactly what happened, top front and sides thickened immensely, crown no response. Should I say it more slowly so you can understand it? what is the problem?
»
» Now everyone knows Saw Palmetto and Beta Sitosterol did NOT and
» could NOT "maintain the rest of your hair." If they could, you'd
» have had no reason to apply Nizoral there, and no way to be able to see a
» difference, unless your hair was thinning in the front to begin with, you
» little liar.

Saw Palmetto and the other DHT Blockers maintained my sides and top front very well, in fact they thickened up quite a bit. But, there was still progress to be made. Did I say the natural dht blockers healed my hair to where it looked like it was never thinning on the sides and back? you are delusional and desperate

the sides and back I would say were paper thin in 1999 when i started on the dht blockers I estimate 30 percent of the hair remained. After 5 yrs or so on the dht blockers I would say the top front was 60 percent of the hair there, the sides I estimate 80 percent of the hair was there from thicker days, it is still extremely thick on the sides and back. The niz cream I used mainly on the top front that regrew amazingly after the initial shed. I used it mainly on the back below the crown where it was starting to thin a bit, That thickened a heck of a lot, with the niz, though I wish it would have thickened more

you cling to straws hoping to make a point, and you fail miserably

by the way do you have any hair remaining on top or are you nw8 now? :lol2:




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Manila(UwishUrHere),
24.03.2011, 01:52

@ quarterhead

keto cream - hangin

» Hangin
»
» Do you know if its possible to buy it over the counter or is it a
» prescription drug?
»
» as I understood from u before, use it for 2-3 times a week
»
» when do u oput it ? how much u use on the scalp -generous application or
» moderate?
»
» how long do you keep it on the scalp before taking a shower?
»
» thanks

in the USA i THINK it needs a prescription
in the phils i just buy it without one




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The Natural

24.03.2011, 02:39

@ HanginInThere

Crown

So why, pray tell, don't you use Nizoral now?

Oh, this should be good. Can't wait for this answer.




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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
24.03.2011, 03:32

@ The Natural

Crown

» So why, pray tell, don't you use Nizoral now?
»
» Oh, this should be good. Can't wait for this answer.

first of all i used it hoping it would thicken up the crown or make it respond

it did not...........got it?
you really are slow arent you

The thickening it accomplished in the top front is very welcome, but I did not like the shockloss thinning that happened at first and it scared the crap out of me, and i was amazed it grew back at all much less thicker *which it did do*

I dont like that thinning shockloss and i dont trust that if it happened again, that it would grow back, who knows it might do it again and NOT grow back

it still looks pretty damn good on the top front, I am happy with it, in fact after the niz cream even two years taking NOTHING, no supps at all (pay attention now) has not really negatively affected my hair at all

the nizoral cream really seemed to do something internally to the hair that it needed,

If it starts getting really bad again I guess I MAY try niz cream on a very limited basis, who knows

is that enough information for you Bozo?




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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
24.03.2011, 03:34

@ quarterhead

keto cream - hangin

» Hangin
»
» Do you know if its possible to buy it over the counter or is it a
» prescription drug?
»
» as I understood from u before, use it for 2-3 times a week
»
» when do u oput it ? how much u use on the scalp -generous application or
» moderate?
»
» how long do you keep it on the scalp before taking a shower?
»
» thanks

I was applying it generously parting the hair all over takes a long time, but I was leaving it on all night, and using it every day
this is not recommended
it can be systemically absorbed if you do that, it only needs to be used several times per week, ideally




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The Natural

24.03.2011, 04:05

@ HanginInThere

Crown

Irrational behavior. But here you are recommending Nizoral to other posters. Crazy, when you don't trust the stuff enough to continue using it.

You were bragging all this time about your hair looking great, except for the crown, and now come to find out that the top of your head was/is thinning too. But I figured as much. Aint no way in the world DHT blockers can maintain the hair of a 50 - 60 year old man who suffers from male pattern baldness. Impossible.

Finally the truth comes out.




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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
24.03.2011, 05:17

@ The Natural

Where are your photos, Hotshot

Your basic premise is my regimen sucks and I lied about it, but your regimen works great ,

Hey here is a thought

PROVE IT

Where are your pics of your great success with your regimen?




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The Natural

24.03.2011, 05:33

@ HanginInThere

Maintain

Aint no way in the world DHT blockers can maintain the hair of a 50 - 60 year old man who suffers from male pattern baldness.

Impossible.




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Manila(UwishUrHere),
24.03.2011, 05:57

@ The Natural

As I predicted the coward is afraid to answer the question

I knew you would be too chicken to even answer the question about providing proof your regimen worked on YOU. I didnt even get to hear excuses why you cant provide a photo. you just stay silent.......

GAME

SET

MATCH




I think that pretty much sums it up
when push comes to shove

you pee your pants, run and hide


:clap: :clap: :clap: :rotfl:




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Cole Kutz

24.03.2011, 07:30

@ HanginInThere

As I predicted the coward is afraid to answer the question

» I knew you would be too chicken to even answer the question
» about providing proof your regimen worked on YOU. I didnt even get to hear
» excuses why you cant provide a photo. you just stay silent.......
»
» GAME
»
» SET
»
» MATCH
»
»
»
» I think that pretty much sums it up
» when push comes to shove
»
» you pee your pants, run and hide
»
» :clap: :clap: :clap: :rotfl:






what the hell are you two bitchin' about now???




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Manila(UwishUrHere),
24.03.2011, 08:13

@ Cole Kutz

As I predicted the coward is afraid to answer the question

» » I knew you would be too chicken to even answer the question
» » about providing proof your regimen worked on YOU. I didnt even get to
» hear
» » excuses why you cant provide a photo. you just stay silent.......
» »
» » GAME
» »
» » SET
» »
» » MATCH
» »
» »
» »
» » I think that pretty much sums it up
» » when push comes to shove
» »
» » you pee your pants, run and hide
» »
» » :clap: :clap: :clap: :rotfl:
»
»
»
»
»
»
» what the hell are you two bitchin' about now???

who the fk are you?
23 posts? LOL




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quarterhead

24.03.2011, 10:00

@ HanginInThere

keto cream - hangin

Much appreciated Hangin

I googled the product , but it returns result of either 7 keto or 7keto DHEA

are these the same or sth different ?



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Manila(UwishUrHere),
24.03.2011, 12:20

@ quarterhead

keto cream - hangin

» Much appreciated Hangin
»
» I googled the product , but it returns result of either 7 keto or 7keto
» DHEA
»
» are these the same or sth different ?

never heard of either

I just bought nizoral cream 2 percent




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The Natural

24.03.2011, 20:13

@ HanginInThere

DHT Blockers

Aint no way in the world DHT blockers can maintain the hair of a 50 - 60 year old man who suffers from male pattern baldness. Just ask HanginInThere.

He'll tell you that they can...but then, turn right around, and state that he used Nizoral cream for the bald hole in the back of his head, oh, and for his ever thinning front.

But his story gets better.

Then he states that the Nizoral cream grew his hair back thicker than before, but he's too scared to use it again, though he'll gladly recommend it to other posters. Huh???

Complete nonsense.

Then he posts some pictures on the board, and claims they are of him. When another poster pointed out that the pictures were of different people :yes:, HanginInThere quickly took them down, never to display them again.

Tsk tsk.




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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
24.03.2011, 20:16

@ The Natural

D pics boss D pics

The photos .........................the photos.................The natural is afraid to post dem..................:-D :-D :-D :-D


hey fool nobody believes you now. :-P :-P :-P




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The Natural

24.03.2011, 21:34

@ HanginInThere

The Joker

Aint no way in the world DHT blockers can maintain the hair of a 50 - 60 year old man who suffers from male pattern baldness. Just ask HanginInThere.

He'll tell you that they can...but then, turn right around, and state that he used Nizoral cream for the bald hole in the back of his head, oh, and for his ever thinning front.

But his story gets better.

Then he states that the Nizoral cream grew his hair back thicker than before, but he's too scared to use it again, though he'll gladly recommend it to other posters. Huh???

Complete nonsense.

Then he posts some pictures on the board, and claims they are of him. When another poster pointed out that the pictures were of different people , HanginInThere quickly took them down, never to display them again.

Tsk tsk.




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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
24.03.2011, 22:15

@ The Natural

The rapidly balding storyteller

1. the guy is bald as a baby's butt

2. he tried basically every regimen out there and nothing has worked

3. he is saving for a hair transplant

4. the last thing in the world he would do is post pictures of himself

5. he basically has no regimen that works, but he tries to make guys on the board take his dangerous blood thinning regimen

Gee that sounds normal, certainly what a successful regimen would inspire someone to do

POST YOUR PICS HOTSHOT
:-P :-P :-P :-P




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The Natural

25.03.2011, 00:16

@ HanginInThere

Fact v. Fiction

Aint no way in the world DHT blockers can maintain the hair of a 50 - 60 year old man who suffers from male pattern baldness. Just ask HanginInThere.

He'll tell you that they can...but then, turn right around, and state that he used Nizoral cream for the bald hole in the back of his head, oh, and for his ever thinning front.

But his story gets better.

Then he states that the Nizoral cream grew his hair back thicker than before, but he's too scared to use it again, though he'll gladly recommend it to other posters. Huh???

Complete nonsense.

Then he posts some pictures on the board, and claims they are of him. When another poster pointed out that the pictures were of different people, HanginInThere quickly took them down, never to display them again.

Ridiculous.

I hear your hits in the background...




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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
25.03.2011, 06:24

@ The Natural

Fact : You are DEATHLY Afraid to post your pictures



Lets assume, (like I said before Einstein) that my regimen doesnt work

What about YOUR regimen? I guess you dont want to talk about that DO YOU :-P :-P :-P :-P

You are Petrified to post your own pictures

That pretty much says it all

Why are you scared ? because it will prove your regimen doesnt work,

:rotfl:




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Cole Kutz

25.03.2011, 09:18

@ HanginInThere

As I predicted the coward is afraid to answer the question

» »
» »
» »
» »
» »
» »
» » what the hell are you two bitchin' about now???
»
» who the fk are you?
» 23 posts? LOL


Quit your bitching. You sound like an 8 year old girl. you little puss




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Manila(UwishUrHere),
25.03.2011, 09:43

@ Cole Kutz

As I predicted the coward is afraid to answer the question

» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » » what the hell are you two bitchin' about now???
» »
» » who the fk are you?
» » 23 posts? LOL
»
»
» Quit your bitching. You sound like an 8 year old girl. you little puss

fuk off you bald douche
nobody asked your opinion




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The Natural

25.03.2011, 19:15

@ HanginInThere

Fake

Jacob stated that the pictures you posted at Hairsite were of two different people.

And I believe him.

You are fake.




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Manila(UwishUrHere),
25.03.2011, 19:22

@ The Natural

Let us judge your great? pics hotshot

» Jacob stated that the pictures you posted at Hairsite were of two
» different people.
»
» And I believe him.
»
» You are fake.

Fake You say> ? oh wait that was Jacob that said that
YOU NEVER SAW THE PICS?

:clap:
:clap:

HERE IS A THOUGHT

WHY DONT YOU GET SOME BALLS AND POST SOME OF YOUR OWN

OH WAIT

WE WILL BE DEAD BEFORE THAT EVER HAPPENS





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The Natural

26.03.2011, 00:13

@ HanginInThere

FAKE

Jacob stated that the pictures you posted at Hairsite were of two different people. Here is the exchange:

HanginInThere: "I do not like my pics being up permanently online, Jacob got mad because he had not saved them yet, so he started making up all kinds of conspiracy fake pic stories."

Jacob: “Wrong. You took the pictures down because personal information was on the one. All of yours were not of the same person. THAT is why you took them down.”


Only "fake" people would try something like this :yes:.




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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
26.03.2011, 02:23

@ The Natural

If your regimen worked, you would gladly post your pics

Why is it that you WONT post your pics
The ONLY reason could be is that

YOU ARE A LIAR

Your regimen is FAKE

Your regimen does not work

You are nearly bald





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The Natural

26.03.2011, 03:47

@ HanginInThere

FAKE

Jacob stated that the pictures you posted at Hairsite were of two different people. Here is the exchange:

HanginInThere: "I do not like my pics being up permanently online, Jacob got mad because he had not saved them yet, so he started making up all kinds of conspiracy fake pic stories."

Jacob: “Wrong. You took the pictures down because personal information was on the one. All of yours were not of the same person. THAT is why you took them down.”


Only "fake" people would try something like this :yes:.




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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
26.03.2011, 05:16

@ The Natural

Mr no Guts, that is your new nickname

My pics are not the issue, at least I had BALLS to put up pics........something you need to go get some of.

I guess guts is something either you have it or you dont and you certainly DONT


:-P :-P :-P :-P
The more you cowardly avoid putting up your pics, the more foolish you look

please continue to avoid the question, and we will continue to laugh at you :waving: :clap: :clap:




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The Natural

26.03.2011, 05:59

@ HanginInThere

FAKE!

Jacob stated that the pictures you posted at Hairsite were of two different people. Here is the exchange:

HanginInThere: "I do not like my pics being up permanently online, Jacob got mad because he had not saved them yet, so he started making up all kinds of conspiracy fake pic stories."

Jacob: “Wrong. You took the pictures down because personal information was on the one. All of yours were not of the same person. THAT is why you took them down.”


Only "fake" people would try something like this :yes: .




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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
26.03.2011, 08:04

@ The Natural

Do you even have a regimen? apparently not

we are talking about YOUR regimen

Oh wait, we cant talk about that can we?

I thought you were saying your curry powder regimen saved your hair
my regimen is fake, my pics are fake, blah blah blah

are you that embarrassed by your lack of results you now only talk about Hangin?


Lol that basically sums it up





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Cole Kutz

29.03.2011, 07:25

@ HanginInThere

As I predicted the coward is afraid to answer the question

» » » »
» » » »
» » » »
» » » »
» » » »
» » » »
» » » » what the hell are you two bitchin' about now???
» » »
» » » who the fk are you?
» » » 23 posts? LOL
» »
» »
» » Quit your bitching. You sound like an 8 year old girl. you little puss
»
» fuk off you bald douche
» nobody asked your opinion


go suck your moms cock you wrinkled old turd burger




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Cole Kutz

17.05.2011, 16:44

@ HanginInThere

keto cream - hangin

:yes: :yes: » » Much appreciated Hangin
» »
» » I googled the product , but it returns result of either 7 keto or 7keto
» » DHEA
» »
» » are these the same or sth different ?
»
» never heard of either
»
» I just bought nizoral cream 2 percent



Choke on it, sh!tball...




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