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07.08.2007, 13:35
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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech. (Hair Transplant)

This is an interesting case. This fellow has had multiple surgeries since the 80's. He had 3 scalp reductions and 7 strip excisions. He came to us with an exhausted donor area. He only wants to fill in part of his crown. It will ultimately be his last surgery.

This type of hair restoration has two elements that may be controversial.

1. Use of beard hair. A type of BHT.
2. The manner in which we took the grafts... by FUT.

The patient was offered FUE, as this was probably what most ghost readers and posters will say that they would op for. However, the patient opted to take a thin strip underneath the chin.

The patient has had a beard for 25 years and he stated that he just would rather go this route. His long beard would mask the scar. He was fully aware of the unpredictability of BHT growth. However as I get pictures out one will be able to realize that these hairs look pretty damn good.

Lastly, Dr. Harris's resident training was in Ear, Nose, and Throat. He performed many of these types of surgeries to remove cancers, repair salivary ducts, adenoids, etc, etc.

The case is almost over and I will have a few of photos.

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therapy

07.08.2007, 13:55

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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech.

You sure he knew the difference between strip and fue? No person in his right mind would choose strip over fue for beard procedure.


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07.08.2007, 14:15

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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech.

I swear as God is my witness he knew fully what the differences in FUE/strip. He was a veteran HT guy. Dr. Harris doesn't pull the wool over guys eyes. Believe me I was wary about it too... and asked Dr. Harris what he thought about me putting this online and he said... "Engage in your discussions. It is what it is. And it is something worth discussing. As long as your readers know what the whole situation here was in this case. I don't see why it should not be something discussed."


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07.08.2007, 14:22
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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech.

Beard sliver.

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07.08.2007, 14:23
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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech.

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07.08.2007, 14:25

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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech.

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Mr. Frodo

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07.08.2007, 14:58

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Dr. Beehmar ??

Wasn't there a Dr. Beehmar (sp?) who did a bht using strip and it turned out disastrous ?


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07.08.2007, 15:05

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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech.

Not sure about Dr. Beehner. There are a select few doctors that have done this. I have this patients post op pics coming.


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07.08.2007, 15:32
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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech.

I have another BHT at the end of the month that I am following... Here are more pictures...

Post op first:

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07.08.2007, 15:44
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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech.

I started to place/plant and I noticed that his scalp was very firm/rigid. There was no "give" in his scalp which meant I had to employ a different method of placing. I learned this at Dr. Cooley's office. You have to use a needle to hold the graft in place then use the forceps to slide the graft into his new home. I use this method he taught me because when you have a situation like this, there is a risk of crushing of the bulbs. The needle/forcep method is a good tool to have.

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07.08.2007, 16:18

@ Mr. Frodo

Dr. Beehmar ??

» Wasn't there a Dr. Beehmar (sp?) who did a bht using strip and it turned
» out disastrous ?

Dr. Beehner did strip surgery on the beard area, I believe. If I were the patient, this approach would not be my choice at all.


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Denver, CO,
07.08.2007, 18:20

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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech.

HLC,

I probably would not have either and that is why this was controversial. WHat I did like was the grafts... the best BHT IMO in terms of robustness. However, I will follow this case and get a follow up in three months. I have more pictures... will be out in a bit.


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07.08.2007, 18:25

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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech.

Here are the stats of the case:

Start time: 9:00a
Stop time: 12:30p

Strip length: 14cm by 0.5cm

Total grafts: 606

1's= 591
2's= 15

Total hairs = 621


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MPB

08.08.2007, 08:06

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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech.

» I swear as God is my witness he knew fully what the differences in
» FUE/strip. He was a veteran HT guy. Dr. Harris doesn't pull the wool over
» guys eyes. Believe me I was wary about it too... and asked Dr. Harris what
» he thought about me putting this online and he said... "Engage in your
» discussions. It is what it is. And it is something worth discussing. As
» long as your readers know what the whole situation here was in this case.
» I don't see why it should not be something discussed."


Hairtech- Did he disclose his reason for opting for the strip in the beard area instead of FUE. What is the benefit? I mean why have a scar if you can achieve the same result without one?

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checkingin

08.08.2007, 08:08

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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech.

» Here are the stats of the case:
»
» Start time: 9:00a
» Stop time: 12:30p
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» Strip length: 14cm by 0.5cm
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» Total grafts: 606
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» 1's= 591
» 2's= 15
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» Total hairs = 621

As long as he knows what he is getting into I guess it is okay. I wouldn't do it because you are locking yourself (unnecessarily) into having to wear a beard for life.

I guess it could have some benefit as sort of a "double-chin tuck". :-D

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08.08.2007, 08:53

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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech.

»
» I guess it could have some benefit as sort of a "double-chin tuck". :-D

Well checkin yes it was like that... a chin tuck. Now he is coming in today... and I will get more pics of both the suture line and the beard.

I thank you fellas for looking at this objectively. It was difficult to understand why this guy DID not want to do FUE. I am as big of an FUE guy as some of you guys. ;-)


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08.08.2007, 13:08
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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech.

The patient came in for his first wash and post op instructions. The patient reported no discomfort overnight although he was given motrin(per his choice) and a sleeping pill. He reported this morning some tightness in his beard but no pain. He was happy. BTW he is an avid mountain climber. Has climbed to 22,000 feet twice in the Andes. Just thought it was cool to hear about his mountain escapades. He is 63 years old but looks 53. Anyway here are some post op pictures.

One more "BTW". Since he was a veteran HT guy, I asked him about where he started in terms of Norwood classification and how did the grafts do all of these years. He reported that he was a definite NW6. He said hairs taken from his lower donor area have thinned a bit over the years. I bring this up because those hairs he was talking about seem to be controversial in its use. This is because of potential hairloss from these hairs. Some doctors take as many nape hairs as possible... be wary folks.

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BostonBaldy

08.08.2007, 13:29
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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech.

Wow, really looks great. But I still think the guy is crazy... I'd never have a suture in that area, imho...

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ixan

08.08.2007, 13:53

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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech.

It looks painful. He will always have a scar and it's difficult to hide under the chin. Did he do it because it's less expensive than fue ?


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stitchmeup

08.08.2007, 15:51

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Hairtech how many grafts?

You never said how many grafts he had? IMO, it's not worth getting a strip if you have anything less than 2000 grafts. I can't wait to see what his chin looks like in a month.


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therapy

08.08.2007, 20:20

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Hairtech how many grafts?

» You never said how many grafts he had? IMO, it's not worth getting a strip
» if you have anything less than 2000 grafts. I can't wait to see what his
» chin looks like in a month.

me too. btw, did Dr. Harris do triclosure for the chin?


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Denver, CO,
08.08.2007, 23:01

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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech.

» It looks painful. He will always have a scar and it's difficult to hide
» under the chin. Did he do it because it's less expensive than fue ?

No he did it because he just wanted too. He knew his options. The guy was kind of monied... but he wanted it... He got 606 grafts... 15 2's and the rst 1's.


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09.08.2007, 04:11

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Dr. Harris... Beard Hair Intra-Op Today... Hairtech.

» » It looks painful. He will always have a scar and it's difficult to hide
» » under the chin. Did he do it because it's less expensive than fue ?
»
» No he did it because he just wanted too. He knew his options. The guy was
» kind of monied... but he wanted it... He got 606 grafts... 15 2's and the
» rst 1's.

I guess this guy does not want his beard to be thinned out. That would have been a well thought decision by him.

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09.08.2007, 08:10

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Let this be a lesson

This should be a lesson for all the young folks out there. This guy is 63 years old and still having restoration work. I've seen far too often in this and other forums 20-25 year olds saying that they wouldn't care about their hair when they got to be 40ish.

That is rubbish and this proves that point!

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09.08.2007, 09:57

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Let this be a lesson

» This should be a lesson for all the young folks out there. This guy is 63
» years old and still having restoration work. I've seen far too often in
» this and other forums 20-25 year olds saying that they wouldn't care about
» their hair when they got to be 40ish.
»
» That is rubbish and this proves that point!

And to add to that, he is fortunate to have what he has in terms of old techniques that have gone by thwayside. He did not get all scarred up on top. But he did have a thinned out donor area. Nevertheless, he is a happy guy.


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marco

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09.08.2007, 15:30

@ checkingin

Let this be a lesson

» This should be a lesson for all the young folks out there. This guy is 63
» years old and still having restoration work. I've seen far too often in
» this and other forums 20-25 year olds saying that they wouldn't care about
» their hair when they got to be 40ish.
»
» That is rubbish and this proves that point!

And I would add don't just take comfort in the idea that HM will address problems by then because I have heard from those deeply in the know that HM is at least 45 years away.:-) or maybe more.

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