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goata007

09.03.2009, 08:44

@ Sceptic
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ť ť It's like a car mechanic saying he doesn't understand what's wrong with
ť ť your car's engine, so he intends to build you a whole new engine because
ť he
ť ť thinks that will be easier than fixing it.
ť
ť easier said than done, don't you think ?

true, but it's not like they are having it any easier going the cloning route.

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Steve78

09.03.2009, 10:32

@ cal
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ť ť
ť ť I know that DNA is the same all over, I was talking about gene
ť expression,
ť ť signalling etc in balding vs non-balding follicles. The fact that to
ť this
ť ť day there is no clear cut answer to why follicles minitaurize means
ť that
ť ť most of the scientists working on a cure are basically going the
ť band-aid
ť ť route - instead of actually understanding the problem at the root
ť level.
ť
ť I totally agree. It's infuriating.
ť
ť The net total amount of money & effort & time dumped into these millions
ť of pathetic MPB products would have probably cracked this sh*t a long time
ť ago. But no, it's all one operation after another doing the same things to
ť get a product onto the market before their shareholders pull the plug on
ť their funding.
ť
ť
ť
ť It's crazy.
ť
ť The military could never have invented the Atomic bomb like this. It's
ť like splitting up all the scientists involved in the Manhattan Project into
ť dozens of teams each operating independently, assigning each team one
ť single type of explosive to mess with, and then hoping that one of these
ť teams will make a nuclear explosion work out of it.

I couldn't have said this better myself.

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hairman2

09.03.2009, 12:20

@ Steve78
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seriously guys.. do you really think understanding gene expression and cell signaling is an easy task??I take it you are all aware of how many unidentified genes we have found but have no understanding of whatsoever?? it's easy to moan and bitch but understanding the mystery of the human DNA is with todays understanding a ridiculously difficult task and in no way compares to the development of the atomic bomb.

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ipod

09.03.2009, 12:27

@ hairman2
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ť seriously guys.. do you really think understanding gene expression and cell
ť signaling is an easy task??I take it you are all aware of how many
ť unidentified genes we have found but have no understanding of whatsoever??
ť it's easy to moan and bitch but understanding the mystery of the human DNA
ť is with todays understanding a ridiculously difficult task and in no way
ť compares to the development of the atomic bomb.

Obaman just announced that he will lift the ban on stem cells research, hopefully this is the beginning of many many new scientific discoveries including a cure for baldness.

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harm2

09.03.2009, 13:53

@ goata007
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ť ť My friend, do you have any scientific proof for this fact, or is it just
ť ť something that you know it true?
ť
ť The whole point of this thread is to show scientific evidence that
ť minitaurized follicles are still capable of growing thick hairs. The first
ť post is the proof! not only that, I've also told you about my very own case
ť i.e. dense vellus hair all over NW1 area.
ť
ť ť And if this is a reality, what about my idea of extracting all the
ť ť follicles of a bald man and transplanting them in a immunesupprasnt
ť mouse,
ť ť letting them grow, and putting them back in the bald man's head?
ť
ť The problem is that those follicles would have mouse blood etc in them,
ť you can't just stick it back into a human head.

"Human hair follicles were grafted onto 2 strains of immunodeficient mice to compare the regeneration potential of vellus (miniaturized, balding)"

This is not proof that a balled man has on he's head 100000 follicles, that when grafted to a immunodeficient mouse will grow back. This is only proof that hair in the balding process, can be saved, buy ceasing the immune response.

You guys say that even when a man is NW7 He still has a head full of small hairs, that are just waiting to be saved from the clinging hands of the immune system.

I actually believe you, but I'm looking for proof, since this could have very interesting ramifications.

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Sceptic

09.03.2009, 14:39

@ ipod
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ť Obaman just announced ... including a cure for baldness.

did he mentioned the five years recurrent assertion ? If not, I don't believe anything.

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damraak

09.03.2009, 14:41

@ harm2
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ť You guys say that even when a man is NW7 He still has a head full of
ť small hairs, that are just waiting to be saved from the clinging hands of
ť the immune system.
ť
ť I actually believe you, but I'm looking for proof, since this could have
ť very interesting ramifications.

If that is true, it can be easily proven by putting a bald head under microscope or some magnification device to see if the 100000 follicles are there, I think some are in reality miniaturised but not all 100000 follicles, at most 40% I bet.

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damraak

09.03.2009, 14:44

@ Sceptic
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I read about that too but it still sounds far away

WASHINGTON (Reuters) U.S. President Barack Obama will soon issue an executive order lifting an eight-year ban embryonic stem cell research imposed by his predecessor, President George W. Bush, a senior adviser said on Sunday.

"We're going to be doing something on that soon, I think. The president is considering that right now," Obama adviser David Axelrod said on "Fox News Sunday."

In 2001, Bush limited federal funding for stem cell research only to human embryonic stem cell lines that already existed. It was a gesture to his conservative Christian supporters who regard embryonic stem cell research as destroying potential life, because the cells must be extracted from human embryos.

Embryonic stem cells are the most basic human cells which can develop into any type of cell in the body.

Scientists believe the research could eventually produce cures for a variety of diseases, including Parkinson's disease, diabetes, heart disease and spinal cord injuries.

Obama vowed to reverse Bush's ban during his presidential campaign and in his inaugural address last month promised to return science to its proper place in the United States.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration last month cleared the way for the first trial to see if human embryonic stem cells could treat people safely.

The trial will try to use stem cells from already existing lines to regrow nerve tissue in patients with crushed spinal cords.

Stem cells are the body's master cells, giving rise to all the tissues, organs and blood. Embryonic stem cells are considered the most powerful kinds of stem cells, as they have the potential to give rise to any type of tissue.

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mj2003

Toronto,
09.03.2009, 16:47

@ damraak
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Regardless of when he does it, President Obama will lift the ban on the ebryonic stem cell research in this term. He mentioned it during his run for Presidency, and he mentioned it just now.

ť I read about that too but it still sounds far away
ť
ť WASHINGTON (Reuters) U.S. President Barack Obama will soon issue an
ť executive order lifting an eight-year ban embryonic stem cell research
ť imposed by his predecessor, President George W. Bush, a senior adviser said
ť on Sunday.
ť
ť "We're going to be doing something on that soon, I think. The president is
ť considering that right now," Obama adviser David Axelrod said on "Fox News
ť Sunday."
ť
ť In 2001, Bush limited federal funding for stem cell research only to human
ť embryonic stem cell lines that already existed. It was a gesture to his
ť conservative Christian supporters who regard embryonic stem cell research
ť as destroying potential life, because the cells must be extracted from
ť human embryos.
ť
ť Embryonic stem cells are the most basic human cells which can develop into
ť any type of cell in the body.
ť
ť Scientists believe the research could eventually produce cures for a
ť variety of diseases, including Parkinson's disease, diabetes, heart disease
ť and spinal cord injuries.
ť
ť Obama vowed to reverse Bush's ban during his presidential campaign and in
ť his inaugural address last month promised to return science to its proper
ť place in the United States.
ť
ť The U.S. Food and Drug Administration last month cleared the way for the
ť first trial to see if human embryonic stem cells could treat people
ť safely.
ť
ť The trial will try to use stem cells from already existing lines to regrow
ť nerve tissue in patients with crushed spinal cords.
ť
ť Stem cells are the body's master cells, giving rise to all the tissues,
ť organs and blood. Embryonic stem cells are considered the most powerful
ť kinds of stem cells, as they have the potential to give rise to any type of
ť tissue.

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cal

09.03.2009, 22:29

@ mj2003
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it's easy to moan and bitch but understanding the mystery of the human DNA is with todays understanding a ridiculously difficult task and in no way compares to the development of the atomic bomb

You say that as if the Manhattan project was easy or something.

I don't expect science to whip MPB with a little gene-cracking as soon as some govt bans are lifted. (I don't even expect a genetically-enacted solution to MPB at all for decades, to be honest.) I'd be the first to agree that genetic work is extremely difficult & early right now. And that the various genes are MUCH too inter-related to just automatically assume that it's even possible come up with a generalized procedure to accomplish what we want in every bald man.

But IMHO the net total effort that has gone into MPB in the last 50 years could have cracked it years ago if it had been a coordinated & collaborative effort. By "cracked it" I just mean coming up with a viable realistic treatment option for us. Something that's not limited by supply of hair, a crazy lack of affordability, or sexual side effects.

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harm2

10.03.2009, 17:44

@ harm2
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ť ť ť My friend, do you have any scientific proof for this fact, or is it
ť just
ť ť ť something that you know it true?
ť ť
ť ť The whole point of this thread is to show scientific evidence that
ť ť minitaurized follicles are still capable of growing thick hairs. The
ť first
ť ť post is the proof! not only that, I've also told you about my very own
ť case
ť ť i.e. dense vellus hair all over NW1 area.
ť ť
ť ť ť And if this is a reality, what about my idea of extracting all the
ť ť ť follicles of a bald man and transplanting them in a immunesupprasnt
ť ť mouse,
ť ť ť letting them grow, and putting them back in the bald man's head?
ť ť
ť ť The problem is that those follicles would have mouse blood etc in them,
ť ť you can't just stick it back into a human head.
ť
ť
ť "Human hair follicles were grafted onto 2 strains of immunodeficient mice
ť to compare the regeneration potential of vellus (miniaturized, balding)"
ť
ť This is not proof that a balled man has on he's head 100000 follicles,
ť that when grafted to a immunodeficient mouse will grow back. This is only
ť proof that hair in the balding process, can be saved, buy ceasing the
ť immune response.
ť
ť You guys say that even when a man is NW7 He still has a head full of
ť small hairs, that are just waiting to be saved from the clinging hands of
ť the immune system.
ť
ť I actually believe you, but I'm looking for proof, since this could have
ť very interesting ramifications.

goata007, cal ??

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goata007

10.03.2009, 20:07

@ harm2
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ť goata007, cal ??

What exactly do you mean by proof? I have told you my own story, and then there is the scientific study. Human body is covered with follicles...have you noticed how some girls are naturally hairless? if you look at their skin very closely you'll see very tiny hair all over their body, even all over their breasts! The problem with MPB is that first hairs minitaurize to vellus hairs, however, after sometime even those follicles sccumbs to fibrosis & sun damage and stops producing visible hair altogther. It still is there in your scalp ready to make hair, it just needs the right environment.

Btw, My scalp looks like a typical bald guy's scalp...looks tight & very shiny. But like I said earlier, I still have vellus hair all over my NW1 area. if only those can be rejuvenated I'll pretty much have all my hair back, literally! To keep them in the best shape, I use a baby shampoo and avoid sun exposure altogether. I'm also planning on doing salicylic acid peel (just waiting for holidays), and regularly using HairSignals. On top of that, Histogen ReGenica and A&G Hair Complex will be coming out in few weeks, I'll get on that as well. At minimum these products will keep the scalp healthy & may even result in regrowth.

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goata007 09.03.2009, 08:44 @ Sceptic	Vellus hairs and Donora area hairs equal when transplanted to mice Post reply
	ť ť It's like a car mechanic saying he doesn't understand what's wrong with ť ť your car's engine, so he intends to build you a whole new engine because ť he ť ť thinks that will be easier than fixing it. ť ť easier said than done, don't you think ? true, but it's not like they are having it any easier going the cloning route. goata007 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- "If we knew what it was that we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein
Steve78 09.03.2009, 10:32 @ cal	Vellus hairs and Donora area hairs equal when transplanted to mice Post reply
	ť ť ť ť I know that DNA is the same all over, I was talking about gene ť expression, ť ť signalling etc in balding vs non-balding follicles. The fact that to ť this ť ť day there is no clear cut answer to why follicles minitaurize means ť that ť ť most of the scientists working on a cure are basically going the ť band-aid ť ť route - instead of actually understanding the problem at the root ť level. ť ť I totally agree. It's infuriating. ť ť The net total amount of money & effort & time dumped into these millions ť of pathetic MPB products would have probably cracked this sht a long time ť ago. But no, it's all one operation after another doing the same things to ť get a product onto the market before their shareholders pull the plug on ť their funding. ť ť ť ť It's crazy. ť ť The military could never have invented the Atomic bomb like this. It's ť like splitting up all the scientists involved in the Manhattan Project into ť dozens of teams each operating independently, assigning each team one ť single type of explosive to mess with, and then hoping that one of these ť teams will make a nuclear explosion work out of it. I couldn't have said this better myself. Steve78 is located in [NA]* and he is available to meet: NO
hairman2 09.03.2009, 12:20 @ Steve78	Vellus hairs and Donora area hairs equal when transplanted to mice Post reply
	seriously guys.. do you really think understanding gene expression and cell signaling is an easy task??I take it you are all aware of how many unidentified genes we have found but have no understanding of whatsoever?? it's easy to moan and bitch but understanding the mystery of the human DNA is with todays understanding a ridiculously difficult task and in no way compares to the development of the atomic bomb. hairman2 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
ipod 09.03.2009, 12:27 @ hairman2	Obama to lift ban on stem cells research Post reply
	ť seriously guys.. do you really think understanding gene expression and cell ť signaling is an easy task??I take it you are all aware of how many ť unidentified genes we have found but have no understanding of whatsoever?? ť it's easy to moan and bitch but understanding the mystery of the human DNA ť is with todays understanding a ridiculously difficult task and in no way ť compares to the development of the atomic bomb. Obaman just announced that he will lift the ban on stem cells research, hopefully this is the beginning of many many new scientific discoveries including a cure for baldness. ipod is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- NW3 - Propecia /Saw Palmetto Topical Spiro / Rogaine Foam (quit REMOX IV) High does vitamin C / Lysine / Nizoral / Tea Tree Oil Shampoo
harm2 09.03.2009, 13:53 @ goata007	Vellus hairs and Donora area hairs equal when transplanted to mice Post reply
	ť ť My friend, do you have any scientific proof for this fact, or is it just ť ť something that you know it true? ť ť The whole point of this thread is to show scientific evidence that ť minitaurized follicles are still capable of growing thick hairs. The first ť post is the proof! not only that, I've also told you about my very own case ť i.e. dense vellus hair all over NW1 area. ť ť ť And if this is a reality, what about my idea of extracting all the ť ť follicles of a bald man and transplanting them in a immunesupprasnt ť mouse, ť ť letting them grow, and putting them back in the bald man's head? ť ť The problem is that those follicles would have mouse blood etc in them, ť you can't just stick it back into a human head. "Human hair follicles were grafted onto 2 strains of immunodeficient mice to compare the regeneration potential of vellus (miniaturized, balding)" This is not proof that a balled man has on he's head 100000 follicles, that when grafted to a immunodeficient mouse will grow back. This is only proof that hair in the balding process, can be saved, buy ceasing the immune response. You guys say that even when a man is NW7 He still has a head full of small hairs, that are just waiting to be saved from the clinging hands of the immune system. I actually believe you, but I'm looking for proof, since this could have very interesting ramifications. harm2 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
Sceptic 09.03.2009, 14:39 @ ipod	Obama to lift ban on stem cells research Post reply
	ť Obaman just announced ... including a cure for baldness. did he mentioned the five years recurrent assertion ? If not, I don't believe anything. Sceptic is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
damraak 09.03.2009, 14:41 @ harm2	Vellus hairs and Donora area hairs equal when transplanted to mice Post reply
	ť You guys say that even when a man is NW7 He still has a head full of ť small hairs, that are just waiting to be saved from the clinging hands of ť the immune system. ť ť I actually believe you, but I'm looking for proof, since this could have ť very interesting ramifications. If that is true, it can be easily proven by putting a bald head under microscope or some magnification device to see if the 100000 follicles are there, I think some are in reality miniaturised but not all 100000 follicles, at most 40% I bet. damraak is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
damraak 09.03.2009, 14:44 @ Sceptic	Obama to lift ban on stem cells research Post reply
	I read about that too but it still sounds far away WASHINGTON (Reuters) U.S. President Barack Obama will soon issue an executive order lifting an eight-year ban embryonic stem cell research imposed by his predecessor, President George W. Bush, a senior adviser said on Sunday. "We're going to be doing something on that soon, I think. The president is considering that right now," Obama adviser David Axelrod said on "Fox News Sunday." In 2001, Bush limited federal funding for stem cell research only to human embryonic stem cell lines that already existed. It was a gesture to his conservative Christian supporters who regard embryonic stem cell research as destroying potential life, because the cells must be extracted from human embryos. Embryonic stem cells are the most basic human cells which can develop into any type of cell in the body. Scientists believe the research could eventually produce cures for a variety of diseases, including Parkinson's disease, diabetes, heart disease and spinal cord injuries. Obama vowed to reverse Bush's ban during his presidential campaign and in his inaugural address last month promised to return science to its proper place in the United States. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration last month cleared the way for the first trial to see if human embryonic stem cells could treat people safely. The trial will try to use stem cells from already existing lines to regrow nerve tissue in patients with crushed spinal cords. Stem cells are the body's master cells, giving rise to all the tissues, organs and blood. Embryonic stem cells are considered the most powerful kinds of stem cells, as they have the potential to give rise to any type of tissue. damraak is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
mj2003 Toronto, 09.03.2009, 16:47 @ damraak	Obama to lift ban on stem cells research Post reply
	Regardless of when he does it, President Obama will lift the ban on the ebryonic stem cell research in this term. He mentioned it during his run for Presidency, and he mentioned it just now. ť I read about that too but it still sounds far away ť ť WASHINGTON (Reuters) U.S. President Barack Obama will soon issue an ť executive order lifting an eight-year ban embryonic stem cell research ť imposed by his predecessor, President George W. Bush, a senior adviser said ť on Sunday. ť ť "We're going to be doing something on that soon, I think. The president is ť considering that right now," Obama adviser David Axelrod said on "Fox News ť Sunday." ť ť In 2001, Bush limited federal funding for stem cell research only to human ť embryonic stem cell lines that already existed. It was a gesture to his ť conservative Christian supporters who regard embryonic stem cell research ť as destroying potential life, because the cells must be extracted from ť human embryos. ť ť Embryonic stem cells are the most basic human cells which can develop into ť any type of cell in the body. ť ť Scientists believe the research could eventually produce cures for a ť variety of diseases, including Parkinson's disease, diabetes, heart disease ť and spinal cord injuries. ť ť Obama vowed to reverse Bush's ban during his presidential campaign and in ť his inaugural address last month promised to return science to its proper ť place in the United States. ť ť The U.S. Food and Drug Administration last month cleared the way for the ť first trial to see if human embryonic stem cells could treat people ť safely. ť ť The trial will try to use stem cells from already existing lines to regrow ť nerve tissue in patients with crushed spinal cords. ť ť Stem cells are the body's master cells, giving rise to all the tissues, ť organs and blood. Embryonic stem cells are considered the most powerful ť kinds of stem cells, as they have the potential to give rise to any type of ť tissue. mj2003 is located in TORONTO and he is available to meet: YES email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting. --- Dut 0.5mg daily Nizoral 2% 2x-3x/wk Reg. Shampoo Mornings
cal 09.03.2009, 22:29 @ mj2003	Obama to lift ban on stem cells research Post reply
	it's easy to moan and bitch but understanding the mystery of the human DNA is with todays understanding a ridiculously difficult task and in no way compares to the development of the atomic bomb You say that as if the Manhattan project was easy or something. I don't expect science to whip MPB with a little gene-cracking as soon as some govt bans are lifted. (I don't even expect a genetically-enacted solution to MPB at all for decades, to be honest.) I'd be the first to agree that genetic work is extremely difficult & early right now. And that the various genes are MUCH too inter-related to just automatically assume that it's even possible come up with a generalized procedure to accomplish what we want in every bald man. But IMHO the net total effort that has gone into MPB in the last 50 years could have cracked it years ago if it had been a coordinated & collaborative effort. By "cracked it" I just mean coming up with a viable realistic treatment option for us. Something that's not limited by supply of hair, a crazy lack of affordability, or sexual side effects. cal is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
harm2 10.03.2009, 17:44 @ harm2	Vellus hairs and Donora area hairs equal when transplanted to mice Post reply
	ť ť ť My friend, do you have any scientific proof for this fact, or is it ť just ť ť ť something that you know it true? ť ť ť ť The whole point of this thread is to show scientific evidence that ť ť minitaurized follicles are still capable of growing thick hairs. The ť first ť ť post is the proof! not only that, I've also told you about my very own ť case ť ť i.e. dense vellus hair all over NW1 area. ť ť ť ť ť And if this is a reality, what about my idea of extracting all the ť ť ť follicles of a bald man and transplanting them in a immunesupprasnt ť ť mouse, ť ť ť letting them grow, and putting them back in the bald man's head? ť ť ť ť The problem is that those follicles would have mouse blood etc in them, ť ť you can't just stick it back into a human head. ť ť ť "Human hair follicles were grafted onto 2 strains of immunodeficient mice ť to compare the regeneration potential of vellus (miniaturized, balding)" ť ť This is not proof that a balled man has on he's head 100000 follicles, ť that when grafted to a immunodeficient mouse will grow back. This is only ť proof that hair in the balding process, can be saved, buy ceasing the ť immune response. ť ť You guys say that even when a man is NW7 He still has a head full of ť small hairs, that are just waiting to be saved from the clinging hands of ť the immune system. ť ť I actually believe you, but I'm looking for proof, since this could have ť very interesting ramifications. goata007, cal ?? harm2 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
goata007 10.03.2009, 20:07 @ harm2	Vellus hairs and Donora area hairs equal when transplanted to mice Post reply
	ť goata007, cal ?? What exactly do you mean by proof? I have told you my own story, and then there is the scientific study. Human body is covered with follicles...have you noticed how some girls are naturally hairless? if you look at their skin very closely you'll see very tiny hair all over their body, even all over their breasts! The problem with MPB is that first hairs minitaurize to vellus hairs, however, after sometime even those follicles sccumbs to fibrosis & sun damage and stops producing visible hair altogther. It still is there in your scalp ready to make hair, it just needs the right environment. Btw, My scalp looks like a typical bald guy's scalp...looks tight & very shiny. But like I said earlier, I still have vellus hair all over my NW1 area. if only those can be rejuvenated I'll pretty much have all my hair back, literally! To keep them in the best shape, I use a baby shampoo and avoid sun exposure altogether. I'm also planning on doing salicylic acid peel (just waiting for holidays), and regularly using HairSignals. On top of that, Histogen ReGenica and A&G Hair Complex will be coming out in few weeks, I'll get on that as well. At minimum these products will keep the scalp healthy & may even result in regrowth. goata007 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- "If we knew what it was that we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein