Hair Loss Forum

moawk Germany, 07.07.2012, 03:11 (edited by moawk, 07.07.2012, 03:38)	Team Tokyo - Website and Details (Hair Regrowth Research & Clinical Trials)
	http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html I don't know how long this will take but It will be the real and only HM technique worth our time in our lifetimes that will surpass the ones we currently have which most likely will not do anything for those thinned out advanced horsehoes, which apparently will be me as well in 10-15 years. This is our hope: The organ germ method, that we previously developed could autonomously regenerate fully functional hair follicle and tooth from the fetal germ cells. We developed the organ germ method to apply the technology to adult cells in order to regenerate hair follicles that are normally connected to the dermal epidermal layer and other tissues. This technology, a major breakthrough in the practical use of hair regenerative therapy, enables the reproductive hair follicle to connect adequately to the surrounding tissues and to be reproduced functionally. In the future, we will contribute to hair regenerative therapy via transplantation therapy through the reproduction of hair follicle germ with autologous stem cells. Print his picture and put in your ceiling so you can sleep at night. Ah, I forgot! Those who've been in Japan, you probably know this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpXCUqZoQqU moawk is located in GERMANY and he is available to meet: NO --- 1. Predicted the failure of replicel, months in advance. 2. Predicted how their stock would rise/drop even with exact numbers. 3. Predicted the wild claims and crazyness that gc83uk's donor regeneration will cause among the HT industry during this summer. Including rassman's opinion, Dr. Woods special patients and Pro hair clinic photos. 4. Predicted Gho will open up a clinic in asia. 5. No prediction on Histogen. Looks promising if they didn't fake results. 6. Predicted the only viable HM technique other than Gho would surface when hairs are: "generated through the appropriate cell populations" -Team Tokyo 2012 - Moawk Advice for patients: If you are considering a hair transplant, only consider Gho's HST and nothing else. First HT treatment in the world that offers: zero scarring, small downtime and donor regrowth. http://www.hasci.com Advice for Investors in HM: Invest in Team Tokyo. http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html Ditch replicel, aderans. They are done for and have no future. Post reply
Hashtags 07.07.2012, 03:28 @ moawk	Team Tokyo - Website and Details
	Agree, until then i say stick with Gho and you are good forever afterwards. Is this a correct assumption? Anyway for team Japan best regards : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpBD4ThRa2U Hashtags is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
Baldiskindacool 07.07.2012, 06:16 @ moawk	Team Tokyo - Website and Details
	I think ANY assumption in 15 years, nowadays, is BULLS41T! On any field: computers, astrophysics, arts, lifestyle and most definitely medicine. It doesn't mean anything: if the tech is there and all that is required is trials, then the 5 year window we are always give is the appropriate one. If the tech is not there, than any assumption is optimistic, it can be 1, 10, 50 years before this works, or never. in 10 years we'll have quantum computers. Why? it could be 20, or 5 you never know what comes next and a window this huge for medicine is plain BS, it's like saying there will be a cure for cancer in 10-15 years. It's just a possibility. So in the case of Team Tokio, which in my humble opinion has a great tech worht billions in their hands, why the hell should it take 10-15 years and not 5-6? What's the reasoning behind that lenght of time? either their tech works (which it does) or doesn't. Since it does work, they just need human trials and they're ready to go. It will take 10-15 years only if human trials fail. I'm venting because I'm bothered by sloppiness and either these guys start pushing this research or somebody else should steal it and beat them to the punch (which is not 15 years away). Baldiskindacool is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
Baldiskindacool 07.07.2012, 06:19 @ Baldiskindacool	Team Tokyo - Website and Details
	Ah Moawk, great find for the links etc. I don't wanna turn into the JarJar of Team Tokyo but we should contact them and tell them to move the hell on. Baldiskindacool is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
hairman2 07.07.2012, 06:31 @ Baldiskindacool	Team Tokyo - Website and Details
	» in 10 years we'll have quantum computers. bullsh*t.. » So in the case of Team Tokio, which in my humble opinion has a great tech » worht billions in their hands, why the hell should it take 10-15 years and » not 5-6? » What's the reasoning behind that lenght of time? either their tech works » (which it does) or doesn't. Since it does work, they just need human trials » and they're ready to go. The world is not as simplistic as you make it out to be. There are different degrees of "it works or it doesnt". For example in a investigative research environment scientists can go through insurmountable efforts and costs to provide a proof concept. perhaps it is very labor intensive or has a very low yield or requires highly expensive or toxic substances which are can not be used in mass production. Or it may be okay for research in a clinical environment, but has huge safety issues which rule out actual deployment in human subjects. It could be decades until a proof of concept becomes feasible and marketable product. Everyone here wants to believe the cure is around the corner, but it is important not to deceive yourself with wishful thinking. hairman2 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
Baldiskindacool 07.07.2012, 06:54 @ hairman2	Team Tokyo - Website and Details
	» » in 10 years we'll have quantum computers. » » bullsh*t.. » » » So in the case of Team Tokio, which in my humble opinion has a great » tech » » worht billions in their hands, why the hell should it take 10-15 years » and » » not 5-6? » » What's the reasoning behind that lenght of time? either their tech works » » (which it does) or doesn't. Since it does work, they just need human » trials » » and they're ready to go. » » The world is not as simplistic as you make it out to be. There are » different degrees of "it works or it doesnt". For example in a » investigative research environment scientists can go through insurmountable » efforts and costs to provide a proof concept. perhaps it is very labor » intensive or has a very low yield or requires highly expensive or toxic » substances which are can not be used in mass production. Or it may be okay » for research in a clinical environment, but has huge safety issues which » rule out actual deployment in human subjects. It could be decades until a » proof of concept becomes feasible and marketable product. Everyone here » wants to believe the cure is around the corner, but it is important not to » deceive yourself with wishful thinking. Can you even read? I put the quantum computer as an example of BS, so you're just saying it again. And your complicated view of Team Tokio research is BS as well: they are not doing anything of what you exemplified. It's not a procedure that labor intensive; there's no toxic or exensive stuff involved; there are no safety issues. Also, all these issues you raised have nothing to do with research and knowledge, everything to do with money. And lastly, IF there is any health issue with their procedure, that's what the trials are for, and again, if it's unsafe then it doesn't work, hence the 15 years (meaning: it's not THIS procedure that we need, but a better version of it). Otherwise everything works in this world, even intercitex: they have something that doesn't regrow crap, but hey, put in more money and 15/20 years of research and there you have it! something might happen! If instead what they have done on the mouse is what we need, than it takes no more than 5 years to hit the markets, no other way around it. Baldiskindacool is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
hairman2 07.07.2012, 07:00 @ Baldiskindacool	Team Tokyo - Website and Details
	» And your complicated view of Team Tokio research is BS as well: they are » not doing anything of what you exemplified. It's not a procedure that labor » intensive; there's no toxic or exensive stuff involved; there are no safety » issues. lol.. i had no idea you are so deeply involved in the process... good thing we have an expert like yourself on the topic » And lastly, IF there is any health issue with their procedure, that's what » the trials are for, and again, if it's unsafe then it doesn't work, hence » the 15 years (meaning: it's not THIS procedure that we need, but a better » version of it). there may be OBVIOUS reasons for potential health concerns so that the procedure would not even be accepted for entry into clinical trails. You dont just propose injecting people with random stuff and then assess within the clinical trail whether it is safe or not.. there is alot of assessment beforehand. In other words it can take years. hairman2 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
Hashtags 07.07.2012, 07:23 @ hairman2	Team Tokyo - Website and Details
	in this case there are no halth concearns at all. Well my experience with japanese inventions or technologies is that they are aiming for a fast market entry. Their social culturel background differs highly from those of western researchers. Western researchers like the idea " Hmmm lets inject something in the head and its ok" While asian researchers go the Gundam Way and try to really get a hand on the FUTURE and this is hands down the creation of cycling hair follicles. So far they created what people need (a follicle which can cycle and doesnt differ from a normal native hair) what they need to do now is to make this an acceptable mass market procedure and this can be tough. Think of it as a mathematical equasion. You have the value 10 which is the result, but now you need the correct was to achieve or support this value. So what is the correct way? Is it 12 - 2 9 +1 100:10 Thats their current problem. In my opinion, this kind of approach (creating follicles from scratch rather then try to keep your native ones on life support) is the way to go, hands down. And if you read this paper carefully you could also read what is needed for this. Its also surgeons who know their stuff. I think that Gho will be one of the first ones to work with them, maybe Cole also. In addition, you can tell that those reasearchers know their stuff because they categorized hair follicles in the correct area " organs". And it is of course possible to clone healthy follicles by the 1000. You can clone almost everything except such complex things like your brain. As an example, a follicle consistes of different departments, where the visible hair is just a garbage biproduct. And those different compartments can be cloned or multiplied individually and also in combination. What Gho is doing right now is the lets be careful here "Predecessor" of what will be the future (Team Tokyo) Can somebody tell me if my assumptions are correct Hashtags is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
Baldiskindacool 07.07.2012, 07:23 @ hairman2	Team Tokyo - Website and Details
	» there may be OBVIOUS reasons for potential health concerns so that the » procedure would not even be accepted for entry into clinical trails. You » dont just propose injecting people with random stuff and then assess within » the clinical trail whether it is safe or not.. there is alot of assessment » beforehand. In other words it can take years. I doubt anybody there is injecting people with random stuff, actually reading what it says on the website it's just autologous stem cells. Nothing dangerous by any means, either it grows or it dies. It sounds safer than histogen or finasteride, and it's definitelly safer than chopping your head and then transplanting your own hair to another location like Frankenstein. However, you want to take it negatively it seems, I'm just trying to be pro-active and even if you are right, and Team Tokio has nothing safe, the sooner we know it, the better it is, I hate long promises but false promises are even worse. Baldiskindacool is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
Hashtags 07.07.2012, 09:31 @ Baldiskindacool	Team Tokyo - Website and Details
	In this case i am not negative because it seems that they reallydid their homework, they didnt wasted time with " Hey lets see if we can do it" nope they skipped this part to get to the crucial point, the hair cycling. And this seems to work. I am more negative about Replicel in which i dont have any hopes at all Hashtags is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
Hanibal 07.07.2012, 16:43 @ moawk	Team Tokyo - Website and Details
	Transplantation therapy is never going to be a solution to hair regeneration because of one obvious reason. It will never be able to place follicles close enough to create required minimum of 80 hairs per square centimetre. Anything less than that will appear as thinning. I mean, you can place them close enough but they won’t yield 80 per sq/cm. No hair transplant can achieve that to date. It appears that artificially you can not make follicles develop and grow in such proximity. So even if you have reserves to cover all your head and azz, you won’t achieve density. It will look like individual hairs but not even a lock. So as with regards to that picture, you can stick it in your azz for a night. But thanks for info. As the article says, it’s promising for teeth regeneration where density is not prime task. Unless they can revolutionize hair implanting method to achieve density, it won’t do any good for us. Hanibal is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
Hashtags 07.07.2012, 16:49 @ Hanibal	Team Tokyo - Website and Details
	» Transplantation therapy is never going to be a solution to hair » regeneration because of one obvious reason. It will never be able to place » follicles close enough to create required minimum of 80 hairs per square » centimetre. Anything less than that will appear as thinning. I mean, you » can place them close enough but they won’t yield 80 per sq/cm. No hair » transplant can achieve that to date. It appears that artificially you can » not make follicles develop and grow in such proximity. So even if you have » reserves to cover all your head and azz, you won’t achieve density. It will » look like individual hairs but not even a lock. So as with regards to that » picture, you can stick it in your azz for a night. But thanks for info. As » the article says, it’s promising for teeth regeneration where density is » not prime task. Unless they can revolutionize hair implanting method to » achieve density, it won’t do any good for us. Are you by any chance a moron? You dont even need 80 Grafts to appear full. Some people dont have 80 Grafts per cm from a nature stand point. And i bet you would suck di``s as a NW6 who can have an overall density of 50 Grafts. you would go down on your knees and suck them so hard your mouth would get dry. So next time if you feel to post stupid nonsense stuff, try to go to 4chan or something else you ungrateful bastard Hashtags is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
Hanibal 07.07.2012, 17:22 @ Hashtags	Team Tokyo - Website and Details
	Are you a hair transplant doc or a aboriginal? Because only they bark out that 35 hair per sq is enough to create density. If you’re not aboriginal, you should recognize letters. look at 6th class anatomy book which says, average human hair density is 80 hairs per sq/cm. And that is only average! You’re either hair transplant campaign victim or aboriginal, honestly. Hanibal is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
Hashtags 07.07.2012, 17:40 @ Hanibal	Team Tokyo - Website and Details
	» Are you a hair transplant doc or a aboriginal? Because only they bark out » that 35 hair per sq is enough to create density. If you’re not aboriginal, » you should recognize letters. look at 6th class anatomy book which says, » average human hair density is 80 hairs per sq/cm. And that is only average! » You’re either hair transplant campaign victim or aboriginal, honestly. Aboriginals are smart people. The only thing of 80 is your IQ and thats it. Oh btw Gho can do 100 Grafts per sq Hashtags is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
moawk Germany, 07.07.2012, 17:46 @ Hanibal	Team Tokyo - Website and Details
	» Transplantation therapy is never going to be a solution to hair » regeneration because of one obvious reason. It will never be able to place » follicles close enough to create required minimum of 80 hairs per square » centimetre. Anything less than that will appear as thinning. I mean, you » can place them close enough but they won’t yield 80 per sq/cm. No hair » transplant can achieve that to date. It appears that artificially you can » not make follicles develop and grow in such proximity. So even if you have » reserves to cover all your head and azz, you won’t achieve density. It will » look like individual hairs but not even a lock. So as with regards to that » picture, you can stick it in your azz for a night. But thanks for info. As » the article says, it’s promising for teeth regeneration where density is » not prime task. Unless they can revolutionize hair implanting method to » achieve density, it won’t do any good for us. It can be done now. Research a bit more. Making a new discovery doesn't mean the one who did knows EVERYTHING and what is currently being developed and available. The problem with ignorant fools who are not involved in the world of science assume these scientists and researchers are gods and know it all from a to z, they only know pretty much their research and it's obviously not transplantation. That picture is not a random picture, it's the professor in charge of the research. Show some respect, ignorant fool. Go back to your snake oil injection thread, leave this thread for people who know a bit more than snake oils. moawk is located in GERMANY and he is available to meet: NO --- 1. Predicted the failure of replicel, months in advance. 2. Predicted how their stock would rise/drop even with exact numbers. 3. Predicted the wild claims and crazyness that gc83uk's donor regeneration will cause among the HT industry during this summer. Including rassman's opinion, Dr. Woods special patients and Pro hair clinic photos. 4. Predicted Gho will open up a clinic in asia. 5. No prediction on Histogen. Looks promising if they didn't fake results. 6. Predicted the only viable HM technique other than Gho would surface when hairs are: "generated through the appropriate cell populations" -Team Tokyo 2012 - Moawk Advice for patients: If you are considering a hair transplant, only consider Gho's HST and nothing else. First HT treatment in the world that offers: zero scarring, small downtime and donor regrowth. http://www.hasci.com Advice for Investors in HM: Invest in Team Tokyo. http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html Ditch replicel, aderans. They are done for and have no future. Post reply
moawk Germany, 07.07.2012, 17:57 @ Hashtags	Investors forget snake oil HM companies, watch out for Team tokyo
	» in this case there are no halth concearns at all. Well my experience with » japanese inventions or technologies is that they are aiming for a fast » market entry. Their social culturel background differs highly from those of » western researchers. » » Western researchers like the idea " Hmmm lets inject something in the head » and its ok" » » While asian researchers go the Gundam Way and try to really get a hand on » the FUTURE and this is hands down the creation of cycling hair follicles. » » So far they created what people need (a follicle which can cycle and doesnt » differ from a normal native hair) what they need to do now is to make this » an acceptable mass market procedure and this can be tough. » » Think of it as a mathematical equasion. » » You have the value 10 which is the result, but now you need the correct was » to achieve or support this value. So what is the correct way? » » Is it » » 12 - 2 » » 9 +1 » » 100:10 » » Thats their current problem. In my opinion, this kind of approach (creating » follicles from scratch rather then try to keep your native ones on life » support) is the way to go, hands down. » » And if you read this paper carefully you could also read what is needed for » this. Its also surgeons who know their stuff. I think that Gho will be one » of the first ones to work with them, maybe Cole also. » » In addition, you can tell that those reasearchers know their stuff because » they categorized hair follicles in the correct area " organs". And it is of » course possible to clone healthy follicles by the 1000. You can clone » almost everything except such complex things like your brain. » » As an example, a follicle consistes of different departments, where the » visible hair is just a garbage biproduct. And those different compartments » can be cloned or multiplied individually and also in combination. » » What Gho is doing right now is the lets be careful here "Predecessor" of » what will be the future (Team Tokyo) » » Can somebody tell me if my assumptions are correct everything 100% correct but I was in Japan and what you speak of their culture and way of thinking is somewhat right. That's what I like about these guys, they refer to hf as organs and not just injecting a a specific cell that would regenerate the entire organ and pray that it does form an interaction with tissues around it and achieves it. They want to take care of all the angles for this to become true, or wait...they already did. It's only a matter of time. Nobody in the history of mankind has shown what this professor has shown in naturally bald mice, thick and black human hair with a mohawk that we all dream of. Why do you think I chose this nickname? That's right I saw it coming . But I knew when they showed something like this, this would be the real and only HM other than Gho. No replicel, no intercytex and no aderans it's team tokyo. Investors if you are reading this, stop investing in the snake oil current HM companies and get your ass to invest on Team tokyo. Now ! moawk is located in GERMANY and he is available to meet: NO --- 1. Predicted the failure of replicel, months in advance. 2. Predicted how their stock would rise/drop even with exact numbers. 3. Predicted the wild claims and crazyness that gc83uk's donor regeneration will cause among the HT industry during this summer. Including rassman's opinion, Dr. Woods special patients and Pro hair clinic photos. 4. Predicted Gho will open up a clinic in asia. 5. No prediction on Histogen. Looks promising if they didn't fake results. 6. Predicted the only viable HM technique other than Gho would surface when hairs are: "generated through the appropriate cell populations" -Team Tokyo 2012 - Moawk Advice for patients: If you are considering a hair transplant, only consider Gho's HST and nothing else. First HT treatment in the world that offers: zero scarring, small downtime and donor regrowth. http://www.hasci.com Advice for Investors in HM: Invest in Team Tokyo. http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html Ditch replicel, aderans. They are done for and have no future. Post reply
Hanibal 07.07.2012, 18:25 @ moawk	Investors forget snake oil HM companies, watch out for Team tokyo
	I wish they “Tokyo researchers” could come out with some viable results. And I don’t rule out they couldn’t. But until they can patent a hair transplant method that can yield 80 hair per sq/cm, they won’t achieve anything even if they have reserves to cover two football pitches with hair. Remember, whatever hair transplant docs say about density, it matters little. Because all it matters is yield, and at the moment they achieve 25% at best. Hanibal is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
moawk Germany, 07.07.2012, 18:41 @ Hanibal	Investors forget snake oil HM companies, watch out for Team tokyo
	» I wish they “Tokyo researchers” could come out with some viable results. » And I don’t rule out they couldn’t. But until they can patent a hair » transplant method that can yield 80 hair per sq/cm, they won’t achieve » anything even if they have reserves to cover two football pitches with » hair. Remember, whatever hair transplant docs say about density, it matters » little. Because all it matters is yield, and at the moment they achieve 25% » at best. Lmao ! Thanks expert at HTs for your thoughts. moawk is located in GERMANY and he is available to meet: NO --- 1. Predicted the failure of replicel, months in advance. 2. Predicted how their stock would rise/drop even with exact numbers. 3. Predicted the wild claims and crazyness that gc83uk's donor regeneration will cause among the HT industry during this summer. Including rassman's opinion, Dr. Woods special patients and Pro hair clinic photos. 4. Predicted Gho will open up a clinic in asia. 5. No prediction on Histogen. Looks promising if they didn't fake results. 6. Predicted the only viable HM technique other than Gho would surface when hairs are: "generated through the appropriate cell populations" -Team Tokyo 2012 - Moawk Advice for patients: If you are considering a hair transplant, only consider Gho's HST and nothing else. First HT treatment in the world that offers: zero scarring, small downtime and donor regrowth. http://www.hasci.com Advice for Investors in HM: Invest in Team Tokyo. http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html Ditch replicel, aderans. They are done for and have no future. Post reply
Rudy 08.07.2012, 00:43 @ Hanibal	Team Tokyo - Website and Details
	» Are you a hair transplant doc or a aboriginal? Because only they bark out » that 35 hair per sq is enough to create density. If you’re not aboriginal, » you should recognize letters. look at 6th class anatomy book which says, » average human hair density is 80 hairs per sq/cm. And that is only average! » You’re either hair transplant campaign victim or aboriginal, honestly. Aboriginal? I guess your talking about aboriginal or indigenous people who lack formal modern schooling and still live primitive lives. Im sure aboriginals in the amazon know little of average hair density counts. If your an Aussie and using it as a pejorative like nigger for the indigenous people there, thats pretty weak. Also less then average density if it looked and grew naturally and could cover all balding areas would be pretty good for alot of people. I would be quite pleased with 60 per in my balding area if it looked natural and the direction and texture was good. Rudy is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
Freddie555 08.07.2012, 00:48 @ Rudy	Team Tokyo - Website and Details
	» » Are you a hair transplant doc or a aboriginal? » your an Aussie and using it as a pejorative like nigger for the indigenous » people there, thats pretty weak. I wondered the same thing too. What is "aboriginal" and in what context is it being used? Sounds like he's hurling a racial insult. Freddie555 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- "When true Hair Multiplication comes, it will arise out of the East." - John The Revelator, Feb. 18, 2001 Post reply
Baldiskindacool 08.07.2012, 05:04 @ Hashtags	Let's get some money for this guys?
	» In this case i am not negative because it seems that they reallydid their » homework, they didnt wasted time with " Hey lets see if we can do it" nope » they skipped this part to get to the crucial point, the hair cycling. And » this seems to work. I am more negative about Replicel in which i dont have » any hopes at all I wasn't talking to you I was talking to hairman. Your post is correct. I just wish somebody with money (Bill Gates) gave them a grant and got this thing right. We should write his foundation, he is one trying to do something for the world because he probably doesn't want to pass as a greedy tycoon like others (Steve Jobs). Rockefeller did something similar with his fortune. Bill Gates wants to make a difference in the human condition, I think he's trying to get rid of malaria or something similar in Africa. Why not baldness too? Maybe a better shot might be to go ask Ballmer, he's bald as a penis, he might understand the issue better and get involved with his "boss". Who here lives in Seattle? Baldiskindacool is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
gmonasco 09.07.2012, 01:28 @ Baldiskindacool	Let's get some money for this guys?
	» I just wish somebody with money (Bill Gates) gave them a grant and got this » thing right. Bill Gates Doesn't Care if You're Balding http://alum.mit.edu/pages/sliceofmit/2010/04/22/bill-gates-doesnt-care-if-youre-balding/ gmonasco is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
moawk Germany, 09.07.2012, 02:19 @ gmonasco	Let's get some money for this guys?
	» » I just wish somebody with money (Bill Gates) gave them a grant and got » this » » thing right. » » Bill Gates Doesn't Care if You're Balding » » http://alum.mit.edu/pages/sliceofmit/2010/04/22/bill-gates-doesnt-care-if-youre-balding/ So didn't I when I was young and wanted to win the nobel prize in physics, lol ! That's all I thought about . Now it's all about hair. Nobody who has hair or has enjoyed hair through their youth and adulthood cares about baldness. At least I'll get hair from Gho or the tokyo guys moawk is located in GERMANY and he is available to meet: NO --- 1. Predicted the failure of replicel, months in advance. 2. Predicted how their stock would rise/drop even with exact numbers. 3. Predicted the wild claims and crazyness that gc83uk's donor regeneration will cause among the HT industry during this summer. Including rassman's opinion, Dr. Woods special patients and Pro hair clinic photos. 4. Predicted Gho will open up a clinic in asia. 5. No prediction on Histogen. Looks promising if they didn't fake results. 6. Predicted the only viable HM technique other than Gho would surface when hairs are: "generated through the appropriate cell populations" -Team Tokyo 2012 - Moawk Advice for patients: If you are considering a hair transplant, only consider Gho's HST and nothing else. First HT treatment in the world that offers: zero scarring, small downtime and donor regrowth. http://www.hasci.com Advice for Investors in HM: Invest in Team Tokyo. http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html Ditch replicel, aderans. They are done for and have no future. Post reply
Iron_Man 09.07.2012, 03:17 @ moawk	Team Tokyo - Website and Details
	» http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html » "sebaceous gland stem cell" What I still find highly interesting is that they mentioned in their original paper ... http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-101702-page-0-category-0-order-last_answer.html ...that they found out that stem cells derived from the sebaceous gland region are not necessary/responsible for hair growth/hair follicle reproduction/follicle creation from scratch. Iron_Man is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- I documented the world’s 1st day-by-day (HST) donor hair regeneration process … Post reply
Baldiskindacool 09.07.2012, 04:28 @ gmonasco	Let's get some money for this guys?
	» » I just wish somebody with money (Bill Gates) gave them a grant and got » this » » thing right. » » Bill Gates Doesn't Care if You're Balding » » http://alum.mit.edu/pages/sliceofmit/2010/04/22/bill-gates-doesnt-care-if-youre-balding/ WOW! How did you find that page? Thanks gmonasco great find. It's incredible that I mentioned Bill Gates out of all the people and the fuc43r himself has already answered my question. I'm certain baldness is just a minor problem in anybody's life, there are many other things to take care of. So what? Does that mean that I will pi$$ on the floor under my desk because work is more important? Or will I manage to do both? That's the MISER LOSER approach to anything "I have better things to do". WTF, unless one thing is clearly AGAINST the other, doing both doesn't harm anybody. What a miser Bill Gates! A problem of the rich is also be curing cancer, people don't ever reach that age when they live in poverty and despair. Should we cut the funds for that too? I won't even start with diabetes... This guy has some serious conscience problems, he must have screwed so many people over amassing his greedy loot that he now thinks he can get a clear bill just by giving it away. BOO Bill Gates, you lost my support! I hope your sons grow bald (so you'll finally get a hint on the fact that Ballmer screwed your ugly wife). Baldiskindacool is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
moawk Germany, 09.07.2012, 15:00 @ Iron_Man	Team Tokyo - Website and Details
	» » http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html » » » » » "sebaceous gland stem cell" » » What I still find highly interesting is that they mentioned in their » original paper ... » » http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-101702-page-0-category-0-order-last_answer.html » » ...that they found out that stem cells derived from the sebaceous gland » region are not necessary/responsible for hair growth/hair follicle » reproduction/follicle creation from scratch. Kinda makes sense, after all the sebaceous glands survive the onslaught of MPB as well body hair growth making you look like a monkey with a shiny chrome dome. If some bigwig could research more into this and speed up their research then we could cure even the most advanced stages of hairloss that Gho is unable to cure in 10 YEARS! I know Gho plans and always talks about producing 100 hairs from one hair and he is still researching this. I wonder how he plans on doing that moawk is located in GERMANY and he is available to meet: NO --- 1. Predicted the failure of replicel, months in advance. 2. Predicted how their stock would rise/drop even with exact numbers. 3. Predicted the wild claims and crazyness that gc83uk's donor regeneration will cause among the HT industry during this summer. Including rassman's opinion, Dr. Woods special patients and Pro hair clinic photos. 4. Predicted Gho will open up a clinic in asia. 5. No prediction on Histogen. Looks promising if they didn't fake results. 6. Predicted the only viable HM technique other than Gho would surface when hairs are: "generated through the appropriate cell populations" -Team Tokyo 2012 - Moawk Advice for patients: If you are considering a hair transplant, only consider Gho's HST and nothing else. First HT treatment in the world that offers: zero scarring, small downtime and donor regrowth. http://www.hasci.com Advice for Investors in HM: Invest in Team Tokyo. http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html Ditch replicel, aderans. They are done for and have no future. Post reply
gmonasco 10.07.2012, 17:22 @ Baldiskindacool	Let's get some money for this guys?
	» How did you find that page? Thanks gmonasco great find. Bill Gates' comments about more money being spent on finding a cure for baldness than for developing drugs to combat malaria were widely reported when he made them a couple of years ago: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1136463/Theres-reason-poor-people-malaria-The-moment-Bill-Gates-released-jar-mosquitoes-packed-conference.html I think he's off base on the comparison, though. Yeah, maybe it's an example of misplaced priorities, but tackling baldness is not exactly something that has historically had a ton of money thrown at it, especially when you consider how many people MPB affects. There are many more apt examples of research frivolity out there. In any case, there's plenty of money out there for researching both malaria drugs and a baldness cure -- pursuing one need not take away from the other. gmonasco is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
cal 10.07.2012, 19:27 @ gmonasco	Let's get some money for this guys?
	Baldness would be a frivolous problem if our society didn't rate physical appearance above competence in so many situations. cal is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
action_reaction 10.07.2012, 23:29 @ cal	Let's get some money for this guys?
	this looks by far THE WORST BALDNESS TREATMENT EVER PROPOSED!!! why mess around with all this crp to create BRAND NEW FOLLICLES? WHY CAN'T YOU FIX THE OLD ONES??? WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? action_reaction is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
ccmethinning 11.07.2012, 02:23 @ action_reaction	Let's get some money for this guys?
	» this looks by far THE WORST BALDNESS TREATMENT EVER PROPOSED!!! why mess » around with all this crp to create BRAND NEW FOLLICLES? WHY CAN'T YOU FIX » THE OLD ONES??? WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? The problem is that in many people their follicles have fibrosed and reached the point of no return. Also, fixing old follicles appears to be an even more herculean task than this. This = cure for all NW levels of all decades. Treatments that fix follicles = cure for mild NWs (NW1-NW2.5) with recent loss. ccmethinning is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
Freddie555 11.07.2012, 04:49 @ ccmethinning	Let's get some money for this guys?
	First company to come up with the cure for MPB will be worth more than anyone can imagine. My best guess is that the cure will come from the broader community researching stem cell regenerative therapy rather than these researchers working on hair regeneration. That being said, researchers have been trying to regrow spinal chords for ages to cure paraplegics and quadraplegics and none of the sh@t has worked. Guys like christopher reed aka superman have died waiting on the cure. Freddie555 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- "When true Hair Multiplication comes, it will arise out of the East." - John The Revelator, Feb. 18, 2001 Post reply
Baldiskindacool 11.07.2012, 07:05 (edited by Baldiskindacool, 11.07.2012, 07:41) @ Freddie555	Let's get some money for this guys?
	» First company to come up with the cure for MPB will be worth more than » anyone can imagine. My best guess is that the cure will come from the » broader community researching stem cell regenerative therapy rather than » these researchers working on hair regeneration. » » That being said, researchers have been trying to regrow spinal chords for » ages to cure paraplegics and quadraplegics and none of the sh@t has » worked. Guys like christopher reed aka superman have died waiting on the » cure. I'm quite sure that a dormant follicle is billion times easier to cure than a broken spinal chord. Also, nobody here even cares about functionality, we donìt want a "cure" we all care about a cosmetically acceptable result (which is quite different than "being able to walk again" ). If somebody could give us hair that are good looking but, for instance, never grow or don't really cycle they are supposed to, with no side effects, nobody would care that "it's not really curing baldness", it would work for our needs and it would be worth billions. Baldiskindacool is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
cal 11.07.2012, 08:37 @ Baldiskindacool	Let's get some money for this guys?
	» » » Also, nobody here even cares about functionality, we donìt want a "cure" we » all care about a cosmetically acceptable result (which is quite different » than "being able to walk again" ). » If somebody could give us hair that are good looking but, for instance, » never grow or don't really cycle they are supposed to, with no side » effects, nobody would care that "it's not really curing baldness", it would » work for our needs and it would be worth billions. Disagree. Virtually anything that puts hair back onto bald guys' heads will sell to the small community of diehard MPB fighters like us. But if they're gonna sell it to millions of people then they need a more perfect product. They need to restore something very much like what was lost. cal is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
Freddie555 12.07.2012, 00:02 @ cal	Let's get some money for this guys?
	» But if they're gonna sell it to millions of people then they need a more » perfect product. They need to restore something very much like what was » lost. That's not the way it works for most products. Most products from cars to ipods that are launched are not perfections. They evolve over time from being reasonable to being good to being excellent. (with a few exceptions going in the opposite direction). Freddie555 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- "When true Hair Multiplication comes, it will arise out of the East." - John The Revelator, Feb. 18, 2001 Post reply
cal 12.07.2012, 02:26 @ Freddie555	Let's get some money for this guys?
	Early cars didn't sell all that well. The product had to be largely perfected before it sold big. Cars have developed a lot since the early 1900s but they are still basically doing the same jobs at the same speeds today. Minox and Fin are imperfect MPB products. They work, but not very well. And likewise they sell, but not very well. An MPB product that restores some lost hair but not severely long-lost hair would probably sell pretty well. But I think it's important that the hair regrowing be the real thing. It has to be roughly the same color/texture/length as the original stuff was. Diehards like us will buy anything that gives us 5 more strands of hair than before. But the mass market won't. The fact is a HM product will lose A WHOLE LOT of market share from any additional side effect or headache that people's original lost hair didn't have. Different color, shorter growth, need for religious daily treatment, etc. cal is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
Baldiskindacool 12.07.2012, 04:35 @ cal	Let's get some money for this guys?
	» Early cars didn't sell all that well. The product had to be largely » perfected before it sold big. Cars have developed a lot since the early » 1900s but they are still basically doing the same jobs at the same speeds » today. » » Minox and Fin are imperfect MPB products. They work, but not very well. » And likewise they sell, but not very well. » » An MPB product that restores some lost hair but not severely long-lost hair » would probably sell pretty well. But I think it's important that the hair » regrowing be the real thing. It has to be roughly the same » color/texture/length as the original stuff was. » » Diehards like us will buy anything that gives us 5 more strands of hair » than before. But the mass market won't. The fact is a HM product will » lose A WHOLE LOT of market share from any additional side effect or » headache that people's original lost hair didn't have. Different color, » shorter growth, need for religious daily treatment, etc. Cal, you're too pessimistic and unrealistic. Don't think the "regular bald" doesn't want a solution that is far from perfect. Millions buy minox and propecia for that reason and they don't do squat. If a cure let's say takes 5 repeated treatment over 2 years to give you a nw2 head, and costs 5 grand a pop, BUT AFTER 2 YEARS YOU DO HAVE A NW2 HEAD WITH NO REAL SIDE EFFECTS, people will form lines for it. Even if it's not the magic potion that grows all your hair right away. Baldiskindacool is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
KO 12.07.2012, 09:49 @ Freddie555	Let's get some money for this guys?
	Meh, at this point in time Ballmer's probably accepted his hair loss. He's just been bald for so long that it's probably not his concern anymore. Plus as he gets older and older, it will matter less and less to him. KO is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
Freddie555 13.07.2012, 01:58 @ KO	Let's get some money for this guys?
	There are some seniors on this board and even they want to look good. When you look good whatever your age, you feel good. Its a feeling no fancy attire or car or whatever can buy. This is why I say that the first company to come up with a permanent CURE for mpb will be rich beyond their wildest imagination. There isn't anything bald guys won't give to get their hair back. Freddie555 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- "When true Hair Multiplication comes, it will arise out of the East." - John The Revelator, Feb. 18, 2001 Post reply
cal 13.07.2012, 02:02 @ KO	Let's get some money for this guys?
	Cal, you're too pessimistic and unrealistic. Don't think the "regular bald" doesn't want a solution that is far from perfect. Millions buy minox and propecia for that reason and they don't do squat. If a cure let's say takes 5 repeated treatment over 2 years to give you a nw2 head, and costs 5 grand a pop, BUT AFTER 2 YEARS YOU DO HAVE A NW2 HEAD WITH NO REAL SIDE EFFECTS, people will form lines for it. Even if it's not the magic potion that grows all your hair right away. I'm not saying an MPB treatment won't sell just because it has to be redone every other year and only works on the more recent loss. I'm talking about if you had smooth brown hair before MPB but the new stuff comes out rough and white. Or if the new stuff can only grow 2 centimeters in length. Or if you have to religiously apply gunk on your head 2-3 times a day and never get it sun-bleached in order to keep it. Etc. I'm saying it will reduce sales dramatically if the product causes any additional PITAs or side effects that the original lost hair didn't have. People want their own hair back, not just any kind of covering over their scalps. A product with "issues" may only sell to a few million people worldwide instead of selling to 100 million people if it works beautifully. cal is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
moawk Germany, 13.07.2012, 22:01 @ KO	Let's get some money for this guys?
	» Meh, at this point in time Ballmer's probably accepted his hair loss. He's » just been bald for so long that it's probably not his concern anymore. Plus » as he gets older and older, it will matter less and less to him. Somebody contact ballmer, he needs to get the ball rolling. moawk is located in GERMANY and he is available to meet: NO --- 1. Predicted the failure of replicel, months in advance. 2. Predicted how their stock would rise/drop even with exact numbers. 3. Predicted the wild claims and crazyness that gc83uk's donor regeneration will cause among the HT industry during this summer. Including rassman's opinion, Dr. Woods special patients and Pro hair clinic photos. 4. Predicted Gho will open up a clinic in asia. 5. No prediction on Histogen. Looks promising if they didn't fake results. 6. Predicted the only viable HM technique other than Gho would surface when hairs are: "generated through the appropriate cell populations" -Team Tokyo 2012 - Moawk Advice for patients: If you are considering a hair transplant, only consider Gho's HST and nothing else. First HT treatment in the world that offers: zero scarring, small downtime and donor regrowth. http://www.hasci.com Advice for Investors in HM: Invest in Team Tokyo. http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html Ditch replicel, aderans. They are done for and have no future. Post reply
action_reaction 13.07.2012, 22:35 @ ccmethinning	Let's get some money for this guys?
	» The problem is that in many people their follicles have fibrosed and » reached the point of no return. Also, fixing old follicles appears to be an » even more herculean task than this. what was the point of this then: http://voices.yahoo.com/bald-men-still-all-their-hair-follicles-7544218.html Bald Men Still Have All of Their Hair Follicles » This = cure for all NW levels of all decades. » » Treatments that fix follicles = cure for mild NWs (NW1-NW2.5) with recent » loss. "THIS" is far away AND it won't be applicable for all women and most men. I'm thinking those people are aware of it so they won't pursue it action_reaction is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
action_reaction 13.07.2012, 22:37 @ cal	Let's get some money for this guys?
	» Virtually anything that puts hair back onto bald guys' heads will sell to » the small community of diehard MPB fighters like us. » » But if they're gonna sell it to millions of people then they need a more » perfect product. They need to restore something very much like what was » lost. bingo! Gho and whatever other follicle splitting manual implantation crp that a few people on this forum are desperate to get WON'T FLY ON THE OPEN MARKET. VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WON'T BE INTERESTED IN SUCH TREATMENTS. action_reaction is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
gmonasco 13.07.2012, 22:54 @ KO	Let's get some money for this guys?
	» Meh, at this point in time Ballmer's probably accepted his hair loss. He's » just been bald for so long that it's probably not his concern anymore. Plus » as he gets older and older, it will matter less and less to him. You don't have to have cancer yourself in order to be interested in finding a cure for it. You do it for other people. gmonasco is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply
moawk Germany, 13.07.2012, 23:48 @ action_reaction	Let's get some money for this guys?
	» bingo! Gho and whatever other follicle splitting manual implantation crp » that a few people on this forum are desperate to get WON'T FLY ON THE OPEN » MARKET. VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WON'T BE INTERESTED IN SUCH TREATMENTS. Gho patients think otherwise: moawk is located in GERMANY and he is available to meet: NO --- 1. Predicted the failure of replicel, months in advance. 2. Predicted how their stock would rise/drop even with exact numbers. 3. Predicted the wild claims and crazyness that gc83uk's donor regeneration will cause among the HT industry during this summer. Including rassman's opinion, Dr. Woods special patients and Pro hair clinic photos. 4. Predicted Gho will open up a clinic in asia. 5. No prediction on Histogen. Looks promising if they didn't fake results. 6. Predicted the only viable HM technique other than Gho would surface when hairs are: "generated through the appropriate cell populations" -Team Tokyo 2012 - Moawk Advice for patients: If you are considering a hair transplant, only consider Gho's HST and nothing else. First HT treatment in the world that offers: zero scarring, small downtime and donor regrowth. http://www.hasci.com Advice for Investors in HM: Invest in Team Tokyo. http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html Ditch replicel, aderans. They are done for and have no future. Post reply