helpme007
15.01.2009, 07:45 |
Mental problems caused by baldness (Off Topics & General Discussions) |
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Male pattern hair loss or baldness is not a life threatening condition but men who suffer from this problem can have some serious problems in all spheres of life. Though some men accept their baldness or hair loss and move on, some men just cannot get on with it and suffer a great deal mentally. Hair loss can affect men’s appearance and their idea of appearance. It can shatter their confidence and make them feel inferior in front of others. Low self-esteem, anger, and resentment are some of the mental problems that arise because of hair loss. As different men have different opinions and feelings about their hair loss, some go a long way to get a treatment for it while some take it lightly and do nothing about it.
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http://www.articledashboard.com/Article/Hair-loss--Propecia-for-male-pattern-baldness-treatment/674800
its especially interesting if you compare this with people in here. "...It can shatter their confidence..." ...ok we all know that. "...and make them feel inferior in front of others..." this often matches what is written on this forum, too. "Low self-esteem, anger, and resentment are some of the mental problems that arise because of hair loss." here we go...it says that you develope mental problems coz of hairloss. i think resentment, anger and low self-esteem is nothing someone should suffer from if he wants to have a happy life. sure, you can interpret this sentence in another way: you can say that are normal behaviours. dunno. but its nothing which makes you happy. its a question of definition if resentment, anger and low self-esteem are mental problems or just normal things...noone says people who suffer from hairloss are completey crazy. but they often got mental issues like the named ones. if you just read a few minutes in here, this matches perfectly.
i highly think its not your baldness which causes the problems, its the named mental issues, resentment, anger and low self-esteem which are the problem.
i searched for this and write this is to put another view on baldness. maybe you cannot fight hairloss in some cases, but you can fight resentment, anger and low self-esteem to get happier. it wont solve the baldness-problem if you fight these things, though. a cure for baldness was the perfect solution. maybe in the meantime you can work on these things. wanted to add this to debris' posts.
just my two cents
EDIT: i thought about this again. it all matches to me. and all this is caused by hairloss. some people are ok with baldness, others not. for them who arent ok with it, a cure would probably help them much with happiness in life. for me, too. in reverse that means, if you suffer from baldness and you can solve it (by a transplant in my case), you should do it and all these things should go away...
EDIT 2: this all shows, that its perfectly normal to want hair back. again, some can deal with it, but thats not for everyone.
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biston
15.01.2009, 11:28
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I have a lot of mental problems caused by hair loss, that's why I agree
especially with this "It can shatter their confidence and make them feel inferior in front of others"
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Ahab
15.01.2009, 14:10
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>i highly think its not your baldness which causes the problems,
>its the named mental issues, resentment, anger and low self-esteem
It's normal for bald people-especially young bald people--to have low self-esteem, because they look repulsive and have inferior genes.
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helpme007
15.01.2009, 14:31
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i posted this to show that its normal what we all go through. ya, some are happy beeing bald, but not everyone. i fit in the second category and i think most people on this forum do.
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healthyhair
15.01.2009, 15:13
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This is what I think it comes down to. Balding or baldness is pretty much universally accepted as an unattractive quality, both by men and women.
In life, I think what we all want is to love and be loved. If you are balding, your chances of getting this want met are decreased, and by all means, it is unfair. If someone is overweight, has a large nose, etc, these things can be pretty much fixed. Balding is pretty much out of one's control, even with today's treatments.
There is this bald guy in a group I belong to. He has the perfect horseshoe pattern. The thing is that he looks very unattractive bald. He is working on trying to be rich in the real estate industry, and he has been perpetually single I think his entire life. The sad part about his story is that no matter how rich he becomes and gets his life together, and no matter how much he may attempt to work out to get a hot body, he will always be unattractive because of his hairloss. The guy is a totally nice guy, and I feel sorry for him because my guess is that he probably will not attract a decent woman no matter what he does.
I have seen those shows where really fat women compete to lose all of their excess body weight. They have reason to be eager and ambitious because they know that if they can just lose that weight, they will soon be taking numbers by many men. A bald guy can be on the same show and incredibly lose his weight as well, except he is still bald, and probably will still have a hard time meeting women. So what may a balding guy do and think? Well, he may choose to just give up on his weight loss, not join such a show, knowing that it is futile.
The same may go for a young man in his early twenties in college. He knows that even if he pulls off hard-earned success in college and as a professional, it won't mean nearly as much in attracting the mate he wants because he will be bald. So he may understandably become depressed, turn to alcohol/drugs, or even drop out of school. Why? Because of the unfairness of it all.
Consequently, it is no wonder that bald/balding men and women develop mental issues (depression, anxiety, etc.) because of their hairloss. Because no matter what obstacles they may surmount in life, it still will not be enough, because they are still bald.
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helpme007
15.01.2009, 15:41
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» This is what I think it comes down to. Balding or baldness is pretty much
» universally accepted as an unattractive quality, both by men and women.
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» In life, I think what we all want is to love and be loved. If you are
» balding, your chances of getting this want met are decreased, and by all
» means, it is unfair. If someone is overweight, has a large nose, etc,
» these things can be pretty much fixed. Balding is pretty much out of one's
» control, even with today's treatments.
»
» There is this bald guy in a group I belong to. He has the perfect
» horseshoe pattern. The thing is that he looks very unattractive bald. He
» is working on trying to be rich in the real estate industry, and he has
» been perpetually single I think his entire life. The sad part about his
» story is that no matter how rich he becomes and gets his life together, and
» no matter how much he may attempt to work out to get a hot body, he will
» always be unattractive because of his hairloss. The guy is a totally nice
» guy, and I feel sorry for him because my guess is that he probably will not
» attract a decent woman no matter what he does.
»
» I have seen those shows where really fat women compete to lose all of
» their excess body weight. They have reason to be eager and ambitious
» because they know that if they can just lose that weight, they will soon be
» taking numbers by many men. A bald guy can be on the same show and
» incredibly lose his weight as well, except he is still bald, and probably
» will still have a hard time meeting women. So what may a balding guy do
» and think? Well, he may choose to just give up on his weight loss, not
» join such a show, knowing that it is futile.
»
» The same may go for a young man in his early twenties in college. He
» knows that even if he pulls off hard-earned success in college and as a
» professional, it won't mean nearly as much in attracting the mate he wants
» because he will be bald. So he may understandably become depressed, turn
» to alcohol/drugs, or even drop out of school. Why? Because of the
» unfairness of it all.
»
» Consequently, it is no wonder that bald/balding men and women develop
» mental issues (depression, anxiety, etc.) because of their hairloss.
» Because no matter what obstacles they may surmount in life, it still will
» not be enough, because they are still bald.
thx for your long post. ya, i think this is the reason there is this forum and this is why people hope for a cure which may never come. because they dont have actual choices. this is indeed a problem. i now better understand the desperation in here.
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saturn
15.01.2009, 16:01
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I WISH THAT WE COULD CHANGE SOCIETYS ATTITUTE TO BALDNESS
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xbeliever
15.01.2009, 19:13
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The gut instinct that most guys seem to have that hair loss -- specifically -- is going to hammer their attractiveness to women seems to me too hard-wired and persistent (like, across eons of history) to attribute to just low self-image or some sort of culturally-induced mass hallucination. I've known plenty of guys with full heads of hair who've gained all sorts of weight, got totally out of shape, etc, yet seemed to have no hunch that this (weight gain) might be a liability with females. Because ... they still had their hair. Similarly, I've seen guys who were just, in terms of facial features, homely as a fence post, but they had all their hair and did not seem to be inhibited by their lack of "pretty boy" features. BUT ... let a guy lose just a little hair and this inner voice automatically starts whispering and the first thing it says is: "Uh oh, this is gonna be bad with the ladies." I think that voice is not "social programming" or a deficiency of Tony Robbins-type mental conditioning. I think it's genetic memory you're born with. It's the same voice that, if you are hiking in the hills and a certain slithering pattern appears under your feet, tells you -- "Snake!" -- and you automatically jump without even thinking about it. It's a native instinct, probably the cumulative product of experience dating back to primitive ancestors. It's letting you know that somewhere in the mechanism of that most basic drive -- the instinct to mate and the ability to find a desirable one -- a warning light is flashing and all is not well.
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healthyhair
15.01.2009, 22:22
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» The gut instinct that most guys seem to have that hair loss --
» specifically -- is going to hammer their attractiveness to women
» seems to me too hard-wired and persistent (like, across eons of history) to
» attribute to just low self-image or some sort of culturally-induced mass
» hallucination. I've known plenty of guys with full heads of hair who've
» gained all sorts of weight, got totally out of shape, etc, yet seemed to
» have no hunch that this (weight gain) might be a liability with females.
» Because ... they still had their hair. Similarly, I've seen guys who were
» just, in terms of facial features, homely as a fence post, but they had all
» their hair and did not seem to be inhibited by their lack of "pretty boy"
» features. BUT ... let a guy lose just a little hair and this inner voice
» automatically starts whispering and the first thing it says is: "Uh oh,
» this is gonna be bad with the ladies." I think that voice is not "social
» programming" or a deficiency of Tony Robbins-type mental conditioning. I
» think it's genetic memory you're born with. It's the same voice that, if
» you are hiking in the hills and a certain slithering pattern appears under
» your feet, tells you -- "Snake!" -- and you automatically jump without even
» thinking about it. It's a native instinct, probably the cumulative product
» of experience dating back to primitive ancestors. It's letting you know
» that somewhere in the mechanism of that most basic drive -- the instinct to
» mate and the ability to find a desirable one -- a warning light is flashing
» and all is not well.
You are exactly right. It's almost as if what you are talking about is what the famous psychologist Carl Jung described as the collective unconscious. It has been built into our psyches that baldness is "bad" because our primal ancestors/history know that baldness is unattractive; consequently, a threat to being with someone/mating. I do not blame the men who are on these boards looking for something to manage, let alone cure, their baldness. Most men and women want to be sexually attracted to their mates if they are going to have sex; I know that I do. And if you are bald, your chances are very slim. Who wants to live a lonely life? It is no wonder that suicidal ideation creeps into the minds of balding people. For some people, suicide is better than living a lonely life.
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cal
15.01.2009, 23:14
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Baldness is less physically attractive than having hair. Universally. (Yeah, being bald can still look good. But so can being old. That doesn't mean being young & hairy isn't still better.)
Being more physically attractive benefits pretty much every possible part of life that involves interacting with other humans. Period.
This is not the opinion of depressed ugly people, this is plain old stupid logical facts. The massive effects of physical appearance has been studied dozens of times all over the world.
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15.01.2009, 23:51
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helpme , the biggest crybaby on the board..........posting on how baldness makes him cry, and other guys joining in and saying, yes it does make us all losers
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helpme007
16.01.2009, 00:31
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Perfect example of the board pity party |
» helpme , the biggest crybaby on the board..........posting on how baldness
» makes him cry, and other guys joining in and saying, yes it does make us
» all losers
i didnt say it makes us losers, but it certainly has an impact in terms of psychological problems. im not saying hanging in here (not "there" ) is the best way of dealing with this problem. but there are impacts, you cant deny it.
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Ahab
20.01.2009, 22:52
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(Long breath. Here we go again. OK; I'm ready)
Since the vast majority of young men have hair, it is normal to be young and have hair.
Ergo, it is abnormal to be young and bald.
This demonstrates that being young and bald is an evolutionary disadvantage.
For surely, if being young and bald were an evolutionary advantage, the majority of young men would have evolved to be young and bald.
Instead, we find the opposite.
Therefore, being young and bald is an inferior genetic combination.
FURTHER, it is for this reason that the rest of soceity wants us to grin and bear/bare it (pardon the pun).
It is for this reason, people feel that when someone attempts to conceal his baldness, he is attempting to "fool" people ( 'Who does he think he's fooling?' ).
In essence, the bald person attempting to conceal his baldness is seen as cheating at the rules of life--
That is, he is trying to pass himself off as being of higher genetic status.
I can go on, but i cast pearls before mostly swine.
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cal
21.01.2009, 13:16
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Of course it's natural thing to go bald. It's the way nature designed us to age, whether it was by intention or by accident.
It's also completely natural to get your intestines ripped out by a hungry lion while you're still alive & screaming.
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goodlooking
07.09.2009, 07:58
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» Of course it's natural thing to go bald. It's the way nature designed us
» to age, whether it was by intention or by accident.
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»
» It's also completely natural to get your intestines ripped out by a hungry
» lion while you're still alive & screaming.
You guys really do have mental problems. Realise that how you feel and view things is caused by your thoughts. If you believe that bald=ugly=loser then that is what you will feel you are. Congratulations :p
And do realise as well that you are not having those negative thoughts because they are logical, but due to your life up to now. Time to examine it and what caused you to form those thoughts, instead of endlessly crying about your baldness, which no one else cares about.
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cal
08.09.2009, 18:13
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» You guys really do have mental problems. Realise that how you feel and
» view things is caused by your thoughts. If you believe that bald=ugly=loser
» then that is what you will feel you are. Congratulations :p
» And do realise as well that you are not having those negative thoughts
» because they are logical, but due to your life up to now. Time to examine
» it and what caused you to form those thoughts, instead of endlessly crying
» about your baldness, which no one else cares about.
Negative thoughts are not logical here?
Being slowly & unstoppably robbed of your decent normal appearance during your teens/20s? And having the rest of society ridicule you for it instead of having any basic sympathy/respect for your situation?
Most people would say this is a pretty f*cking logical reason to have some negative thoughts.
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goodlooking
09.09.2009, 08:06
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» »
» » You guys really do have mental problems. Realise that how you feel and
» » view things is caused by your thoughts. If you believe that
» bald=ugly=loser
» » then that is what you will feel you are. Congratulations :p
» » And do realise as well that you are not having those negative thoughts
» » because they are logical, but due to your life up to now. Time to
» examine
» » it and what caused you to form those thoughts, instead of endlessly
» crying
» » about your baldness, which no one else cares about.
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»
» Negative thoughts are not logical here?
»
»
» Being slowly & unstoppably robbed of your decent normal appearance during
» your teens/20s? And having the rest of society ridicule you for it instead
» of having any basic sympathy/respect for your situation?
»
» Most people would say this is a pretty f*cking logical reason to have some
» negative thoughts.
Well i have been losing my hair since i was 16. Of course it was horrible at the time, but i came to realise that it was not something simply inevitable that i would feel as enormously bad about it as i did. I am now 30, and had some HT since for many many years i was certain that my hairloss was what was causing all of the problems in my life, and my emotional distress. But that was not true.
You should begin to realise that everything you feel is caused by what you consciously or unconsciously think and have thought. Each person is the sum of his thoughts. There is no such thing as an impression which is objective, it is all down to your mental world and how you feel about things, which is why you also see people with little to no hair on their head who do not appear to care about it.
It is just that under some circumstances one is bound to identify his emotional state with his body image. But body image is a complicated thing. You can be seing something horrible, when others do not see it at all, because you are projecting your negative emotions onto what you see.
But i do not plan to provide a psychology lesson here, just to note that it is possible for someone with hl to overcome it, and not in some miserable way, thinking that he should become accustomed to being something inferior, but in a logical way, examining just why he has such views about himself.
Of course each person is different. Do not make the mistake to think that just because some people here also think that their hairloss is their sole problem, they are just like you, and you have somehow reached a conclusion based on common experience. They are miserable due to their own psyche, and have nothing in common with you.
My advice is to seek psychiatric help, since it is very difficult to change your way of thinking all by your own. Just note that it can be done. I can inform you that i was even suicidal in the past, due to (in my view) my hair, but now am entirely happy with them, although i do not have a full head of hair.
Anyway, good luck
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diamond6
28.10.2009, 19:25
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Total B.S. I have worked in the hair replacement business for several years and have had surgeries since 1986. Even when I was 6 years old I hated baldness and looked at it as a deformity. It truly is. The fact that some people want to put on a bravado is a cover up in not being able to face the truth. It is like saying losing your arm does not matter. I have been in therapy, had good corrective work done and am still undergoing it. The better my hair looks the better I feel. NO ONE cans say baldness does not destroy lives. It needs a cure like many things. The psychological effects are a life scarring experience. I lost all of my youth and am now in my 40's. When I was 14 two people told me that I would be bald. That was 30 years ago and guess what it still is devastating and should never happen to a teen ager. I have been poked fun of and resent what the doctors did and having to live with a total obsession which lead to depression that I never had as a young man. IT is a disfigurement and if it were not you would not have a 75 billion dollar a year business. Lie to yourself if you want but nobody is listening to such b.s.  When the cure comes out someone will be a multi billionaire. I myself would never have a child because of this disease of the spirit and mind. No -bald is great and everyone is so happy with it- Sounds like a nutcase to me!
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cal
29.10.2009, 14:43
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A recently parayzed guy might benefit from psychiatric help for his condition.
But that doesn't mean his condition isn't a viable reason for him to have gotten depressed.
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