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astressin-b

21.09.2011, 14:20
 

Astressin-b clinical study results! (Hair Multiplication & Stem Cells Treatment)

I received a email back from Daniel at DS Laboratories, it contains some clinical study information about the Astressin-b product.

Posted below.

Hello,

Good to hear from you.

The clinical study for Astressin-B has already been completed over 2 months ago. Since the product has already been commercialized (it will begin shipping in roughly 2 weeks), naturally we had to test prior to selling it (anything else would be simply foolish). To my knowledge we are the only biotech player in the world to test Astressin-B in humans and the results from our study have been very favorable.

It should be noted however that all the media coverage on Astressin-B refers to its use as a systemic drug perhaps through intravenous therapy. Our testing only evaluated topical use. As far as any other use of Astressin-B it may still be years away and we are investigating its use in an oral tablet.

In our half-head study we compared the efficacy of Astressin-B (pure form) against a control (a 5% minoxidil solution). On one side we applied 1ml of Astressin-B solution and 1ml of minoxidil solution on the other. After 3 months, the Astressin-B side had slightly more hair density than the minoxidil side.

Whats exciting is that this result was attained through a completely different treatment modality involving totally different underlying factors. This therefore leads to an opportunity to compound these effects and this is why you can obtain an even better result when combining Astressin-B with other proven treatments.



Daniel Khesin

DS Laboratories, Inc.

Miami, FL 33137
p. 888 .404 .7770
c. 347 .276 .2598
f. 646 .219 .2572
e. daniel@dslaboratories.com
w. www.dslaboratories.com




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CaughtOut

21.09.2011, 14:55

@ astressin-b

Astressin-b clinical study results!

I received a email back from Daniel at DS Laboratories, it contains some
clinical study information about the Astressin-b product.

Posted below.

Hello,

Good to hear from you.

The clinical study for Astressin-B has already been completed over 2 months
ago. Since the product has already been commercialized (it will begin
shipping in roughly 2 weeks), naturally we had to test prior to selling it
(anything else would be simply foolish). To my knowledge we are the only
biotech player in the world to test Astressin-B in humans and the results
from our study have been very favorable.

It should be noted however that all the media coverage on Astressin-B
refers to its use as a systemic drug perhaps through intravenous therapy.
Our testing only evaluated topical use. As far as any other use of
Astressin-B it may still be years away and we are investigating its use in
an oral tablet.

In our half-head study we compared the efficacy of Astressin-B (pure form)
against a control (a 5% minoxidil solution). On one side we applied 1ml of
Astressin-B solution and 1ml of minoxidil solution on the other. After 3
months, the Astressin-B side had slightly more hair density than the
minoxidil side.

Whats exciting is that this result was attained through a completely
different treatment modality involving totally different underlying
factors. This therefore leads to an opportunity to compound these effects
and this is why you can obtain an even better result when combining
Astressin-B with other proven treatments.



Daniel Khesin

DS Laboratories, Inc.

Miami, FL 33137
p. 888 .404 .7770
c. 347 .276 .2598
f. 646 .219 .2572
e. daniel@dslaboratories.com
w. www.dslaboratories.com

Might be interesting to inquire if the trialist experienced shedding and if so was it from both sides or just the minox side.




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astressin-b

21.09.2011, 16:48

@ CaughtOut

Astressin-b clinical study results!

This is very interesting and exciting news, but I have to admit that with astressin-b having such a large mol weight, I question how much of the peptide is actually able to pass through the skin barrier.

If, this method of delivery actually works, as well or better than minox, it may bode well for the oral or injected form. Anyone thinking of trying it when it releases in 2 weeks?




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TaKeeLa

21.09.2011, 18:12

@ astressin-b

Astressin-b clinical study results!

This is very interesting and exciting news, but I have to admit that with
astressin-b having such a large mol weight, I question how much of the
peptide is actually able to pass through the skin barrier.

If, this method of delivery actually works, as well or better than minox,
it may bode well for the oral or injected form. Anyone thinking of trying
it when it releases in 2 weeks?

THIS IS A FAKE PRODUCT ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? Listen to what you just said, the mol weight of Astressin-b is large, it is a large compound when compared to ones that we know are able to pass through the skin. Astressin-b almost assuredly will not. If they did studies then where is the FDA approval? Why hasn't there been more news releases? Where are the actual scientific reports? All they said is it grows slightly more hair and you accept that as proof that they did scientific human clinical trials? This is OBVIOUSLY a sca~m!!! Look this is even quoted from the ACTUAL REAL RESEARCHERS.

"Jason Wats MD September 21, 2011 at 7:45 pm

nikos, there is no scientific proof that the compound works topically. "

THIS IS A FAKE PRODUCT DONT WASTE YOUR TIME OR MONEY.




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astressin-b

21.09.2011, 18:32

@ TaKeeLa

Astressin-b clinical study results!

This is very interesting and exciting news, but I have to admit that
with
astressin-b having such a large mol weight, I question how much of the
peptide is actually able to pass through the skin barrier.

If, this method of delivery actually works, as well or better than
minox,
it may bode well for the oral or injected form. Anyone thinking of
trying
it when it releases in 2 weeks?

THIS IS A FAKE PRODUCT ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? Listen to what you just said,
the mol weight of Astressin-b is large, it is a large compound when
compared to ones that we know are able to pass through the skin.
Astressin-b almost assuredly will not. If they did studies then where is
the FDA approval? Why hasn't there been more news releases? Where are the
actual scientific reports? All they said is it grows slightly more hair and
you accept that as proof that they did scientific human clinical trials?
This is OBVIOUSLY a sca~m!!! Look this is even quoted from the ACTUAL REAL
RESEARCHERS.

"Jason Wats MD September 21, 2011 at 7:45 pm

nikos, there is no scientific proof that the compound works topically. "

THIS IS A FAKE PRODUCT DONT WASTE YOUR TIME OR MONEY.

What is the source of this quote?




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Spanish Dude

21.09.2011, 18:59

@ astressin-b

Astressin-b clinical study results!

Hello:

do you have the data sheet of this trial, on clinicaltrials.gov?


Whats exciting is that this result was attained through a completely
different treatment modality involving totally different underlying
factors
.

I am reading that Astressin 2B increases blood flow (I don't know if Astressin 2B is the same as Astressin-B).
Then Astressin-B could be equivalent to Minoxidil. So I am not sure that both could be compoundable.
disclaimer: this is the first time I try to learn anything about this drug.





I received a email back from Daniel at DS Laboratories, it contains some
clinical study information about the Astressin-b product.

Posted below.

Hello,

Good to hear from you.

The clinical study for Astressin-B has already been completed over 2 months
ago. Since the product has already been commercialized (it will begin
shipping in roughly 2 weeks), naturally we had to test prior to selling it
(anything else would be simply foolish). To my knowledge we are the only
biotech player in the world to test Astressin-B in humans and the results
from our study have been very favorable.

It should be noted however that all the media coverage on Astressin-B
refers to its use as a systemic drug perhaps through intravenous therapy.
Our testing only evaluated topical use. As far as any other use of
Astressin-B it may still be years away and we are investigating its use in
an oral tablet.

In our half-head study we compared the efficacy of Astressin-B (pure form)
against a control (a 5% minoxidil solution). On one side we applied 1ml of
Astressin-B solution and 1ml of minoxidil solution on the other. After 3
months, the Astressin-B side had slightly more hair density than the
minoxidil side.

Whats exciting is that this result was attained through a completely
different treatment modality involving totally different underlying
factors
. This therefore leads to an opportunity to compound these effects
and this is why you can obtain an even better result when combining
Astressin-B with other proven treatments.



Daniel Khesin

DS Laboratories, Inc.

Miami, FL 33137
p. 888 .404 .7770
c. 347 .276 .2598
f. 646 .219 .2572
e. daniel@dslaboratories.com
w. www.dslaboratories.com




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TaKeeLa

21.09.2011, 19:55

@ astressin-b

Astressin-b clinical study results!

This is very interesting and exciting news, but I have to admit that
with
astressin-b having such a large mol weight, I question how much of the
peptide is actually able to pass through the skin barrier.

If, this method of delivery actually works, as well or better than
minox,
it may bode well for the oral or injected form. Anyone thinking of
trying
it when it releases in 2 weeks?

THIS IS A FAKE PRODUCT ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? Listen to what you just
said,
the mol weight of Astressin-b is large, it is a large compound when
compared to ones that we know are able to pass through the skin.
Astressin-b almost assuredly will not. If they did studies then where is
the FDA approval? Why hasn't there been more news releases? Where are
the
actual scientific reports? All they said is it grows slightly more hair
and
you accept that as proof that they did scientific human clinical trials?
This is OBVIOUSLY a sca~m!!! Look this is even quoted from the ACTUAL
REAL
RESEARCHERS.

"Jason Wats MD September 21, 2011 at 7:45 pm

nikos, there is no scientific proof that the compound works topically. "

THIS IS A FAKE PRODUCT DONT WASTE YOUR TIME OR MONEY.

What is the source of this quote?

hairloss-research.com

SpanishDude, Astressin-2b is not the same as Astressin-B. It was proven to have no effect on hair.




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nemo.shark

22.09.2011, 01:22

@ astressin-b

Astressin-b clinical study results!

I received a email back from Daniel at DS Laboratories, it contains some
clinical study information about the Astressin-b product.

Posted below.

Hello,

Good to hear from you.

The clinical study for Astressin-B has already been completed over 2 months
ago. Since the product has already been commercialized (it will begin
shipping in roughly 2 weeks), naturally we had to test prior to selling it
(anything else would be simply foolish). To my knowledge we are the only
biotech player in the world to test Astressin-B in humans and the results
from our study have been very favorable.

It should be noted however that all the media coverage on Astressin-B
refers to its use as a systemic drug perhaps through intravenous therapy.
Our testing only evaluated topical use. As far as any other use of
Astressin-B it may still be years away and we are investigating its use in
an oral tablet.

In our half-head study we compared the efficacy of Astressin-B (pure form)
against a control (a 5% minoxidil solution). On one side we applied 1ml of
Astressin-B solution and 1ml of minoxidil solution on the other. After 3
months, the Astressin-B side had slightly more hair density than the
minoxidil side.

Whats exciting is that this result was attained through a completely
different treatment modality involving totally different underlying
factors. This therefore leads to an opportunity to compound these effects
and this is why you can obtain an even better result when combining
Astressin-B with other proven treatments.



Daniel Khesin

DS Laboratories, Inc.

Miami, FL 33137
p. 888 .404 .7770
c. 347 .276 .2598
f. 646 .219 .2572
e. daniel@dslaboratories.com
w. www.dslaboratories.com


if this is legit then i hate to tell everyone i told you so but I TOLD YOU ALL SO! i knew it would work or at least have a beneficial effect despite all the nay sayers with a lack of intellect saying it only worked because the mice were over expressing crf,,




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Rob35

22.09.2011, 03:35

@ astressin-b

Astressin-b clinical study results!

I received a email back from Daniel at DS Laboratories, it contains some
clinical study information about the Astressin-b product.

Posted below.

Hello,

Good to hear from you.

The clinical study for Astressin-B has already been completed over 2 months
ago. Since the product has already been commercialized (it will begin
shipping in roughly 2 weeks), naturally we had to test prior to selling it
(anything else would be simply foolish). To my knowledge we are the only
biotech player in the world to test Astressin-B in humans and the results
from our study have been very favorable.

It should be noted however that all the media coverage on Astressin-B
refers to its use as a systemic drug perhaps through intravenous therapy.
Our testing only evaluated topical use. As far as any other use of
Astressin-B it may still be years away and we are investigating its use in
an oral tablet.

In our half-head study we compared the efficacy of Astressin-B (pure form)
against a control (a 5% minoxidil solution). On one side we applied 1ml of
Astressin-B solution and 1ml of minoxidil solution on the other. After 3
months, the Astressin-B side had slightly more hair density than the
minoxidil side.

Whats exciting is that this result was attained through a completely
different treatment modality involving totally different underlying
factors. This therefore leads to an opportunity to compound these effects
and this is why you can obtain an even better result when combining
Astressin-B with other proven treatments.



Daniel Khesin

DS Laboratories, Inc.

Miami, FL 33137
p. 888 .404 .7770
c. 347 .276 .2598
f. 646 .219 .2572
e. daniel@dslaboratories.com
w. www.dslaboratories.com



So judging from this it works as a topical but not as well as intravenous so that's why they trying now to look at it as an oral tablet.

I think now we have enough people on board to try to organize it to and buy astressin b ourselves




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overthetop

22.09.2011, 11:34

@ Rob35

Astressin-b clinical study results!

There has been some mention here and there of side-effects. Does anyone have a good read on what these are ?




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astressin-b

22.09.2011, 11:51

@ Rob35

Derma roller + DS F7 ?

I was just thinking of some ways that might make it possible to get astressin-b across the skin barrier, due to its large size. I know that many people use derma-rollers in combination with topical copper peptides or retin-A to increase absorption. Do any of you have experience with derma-rolling?

Excerpt from a product description.

'Research has demonstrated that the effectiveness of the active ingredients in topically applied skin care products (such as Vitamin A and C) is greatly improved when an intervention allows those ingredients to reach below the outer surface of the skin.
Rollers are proven to increase the absorption of the active ingredients in creams, lotions, and serums by up to 1000%.
Rollers create thousands of micro-channels in the skin that allow nutrients to absorb; the channels close after several minutes, locking in the anti-aging nutrients and anti-oxidants.'




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doubleC

22.09.2011, 12:55

@ Rob35

Astressin-b clinical study results!

I think now we have enough people on board to try to organize it to and buy
astressin b ourselves


^^ that's what I'm saying! we just need to get someone to take the lead that is familiar with these peptide companies and make sure we get one that's legitimate. Then we can all send a little bit of money to this person in the mail. i mean 50 dollars from 20 people would be enough. we can do that! then we get someone willing to try it out first, have a knowledgable medical person give the injections and take pictures and viola! if it works we've got ourselves an underground treatment!! haha, what's stopping us from doing this?!




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Rob35

22.09.2011, 13:28

@ doubleC

Astressin-b clinical study results!

I think now we have enough people on board to try to organize it to and
buy
astressin b ourselves


^^ that's what I'm saying! we just need to get someone to take the lead
that is familiar with these peptide companies and make sure we get one
that's legitimate. Then we can all send a little bit of money to this
person in the mail. i mean 50 dollars from 20 people would be enough. we
can do that! then we get someone willing to try it out first, have a
knowledgable medical person give the injections and take pictures and
viola! if it works we've got ourselves an underground treatment!! haha,
what's stopping us from doing this?!

Let's get this thing rolling again. Get people on the list again and try to get some astressin b.
Great idea with derma roller I will try that with topical as soon it is out.




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Rob35

22.09.2011, 13:33

@ doubleC

Astressin-b clinical study results!

I think now we have enough people on board to try to organize it to and
buy
astressin b ourselves


^^ that's what I'm saying! we just need to get someone to take the lead
that is familiar with these peptide companies and make sure we get one
that's legitimate. Then we can all send a little bit of money to this
person in the mail. i mean 50 dollars from 20 people would be enough. we
can do that! then we get someone willing to try it out first, have a
knowledgable medical person give the injections and take pictures and
viola! if it works we've got ourselves an underground treatment!! haha,
what's stopping us from doing this?!


Let's get it started. I am in.




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doubleC

22.09.2011, 15:53

@ Rob35

Astressin-b clinical study results!

I think now we have enough people on board to try to organize it to
and
buy
astressin b ourselves

^^ that's what I'm saying! we just need to get someone to take the lead
that is familiar with these peptide companies and make sure we get one
that's legitimate. Then we can all send a little bit of money to this
person in the mail. i mean 50 dollars from 20 people would be enough. we
can do that! then we get someone willing to try it out first, have a
knowledgable medical person give the injections and take pictures and
viola! if it works we've got ourselves an underground treatment!! haha,
what's stopping us from doing this?!


Let's get it started. I am in.


We need two things:

1. a knowledgable, trustworthy leader to receive the money, order the stuff from a reputable place, and do enough research to properly administer the astressin-b.
2. a brave person to volunteer for the first round of shots!

Any takers or suggestions for either?




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xcrunner

22.09.2011, 17:38

@ doubleC

Astressin-b clinical study results!

I think now we have enough people on board to try to organize it to
and
buy
astressin b ourselves

^^ that's what I'm saying! we just need to get someone to take the
lead
that is familiar with these peptide companies and make sure we get one
that's legitimate. Then we can all send a little bit of money to this
person in the mail. i mean 50 dollars from 20 people would be enough.
we
can do that! then we get someone willing to try it out first, have a
knowledgable medical person give the injections and take pictures and
viola! if it works we've got ourselves an underground treatment!!
haha,
what's stopping us from doing this?!


Let's get it started. I am in.


We need two things:

1. a knowledgable, trustworthy leader to receive the money, order the stuff
from a reputable place, and do enough research to properly administer the
astressin-b.
2. a brave person to volunteer for the first round of shots
Any takers or suggestions for either?


Hi Guys,
I am 23 right now, and I have been losing har for about 4 years now, and frankly life sucks. I am definitely willig to volunteer for this...as long as I dont dont die or grow another hand or something. But we definitely need someone who knows what they are doing.





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doubleC

25.09.2011, 21:22

@ xcrunner

Astressin-b clinical study results!


Let's get it started. I am in.


We need two things:

1. a knowledgable, trustworthy leader to receive the money, order the
stuff
from a reputable place, and do enough research to properly administer
the
astressin-b.
2. a brave person to volunteer for the first round of shots
Any takers or suggestions for either?


Hi Guys,
I am 23 right now, and I have been losing har for about 4 years now, and
frankly life sucks. I am definitely willig to volunteer for this...as long
as I dont dont die or grow another hand or something. But we definitely
need someone who knows what they are doing.



Now we just need a leader!




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user458

08.10.2012, 23:30

@ doubleC

Astressin-b clinical study results!


Let's get it started. I am in.


We need two things:

1. a knowledgable, trustworthy leader to receive the money, order the
stuff
from a reputable place, and do enough research to properly administer
the
astressin-b.
2. a brave person to volunteer for the first round of shots
Any takers or suggestions for either?


Hi Guys,
I am 23 right now, and I have been losing har for about 4 years now, and
frankly life sucks. I am definitely willig to volunteer for this...as
long
as I dont dont die or grow another hand or something. But we definitely
need someone who knows what they are doing.



Now we just need a leader!

Looking at this thread, I'd just like to add something astressin b is a peptide that blocks the pathway for production of stress related hormones. The molar mass of the peptide has nothing to do with skin absorption.

In layman's terms, let us say in order for an event C to happen event B is has to occur and if factor X blocks B from happening event C will never happen.

You guys need to look at the original study before you draw any conclusions or thesis. Just for a heads up, the astressin b peptide was stored at a temperature of -80 degrees celsius and was diluted with water just before use. Unfortunately, the astressin being provided doesn't even meet the initial criteria.

If only I had the money, the resources and people willing to sacrifice (side effects can be fatal at times, we could probably get with this somewhere.

Also, here is a link to the original study, if it helps you.

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0016377#s4




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overthetop

09.10.2012, 20:29

@ user458

Astressin-b clinical study results!

The one thing about this whole thing that I cannot get my head around is how some small company came to own the rights to a peptide. I suppose I'm just speculating, but it seems to me the guys who now own it are just holding out for some rich player to come along and make something happen (and make them tons of money in the process). In the meantime I don't think they have any intention of doing anything with it themselves.

Also in the meantime, though is the fact that slowly but surely new products will be heading for the market over the coming years. So isn't this a factor for the owners of Astressin-B ? I mean what gives - are these guys going to continue to wait until what they have loses its value entirely ? I just don't get their thought process.




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TaKeeLa

09.10.2012, 21:13

@ overthetop

Astressin-b clinical study results!

The one thing about this whole thing that I cannot get my head around is
how some small company came to own the rights to a peptide. I suppose I'm
just speculating, but it seems to me the guys who now own it are just
holding out for some rich player to come along and make something happen
(and make them tons of money in the process). In the meantime I don't think
they have any intention of doing anything with it themselves.

Also in the meantime, though is the fact that slowly but surely new
products will be heading for the market over the coming years. So isn't
this a factor for the owners of Astressin-B ? I mean what gives - are these
guys going to continue to wait until what they have loses its value
entirely ? I just don't get their thought process.

Yes this is exactly what's happening. I've emailed and received back emails from Sentia themselves and they said they are waiting for someone to pick it up that can afford to do trials. What I suspect this means is exactly what your saying, they are just waiting for someone to buy out the rights to it.

I really hope someone does soon though, stress and the hormones involved with it have been proven to play so many roles in hair growth its not even funny. I don't know why it hasn't been investigated further.




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overthetop

10.10.2012, 07:59

@ TaKeeLa

Astressin-b clinical study results!

Yes this is exactly what's happening. I've emailed and received back emails
from Sentia themselves and they said they are waiting for someone to pick
it up that can afford to do trials. What I suspect this means is exactly
what your saying, they are just waiting for someone to buy out the rights
to it.

I really hope someone does soon though, stress and the hormones involved
with it have been proven to play so many roles in hair growth its not even
funny. I don't know why it hasn't been investigated further.

I'd be interested to know exactly how the rights ended up with these guys. I mean, did they fund the initial research ? I had the impression that was done in an academic setting, so I doubt that could be it.

Another weird thing is the trials that were supposed to happen but were somehow stopped. (I am guessing it was Sentia who blocked the trials). It wasn't clear exactly who was behind that either.

Also, during that same period there was some talk of a large company getting into it.

There are so many odd things about this, it's impossible to really know what happened. The only thing that seems clear is that nothing is happening now, and there doesn't seem to be much prospect of it either.

I would guess Sentia wants a lot of money for something that is really an unknown quantity in terms of its potential to deliver a working solution (and more importantly - to make money).

This is just how the system works right now. All business and all pretty messed up for the consumer.




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