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A shocking and surprising new medical paradigm... (Propecia, Avodart, Spiro, DHT & hormones ...)
» Bryan,
»
» Yep I read this paper as well as many others.
»
» To me the heading and first paragraph seem to argue against your
» interpretation; "More Questions than answers" and "....usually
» exhibiting hair growth inhibitory properties".
Also, notice their use of the word "surprising" when they first mention the growth stimulation of estrogen in their own experiment. That, together with the part about "More Questions than Answers...", is a simple acknowledgement of an affront to the authors' longstanding assumption (along with that of many others) that estrogen doesn't have an OPPOSITE effect on hair follicles (just like androgens do), depending on the specific site of the hair follicles. Give them a little credit for being extremely cautious and conservative when they come face-to-face with an entirely new medical paradigm!
Their wording doesn't "argue against" the evidence that they saw with their own eyes, it's just an acknowledgement of the surprise they felt from confronting such a completely new paradigm. Something completely different for THEM, anyway: Dr. Proctor has been discussing that issue for years on alt.baldspot (that androgens AND estrogens show paradoxically opposite site-specific effects on hair follicles)!
» What I dislike about this study as a basis of hard conclusions is that the
» sample count is 1 (ok maybe 2) and it doesn't even say if the guy was
» displaying MPB!
Oh, is THAT your only defense against all this evidence? That these 2 very carefully tested case studies (along with the many more subjects from the Kiesewetter studies, not to mention the countless examples of successful topical estrogen use from Europe) are just statistical flukes? Come on, GC, you can do better than that.
Well...I take that back: maybe that IS the best you can do!
Bryan is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
Complete thread:
- tamoxifen with avodart
- paperbag, 26.05.2007, 09:46
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- tamoxifen with avodart - steve, 28.05.2007, 03:48
- tamoxifen with avodart
- therapy, 28.05.2007, 18:16
- aromatase inhibitor (sp ??) - ipod, 29.05.2007, 23:15
- tamoxifen with avodart
- FIT2Btied, 07.06.2007, 14:45
- tamoxifen vs Arimidex (Anastrozole); E in general
- gc1961, 18.06.2007, 11:49
- tamoxifen vs Arimidex (Anastrozole); E in general
- HairSite, 18.06.2007, 12:05
- tamoxifen vs Arimidex (Anastrozole); E in general
- gc1961, 18.06.2007, 13:00
- generic Anastrozole)
- helpmeout, 18.06.2007, 14:23
- generic Anastrozole) - vard lenny, 06.12.2007, 22:45
- tamoxifen vs Arimidex (Anastrozole); E in general
- brm, 18.06.2007, 18:56
- tamoxifen vs Arimidex (Anastrozole); E in general
- gc1961, 19.06.2007, 14:09
- generic Anastrozole - helpmeout, 19.06.2007, 14:20
- tamoxifen vs Arimidex (Anastrozole); E in general
- brm, 19.06.2007, 14:56
- tamoxifen vs Arimidex (Anastrozole); E in general - gc1961, 20.06.2007, 08:13
- estradiol
- abcxyz, 19.06.2007, 16:04
- estradiol
- gc1961, 20.06.2007, 08:24
- estradiol
- therapy, 25.06.2007, 11:45
- estradiol - ipod, 26.06.2007, 11:20
- estradiol study
- HairSite Admin, 27.06.2007, 20:18
- estradiol study
- gc1961, 30.06.2007, 15:37
- estradiol study
- Bryan, 30.08.2007, 17:46
- My research - now please share yours!
- gc1961, 31.08.2007, 10:13
- My research - now please share yours!
- Bryan, 31.08.2007, 19:28
- My research - now please share yours!
- gc1961, 31.08.2007, 22:38
- My research - now please share yours! - Bryan, 03.09.2007, 08:37
- My research - now please share yours!
- gc1961, 31.08.2007, 22:38
- My research - now please share yours!
- Bryan, 03.09.2007, 08:18
- Estrogen stimulates the growth of scalp hair follicles!
- Bryan, 04.09.2007, 03:05
- Still more evidence for the beneficial effect of estrogen!
- Bryan, 05.09.2007, 20:31
- In the eye of the beholder....
- gc1961, 05.09.2007, 22:31
- A shocking and surprising new medical paradigm... - Bryan, 06.09.2007, 01:44
- Now I am confused....
- gc1961, 06.09.2007, 09:14
- Now I am confused....
- Bryan, 06.09.2007, 12:29
- Now I am confused....
- gc1961, 06.09.2007, 13:29
- Now I am confused....
- Bryan, 06.09.2007, 13:54
- CU again in 2 years then :-)
- gc1961, 06.09.2007, 16:41
- What other way is there to "interpret" the research?
- Bryan, 06.09.2007, 18:01
- What other way is there to "interpret" the research?
- gc1961, 06.09.2007, 19:44
- What other way is there to "interpret" the research?
- Bryan, 06.09.2007, 21:11
- Liar, liar pants are on fire!
- gc1961, 07.09.2007, 09:20
- What on earth are you talking about??
- Bryan, 07.09.2007, 14:50
- One small edit: - Bryan, 07.09.2007, 16:07
- What on earth are you talking about??
- Bryan, 07.09.2007, 14:50
- Liar, liar pants are on fire!
- gc1961, 07.09.2007, 09:20
- What other way is there to "interpret" the research?
- Bryan, 06.09.2007, 21:11
- What other way is there to "interpret" the research?
- gc1961, 06.09.2007, 19:44
- What other way is there to "interpret" the research?
- Bryan, 06.09.2007, 18:01
- CU again in 2 years then :-)
- gc1961, 06.09.2007, 16:41
- Now I am confused....
- Bryan, 06.09.2007, 13:54
- Now I am confused....
- gc1961, 06.09.2007, 13:29
- Now I am confused....
- Bryan, 06.09.2007, 12:29
- A shocking and surprising new medical paradigm...
- pproctor, 12.11.2007, 10:58
- A shocking and surprising new medical paradigm... - Jorge1977, 12.11.2007, 20:20
- Now I am confused....
- gc1961, 06.09.2007, 09:14
- A shocking and surprising new medical paradigm... - Bryan, 06.09.2007, 01:44
- In the eye of the beholder....
- gc1961, 05.09.2007, 22:31
- Still more evidence for the beneficial effect of estrogen!
- Bryan, 05.09.2007, 20:31
- Estrogen stimulates the growth of scalp hair follicles!
- Bryan, 04.09.2007, 03:05
- My research - now please share yours!
- Bryan, 31.08.2007, 19:28
- My research - now please share yours!
- gc1961, 31.08.2007, 10:13
- estradiol study
- Bryan, 30.08.2007, 17:46
- estradiol study
- gc1961, 30.06.2007, 15:37
- estradiol - trent05, 15.07.2007, 09:51
- estradiol
- Bryan, 30.08.2007, 17:38
- Reference - please share yours that promotes E as positive? - gc1961, 31.08.2007, 10:14
- estradiol
- therapy, 25.06.2007, 11:45
- estradiol
- gc1961, 20.06.2007, 08:24
- tamoxifen vs Arimidex (Anastrozole); E in general - Bryan, 30.08.2007, 19:45
- tamoxifen vs Arimidex (Anastrozole); E in general
- gc1961, 19.06.2007, 14:09
- generic Anastrozole)
- helpmeout, 18.06.2007, 14:23
- tamoxifen vs Arimidex (Anastrozole); E in general
- gc1961, 18.06.2007, 13:00
- tamoxifen vs Arimidex (Anastrozole); E in general
- Bryan, 30.08.2007, 19:05
- tamoxifen vs Arimidex (Anastrozole); E in general - ApeSmith, 31.08.2007, 01:58
- Byan, I'll show you mine, now show me yours, !!!!
- gc1961, 31.08.2007, 10:08
- Byan, I'll show you mine, now show me yours, !!!! - Bryan, 31.08.2007, 20:12
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- gc1961, 31.08.2007, 10:19
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Bryan, 31.08.2007, 20:08
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- gc1961, 31.08.2007, 22:44
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- brm, 02.09.2007, 16:44
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- gc1961, 04.09.2007, 13:49
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Nikolakis, 22.05.2008, 05:54
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- HairSite Admin, 22.05.2008, 09:01
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Nikolakis, 22.05.2008, 16:08
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Bryan, 23.05.2008, 00:14
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Nikolakis, 23.05.2008, 06:06
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Bryan, 23.05.2008, 12:02
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Nikolakis, 23.05.2008, 12:24
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- HairSite Admin, 23.05.2008, 14:49
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Nikolakis, 23.05.2008, 15:15
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- brm, 23.05.2008, 18:46
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Bryan, 23.05.2008, 19:11
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- brm, 23.05.2008, 19:41
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan? - Bryan, 23.05.2008, 20:59
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- brm, 23.05.2008, 19:41
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Bryan, 23.05.2008, 19:11
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- brm, 23.05.2008, 18:46
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Nikolakis, 23.05.2008, 15:15
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Bryan, 23.05.2008, 18:54
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Nikolakis, 23.05.2008, 19:30
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan? - Bryan, 24.05.2008, 04:39
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Nikolakis, 23.05.2008, 19:30
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- HairSite Admin, 23.05.2008, 14:49
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Nikolakis, 23.05.2008, 12:24
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Bryan, 23.05.2008, 12:02
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Nikolakis, 23.05.2008, 06:06
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Bryan, 23.05.2008, 00:14
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Nikolakis, 22.05.2008, 16:08
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- HairSite Admin, 22.05.2008, 09:01
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Nikolakis, 22.05.2008, 05:54
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- gc1961, 04.09.2007, 13:49
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- brm, 02.09.2007, 16:44
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- gc1961, 31.08.2007, 22:44
- Here is mine, where is your research Byan?
- Bryan, 31.08.2007, 20:08
- tamoxifen vs Arimidex (Anastrozole); E in general
- HairSite, 18.06.2007, 12:05
- tamoxifen vs Arimidex (Anastrozole); E in general
- gc1961, 18.06.2007, 11:49


