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The 4th week Update -- Thinking about going off of DUT because of side effects (Propecia, Avodart, Spiro, DHT & hormones ...)

posted by HanginInThere, 02.04.2008, 10:01

» » » I am going to start a log of my results on the following regime which
» I
» » am
» » » in the process of starting up. But first I have some questions that
» » are
» » » asked in the parantheses below:
» » »
» » » 0.5 Dutasteride daily
» » » Rogaine Foam 2x daily (should I only apply it to the crown and vertex
» » or
» » » also to my hairline)?
» » » Nizoral 2% cream (how often do people suggest?)
» » » 1g Lysine daily
» » » 2,000 mcg Biotin daily
» » » 4 g daily MSM
» » » 10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of growth
» » » hormone, especially in those who exercise)
» » » Multivitamin
» » »
» » » Any thoughts?
» »
» » I started this regime on March 4th, but started with Dut, and hadn't
» » received shipment until about a week ago on the Niz cream. I changed
» out
» » the Rogaine foam for Minoxidil 5% (from Costco) because people said the
» » foam seemed to cause their hair to fall out. So I guess could say this
» » should count as my first week on this full regime, but is my fourth
» week
» » on Dut.
» »
» » 0.5mg Dutasteride daily
» » Rogaine Foam 2x daily
» » Nizoral 2% cream usually once daily, sometimes twice
» » Nizoral 1% shampoo twice a week
» » 1g Lysine daily
» » 1 tablet of Maxi Hair
» » 3 g daily MSM
» » 10g of L-Arginine (this is said to stimulate the release of growth
» » hormone, especially in those who exercise)
» » Multivitamin
» » 6-8 grams of Fish Oil
» »
» » RESULTS/EFFECTS: PLUS: Hair starting to come in on the right temple,
» » probably the left one too (I haven't looked that closely). I don't see
» any
» » particular effect on my hairline further up, but I am not bothering to
» look
» » that closely until I am a few months into this thing. This is lighter
» color
» » peach fuzz type hair, I guess that's called vellus. It's very short,
» but
» » growing longer and in a minor way thicker. PLUS: scalp itch almost
» » non-existent, I had forgotten how it was to have a non-itchy scalp.
» This
» » is actually huge in terms of better comfort, and I am convinced that
» scalp
» » itch and hair loss correlate significantly. I had the greatest scalp
» itch
» » in the same place on my right side where I had the greatest recession
» --
» » i.e. at the top of the temple going back up to the vertex -- sort of a
» » David Letterman-type look. MINUS: I'm a little dead downstairs and this
» » wouldn't be acceptable were I not in a personal situation where it's
» » probably for the better. I can function, but I have less ejaculate.
» MINUS:
» » Strange feeling in the head sometimes. It goes away when I exercise more
» or
» » less. I had some headaches at first, but those are gone. NEUTRAL: Is
» » enhanced testosterone making me somewhat more aggressive?
»
»
»
» DUT makes me dopey. I have slight headaches. It's definitely having
» neurological effects. I don't mind the sexual side effects which have
» been subsiding. But I am wondering if I erred in going straight to the
» hard stuff -- DUT -- rather than trying higher doses of Saw Palmetto or
» trying Finasteride. This just can't be good for a person to feel the
» head-in-the-vise feelings I am feeling. What I'll really miss, if I do go
» off of it, is the lack of scalp itch. I haven't been exercising, but when
» I do exercise the effects on my head seem to be less. I am going to make
» sure I exercise everyday for a week and if I don't feel better, it's going
» to be Finasteride or more Saw P. instead

i would go off the DUT for sure, lots of complaints of side effects

as far as Prop i would wait, and try more of a mixture of naturals instead of increasing dosage of SP
SP is a very weak 5 ar inhibitor

I would say, mix up the SP , pygeum nettles beta sis , etc

beta sis is 3000 times more powerful than SP
google beta sitosterol 3000 and watch what comes up


HanginInThere is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

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Hangin Regimen...........

Maxi Hair by Country Life 2/day
Kal Amino Max ..Chelated Multi Mineral..2/day

DHT blockers (daily intake)
Saw Palmetto, 320mg Standardized
Pygeum 500mg
Nettles 500mg
Beta Sitosterol 125mg
2% Nizoral Cream Topically Nightly,,,after Shampoo

Complete thread:

• Dutasteride, Rogaine, Nizoral, Lysine, Biotin, Exercise, L-Arginine - Goingallout, 13.03.2008, 23:36
  • 1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results - Goingallout, 14.03.2008, 00:20
    • 1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results - dave21, 14.03.2008, 02:39
      • 1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results - Goingallout, 14.03.2008, 03:01
        • 1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results - brm, 14.03.2008, 12:51
          • 1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results - Goingallout, 14.03.2008, 14:54
            • 1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results - brm, 15.03.2008, 00:52
              • 1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results - Goingallout, 15.03.2008, 03:17
                • 1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results - Bryan, 16.03.2008, 11:17
                  • 1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results - Goingallout, 16.03.2008, 13:19
                    • 1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results - Bryan, 18.03.2008, 13:17
                      • 1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results - Goingallout, 21.03.2008, 11:54
                    • 1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results - HanginInThere, 20.03.2008, 12:36
                      • Hangin': so you're saying Ultra Hair is better than Maxi Hair? - vivace67, 23.03.2008, 10:39
                        • Hangin': so you're saying Ultra Hair is better than Maxi Hair? - HanginInThere, 23.03.2008, 19:01
                        • Here is a side by side comparison - HanginInThere, 23.03.2008, 19:19
                        • More Detailed side by side - HanginInThere, 23.03.2008, 20:46
                      • 1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results - Goingallout, 23.03.2008, 13:39
                        • 1st Week, Physical Effects, No Results - HanginInThere, 23.03.2008, 19:05
  • 3rd week report -- Minor sexual issues, no effects, not staying consistent. - Goingallout, 21.03.2008, 12:09
    • 3rd week report -- Minor sexual issues, no effects, not staying consistent. - vivace67, 23.03.2008, 11:06
      • 3rd week report -- Minor sexual issues, no effects, not staying consistent. - Goingallout, 23.03.2008, 13:26
        • Goingallout: Re: Laser Comb - vivace67, 30.03.2008, 14:27
        • 3rd week report -- Minor sexual issues, no effects, not staying consistent. - vivace67, 30.03.2008, 14:36
  • Another 3rd Week Report: Nizoral Cream Relieves Itch, Hair Growth in Temples? - Goingallout, 23.03.2008, 23:36
    • Another 3rd Week Report: Nizoral Cream Relieves Itch, Hair Growth in Temples? - HanginInThere, 24.03.2008, 00:30
      • Another 3rd Week Report: Nizoral Cream Relieves Itch, Hair Growth in Temples? - Goingallout, 24.03.2008, 15:23
        • Another 3rd Week Report: Nizoral Cream Relieves Itch, Hair Growth in Temples? - HanginInThere, 24.03.2008, 16:33
          • Another 3rd Week Report: Nizoral Cream Relieves Itch, Hair Growth in Temples? - Goingallout, 24.03.2008, 19:06
            • Another 3rd Week Report: Nizoral Cream Relieves Itch, Hair Growth in Temples? - HanginInThere, 24.03.2008, 20:32
              • Another 3rd Week Report: Nizoral Cream Relieves Itch, Hair Growth in Temples? - Goingallout, 24.03.2008, 22:47
                • Another 3rd Week Report: Nizoral Cream Relieves Itch, Hair Growth in Temples? - HanginInThere, 24.03.2008, 23:46
                  • Another 3rd Week Report: Nizoral Cream Relieves Itch, Hair Growth in Temples? - Goingallout, 25.03.2008, 10:04
  • The 4th week Update - Goingallout, 27.03.2008, 13:56
    • The 4th week Update -- Thinking about going off of DUT because of side effects - Goingallout, 01.04.2008, 20:51
      • The 4th week Update -- Thinking about going off of DUT because of side effects - HanginInThere, 02.04.2008, 10:01
        • The 4th week Update -- Thinking about going off of DUT because of side effects - brm, 02.04.2008, 15:31
  • 5th week update: headaches stopped, libido getting better, no scalp itch - Goingallout, 07.04.2008, 12:31
  • 6th Week Update: What makes this worth all the hassle - Goingallout, 15.04.2008, 11:39
    • 6th Week Update: What makes this worth all the hassle - brm, 16.04.2008, 22:03
      • 6th Week Update: What makes this worth all the hassle - Goingallout, 16.04.2008, 22:15
        • 6th Week Update: What makes this worth all the hassle - Goingallout, 16.04.2008, 22:17
  • 8th Week: I've found it -- i.e.what works for me - Goingallout, 27.04.2008, 18:56
  • 12th Week Update: Taking a Break - Goingallout, 02.06.2008, 18:09
    • you need to get off all the drugs - HanginInThere, 04.06.2008, 07:08
      • you need to get off all the drugs - brm, 04.06.2008, 16:31
        • you need to get off all the drugs - Ergh, 04.06.2008, 22:46
        • n/t - Ergh, 04.06.2008, 22:46
        • you need to get off all the drugs - HanginInThere, 04.06.2008, 23:54
          • you need to get off all the drugs - Ergh, 05.06.2008, 00:08
            • you need to get off all the drugs - HanginInThere, 05.06.2008, 01:09
              • I Need To Take More Drugs! - Ergh, 05.06.2008, 07:40
                • I Need To Take More Drugs! - HanginInThere, 05.06.2008, 09:46
                  • I Need To Take More Drugs! - Ergh, 05.06.2008, 20:54
                    • I Need To Take More Drugs! - HanginInThere, 06.06.2008, 01:26
                    • I Need To Take More Drugs! - Ergh, 07.06.2008, 01:37
              • you need to get off all the drugs - Ergh, 05.06.2008, 10:43
      • you need to get off all the drugs - Goingallout, 05.06.2008, 11:34