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L Carnitine with DMSO (Topicals)

posted by Goingallout, 06.05.2008, 21:38

ť I've been experimenting for several weeks now. Here's the summary of what
ť I've discovered:
ť
ť Don't use L-Carnitine liquid solution that has Sorbitol in it (it is super
ť greasy/sticky). I bought L-Carnitine Tartrate capsules from BestVite.com.
ť Try not to dissolve too many capsule contents into solution. Start small. I
ť use distilled water for mixing my l-carnitine tartrate and DMSO solution,
ť because that is what was used to originally dilute my DMSO solution to 70%
ť that I bought.
ť
ť DMSO 20% solution is probably overkill, I've been using closer to 10% and
ť noticed the "aftertaste" is much less severe.(resembles morning breath with
ť oysterish (not fishy) aftertaste) Not as bad as everybody makes it out to
ť be.
ť
ť I originally started twice daily DMSO/l-carnitine and then
ť DMSO/l-carnitine tartrate solution and stopped minoxidil totally. I didn't
ť notice any hair loss increase, but after several weeks, didn't notice any
ť sign of new growth and couldn't tell for sure if the balding wasn't getting
ť worse. I panicked and started a regime of morning Minoxidil and evening
ť DMSO/L-carnitine tartrate solution. I've also decided to add a smidge of
ť DMSO 5% concentration to my minoxidil solution just for kicks.
ť
ť I'm thinking about mixing a capsules worth of L-carnitine tartrate to my
ť minoxidil solution, but was waiting to see how current regime works. I'll
ť keep you posted. How long do you think results would be expected, if at
ť all.
ť
ť I am familiar with Rowan's work and don't believe he'd publish something
ť in his newsletter just for kicks and he doesn't sell stuff(except his
ť newsletter and his MD services.)
ť
ť I'm new here, are there any other successful treatments being used/passed
ť around?

My regime involves:

Topical Dutasteride
Minoxidil 5% wtih Carnitine Tartrate mixed in
Beta sitosterol
Saw Palmetto
Nizoral Cream
Maxi Hair
MSM
Multivitamins
Fish Oil
LEF Super Miraforte
Lysine
Zinc

This is why my username is "Goingallout."

I've seen significant growth coming in on the temples after having been on this regime since early March, 2008. I would guess that there is growth coming in all over my scalp, but I have a decent covering still so I can't see it (though thinning which is why I am on this regime).

The other thing is I have a fair degree of sprouting of really thin hairs that are hard to see unless they are reflected in the light. Some of them are getting long, but others are quite short. The result is that there are practically no truly visible improvements in growth, but if the hairs that are growing in begin to thicken up this will change significantly --i.e. there will be a clearly visible thickening.

If you look at the posting by HairSite Admin under the heading Nizoral Shampoo in this forum/index, it says that the best results are with the likes of Finasteride and Minoxidil in combination and that Minoxidil alone is not as effective. A lot of people will tell you not to touch Dutasteride, and it's true that on Dutasteride oral I had some unwanted side effects. I have switched to administering it topically and I think I am getting a stronger effect in terms of DHT suppression at the scalp than I would with anything else. My hair has been growing the quickest with this.

Overall, my conclusion:

- Take minoxidil in combination with other things.
- I recommend Dutasteride topical (mixed with Aloe Vera), but others will strongly disagree with me. And finasteride would be worth trying.
- Be patient.

Regarding the last point: I am not really expecting that this regime will have paid off the way it is supposed to (assuming it will pay off) until after about 6-12 months. I am getting growth and I think I may be getting less fall-out, though I didn't have a lot of fall-out before. The outstanding question will be are the improvements I am getting in growth and/or reduced loss worth the hassle and expense? Even assuming I am really pleased with the results after a year, another question: how long will these results be able to be maintained before they start to degrade.

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Complete thread:

L Carnitine with DMSO - robbyx, 01.04.2008, 09:18 (Topicals)
- L Carnitine with DMSO - Goingallout, 01.04.2008, 12:35
  - L Carnitine with DMSO - robbyx, 01.04.2008, 13:42
    - L Carnitine with DMSO - rooster, 01.04.2008, 13:48
  - L Carnitine with DMSO - ApeSmith, 01.04.2008, 15:26
    - L Carnitine with DMSO - Goingallout, 01.04.2008, 17:15
- L Carnitine with DMSO - Goingallout, 01.04.2008, 17:37
- Does DMSO smell like rotten garlic? - Goingallout, 01.04.2008, 17:37
  - Does DMSO smell like rotten garlic? - ApeSmith, 01.04.2008, 20:47
    - Does DMSO smell like rotten garlic? - Goingallout, 01.04.2008, 20:49
      - Does DMSO smell like rotten garlic? - robbyx, 03.04.2008, 08:38
      - Does DMSO smell like rotten garlic? - Baccy, 27.05.2008, 07:02
    - Does DMSO smell like rotten garlic? - HairSite Admin, 18.04.2008, 14:04
- L Carnitine with DMSO - Goingallout, 02.04.2008, 00:43
  - L Carnitine with DMSO - brm, 02.04.2008, 11:43
    - Very Good Call, BRM - Goingallout, 02.04.2008, 12:05
      - Very Good Call, BRM - robbyx, 03.04.2008, 08:34
        Very Good Call, BRM - cliveg, 16.04.2008, 14:19
        Very Good Call, BRM - Goingallout, 16.04.2008, 14:33
        Very Good Call, BRM - cliveg, 18.04.2008, 13:03
        Very Good Call, BRM - Goingallout, 16.04.2008, 14:27
- L Carnitine with DMSO - coreydm, 30.04.2008, 00:00
  - L Carnitine with DMSO - Goingallout, 06.05.2008, 21:38
    - To Goingallout - RNORAM, 17.05.2008, 13:47

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