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secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape (Hair Transplant)
» aFranklin- It was premature on the part of any doc to offer clinical FUE
» back in 2000. It’s premature now for any clinic to offer FUE megasessions
» in 2008.
»
» Sux- Are making up statistics and attacking me personally really going to
» help anyone reading this post? Come on, you’re better than that. Besides, I
» never liked ice cream. Let’s get back on track:
»
» Your wrote with respect to Dr. Woods:
» “ When you're getting the same or better yield as the top strip docs of
» the world (over 90%), which they do…”
» Where did you get this incredible statistic? I’ve not seen any evidence to
» support this. In fact, I’ve not even seen Dr. Woods himself make such a
» grand statement.
»
» Dr. Woods-
» I only get interested in particular competitors when they make
» questionable claims or intimations. You claim loudly that your technique is
» better than the FUE technique of any competitor. That may or may not be
» true. I simply challenge your claim. If you are going to go public with
» such a pronouncement, then I can certainly challenge it on a public forum.
» Which I have done, and continue to do. To date you have only attacked me
» instead of supporting your claim.
»
» I wonder, for all your “patient’s rights” rhetoric, do you provide
» complete “Informed Consent”? Specifically, the fact that FUE grafts must
» undergo 3 traumatic forces that strip grafts never endure:
» 1. Torsion
» 2. Traction
» 3. Compression
» (and a few other minor ones).
»
» For those of you out there who have wondered why FUE has not yet put an
» end to STRIP, it is because of these 3 detrimental forces. In the best of
» hands these forces are minimized, that’s what my patents are all about, but
» even so, yields are STILL lower than with strip surgery and is why I
» believe that if large procedures are needed, they should be done with
» strip, not FUE. ( The exception, of course, being patients like Franklin
» who would rather never have a strip surgery again. That’s a different
» matter).
»
» Personally, I couldn’t care less what techniques Dr. Woods uses. I doubt
» they are revolutionary or even interesting. But if he is going to claim
» superiority in this field, he is going to have start by at least telling
» his patients before surgery the true differences between strip surgery and
» FUE surgery. Specifically, the limitations of FUE surgery.
»
» Well, Dr. Woods. How about it? Do you inform your patients of these three
» destructive FUE forces prior to surgery? 1. Torsion 2. Traction 3.
» Compression ?
»
» You see, HT doctors do not make patients sign “waivers” as Dr. Woods loves
» to claim in his never ending effort to vilify other HT doctors. What he
» clearly doesn’t understand is that patients CAN’T “waive” their rights.
» That’s what makes them “rights”. And what he calls “rights” aren’t actually
» “rights”.
»
» What HT doctors actually give patients is an INFORMED CONSENT document
» that TELL them what possible problems they might face should they decide to
» go ahead with a procedure. It also INFORMS them, specifically, of the
» downside of any procedure and that ALTERNATIVE treatments were discussed
» (in some states). The three detrimental forces of FUE and their resulting
» lower yields for FUE procedures must be included to have offered full
» informed consent.
»
» Bverotti,
» Does your doctor give informed consent that makes it clear that FUE yields
» are consistently lower than strip yields because of 1. Torsion 2.
» Traction 3. Compression ?
» Does your doctor inform patients of this during consultation?
»
» Dr. Woods,
» Do you inform your patients of the detrimental forces FUE grafts must
» endure when compared to strip dissection? Or do you claim that your
» particular FUE technique does not inflict the three detrimental forces of
» 1. Torsion 2. Traction 3. Compression ?
»
» Even your most dedicated supporter will be waiting for your answer.
With these forces playing a major role, 1. Torsion
2. Traction
3. Compression
(and a few other minor ones). Is this part of the reason why BHT makes it hard to bring about regrowth?
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- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Dr. Woods, 17.05.2008, 01:54 (Hair Transplant)
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- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- tel baker, 17.05.2008, 07:18
- tel baker
- Dr. Arvind, 17.05.2008, 09:49
- tel baker
- marco, 17.05.2008, 21:16
- Marco - Franklin, 17.05.2008, 21:38
- tel baker - readyfreddy, 17.05.2008, 21:42
- tel baker
- Dr. Arvind, 20.05.2008, 16:31
- thanks /NT - marco, 20.05.2008, 17:06
- marco andforum readers - Dr. Arvind, 20.05.2008, 16:57
- tel baker
- marco, 17.05.2008, 21:16
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- ipod, 17.05.2008, 14:09
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- HanginInThere, 17.05.2008, 14:25
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Wylie, 17.05.2008, 14:52
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- bigmac, 17.05.2008, 15:47
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - mwinston, 17.05.2008, 16:16
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- HMorHT, 17.05.2008, 17:14
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - mwinston, 17.05.2008, 19:43
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- bigmac, 17.05.2008, 15:47
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Wylie, 17.05.2008, 14:52
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- HanginInThere, 17.05.2008, 14:25
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - johnp, 17.05.2008, 21:08
- Threats
- bverotti, 18.05.2008, 06:03
- Threats - reiner, 18.05.2008, 13:18
- Threats - Dens1, 26.05.2008, 16:04
- tel baker
- Dr. Arvind, 17.05.2008, 09:49
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Dr. Feller, 17.05.2008, 22:50
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - Franklin, 17.05.2008, 23:55
- video - craig, 18.05.2008, 00:00
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - Franklin, 18.05.2008, 00:29
- oh Dr Feller.... - sux2bme, 18.05.2008, 04:31
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - HMorHT, 18.05.2008, 12:16
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Mr. Frodo, 18.05.2008, 15:14
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Dr. Woods, 19.05.2008, 12:00
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- reiner, 19.05.2008, 12:37
- No threats about patent instruments
- bverotti, 19.05.2008, 16:30
- No threats about patent instruments
- johnp, 19.05.2008, 16:34
- Coicidence or.... - sux2bme, 19.05.2008, 20:14
- No threats about patent instruments
- johnp, 19.05.2008, 16:34
- No threats about patent instruments
- bverotti, 19.05.2008, 16:30
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Dr. Feller, 19.05.2008, 19:59
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- sux2bme, 19.05.2008, 20:42
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - Franklin, 19.05.2008, 20:57
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Franklin, 19.05.2008, 20:52
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Dr. Woods, 20.05.2008, 11:12
- secrecy , hipocricy , and videotape - sux2bme, 20.05.2008, 14:28
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- marco, 20.05.2008, 15:40
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Franklin, 20.05.2008, 16:36
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- marco, 20.05.2008, 17:10
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - Franklin, 20.05.2008, 17:43
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- marco, 20.05.2008, 17:10
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Dr. Arvind, 21.05.2008, 07:23
- Thanks again - marco, 21.05.2008, 10:53
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Franklin, 20.05.2008, 16:36
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - Dr. Feller, 20.05.2008, 16:05
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - Dr. Feller, 20.05.2008, 16:06
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - the B spot, 18.06.2008, 23:24
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Dr. Woods, 20.05.2008, 11:12
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- sux2bme, 19.05.2008, 20:42
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Dr. Feller, 20.05.2008, 10:51
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - dave21, 20.05.2008, 16:00
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Dr. Feller, 20.05.2008, 16:23
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Franklin, 20.05.2008, 17:57
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Dr. Feller, 20.05.2008, 19:26
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - AqueousSoln, 20.05.2008, 19:58
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - wookie, 22.05.2008, 15:42
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Dr. Feller, 20.05.2008, 19:26
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- AqueousSoln, 20.05.2008, 20:11
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Dr. Feller, 20.05.2008, 20:54
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- AqueousSoln, 20.05.2008, 21:46
- another voice of reason...
- sux2bme, 21.05.2008, 01:06
- I made an error - Dr. Woods, 21.05.2008, 05:06
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Dr. Feller, 21.05.2008, 12:36
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- marco, 21.05.2008, 13:27
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - Dr. Feller, 21.05.2008, 16:55
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- HanginInThere, 21.05.2008, 15:44
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Dr. Feller, 21.05.2008, 16:51
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - marco, 21.05.2008, 16:59
- Hanginthere your a funny man!
- BALDIE42, 21.05.2008, 17:25
- Hanginthere your a funny man!
- HanginInThere, 21.05.2008, 17:31
- Hanginthere your a funny man!
- Dr. Woods, 22.05.2008, 03:33
- Hanginthere your a funny man!
- bigmac, 22.05.2008, 04:28
- Hanginthere your a funny man!
- Franklin, 22.05.2008, 09:44
- Hanginthere your a funny man!
- canadadry, 22.05.2008, 09:56
- Hanginthere your a funny man!
- topcat611, 22.05.2008, 10:44
- Hanginthere your a funny man! - AqueousSoln, 22.05.2008, 11:23
- canadadry
- Dr. Woods, 22.05.2008, 10:52
- canadadry
- canadadry, 29.05.2008, 10:58
- secrecy, hypocrisy and video tape - Dr. Woods, 29.05.2008, 22:36
- canadadry
- canadadry, 29.05.2008, 10:58
- Hanginthere your a funny man!
- topcat611, 22.05.2008, 10:44
- Hanginthere your a funny man!
- canadadry, 22.05.2008, 09:56
- Hanginthere your a funny man!
- Franklin, 22.05.2008, 09:44
- awesome - sux2bme, 22.05.2008, 06:26
- Patient First Philosophy
- AqueousSoln, 22.05.2008, 11:43
- Patient First Philosophy
- Jtelecom, 22.05.2008, 13:41
- Patient First Philosophy - Franklin, 22.05.2008, 15:48
- Patient First Philosophy
- AqueousSoln, 22.05.2008, 16:39
- Patient First Philosophy - Jtelecom, 22.05.2008, 19:13
- Patient First Philosophy
- Jtelecom, 22.05.2008, 13:41
- Hanginthere your a funny man!
- bigmac, 22.05.2008, 04:28
- Hanginthere your a funny man!
- superflyhairguy, 27.05.2008, 12:35
- Hanginthere your a funny man! - HanginInThere, 27.05.2008, 21:28
- Hanginthere your a funny man!
- Dr. Woods, 22.05.2008, 03:33
- Hanginthere your a funny man!
- HanginInThere, 21.05.2008, 17:31
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- superflyhairguy, 23.05.2008, 12:40
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- HanginInThere, 28.05.2008, 22:24
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- superflyhairguy, 29.05.2008, 07:48
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- HanginInThere, 29.05.2008, 07:54
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - superflyhairguy, 29.05.2008, 08:31
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- HanginInThere, 29.05.2008, 07:54
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- superflyhairguy, 29.05.2008, 07:48
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- HanginInThere, 28.05.2008, 22:24
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Dr. Feller, 21.05.2008, 16:51
- Dr. Feller
- AqueousSoln, 22.05.2008, 12:46
- Dr. Feller
- nwone, 22.05.2008, 20:53
- Dr. Feller - bverotti, 23.05.2008, 04:28
- Dr. Feller - bigmac, 23.05.2008, 04:36
- Dr. Feller
- nwone, 22.05.2008, 20:53
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- marco, 21.05.2008, 13:27
- another voice of reason...
- sux2bme, 21.05.2008, 01:06
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- AqueousSoln, 20.05.2008, 21:46
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Dr. Feller, 20.05.2008, 20:54
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Franklin, 20.05.2008, 17:57
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Dr. Feller, 20.05.2008, 16:23
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - dave21, 20.05.2008, 16:00
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- therapy, 26.05.2008, 18:08
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - HMorHT, 26.05.2008, 21:06
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- superflyhairguy, 27.05.2008, 08:59
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- HanginInThere, 28.05.2008, 10:12
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape - superflyhairguy, 28.05.2008, 11:39
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- ixan, 28.05.2008, 21:43
- secrecy , hypocrisy , and videotape
- Dr. Woods, 07.06.2008, 10:50
- secrecy , hypocrisy , and videotape
- therapy, 07.06.2008, 14:36
- lives are ruined indeed
- bverotti, 08.06.2008, 05:41
- lives are ruined indeed - rev, 08.06.2008, 07:21
- secrecy , hypocrisy , and videotape
- Dr. Woods, 10.06.2008, 06:28
- secrecy , hypocrisy , and videotape
- superflyhairguy, 10.06.2008, 18:26
- secrecy , hypocrisy , and videotape
- Dr. Woods, 12.06.2008, 23:09
- secrecy , hypocrisy , and videotape - superflyhairguy, 13.06.2008, 13:59
- mel gibson and bruce willis - craig, 14.06.2008, 20:11
- secrecy , hypocrisy , and videotape
- Dr. Woods, 12.06.2008, 23:09
- secrecy , hypocrisy , and videotape
- marco, 14.06.2008, 18:36
- secrecy , hypocrisy , and videotape
- Dr. Woods, 15.06.2008, 09:36
- secrecy , hypocrisy , and videotape
- marco, 15.06.2008, 16:18
- Torsion, Traction, Compression
- Travis Bickle, 18.06.2008, 03:26
- Torsion, Traction, Compression
- rev, 18.06.2008, 04:48
- Torsion, Traction, Compression - NeverAgain, 19.06.2008, 11:54
- Torsion, Traction, Compression
- bigmac, 18.06.2008, 06:54
- Torsion, Traction, Compression - rev, 18.06.2008, 22:27
- Torsion, Traction, Compression
- rev, 18.06.2008, 04:48
- Torsion, Traction, Compression
- Travis Bickle, 18.06.2008, 03:26
- secrecy , hypocrisy , and videotape
- marco, 15.06.2008, 16:18
- secrecy , hypocrisy , and videotape
- Dr. Woods, 15.06.2008, 09:36
- secrecy , hypocrisy , and videotape
- superflyhairguy, 10.06.2008, 18:26
- lives are ruined indeed
- bverotti, 08.06.2008, 05:41
- secrecy , hypocrisy , and videotape
- therapy, 07.06.2008, 14:36
- secrecy , hypocrisy , and videotape
- Dr. Woods, 07.06.2008, 10:50
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- HanginInThere, 28.05.2008, 10:12
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- reiner, 19.05.2008, 12:37
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- Dr. Woods, 19.05.2008, 12:00
- secrecy , hypocricy , and videotape
- tel baker, 17.05.2008, 07:18

