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» » Even worse, the studies with topical flutamide
» » in animals have shown very serious problems with
» » systemic absorption of the drug.
»
» It is well known that flutamide has a relatively high rate of percutaneous
» absorption (16% in the study you are undoubtedly referring to, Katchen,
» 1976), but those studies were using the dosage level for oncologic
» indications (pro-rated in animal models from a base of 750 mg in humans).
» In subsequent years, investigators have titrated the dose downward to
» determine its safe level for nononcologic use. These series of studies
» were conducted by Muderris in 1999 and 2000, who found that using levels
» <250 mg were entirely safe (we use the very lowest dose Muderris found that
» was still effective at 62.5 mg and created the topical equivalent, which
» results in a systemic absorption of only 10.3 mg--far below the level that
» produces any systemic effect).
I'm pleased to know that the ABSOLUTE quantity of absorbed flutamide from a typical application/dose of your product is probably low enough not to present any obvious toxic symptoms, but nevertheless I was mainly referring in my post above to the animal studies(1,2) showing that topically-applied flutamide works entirely by SYSTEMIC absorption. In other words, I'm not aware of any scientific studies showing a "local" effect of topical flutamide except for that one Sintov study, and I don't consider that one to be entirely persuasive. Do you and your company realize that what you're doing is putting out a VERY expensive product which uses a potentially VERY toxic drug which is based on exactly ONE rather questionable animal experiment claiming a certain degree of "local" efficacy?
1) "Local and systemic reduction by topical finasteride or flutamide of hamster flank organ size and enzyme activity." J Invest Dermatol 1995 Nov;105(5):678-82.
2) "The effects of a nonsteroid antiandrogen, flutamide, on sebaceous gland activity". J Invest Dermatol 64:412-417, 1975.
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- Let's carefully specify the meaning of a "local" effect!
- Bryan, 25.05.2008, 19:20
- Let's carefully specify the meaning of a "local" effect!
- RonLev, 25.05.2008, 20:08
- Let's carefully specify the meaning of a "local" effect!
- Bryan, 25.05.2008, 21:19
- Let's carefully specify the meaning of a "local" effect!
- RonLev, 25.05.2008, 22:03
- Ron Lev, topical flutamide robbed me of hard ons............
- benji, 26.05.2008, 00:16
- Ron Lev, topical flutamide robbed me of hard ons............ - RonLev, 26.05.2008, 11:43
- Let's carefully specify the meaning of a "local" effect!
- Bryan, 26.05.2008, 00:52
- Let's carefully specify the meaning of a "local" effect!
- RonLev, 26.05.2008, 11:29
- Let's carefully specify the meaning of a "local" effect!
- Bryan, 26.05.2008, 14:48
- Topical FLUTAMIDE will rob you of erections. It did to me - benji, 26.05.2008, 16:48
- Let's carefully specify the meaning of a "local" effect!
- RonLev, 27.05.2008, 16:52
- NOBODY IS CLAIMING Dutasteride or Finasteride only have local effects
- benji, 27.05.2008, 18:39
- NOBODY IS CLAIMING Dutasteride or Finasteride only have local effects
- RonLev, 27.05.2008, 20:55
- RonLev is lying about my side effects with FLUTAMIDE - benji, 27.05.2008, 23:36
- NOBODY IS CLAIMING Dutasteride or Finasteride only have local effects
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- Let's carefully specify the meaning of a "local" effect!
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- RonLev, why aren't you answering my questions?
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- Let's carefully specify the meaning of a "local" effect!
- RonLev, 30.05.2008, 20:27
- Let's carefully specify the meaning of a "local" effect!
- RonLev, 28.05.2008, 12:11
- NOBODY IS CLAIMING Dutasteride or Finasteride only have local effects
- benji, 27.05.2008, 18:39
- Let's carefully specify the meaning of a "local" effect!
- Bryan, 26.05.2008, 14:48
- Let's carefully specify the meaning of a "local" effect!
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- Ron Lev, topical flutamide robbed me of hard ons............
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- Let's carefully specify the meaning of a "local" effect!
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- Let's carefully specify the meaning of a "local" effect!
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- Let's carefully specify the meaning of a "local" effect!
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- Too bad flutamide gives you the limp-noodle.....because it works
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- Too bad flutamide gives you the limp-noodle.....because it works
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