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did Washenik speak at the ISHRS? (Hair Loss Research & Clinical Trials)
» » Histogen presented their 5 month data at the conference and the data so
» » far looks very good, but Rassman chose to ignore that point in his post
» » (probably because technically what follica and histogen are doing is
» not
» » hair clonning, but on the other hand what ICX and adernas are doing is
» not
» » cloning but multiplication which seems to be exceptably interchangable
» » phrases in hair restoration).
»
» No way. Histogen didn't present the 5-month data, but rather the old 12
» week data. I asked Dr. Naughton via email, about this point, but she didn't
» answer to this question in her reply (she said she would answer later, with
» an official answer, but I am still waiting).
»
»
» »» We can take it from this info that Rassmans insight comes from Farjo
» and
» » Gho only, who we all know failed along time ago.
»
» I think Washenik was also at the conference, I don't know if he
» intervened. Anyone knows?
I just checked and your right it is just the 12 week data, thats a bit strange.
I assumed they would be showing the 24 week data seeing as the trial concluded a while ago and thats what we were led to believe they were presenting.
Maybe they will show aditional info from the end of the trial in the next few weeks? It finished weeks ago.
How long have you been waiting for a reply?
The 12 week data is still good news though in my opinion and they said that there was no safety issues and good efficiacy at the end of the 24 weeks so thats a good sign.
Washenik was there according to the programme as the 'program chair'(I don't think he was there on the same days as Rassmans discusions though), he also introduced the discusion of current non surgical and medical treatments, which was a review of current treatments such as minoxidil and treatments being studied such as dutasteride.
I doubt he would have given any information on Aderans trials seeing as they only recently started phase II and he was more like a host.
If you look here, page 11, http://www.ishrs.org/PDF/Prelim02_2009ASM_FULL.pdf
The discusion on HM was carried out by;
William Rassman as moderator,
Bassam Farjo,
Takashi Hirayama,
Demkerng Pathaomvanich
and
Coen Gho
We all know about Gho's failure with HM and Farjo was overseeing ICX trial , however I have no Idea who the others are.
Bassam Farjo also participated in the discussion on growth factors amoung others and Nilofer Farjo also did and extra program on Cell therapy in hair restoration.
I think in Rassmans original post he was reffering to the companies he is aware of trials not going so well and HM being 10 years away at least, not that it's an unlikely guess.
TheOne is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO
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