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Dr Umar

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Redondo Beach, California,
28.12.2007, 05:53
 

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months (Hair Transplant)

“Joe Schmoe” is well known to the forum readership. He has a history of prior FUE and BHT at another facility involving mainly the hairline, frontal scalp and crown.

He wanted his hairline softened and the shape and direction streamlined to taste. The aim is for a subtle but evident change in the hairline.
He also wanted density added to the mid scalp.

7 months ago he underwent a 3000 SFET procedure to achieve the above stated objectives.

The breakdown of the donor sources were as follows:

Head donor: 1293
Nape: 597
Lower abdomen and upper pubic areas: 1115


The foregoing are before and after photos in a self explanatory sequence:



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Front top before and at 7 months
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Front Before and At 7 months:
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Right side before and 7 month
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Sides (Full)
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Front (Full)
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S. Umar, M.D., FAAD
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Redondo Beach, California
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Using Head and Body hair

For more SFET-FUE and BHT results go to www.dermhairclinic.com




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coolguy

28.12.2007, 13:31

@ Dr Umar

Joe Scmoe SFET surgery result -7 months

This guy was earlier a patient of Dr Arvind, right?




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marco

U.K,
28.12.2007, 14:21

@ coolguy

Joe Scmoe SFET surgery result -7 months

» This guy was earlier a patient of Dr Arvind, right?


Yes he was and it's worth noting that all of this has been acheived without strip ie FUE scalp and bodyhair only!



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hairtech_

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Minneapolis,MN,
28.12.2007, 19:25

@ marco

Joe Scmoe SFET surgery result -7 months

Is there a before picture to compare?:-)




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hairtech_

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28.12.2007, 19:35

@ hairtech_

Joe Scmoe SFET surgery result -7 months

Oops I see them. :-)




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johnp

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New Jersey,
28.12.2007, 20:38

@ Dr Umar

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

Schmoe, you look great, soft n natural hairline. How many grafts did you have combined counting both Arvind and Umar?



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hairtech_

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Minneapolis,MN,
28.12.2007, 21:43

@ Dr Umar

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

What was the time frame of surgeries between Dr. A and your procedure Dr. U? In other words, how much time separates the procedures?




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Keepitshorter

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28.12.2007, 21:53

@ Dr Umar

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

Once again excellent results from Dr.Umar.

Honest pictures with the same lighting, hair conditions (wet or dry) and head positions showing the before and after results.

Excellent job, excellent results, and I am sure this man is estatic.




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JeepGuy

28.12.2007, 22:09

@ Dr Umar

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

People with light color hair are blessed. I don't think he would look as nearly good if his hair were black.




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marco

U.K,
28.12.2007, 22:23

@ hairtech_

before the before

» Is there a before picture to compare?:-)

before the before.

http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=12&topic_id=32887&mesg_id=32887&listing_type=search



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marco

U.K,
28.12.2007, 22:29

@ hairtech_

after before the before but before the after.

» Is there a before picture to compare?:-)


http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/10-Schmoe



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hairtech_

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Minneapolis,MN,
28.12.2007, 23:03

@ Dr Umar

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

Can you fix the first link Marco? It goes to nothing.




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Keepitshorter

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28.12.2007, 23:29

@ JeepGuy

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

» People with light color hair are blessed. I don't think he would look as
» nearly good if his hair were black.

Dye your hair lighter then.




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marco

U.K,
29.12.2007, 01:02

@ marco

before the before

» » Is there a before picture to compare?:-)
»
» before the before.
»
» http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard-az-show_mesg-forum-12-topic_id-32887-mesg_id-32887-listing_type-search.html


Thanks Hairtec.
This link does not work. go to the second link below and there is a link that says before photos.



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Mr. Frodo

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29.12.2007, 02:48

@ Dr Umar

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

I swear you had a lot of hair already after you went to Dr.A, u feel much difference after the additional 3000 from Dr. Umar? How do u rate the yield between dr A and dr umar ?




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schmoe

29.12.2007, 04:45

@ Mr. Frodo

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

Hey guys;
sorry I haven't chimed in yet, to be honest, I'm no too worried about my hair right now (for the first time in 10 years), so i've been worreid about all the other things in life besides my hair! :-)

I'm gonna try to go down the list of questions here.

First off, THANKS for all the support, as most of us know this is a taxing issue that lingers in our minds for way too long and drains us of valuable thought and energy (and money!)

>>Schmoe, you look great, soft n natural hairline. How many grafts did you >>have combined counting both Arvind and Umar?

thank you! I dont have the EXACT numbers on me, the final tally for Dr. A's is posted in my blog.
3800 roughly with Dr. A, about 1200 of those being body hair I believe.
3200 with Dr. Umar; I believe it was half and half

roughly 7000 grafts total now.


>>What was the time frame of surgeries between Dr. A and your procedure Dr. >>U? In other words, how much time separates the procedures?

Almost 1 year exactly.

>>Once again excellent results from Dr.Umar.
>>Honest pictures with the same lighting, hair conditions (wet or dry) and >>head positions showing the before and after results.

>>Excellent job, excellent results, and I am sure this man is estatic.

I'm VERY happy; the 2nd procedure addressed 2 issues;

A) I had a wall of hair in the front and it came to a halt in the middle.. making it look a bit dramatic. So the middle was filled in. It was ALL pubic and abdomen hair in the middle; I was happy with the results of the body hair.

B) Make the hairline softer and more natural. The devil is in the details, bare in mind when you're looking at the photos, you're seeing a fixed view.. in life and in motion we can start to pick out the details..

look at "Sides(Full)" and "Front(Full)". The temples are that detail, I HAVE a hairline before, but AFTER everything really looks complete and falls together. and it is much softer now. I'm VERY happy with it. As far as I'm concerned my hairline is DONE!! (well.. we'll see.. lol.. we're all hair addicts)

>>People with light color hair are blessed. I don't think he would look as nearly good if his hair were black.

I actually had it bleached platinum for awhile because of this and it looked AWESOME! but i grew bored of it.. I still use stuff like 'sun in' to keep the contrast minimal.

It's true the hair overall is still pretty thin. I will be addressing this in another surgery this coming year. 1500 to fill in the crown, another 500-1000 to fill in the density of the front; it will be mostly beard hair; no scalp.

>>I swear you had a lot of hair already after you went to Dr.A, u feel much difference after the additional 3000 from Dr. Umar? How do u rate the yield between dr A and dr umar ?

this is difficult to answer; you can go through my gallery and maybe decide for yourself as to what you think Dr. A's yield was. The front came out well I wasn't too excited about the results in the back, however It's hard to tell if the survival rate was low OR that the body hair just wasn't robust enough (maybe both); the scalp hair clearly came in very well though.


As far as Dr. Us yield rate go; everything came in well.. the front came in nice and soft, the middle filled up well to be comparable to the front, thus having a much less dramatic transition from frontal scalp to mid scalp.


I DO feel much difference! here's the vain reasoning behind that.. I would see pictures before the surgery with Dr. U and I wanted to throw away most of the pictures, the hairline (although thicker) was MUCH more clearly defined, as opposed to before the surgery, where it was very thin, it was a very natural transition.

This restored the natural transition and I actually see the pictures now and am pretty damn happy with them.




As I said earlier, I'm not done yet. I don't believe HT surgery consists of ONE surgery... its a long road; and I think people should be aware of that when they go for a surgery.. I am WELL aware that my hair is going to continue to thin (yes I'm on meds); so I'm trying to be practical and slowly fill it in with body hair over time to maintain it. Yeah it's not cheap; but if you want cheap you can simply shave your head and move on.. you don't NEED hair.. you WANT hair.

good luck to all, thank you for the support; if you have anymore questions, feel free to ask or just EMAIL me! (schmoe5000 @ hotmail.com)

if you want any ADVICE on your own predicament, I can give you my opinion.. (bare in mind I'm not a professional, just someone who sympathizes VERY MUCH!)

take care!



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stitchmeup

29.12.2007, 05:33

@ schmoe

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

Congrats, I think the hairstyle fits you perfectly. I couldn't tell you have almost 3000 grafts of bh there. You could have told me it's all scalp hair and I would believe you. How about pics of the back? I am curious how short or how long you have to wear your hair in the back.




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Heliboy

Wilmington ,N.C,
29.12.2007, 07:26

@ stitchmeup

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

This is a great hairstyle for Schmoe and shows exactly what bht/scalp combo can accomplish.

19,000 grafts by Dr Umar
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HairSite

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29.12.2007, 07:58

@ schmoe

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

Hi Schmoe:

I am very happy for you. Glad to hear that you are moving on with your life now. It's a long journey to get to where you are now, but I am sure it's all worth it. This is a good success story.

Happy New Year !

Regards,
HairSite.com




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HairSite

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29.12.2007, 09:13

@ marco

after before the before but before the after.

Marco you are so funny LOL !




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hairtech_

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Minneapolis,MN,
29.12.2007, 17:04

@ Dr Umar

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

I think both doctors probably helped. You were right at 1 year between Dr. A and Dr. Umar so if there was any lag from the BHT then it was still coming in.

So IMO you needed both doctors to help your cause. Wow 7000 grafts is a lot... and slightly expensive too.

Anyway good work to both docs.




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HairSite

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30.12.2007, 00:37

@ hairtech_

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

» So IMO you needed both doctors to help your cause. Wow 7000 grafts is a
» lot... and slightly expensive too.
»
» Anyway good work to both docs.

Can you recommend a qualified FUE/BHT doctor that is less expensive?




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hairtech_

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30.12.2007, 01:17

@ HairSite

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

Yes I can. Dr Jones states that he offers BHT at a greatly reduced price and only because in his opinion BHT is so unpredictable that he cannot conscientiously offer BHT as the same as scalp. Still having said that, Dr. Jones offers BHT only for repair cases. Hopefully, if we bitch about it enough, folks in the United States will follow Dr. Jones, Dr. A's and Dr. U's low prices. And when other clinics (the ones that have less success with BHT) drops their prices, then maybe BHT all around will drop.




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abcxyz

30.12.2007, 02:25

@ Dr Umar

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

Very nice, I agree with what some of you folks said, I think his hair color contributes to half the success, fits to a T.




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HairSite

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30.12.2007, 03:03

@ hairtech_

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

» Yes I can. Dr Jones states that he offers BHT at a greatly reduced price
» and only because in his opinion BHT is so unpredictable that he cannot
» conscientiously offer BHT as the same as scalp. Still having said that,
» Dr. Jones offers BHT only for repair cases. Hopefully, if we bitch about
» it enough, folks in the United States will follow Dr. Jones, Dr. A's and
» Dr. U's low prices. And when other clinics (the ones that have less
» success with BHT) drops their prices, then maybe BHT all around will drop.

How much does he charge ?




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hairtech_

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30.12.2007, 03:05

@ Dr Umar

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

I will ask him hairsite. He was adamant about saying he charged less because of unpredictability. Give me a couple of days.




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Heliboy

Wilmington ,N.C,
30.12.2007, 03:23

@ hairtech_

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

Hairtech
You really should have researched this thoroughly before bringing up the price issue .

19,000 grafts by Dr Umar
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marco

U.K,
30.12.2007, 03:33

@ Heliboy

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

» Hairtech
» You really should have researched this thoroughly before bringing up
» the price issue .
»
» 19,000 grafts by Dr Umar
» www.myhairtransformation.com


Also Hairtech, is there any chance at all that you can put replies to a post in the correct place ie below the post you are answering otherwise all people see is a sureal answer without a question. It's not so dificult just click on the post in the thread before you add to the thread. Try it, you might enjoy it:-D



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HairSite

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30.12.2007, 03:36

@ hairtech_

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

» I will ask him hairsite. He was adamant about saying he charged less
» because of unpredictability. Give me a couple of days.

So you don't know. Why then did you remark that Schmoe's FUE/BHT with Dr. Arvind and Dr. Umar was expensive when you could not recommend a qualified FUE/BHT doctor who is less expensive?




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hairtech_

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30.12.2007, 03:56

@ Dr Umar

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

Heliboy, It is what it is... because at $5.00/graft($5.00 being conservative) 7000 grafts is $35,000 and IMO this is pretty expensive for most folks. So when I bring up price, I bring it up so new readers, ghost readers can see that this technology is still somewhat expensive for unpredictability. You guys are rediculus to think otherwise. Who has 35k to spare? Not down playing these results.

Hairsite... Dr. Jones said he charges less than his scalp per graft. I did not ask him at the time. So like I said. I will ask him and then tell you.

Why are any of you guys worried about me bringing up price?

A. You have paid these prices.
B. This site is sponsored by the physicians that charge these prices.

so

C. It is only fair that prices per graft are brought up. Nothing negative here.




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HairSite

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30.12.2007, 04:18

@ hairtech_

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

» Heliboy, It is what it is... because at $5.00/graft($5.00 being
» conservative) 7000 grafts is $35,000 and IMO this is pretty expensive for
» most folks. So when I bring up price, I bring it up so new readers, ghost
» readers can see that this technology is still somewhat expensive for
» unpredictability. You guys are rediculus to think otherwise. Who has 35k
» to spare? Not down playing these results.
»
» Hairsite... Dr. Jones said he charges less than his scalp per graft. I did
» not ask him at the time. So like I said. I will ask him and then tell you.
»
» Why are any of you guys worried about me bringing up price?
»
» A. You have paid these prices.
» B. This site is sponsored by the physicians that charge these prices.
»
» so
»
» C. It is only fair that prices per graft are brought up. Nothing negative
» here.

I am not worried about you or anyone bringing up prices. As a matter of fact, I have a PRICE COMPARISON page in the HT section. Prices are published there for comparison purposes and are updated from time to time.

What I am worried is posters spreading misinformation in the forum. Read your post again. You were insinuating that Schmoe overpaid for his procedures. You made it sound like there is a qualified FUE/BHT doctor out there who is charging less than Dr. Arvind or Dr. Umar. Yet, when I asked you if you can recommend that doctor to us, you couldn't give us a straight answer.




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hairtech_

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Minneapolis,MN,
30.12.2007, 04:24

@ HairSite

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

Well then let's fix this to reflect exactly my opinions.

A. Dr. A and R.Umar both charge pretty good prices for both FUE and BHT to date... also does Dr. Bisanga.

B. I still think that Schmoe and others for that matter pay too much for a procedure that is unpredictable. Period. Luckily they got a good result from BHT. No brainer. And this is not mis-spreadining information. It is giving my opinions and my thoughts, so I have that right. What I believe is mis-information is not telling everything about a procedure, which includes pricing.

C. Dr. Jones charges less per graft than his scalp prices however I do not know exactly what that is but I will find out for you.

So I think we are crystal clear here now aren't we? Mis-leading goes both ways IMO. And so I hope I am dead on for you on my opinions, hairsite.




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Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
30.12.2007, 04:26

@ hairtech_

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

HT,

Question...

If you had any hairloss, say NW4 or above...

How much would you personally pay to get your hair back, Hairtech?

Nothing negative, just curious.

To get one's hair back (and everything that comes with it) for the price of a nice Toyota is well worth it, IMO, (if you can fit it into your budget).

If we could get our hair back for peanuts, that would be great, but an HT is expensive.

Minox is cheap, proscar is cheap, elective surgery is expensive.

And there are no guarantees.

Reality.
:-|



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hairtech_

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Minneapolis,MN,
30.12.2007, 04:30

@ Sofarsogood

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

In today's prices... I would not be able to afford it. So what is your point? Bringing up prices is a fact of life.

If I were looking for a clinic to perform a procedure on me and I am at the financial status that I am currently, I would WANT to know how much it took schmoe to fix his head which was somewhere in the neighborhood of $35,000 plus two airline tickets and hotels... One to India and one to Rodando beach California.




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Heliboy

Wilmington ,N.C,
30.12.2007, 05:26

@ hairtech_

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

Hairtech
It would also be helpful to see links to Dr Jones BHT work when you post his BHT prices. I tried to think if I had ever seen his BHT work since I have been on the forum and dont recall

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hairtech_

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30.12.2007, 05:57

@ Dr Umar

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

I will look around and see if I can find some examples. I did not know much about his work with the exception of him being one of the first guys to do FUE/BHT in North America.




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HairSite

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30.12.2007, 06:24

@ hairtech_

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

» Well then let's fix this to reflect exactly my opinions.
»
» A. Dr. A and R.Umar both charge pretty good prices for both FUE and BHT to
» date... also does Dr. Bisanga.
»
» B. I still think that Schmoe and others for that matter pay too much for a
» procedure that is unpredictable. Period. Luckily they got a good result
» from BHT. No brainer. And this is not mis-spreadining information. It is
» giving my opinions and my thoughts, so I have that right. What I believe
» is mis-information is not telling everything about a procedure, which
» includes pricing.
»
» C. Dr. Jones charges less per graft than his scalp prices however I do not
» know exactly what that is but I will find out for you.
»
» So I think we are crystal clear here now aren't we? Mis-leading goes both
» ways IMO. And so I hope I am dead on for you on my opinions, hairsite.

Next time you may want to get all your facts from Dr. Jones before you start posting as if you know his work very well.

Every person has a different tolerance level. This is Schmoe's thread. It will be up to Schmoe to decide if the procedure was too expensive for him. If you want to vent about HT pricing, you should have started a new thread for that.




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HairSite

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30.12.2007, 06:25

@ hairtech_

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

Hairtech:

How much does Dr. Harris charge for FUE ?




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30.12.2007, 15:25

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Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

» I think both doctors probably helped. You were right at 1 year between Dr.
» A and Dr. Umar so if there was any lag from the BHT then it was still
» coming in.
»
» So IMO you needed both doctors to help your cause. Wow 7000 grafts is a
» lot... and slightly expensive too.
»
» Anyway good work to both docs.

Hairtech,
Am I imagining things or are you insinuating that most of the finished product is a result of Dr A only? It's fairly obvious to me that you don't want to give too much credit to Dr Umar. I don't know why. Personal reasons perhaps?
Listen carefully to what Joe Schmoe clearly states regarding his BHT work, and then tell me which of his two doctors deserves more credit..

Re Dr A - "It's hard to tell if the survival rate was low OR that the body hair just wasn't robust enough (maybe both)"

And regarding Dr U - "As far as Dr. U's yield rates go; everything came in well.. "

Not to mention the following irrefutable comment -

"I would see pictures before the surgery with Dr. U and I wanted to throw away most of the pictures"

I don't know what your beef is with Dr Umar, but it's fairly transparent that you have an agenda against him.
Oh, and PLEASE post a link to one, JUST ONE, of Dr Jones' successful BHT patients. I, and others, are desperate to see his wonderful (and inexpensive) work!

H f H




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30.12.2007, 16:50
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Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

Hairsite,

$8-10/graft is Dr. Harris. He only does BHT after everything is exhausted, the patient is fully aware of unpredictability and he approaches it by implanting 2 BHT's per site. And again threads are for public posting. It is thought provoking and a matter of fact and that is why I bring up price..

Hooray for hair,

You read me wrong. I think both doctors probably contributed to the end result here. It was established that Schmoe was 1 year out from Dr. A when he went to Dr. U. So IMO and this is speculation, both clinics contributed in a positive way. It cannot be confirmed but it cannot be denied, and especially if there was a delay in BHT from Dr. A's procedure.




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Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
30.12.2007, 19:14

@ hairtech_

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

HT,
You are soooooo transparent.
Seriously, we aren't clueless.

Do you really think you are fooling anyone at this point?
You have axes to grind with at least two clinics.

Please realize that this comes through loud and clear.
An occasional compliment doesn't hide your feelings.
Either you do this on purpose, or just can't help yourself.

I'm hoping for choice two.

You are very knowledgeable and are on track to gain some attention from your internet show.

Remember...
"With great power comes great responsibility".

Who said that??? Lol. Oh yeah, Spidy. Lol.
Food for thought.

Peace.
:-P



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JonnyE

30.12.2007, 19:27

@ Sofarsogood

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

» HT,
» You are soooooo transparent.
» Seriously, we aren't clueless.
»
» Do you really think you are fooling anyone at this point?
» You have axes to grind with at least two clinics.
»
» Please realize that this comes through loud and clear.
» An occasional compliment doesn't hide your feelings.
» Either you do this on purpose, or just can't help yourself.
»
» I'm hoping for choice two.
»
» You are very knowledgeable and are on track to gain some attention from
» your internet show.
»
» Remember...
» "With great power comes great responsibility".
»
» Who said that??? Lol. Oh yeah, Spidy. Lol.
» Food for thought.
»
» Peace.
» :-P

Too bad this guy has the scar at the back, i bet if he shaved this right down it would have a very full look.




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hairtech_

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Minneapolis,MN,
30.12.2007, 19:40

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Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

No you are clearly mis-interpreting everything and trying to spin something into negativity about me to make me look bad, and you were probably asked to do so. Frankly I don't care.

If you read my posts concerning this particular thread I merely stated that schmoe got a good result, IMO from both doctors... and then I said as a matter of fact that at $5.00/graft that a 7000 graft transplant procedure is around $35,000.

I never once said that this case was a failure.
I never once said I did not believe this case.
I said a case like this costs X dollars.

Price is part of the procedure.

Stop spinning to make me to be something that I am clearly not.




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Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
30.12.2007, 20:09

@ hairtech_

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

Asked to do so?
Lol.

Just make the claim that Dr. Umar asked me to post.
BTW, it's not true.

This is just a difference of opinion about our feelings toward certain clinics.

I'm just a guy who is lucky to be in one piece after 18 HT procedures from three docs going back to 1992.

You are a NW1 seeking celebrity in the HT world through hosting a "HT internet show".
I do believe you care about patients but have a very specific motivation and have had major drama with a few clinics.

Different perspectives.

That's all.

Ciao.



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At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator
acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case.
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood
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hairtech_

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30.12.2007, 20:20

@ Sofarsogood

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

Everyone is entitled to their opinions... so while my opinion is that you are wrong about celebrity status... you are still entitled to post what you want... just as I am. Happy New Year!

I agree with you. We have different opinions:-)




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Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
30.12.2007, 20:27

@ hairtech_

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

As someone who has chased "celebrity status" my whole life in the entertainment field, I meant that as a matter of fact, not a judgment.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to be "famous", IMO.
That can fuel strong motivation.
As long as you use that fame for good, yes?

HAPPY NEW YEAR to you and yours as well HT.

Onward and upward!
Peace.
:-)



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BHT was used to "soften" my former HT hairline that was made up of larger grafts.
At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator
acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case.
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood
Video of my BHT result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEZb42ZrYs&feature=channel_page


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Minneapolis,MN,
30.12.2007, 20:28

@ Sofarsogood

Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

agreed... cheers.:-)




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schmoe

30.12.2007, 20:59

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Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

lordy.. I leave for ONE day! ;-)

I think there may have been a little confusion regarding the yield results and late growth;

While Dr. A's surgery was integral to where I'm at; Dr. Umar worked in areas untouched by Dr. A (there may have been some slight overlap in the back, I'm not 100%) BUT Dr. Umar did the midscalp that was left untouched by Dr. A at the time along with the very frontal hairline(in front of Dr. A's)

So any growth you see in particular areas would essentially be the result of the Dr. that worked in that area.

Hope that clears up any confusion (if there was any regarding that)



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schmoe

30.12.2007, 22:13

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Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

a few more things..

price.
most of you know that you get a discount for large amounts of grafts by most Dr.s, so generally 'x per graft' doesn't really hold up.

keep that in mind when you're pricing HT; there's many Dr.s that offer discounts for various things (photographed results; paying in cash vs financing etc)

I don't know how at liberty I am to discuss my pricing so I won't.
35k is a bit higher than what I paid though.

You guys also have to keep in mind, it's a process, or journey of sorts; you dont walk into a clinic, drop down 35k on the table and walk out with your Jake Gyllenhaal hair.

set goals for each surgery then set a final goal; decide how much you can work on each time.

some of that linear thinking is comparable to that of a really obese guy walking into a gym thinking he's going to walk out of there looking like nitro from american gladiators

1 year and 8 months later..

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30.12.2007, 22:31

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Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

great points schmoe.




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31.12.2007, 01:16

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Joe Schmoe SFET hair transplant surgery result -7 months

» Hairsite,
»
» $8-10/graft is Dr. Harris. He only does BHT after everything is exhausted,
» the patient is fully aware of unpredictability and he approaches it by
» implanting 2 BHT's per site. And again threads are for public posting. It
» is thought provoking and a matter of fact and that is why I bring up
» price..


$8-$10 per graft?????? Both Dr. Arvind and Dr. Umar average $5 or less per graft for both FUE and BHT. Funny you never once remarked that Dr. Harris is expensive and yet you suggested that Schmoe is overpaying for his procedures with Dr. Arvind and Dr. Umar.

Let me sum this up for you: According to Hairtech, it is well worth it going to Dr. Harris paying $8-$10 per graft. But if someone goes to Dr. Arvind or Dr. Umar and pays $5 or less per graft, then he is overpaying !! Your logic is a bit odd to say the least.

I think you should take your agenda elsewhere.




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