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roger_that

MARYLAND,
15.04.2011, 12:21
 

How is Dr. Gho 'longitudinally transecting' the follicles in HST? (Hair Multiplication & Stem Cells Treatment)

It seems to me there are two ways this can be done:

1) Transect the follicles or FUs while they are still in the scalp. Then leave 1/2 in the donor site, and implant the other half into the recipient site. (In my opinion this would be very difficult, and would require an incredible level of skill even for a good HT surgeon.)

2) Remove the FUs first, transect them in vitro (outside of the scalp), then re-insert one half of the transected follicle or FU back into the original hole. The other half would be implanted in the recipient site. (In my opinion, this would be easier than #1, but would take a lot more time and possibly increase the cost a lot and decrease the effectiveness of the procedure somewhat compared with option #1.)

I don't see that Dr. Gho has mentioned ANYWHERE how he performs this procedure, only that he "longitudinally transects" the follicular units.

I think the answer to this question would shed a lot of light on how effective and possible the HST procedure is.




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Stevie.Dee

15.04.2011, 12:33

@ roger_that

How is Dr. Gho 'longitudinally transecting' the follicles in HST?

Good question but he does it like Number 1

With the correct tool ( small needle) and your hair as guideline "almost" anyone could do this. Just look at Iron.Mans pictures, he showed it pretty good how this actually works and why it wont or lets say is not gonna works so propery with FUE.

If you transect the hair and you do it in a certain angle, you will take more on one side away and less on the other side. Its like if you would could out the middle part of an apple. If you turn the apple a little bit and transect the middle part, you wont extract everything there. Also you can make this fool proof if your needle has somehow a mechanism or stop mechanism that you cant simple extract more then you need.




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roger_that

MARYLAND,
15.04.2011, 12:47

@ Stevie.Dee

How is Dr. Gho 'longitudinally transecting' the follicles in HST?

» If you transect the hair and you do it in a certain angle, you will take
» more on one side away and less on the other side. Its like if you would
» could out the middle part of an apple. If you turn the apple a little bit
» and transect the middle part, you wont extract everything there. Also you
» can make this fool proof if your needle has somehow a mechanism or stop
» mechanism that you cant simple extract more then you need.

Thanks, Stevie.

The method of transection could affect the eventual angle at which the donor hairs protrude from the skin. Which may explain Spanish Dude's observation that some of the hairs in the "after" photo of that case are angled differently than in the "before" photo.

The way I see it, this effect on angling isn't restricted to either method #1 (transection in vivo) or method #2 (transection in vitro). It could take place in EITHER case, because some of the original FU is being removed.

If you cut a tree or any plant longitudinally while still in the ground, I can almost guarantee that the remaining portion would start growing at a different angle than before. Maybe the same is true of hair follicles.




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superhl

15.04.2011, 12:48

@ Stevie.Dee

How is Dr. Gho 'longitudinally transecting' the follicles in HST?

If this works and I hope it does, a robotic device could be developed that could extract and re-implant the follicle precisely eliminating human error and would significantly reduce the cost. However, I am a little skeptical. Where is all media coverage? They grow a little hair on a mouse and it is broadcast on every major outlet. If this works, this would be a solution if not a cure.




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roger_that

MARYLAND,
15.04.2011, 13:17

@ roger_that

Rassman, Gho, and Dr. Christine Mummery

Apparently Dr. Rassman has said that numerous doctors tried something like the Gho HST procedure, but none were able to get it to work. None were able to successfully grow permanent hair at BOTH the donor site and at the recipient site.

I find this categorical statement a bit odd coming from a doctor who seems to be so enthusiastic about ACell, for which we're still waiting for even a shred of evidence that it can grow a single additional hair on anyone's head.

Also, in one of the Dutch videos about Gho, a stem cell scientist, Dr. Christine Mummery of the University of Leiden Medical Center, basically says that Gho's HST procedure is impossible because stem cells only occur at the bulb of the follicle, and if the follicle is transected, those bulb stem cells must be either completely removed or completely left behind, so that a new hair could only grow either at the donor site or at the recipient (implantation) site, but not both.

I don't know how A follows from B. I don't know how she knows this, not being a HT surgeon herself.

Also, apparently she was unaware that other doctors (including Dr. Cotsarelis) have found that hair follicle stem cells exist at places OTHER than the bulb. Gho says they exist up and down along the longitudinal axis of the follicle.

I also think it's very interesting that of all HT surgeons, the one chairing that convention (which according to Spanish Dude imparts the role of "judge and jury" over all the other doctors present) just happened to be Dr. Rassman himself, the one HT surgeon who has set himself up as a sort of "political go-to person" for the brigades of HT industry doctors who are naysayers about any form of HM, or who say HM won't come for a long, long time (like 10+ years).

Maybe Dr. Rassman just used all the political clout and pull he could muster to have himself placed in that position, precisely so he could be regarded as the determinative "judge" over other doctors and their procedures? The position certainly does put him in a great position to criticize HM from a seat of authority.




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Stevie.Dee

15.04.2011, 13:25

@ roger_that

How is Dr. Gho 'longitudinally transecting' the follicles in HST?

» » If you transect the hair and you do it in a certain angle, you will take
» » more on one side away and less on the other side. Its like if you would
» » could out the middle part of an apple. If you turn the apple a little
» bit
» » and transect the middle part, you wont extract everything there. Also
» you
» » can make this fool proof if your needle has somehow a mechanism or stop
» » mechanism that you cant simple extract more then you need.
»
» Thanks, Stevie.
»
» The method of transection could affect the eventual angle at which the
» donor hairs protrude from the skin. Which may explain Spanish Dude's
» observation that some of the hairs in the "after" photo of that case are
» angled differently than in the "before" photo.
»
» The way I see it, this effect on angling isn't restricted to either method
» #1 (transection in vivo) or method #2 (transection in vitro). It could
» take place in EITHER case, because some of the original FU is being
» removed.
»
» If you cut a tree or any plant longitudinally while still in the ground, I
» can almost guarantee that the remaining portion would start growing at a
» different angle than before. Maybe the same is true of hair follicles.

You have a good point and i wont argue with you about that because it seems plausible and it also is another proof for donor regrowing :-) But i believe that the effect of slightly growing in another direction is more or less minimal and not cosmetically significant. Would you agree roger_that.

Yes this could take place in both scenarios thats correct but as you said before the second scenario would be WAY to crazy and time consuming.

Your tree example is in some arguemts correct. Hair follicles are in fact like plants the share the "same" characteristics when it comes to "regeneration and importance of stem cell/ cells in general".

I wont dare to say, that a human heart could regenerate itself if you cut it in half, but when it comes to hairs, i am pretty sure that they will just regenerate themselve because on the honesty level here, visible hairs are dead cells and a byproduct of our follicles. So this means, that the only important thing here are in fact the follicle itself.

And as we all know follicles consists of stem cells. Where stem cells have the ability to fully regenerate themselves into what they supposed to be.

So it should be pretty obvious to anyone, that if you take a small part of those stem cells away and implant them anywhere, the will differentiate into what they are supposed to be in the transplanted area and they will regenerate in what they supposed to be in the extraction area.

To be honest, Ghos methode is not a "miracle" its just plain logical conclusion in refernce to Ockhams Razor.

Where the easiest solution is more likely the real solution. And as you see roger_that, thats why i dont argue about your points, because according to Ockhams Razor they are easy, plausible and maybe the solution to a high percentage.




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Stevie.Dee

15.04.2011, 13:38

@ roger_that

Rassman, Gho, and Dr. Christine Mummery

» Apparently Dr. Rassman has said that numerous doctors tried something like
» the Gho HST procedure, but none were able to get it to work. None were
» able to successfully grow permanent hair at BOTH the donor site and at the
» recipient site.
»
» I find this categorical statement a bit odd coming from a doctor who seems
» to be so enthusiastic about ACell, for which we're still waiting for even a
» shred of evidence that it can grow a single additional hair on anyone's
» head.
»
» Also, in one of the Dutch videos about Gho, a stem cell scientist, Dr.
» Christine Mummery of the University of Leiden Medical Center, basically
» says that Gho's HST procedure is impossible because stem cells only occur
» at the bulb of the follicle, and if the follicle is transected, those bulb
» stem cells must be either completely removed or completely left behind, so
» that a new hair could only grow either at the donor site or at the
» recipient (implantation) site, but not both.
»
» I don't know how A follows from B. I don't know how she knows this, not
» being a HT surgeon herself.
»
» Also, apparently she was unaware that other doctors (including Dr.
» Cotsarelis) have found that hair follicle stem cells exist at places OTHER
» than the bulb. Gho says they exist up and down along the longitudinal axis
» of the follicle.
»
» I also think it's very interesting that of all HT surgeons, the one
» chairing that convention (which according to Spanish Dude imparts the role
» of "judge and jury" over all the other doctors present) just happened to be
» Dr. Rassman himself, the one HT surgeon who has set himself up as a sort of
» "political go-to person" for the brigades of HT industry doctors who are
» naysayers about any form of HM, or who say HM won't come for a long, long
» time (like 10+ years).
»
» Maybe Dr. Rassman just used all the political clout and pull he could
» muster to have himself placed in that position, precisely so he could be
» regarded as the determinative "judge" over other doctors and their
» procedures? The position certainly does put him in a great position to
» criticize HM from a seat of authority.

Nice thinking here again.

Yes i also found it very strange that a HT surgeon is in Favor of Acell but dismisses Ghos technique. I think its because if Ghos technique would be demanded by everyone, standard surgeons would go bancrupt faster then Enron. Also i believe that Dr Rassman doesnt see any threaty by Acell usage and in the end he can say "Acell for woundheling only " instead of using it for Hair multiplication"

This female researcher, well she should have done here homework better, because if only stem cells would be around the bulb area, then we wouldnt even even have the tissue etc and hair transplants in general wouldnt work correctly. Also even in FUE transplants sometimes there is donor regrowth which also contradicts here statements.

And yes i wouldnt trust a surgeon whos money is on hair transplants, if he bashes HM. Because its like when Greenpeace sends out some intern "Nuclear expert" who then told us "Japanese reactors will all blow up because nuclear power is bad"

I wouldnt even believe this person, because this person has an obvious agenda. You can quote me on that roger, the day a HASCI opens up in the states with Ghos technique, you will see the most epic hair industry war you could ever imagine




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bverotti

E-mail

Belgium,
15.04.2011, 13:39

@ Stevie.Dee

How is Dr. Gho 'longitudinally transecting' the follicles in HST?

Here is a recent development:

A user on the Dutch hairloss board went for a consult to find out if hair stemmcells could be used to solve his problem.

He was told that after some number of treatment the donor would be 'finished'. huh?

It would be nice if someone could explain this because everyone knows by now that regular FUE gets about 5000 grafts on mosts donors.

If it means that after 10000 or 15000 grafts the donor would thin out using hair stemmcells, then lets have some proof please.




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Stevie.Dee

15.04.2011, 13:56

@ bverotti

How is Dr. Gho 'longitudinally transecting' the follicles in HST?

» Here is a recent development:
»
» A user on the Dutch hairloss board went for a consult to find out if hair
» stemmcells could be used to solve his problem.
»
» He was told that after some number of treatment the donor would be
» 'finished'. huh?
»
» It would be nice if someone could explain this because everyone knows by
» now that regular FUE gets about 5000 grafts on mosts donors.
»
» If it means that after 10000 or 15000 grafts the donor would thin out using
» hair stemmcells, then lets have some proof please.

Where is the link here to backup this statement? Which board was this question asked and whats the name of this user.

Stem cells DONT depleat themselves they are created all over again in an infinite amount. And what does " After a number of treatments mean?" WHat if you could do 20.000 treatments a 2000 Grafts on each of the three sideas of your donor area? Hmm in my books even that would be amazing.

Secondly its highly impossible to harvest the same exact graft all the time.

Also i dont know what you imply here. If FUE depleates the donor after 5000 anf HST would depleat it after 15.000 hmmm i guess what option i would choose then.

Also i was wondering, wasnt the prohairclinic also involved in this lawsuit against Gho. I found this piece of the part here :

http://www.****lossexperiences.com/view_topic.php?id=1501&forum_id=2 **** = hair

And to me its always funny when other clinic reps come by to "discuss" something advanced ;-)

And the poster in this forum is absolutely right, instead of filing a lawsuit they could just have get together with Gho and co and perform HST today.




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Stevie.Dee

15.04.2011, 14:09

@ Stevie.Dee

How is Dr. Gho 'longitudinally transecting' the follicles in HST?

I found the forum where they discuss this and bverotti is refering to a user who is making assumptions :-) pretty strange. Its also interesting how someone from prohair is always at Ghos heals hmmm




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Spanish Dude

15.04.2011, 14:15

@ roger_that

How is Dr. Gho 'longitudinally transecting' the follicles in HST?

Roger_that, aren't you suppossed to be an expert who is in the forums since a long time ago?
Gho has always bisected the hairs in vivo.
Are you trolling or what?

» It seems to me there are two ways this can be done:
»
» 1) Transect the follicles or FUs while they are still in the scalp. Then
» leave 1/2 in the donor site, and implant the other half into the recipient
» site. (In my opinion this would be very difficult, and would require an
» incredible level of skill even for a good HT surgeon.)
»
» 2) Remove the FUs first, transect them in vitro (outside of the scalp),
» then re-insert one half of the transected follicle or FU back into the
» original hole. The other half would be implanted in the recipient site.
» (In my opinion, this would be easier than #1, but would take a lot more
» time and possibly increase the cost a lot and decrease the effectiveness of
» the procedure somewhat compared with option #1.)
»
» I don't see that Dr. Gho has mentioned ANYWHERE how he performs this
» procedure, only that he "longitudinally transects" the follicular units.
»
» I think the answer to this question would shed a lot of light on how
» effective and possible the HST procedure is.




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Spanish Dude

15.04.2011, 14:24

@ Stevie.Dee

Bverotti didn't trust Spanish Dude, but trusted his lawyer, LOL

Bverotti is from Pro Hair, Belgium.
This is one of the incompetent clinics who complained to the RCC and lost.
(RCC=The dutch Reclame Code Commissie)

I offered help to Bverotti in March 2010, but he ignored many of my emails, he told me that he couldn't talk with me because of his lawyer's instructions.

This is one of my emails to Bverotti:

Subject: one more thing-Spanish Dude
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 00:03:11 +0100

<<<
----, one more thing.

If your lawyer advises you not to trust me, who is at Hairsite for the last 10 years fighting charlatans,
then your lawyer is not very intelligent. Find another one.
Besides, what does your lawyer know about hair cloning? Or about Gho's past? Does he read hair forums much?
Do you think he can handle these topics well?

Of yourse you are taking some **small** risks chatting with me.
But if you don't like risks, why did your clinic sign that manifesto against Gho?
And I am not asking you such extraordinary questions. I don't know why the mistrust.

cheers!-SD
>>>



» I found the forum where they discuss this and bverotti is refering to a
» user who is making assumptions :-) pretty strange. Its also interesting how
» someone from prohair is always at Ghos heals hmmm




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bverotti

E-mail

Belgium,
15.04.2011, 14:53

@ Spanish Dude

Bverotti didn't trust Spanish Dude, but trusted his lawyer, LOL

"Also i dont know what you imply here. If FUE depleates the donor after 5000 anf HST would depleat it after 15.000 hmmm i guess what option i would choose then."

I would choose to get hair stemcell for sure, no doubt.

There is just one catch : there is NO visible evidence/proof whatsoever. Oh, btw if you are going to refer to the scientific paper : its still paper and so far the theory has failed to deliver any results that one could and should expect from a virtual limitless donor.

Here is something to think about.

When we started FUE only back in 2004 people where screaming for results. When we where one of the first clinics to start offering FUE megasessions people where screaming for results. And rightfully so I would add.

Over the years we have PROVEN that FUE works, and also works well using FUE megassions. Our proof is in many patients reports worldwide, photo and Video. I am sorry, but we do no have any proof in form of a study.

So in my case I would go for PROOF in the sense of real live succes stories.




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Spanish Dude

15.04.2011, 15:30

@ bverotti

Bverotti didn't trust Spanish Dude, but trusted his lawyer, LOL

bverotti, how much did you pay to your lawyer? just curious...




» "Also i dont know what you imply here. If FUE depleates the donor after
» 5000 anf HST would depleat it after 15.000 hmmm i guess what option i would
» choose then."
»
» I would choose to get hair stemcell for sure, no doubt.
»
» There is just one catch : there is NO visible evidence/proof whatsoever.
» Oh, btw if you are going to refer to the scientific paper : its still paper
» and so far the theory has failed to deliver any results that one could and
» should expect from a virtual limitless donor.
»
» Here is something to think about.
»
» When we started FUE only back in 2004 people where screaming for results.
» When we where one of the first clinics to start offering FUE megasessions
» people where screaming for results. And rightfully so I would add.
»
» Over the years we have PROVEN that FUE works, and also works well using FUE
» megassions. Our proof is in many patients reports worldwide, photo and
» Video. I am sorry, but we do no have any proof in form of a study.
»
» So in my case I would go for PROOF in the sense of real live succes
» stories.




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Stevie.Dee

15.04.2011, 16:16

@ Spanish Dude

Bverotti didn't trust Spanish Dude, but trusted his lawyer, LOL

@bverotti : Proof? Well how about the scientific paper, the clear onor shots, the science behind it, the bookd out place etc etc.....

First of all, WHY dont you guys try to copy this? Instead of bickering about it hmmm.

Why did prohairclinic actually participate in a lawsuit, well knowing that Gho "DOESNT WORK" so this problem shoild solve itself then, right ;-) But no you persist in participating in a lawsuit, well knwowing " Oh crap if this make its turn we have to fight for every paying customer here" Cause if we pay close attention, both clinics HSI and Prohair seem to be relatively close to each other in terms of possible clients.

So then answer me, why isnt prohairclinic gonna prove or disprove Gho? Makes me wonder. Also i know one thing here for sure, with this lawsuit you destroyed your possible future to licence this HST.

And another thing bverotti, what you did , quoting an average non knowing user from a message board is not a very smart move. Maybe you can pull those stunts at alopezia.de (even there people begin to use their brains now) but you cant pull this stunt here without getting burned

@SPanishDude : Wowo you are more disgusting then i could ever imagine things, you send emails to clinics to suck on a pending and failed lawsuit.

I think both of you guys have made an negative impression on your persona and more.




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GoGiants1

15.04.2011, 16:53

@ roger_that

How is Dr. Gho 'longitudinally transecting' the follicles in HST?

Idk if his procedure is working but Wesley Sneijder is looking pretty good.



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Bullet

15.04.2011, 17:19

@ roger_that

How is Dr. Gho 'longitudinally transecting' the follicles in HST?

» It seems to me there are two ways this can be done:
»
» 1) Transect the follicles or FUs while they are still in the scalp. Then
» leave 1/2 in the donor site, and implant the other half into the recipient
» site. (In my opinion this would be very difficult, and would require an
» incredible level of skill even for a good HT surgeon.)
»
» 2) Remove the FUs first, transect them in vitro (outside of the scalp),
» then re-insert one half of the transected follicle or FU back into the
» original hole. The other half would be implanted in the recipient site.
» (In my opinion, this would be easier than #1, but would take a lot more
» time and possibly increase the cost a lot and decrease the effectiveness of
» the procedure somewhat compared with option #1.)
»
» I don't see that Dr. Gho has mentioned ANYWHERE how he performs this
» procedure, only that he "longitudinally transects" the follicular units.
»
» I think the answer to this question would shed a lot of light on how
» effective and possible the HST procedure is.

I can't believe you still haven't found their youtube channel/videos


BTW, I'm new to the forum. I'm from Spain, but not as annoying as "Spanish Dude"... sorry for that xD




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Spanish Dude

15.04.2011, 18:07

@ Stevie.Dee

Bverotti didn't trust Spanish Dude, but trusted his lawyer, LOL

» @SPanishDude : Wowo you are more disgusting then i could ever imagine
» things, you send emails to clinics to suck on a pending and failed
» lawsuit.»
» I think both of you guys have made an negative impression on your persona
» and more.

wowo?
I wrote Bverotti in MARCH 2010 because Bverotti used to post things against Gho and I wanted more info.
At the time I didn't know that there was a reclamation to the RCC, and Bverotti didn't even told me. He just told me that he couldn't talk with me, because of his lawyer.

But even if I had known about the RCC, whats the problem with me "sending emails to clinics"?

Listen Stevie.Dee, aka Leeroy.Jenkins, aka RichardDawkins, etc, after 13 years of promises I am entitled to email whoever I want, whenever I want, to find out the truth. In the meantime, you will keep filling the forums with useless overblown hopes.




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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
15.04.2011, 19:08

@ Stevie.Dee

depleats?

learn to spell

its deplete




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Stevie.Dee

15.04.2011, 19:42

@ HanginInThere

depleats?

» learn to spell
»
» its deplete

Is that your only concern HanginThere? You should go to th natural regimen sub forum where you can post your bullcrap




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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
15.04.2011, 20:39

@ Stevie.Dee

you guys cant take constructive criticism obviously

» » learn to spell
» »
» » its deplete
»
» Is that your only concern HanginThere? You should go to th natural regimen
» sub forum where you can post your bullcrap

Its not my only concern

its just an observation

you guys keep typing DEPLEAT DEPLEAT

Is it ok then to type HARE LUSS? instead of Hair Loss?

I mean come on?
cant take constructive criticism obviously

is that my only concern? lets get back to that

I am not "concerned" about hair research
all you guys waste all day posting about a fantasy which is what this "research" is at the present time

20 yrs from now you will still be here waiting for 2 yrs right around the corner miracles




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Stevie.Dee

15.04.2011, 20:43

@ HanginInThere

you guys cant take constructive criticism obviously

Yes its absolutely irrelevant because spelling has nothing to do with hair lUss or anything lse, here we talk about Gho and nothing else, so just leave if you dont have anything toppic aroented to tell.

All the people discussing here are far beyond the point where they care about typing errors or stuff like that. We even have a moderate friendly clima here right now. So please spar us with your stuff and shift it to your natural regimen sub forum where people know you and fight with you all the time.

Just let us people discuss in peace here




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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
15.04.2011, 21:05

@ Stevie.Dee

you guys cant take constructive criticism obviously

» Yes its absolutely irrelevant because spelling has nothing to do with hair
» lUss or anything lse, here we talk about Gho and nothing else, so just
» leave if you dont have anything toppic aroented to tell.
»
» All the people discussing here are far beyond the point where they care
» about typing errors or stuff like that. We even have a moderate friendly
» clima here right now. So please spar us with your stuff and shift it to
» your natural regimen sub forum where people know you and fight with you all
» the time.
»
» Just let us people discuss in peace here

If half the board not only cannot spell, they dont even know enough to correct someone on a 5th grade word. That shows the average level of intelligence flinging back and forth their "findings"

Gho? the proven charlatan and liar?

yes continue discussing his ISHRS "findings"

as if ISHRS is a respected medical organization

please tell us the qualifications to join this organization?
This is an organization (board) that certifies Hair transplant surgeons?

LOL

here are the qualifications for acceptance

send in the yearly dues

thats it




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Stevie.Dee

15.04.2011, 21:51

@ HanginInThere

you guys cant take constructive criticism obviously

ISHRS bashed Gho do your homework




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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
15.04.2011, 22:06

@ Stevie.Dee

you guys cant take constructive criticism obviously

» ISHRS bashed Gho do your homework

thats like saying

the local high school chemistry class bashed someone

not exactly newsworthy

ISHRS, why do you guys even discuss that organization?




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Stevie.Dee

15.04.2011, 22:35

@ HanginInThere

you guys cant take constructive criticism obviously

WE dont, you do and now i wont reply to your nonsense any more because you are well known as a troublemaker and troll here




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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
16.04.2011, 04:39

@ Stevie.Dee

you guys cant take constructive criticism obviously

» WE dont, you do and now i wont reply to your nonsense any more because you
» are well known as a troublemaker and troll here

LOL where is here?
the "hair loss Research" board?

they should call it, the DMD board....delusional misinformed and desperate




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