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Pats205

30.04.2011, 15:41
 

Alvi Armani - 3,500 grafts FUE (Hair Transplant)

The patient below had 3,500 grafts Fue with Alvi Armani for zones 1, 2 and 3. The goal of the procedure was to obtain maximum coverage while recreating a natural looking hairline.

The patient is 12 months out in the after photos.

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fastforward

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02.05.2011, 00:09

@ Pats205

Alvi Armani - 3,500 grafts FUE

Can I see pictures showing the top or the crown?




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Freddie555

02.05.2011, 08:36

@ fastforward

Alvi Armani - 3,500 grafts FUE

» Can I see pictures showing the top or the crown?

I have the same request.

Why is it so hard to get HT docs to give an honest top view and crown view.

There really should be standard photo taking guidelines for this industry.




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Reddog

03.05.2011, 04:38

@ Freddie555

Alvi Armani - 3,500 grafts FUE

I agree that another angle is in order. But, it does look pretty damn from that angle...

Not bad for how much ground there was to cover in that transplant.



» » Can I see pictures showing the top or the crown?
»
» I have the same request.
»
» Why is it so hard to get HT docs to give an honest top view and crown view.
»
»
» There really should be standard photo taking guidelines for this industry.



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quarterhead

03.05.2011, 23:08

@ Reddog

idiotic assumptions

the doctors think they cane fool us by showing only frontal photos. it is like showing a facade that they use in hollywood, the front of a town but there's actually no town.

idiotic and retarded



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Stevie.Dee

03.05.2011, 23:16

@ quarterhead

idiotic assumptions

» the doctors think they cane fool us by showing only frontal photos. it is
» like showing a facade that they use in hollywood, the front of a town but
» there's actually no town.
»
» idiotic and retarded

Crown picture we wanna see it




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HairSite

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04.05.2011, 05:42

@ Stevie.Dee

idiotic assumptions

Eric stated very clearly that it was zone 1, 2, 3 that were restored.

Why is everybody asking for the crown pics when nothing was done to the crown?

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Freddie555

04.05.2011, 06:07

@ HairSite

idiotic assumptions

Because we want to see the full result.

I guess the rhetorical question is why the need to HIDE it in the first place?

In real life people see you in 3 dimensions and not 2 dimensions from viewing angles that you specifically select. The objective of a transplant is not just to put hairs into the scalp but to ensure the person actually looks better as a whole and not like a wierdo with a nw1 hairline and an ass bald top & crown. That's where the surgeons aesthetic skill and common sense comes in.

Its surely not unreasonable to ask for an honest view of the person's head before making a decision on whether to shell out thousands upon thousands of dollars for a transplant. For all we know, once we see the top & crown we might conclude he was better off bald.

There is no defence for deceptive marketing. Show us the full head. Nobody is expecting the guy to have hair like Alex Baldwin or Michael J. Fox. Just that he should look normal and better than before in 3D. Otherwise what's the point of having a transplant.

As a simple standard for picture posting, I propose ALL transplants be shown with a :

a) front view
b) left & right view
c) back view
d) crown view
e) top view




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Xairyhay1

06.05.2011, 04:47

@ Freddie555

idiotic assumptions

Well stated! Credibility is earned... earn it! We are educated out here!

The bar has been raised for what passes for truth in hair transplantation. Way too many know the truth about the limitations.

Let's make it real so people considering the process know what to honestly expect through a lifetime... not just the next year or two!




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Eurohair1621

06.05.2011, 05:11

@ Xairyhay1

idiotic assumptions

Hairsite is absolutely right. If you take a look at the scale, it clearly depicts where zones 1, 2, and 3 are. Eric clearly stated that zones 1, 2, and 3 were worked on. Judging by the scale, this is a damn good result. Extremely impressive coverage for 3500 FUE's.




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quarterhead

06.05.2011, 05:57

@ HairSite

I'll tell you why

becasue zone3 also extends to the back a little bit . when u show a pic. from the side, the hairs that are close give the illusion that what's behind is covered. and mind you the photos always make thing lookk better than reality. So it definitely legitimate and a must.
it is about the overall appearence , regardless of the area covered.
i think it is disrespectful



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HairSite

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11.05.2011, 20:46

@ Freddie555

idiotic assumptions

» Because we want to see the full result.
»
» I guess the rhetorical question is why the need to HIDE it in the first
» place?
»
» In real life people see you in 3 dimensions and not 2 dimensions from
» viewing angles that you specifically select. The objective of a transplant
» is not just to put hairs into the scalp but to ensure the person actually
» looks better as a whole and not like a wierdo with a nw1 hairline and an
» ass bald top & crown. That's where the surgeons aesthetic skill and common
» sense comes in.
»
» Its surely not unreasonable to ask for an honest view of the person's head
» before making a decision on whether to shell out thousands upon thousands
» of dollars for a transplant. For all we know, once we see the top & crown
» we might conclude he was better off bald.
»
» There is no defence for deceptive marketing. Show us the full head.
» Nobody is expecting the guy to have hair like Alex Baldwin or Michael J.
» Fox. Just that he should look normal and better than before in 3D.
» Otherwise what's the point of having a transplant.
»
» As a simple standard for picture posting, I propose ALL transplants be
» shown with a :
»
» a) front view
» b) left & right view
» c) back view
» d) crown view
» e) top view

That is fine if you prefer to see the full before and after results even for areas that did not receive any treatment. However, why did you only subject Dr. Armani's results to such scrutiny?

The vast majority of the doctors here only show before and after results of the areas that were treated. How come you have no problem with their posts?




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marco

U.K,
12.05.2011, 11:02

@ HairSite

idiotic assumptions

»
» That is fine if you prefer to see the full before and after results even
» for areas that did not receive any treatment. However, why did you only
» subject Dr. Armani's results to such scrutiny?
»
» The vast majority of the doctors here only show before and after results of
» the areas that were treated. How come you have no problem with their
» posts?

I think that you are right in that there is more suspicion of Armani than other surgeons. The results that he shows are usually very impressive and buck the trend of what can usually be expected from others. He told me that I had 20K available donor hair by FUE since I had 40K donor availability. This may very well be true but it is several times more than others would offer.

The particular issue with this post is that he shows the full extent of baldness in the before and a birds eye view but does not do this in the after. I think that is a little deceptive although I am sure it is not intentional.

I recall a post by robert Jones on this site where he showed a 2K result that gave the impression of complete class V coverage but when a birds eye view came out a year later the coverage and density were actually minimal.

Buyer beware may often be the mantra but it is natural that posters want the full picture. Personally I believe it is best to pick on everyone but preferably in a polite way ...... unless it is ray woods of cause as he more than gives as good as he gets and is quite funny with it ... if not a little nutty with it.



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Dr. Woods

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16.05.2011, 21:44

@ marco

idiotic assumptions

“ nutty with it “

Good God man , do you realise what you have done!!!

Don’t you realise the Nobel Prize Committee constantly scrutinize these forums 24/7 looking for the HT Surgeon to take their place alongside other prestigious alumnii

The fun guys who invented “weapons of mass destruction”
Or genetically created food and Plastic…

“I cooda bin a contenda…!!!!.”

There was gossip around the water cooler that the NOBEL PRIZE committee were lining up to felicitate me with an award……in fact, my plumber spoke to a plumber friend who overheard they were desperate for me to accept..prepared to get down on their knees and beg !!!. And you made the "nutty" remark and put them off. damn ..missed out again …

Dr Ray Woods




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marco

U.K,
16.05.2011, 22:34

@ Dr. Woods

idiotic assumptions

» “ nutty with it “
»
» Good God man , do you realise what you have done!!!
»
» Don’t you realise the Nobel Prize Committee constantly scrutinize these
» forums 24/7 looking for the HT Surgeon to take their place alongside other
» prestigious alumnii
»
» The fun guys who invented “weapons of mass destruction”
» Or genetically created food and Plastic…
»
» “I cooda bin a contenda…!!!!.”
»
» There was gossip around the water cooler that the NOBEL PRIZE committee
» were lining up to felicitate me with an award……in fact, my plumber spoke to
» a plumber friend who overheard they were desperate for me to
» accept..prepared to get down on their knees and beg !!!. And you made the
» "nutty" remark and put them off. damn ..missed out again …
»
» Dr Ray Woods


I rest my case ;-)



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Duck

16.05.2011, 22:39

@ marco

idiotic assumptions

ahh marco i wouldn't take hairloss message boards so seriously. i kinda like the style of posting .:-D And on another note after years did you ever get that ht???? or are you still on the fence about it?




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marco

U.K,
17.05.2011, 11:13

@ Duck

idiotic assumptions

» ahh marco i wouldn't take hairloss message boards so seriously. i kinda
» like the style of posting .:-D And on another note after years did you ever
» get that ht???? or are you still on the fence about it?

I am on the fence but will get off the fence later this year. I will go for a good strip or a hybrid stip/FUE. I have not been on any meds for a few years but spent a good few years on avodart / fin / minox.



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craig

21.05.2011, 19:01

@ Dr. Woods

idiotic assumptions

» “ nutty with it “
»
» Good God man , do you realise what you have done!!!
»
» Don’t you realise the Nobel Prize Committee constantly scrutinize these
» forums 24/7 looking for the HT Surgeon to take their place alongside other
» prestigious alumnii
»
» The fun guys who invented “weapons of mass destruction”
» Or genetically created food and Plastic…
»
» “I cooda bin a contenda…!!!!.”
»
» There was gossip around the water cooler that the NOBEL PRIZE committee
» were lining up to felicitate me with an award……in fact, my plumber spoke to
» a plumber friend who overheard they were desperate for me to
» accept..prepared to get down on their knees and beg !!!. And you made the
» "nutty" remark and put them off. damn ..missed out again …
»
» Dr Ray Woods

That's too funny, why is everybody using the word "felicitate"? some kind of hair transplant lingo?




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ak

29.05.2011, 00:19

@ quarterhead

Objective

In order to be truly objective the after photos should mimic the before photos - same lighting, angle, etc. This isn't the case here, which simply raises suspicion!

I had a transplant from Dr Armani in December 10 and my personal opinion is that the results are less than average. Certainly not the same degree to which I was expecting looking at exactly these types of before/after photos!



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Pats205

29.05.2011, 01:03

@ ak

Objective

» In order to be truly objective the after photos should mimic the before
» photos - same lighting, angle, etc. This isn't the case here, which simply
» raises suspicion!
»
» I had a transplant from Dr Armani in December 10 and my personal opinion is
» that the results are less than average. Certainly not the same degree to
» which I was expecting looking at exactly these types of before/after
» photos!

AK if you had a procedure in December 2010 with Dr. Armani then you are roughly 4 to 5 months post op and at 40-50% growth. You have much much more growth to come. It is way to early to judge your result, you are not even 6 months post op yet!

The full result from any procedure is not noticed until the 12-18 month mark. Any clinic will tell you this.



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