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Iron_Man

25.02.2012, 03:44

@ Iron_Man

The RCC is going to kick Spanish Dud's butt

» [image]
» The latter was Mr. Joling’s aim – simply having more REAL hairs instead of
» always the usage of artificial hair extensions techniques (bonding of
» artificial hairs). That’s all. There is really nothing new!
» They even discussed many years ago on haarweb.nl Mr. Jolings usage of
» hair-extensions …
» http://www.haarweb.nl/forum/showpost.php?p=32357&postcount=10

Oh, just in case you guys don't know what "artificial hair-extensions" is ...
Video 1
http://youtu.be/3HVTyNphp84
Video 2
http://youtu.be/MBOcUcXJbcw
Video 3
http://youtu.be/HWxNi_LguCg

This could be something for you, Spanish Dud.
Oh, I forgot - you can't, because you're completely slick bald! :-D
(there is nothing where they could fix/bond artificial hairs on his head)




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Spanish Dude

25.02.2012, 03:55

@ Iron_Man

The RCC is going to kick Spanish Dud's butt

this is the final result, after the 1st treatment (1500 grafts):
[image]
[image]

as you see, not very spectacular.
And note the "paste texture" ar the front. What is that? volumizer?




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Iron_Man

25.02.2012, 04:12

@ Spanish Dude

The RCC is going to kick Spanish Dud's butt

» And note the "paste texture" ar the front. What is that? volumizer?

Sorry, I'm not Mr. Joling's hairdresser - you should ask him.

Actually, it rather looks like that they made the hairs wet. And if hairs are wet or greasy or oily or fatty - everybody knows that such hairs look more faint/thin than dry hairs. Oh, I forgot, you CAN'T know this! :-D




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moopookoo

25.02.2012, 14:15

@ Iron_Man

How many grafts did joling have all together?

1st procedure 1500 grafts
what abt 2nd?

1500 is not a small number, no FUE can achieve that without dots or gaps

do we have pix of shaved donor after 2nd procedure


gho got FUE docs scratchin their heads

I feel he is legit after all we have seen.




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Spanish Dude

25.02.2012, 15:13

@ Iron_Man

The RCC is going to kick Spanish Dud's butt

» » And note the "paste texture" ar the front. What is that? volumizer?
»
» Sorry, I'm not Mr. Joling's hairdresser - you should ask him.
»
» Actually, it rather looks like that they made the hairs wet. And if hairs
» are wet or greasy or oily or fatty - everybody knows that such hairs look
» more faint/thin than dry hairs. Oh, I forgot, you CAN'T know this! :-D

no, the hairs are not oily, greasy or wet. In the video you can see that, when Gho touches them, they are pretty hardened. It is a fixing liquid or something, to create a front screen of hair. The sorrounding hair is not like that.




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Iron_Man

25.02.2012, 16:02
(edited by Iron_Man, 25.02.2012, 16:27)

@ Spanish Dude

The RCC is going to kick Spanish Dud's butt

» no, the hairs are not oily, greasy or wet. In the video you can see that,
» when Gho touches them, they are pretty hardened. It is a fixing liquid or
» something, to create a front screen of hair. The sorrounding hair is not
» like that.

And what can you see on this photo when you click on it to enlage it?

http://media.nu.nl/m/m1dzlkcaaqry.jpg

Dry, wet, greasy, oily or fatty hair - or a wig?

I can tell you what I can see on this photo after clicking it to enlarge it:

I can see a photo of Mr. Joling after having his 1st HST procedure with

1) his existing hair he had BEFORE his 1st HST procedure;
2) PLUS 1500 HST grafts to thicken up his existing hair.

Here you can see him about 1 week after having his 1st HST procedure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfmqurn11xM&feature=related

Ah, I know, Spanish Dud has never ever seen this video ...
... we talked about 2 years ago already.
In this video (link above) you can actually see Mr. Jolings FINAL RESULT already (existing hairs + 1500 HST grafts), because implanted HST grafts don't fall out just after 1 week (if at all). So you can see practically completely the same what you can see on Dr. Gho's "front page" currently - Mr. Joling's shaved head after having 1 HST procedure. Whereby the latter doesn't matter that much, because another photo, shaved head without having any HST procedure at all, would practically indeed almost look like the same on a photo for any viewer like now with 1500 HST grafts ...
[image]
Mr. Joling is on this photo (before any HST procedure) clearly NOT completely slick bald - his existing hairs in the front area simply weren't dense enough for any acceptable coverage - the latter has been the reason for his usage of so-called hair-extensions. But NOW - he simply don't need them anymore.

@moopookoo - Mr. Joling got 1650 HST grafts in his 2nd procedure for his crown area and just a few grafts in the front area. So all in all so far - 3150 HST grafts.




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Iron_Man

25.02.2012, 18:03

@ Iron_Man

The RCC is going to kick Spanish Dud's butt

» I can see a photo of Mr. Joling after having his 1st HST procedure with
»
» 1) his existing hair he had BEFORE his 1st HST procedure;
» 2) PLUS 1500 HST grafts to thicken up his existing hair.
»
» Here you can see him about 1 week after having his 1st HST
» procedure:
»
» http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfmqurn11xM&feature=related

Sorry - 2 weeks after having his 1st HST procedure ...
[image]




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Spanish Dude

25.02.2012, 22:10

@ Iron_Man

The RCC is going to kick Spanish Dud's butt

You keep failing to understand that you can't compare a shaved head with a non-shaved head. This is the most blatant form of photographic manipulation.

We often complain regarding other doctors, that the lightning is not the same, the hairstyle, etc, but this time, Gho went over the roof!!




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Iron_Man

25.02.2012, 22:40
(edited by Iron_Man, 25.02.2012, 23:01)

@ Spanish Dude

The RCC is going to kick Spanish Dud's butt

» You keep failing to understand that you can't compare a shaved head with a
» non-shaved head.

Why is it all of a sudden "a shaved head" for you?

You started your psychiatric claims with "slick BALD head vs. very hairy head" and suddenly it's "a shaved head"??
And WHO (meaning, which psychiatric loser besides you) says "you can't compare a shaved vs. a hairy head"??

Would there be ANYTHING better for a psychiatric loser like you if they would use one of these 2 real BEFORE photos instead of the shaved ('bald') one??
[image]
Shaved or unshaved ...
would there be ANYTHING better than now on Gho's website?

Feel free to make a photo-montage in the "correct order" so that a loser like you feels better afterwards - and don't forget to send your preferred photo-montage Dr. Gho ... maybe Mr. Joling allows them to publish it. :-D




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moopookoo

26.02.2012, 02:53

@ Spanish Dude

The RCC is going to kick Spanish Dud's butt

» You keep failing to understand that you can't compare a shaved head with a
» non-shaved head. This is the most blatant form of photographic
» manipulation.
»
» We often complain regarding other doctors, that the lightning is not the
» same, the hairstyle, etc, but this time, Gho went over the roof!!

we all know that Ghos marketing sucks, i beleive in his technique that it works as he is not afraid to do high NW celebrities

maybe he shd ve followed conventional standard before/after protocol that everyone else is using, it would be easier for ppl to understand. its not misleading but its rather confusing,

on the other hand if you go through videos you ll see its all looking good.
his shaved donor looks untouched after 1500, im happy with that and thats all we shd care abt




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needhairasap

26.02.2012, 05:15

@ Spanish Dude

The RCC is going to kick Spanish Dud's butt

» You keep failing to understand that you can't compare a shaved head with a
» non-shaved head. This is the most blatant form of photographic
» manipulation.
»
» We often complain regarding other doctors, that the lightning is not the
» same, the hairstyle, etc, but this time, Gho went over the roof!!


the debate is over... you really need to give up on it. I'm starting to agree with Ironman that you may be mental. You're so desperate to rationalize your argument(s), even in the face of piles of contrary evidence. It's sad....




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Iron_Man

26.02.2012, 16:01

@ needhairasap

The RCC is going to kick Spanish Dud's butt

» the debate is over...

No, because Spanish Dud’s new incrimination is …

» You keep failing to understand that you can't compare a shaved head
» with a non-shaved head. This is the most blatant form of photographic
» manipulation.
[image]
As you can see Spanish Dud – even reputable TV stations and TV moderators can do this!!

Watch this Video in full screen mode:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktSdKPFUeaU




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Spanish Dude

27.02.2012, 02:48

@ needhairasap

The RCC is going to kick Spanish Dud's butt

» the debate is over... you really need to give up on it. I'm starting to
» agree with Ironman that you may be mental. You're so desperate to
» rationalize your argument(s), even in the face of piles of contrary
» evidence. It's sad....


no, you are not "starting to agree" with Iron_Man. You are both trolling for Gho from the very beginning.




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Iron_Man

27.02.2012, 11:09

@ Spanish Dude

The RCC is going to kick Spanish Dud's butt

» You are both trolling for Gho from the very beginning.

Exactly …
[image]
Proof: http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-90378.html

… because without the trolls,
nobody would Spanish Dud, the imbecile, show the way to the truth – as well as correcting his imbecility.

So what part of your own words don't you understand??




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Hair Science Institute

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27.02.2012, 13:20

@ Spanish Dude

Response from Hair Science Institute

Dear Hair Site readers,

We have noted the accusation that the 'before' and 'after' photos of Gerard Joling (GJ) on our website were in fact 'after' and 'before' photos -in other words with hair before treatment and without hair after treatment. This is actually true; however...

9 november 2009
GJ received his first treatment at our clinic in Maastricht(Netherlands): 1500 grafts were transplanted to the hairline and front. During that treatment, photos were taken. However, as agreed with GJ and his management, these were not to be used by HSI for publicity purposes. So our website shows only two photos before treatment of an unshaven GJ: see the bottom news item in NEWS/FILE: GERARD JOLING.

However, in all the PDFs and videos made by third parties it can be clearly seen what GJ looked like: shaven. And that is also how he looked immediately before and after the second treatment in July 2011.

11 July 2011
GJ reveided his second treatment. This time for his crown which had also thinned due to natural hair loss. Again, photos were taken: both with hair before the treatment and shaven during and after the treatment. These photos we were allowed to use in our communication.

The photo with hair is therefore in fact an 'after' photo of the result over a year and a half after his initial treatment!

The photo of the shaven GJ was therefore indeed taken during the second treatment, but: 'before' photos of GJ before his initial treatment looked exactly the same, but, as agreed, we were not allowed to use them.

The crux
So what we showed is a photo of GJ with a shaved head. Whether that photo was taken in 2009 or in 2011 effectively makes no difference: the shaven GJ of 2009 looks exactly like the shaven GJ of 2011. But the photo with hair definitely is a photo after treatment!

We can imagine that the use of the two images may have caused some misunderstanding. However, before rushing to accuse someone of false advertising, it is wise to first ask that party for their version of events. Even if you want to remain anonymous, we will be pleased to answer your questions - questions like these in particular!

Finally: Gerard Joling is a pop artist and performer who is famous in The Netherlands. He would never allow himself to be used for the kind of con-trick suggested. If he did, he would cause himself irreparable damage. That fact alone should have provided a clue that perhaps something else was going on.

Yours sincerely,
Management and Team of Hair Science Institute




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27.02.2012, 17:46

@ Hair Science Institute

Response from Hair Science Institute

Thank you Hair Science Institute for taking the time to offer your explanation on the subject matter.

Case closed. No further discussion allowed on the topic.

Thanks.




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