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To Joe Tillman (Hair Transplant)

posted by JoeTillman, Vancouver, BC Canada, 25.05.2016, 20:31


I'm not sure what part of "Dr. Cole promised a refund and then reneged." you don't understand. The below definition is from Merriam-Webster online.

Renege - to go back on a promise or commitment

What Arfy refused or did not refuse is irrelevant. This was part of his negotiation. Such is the nature of every negotiation in any aspect of life. Offers are made, offers are refused, you move on to the next round in an attempt to find common ground and agreement. Dr. Cole ended the negotiation entirely ( per Arfy's quote above ) and closed the door to further discussion. It is already in the record so why are you debating this? Good for Arfy for fighting for what he feels he deserves but it has nothing to do with what Dr. Woods was talking about. What does have to do with this is that the consent forms that Arfy signed did not prevent him from speaking up.

"But it did prevent him from speaking for 8 years. You are arguing over a technicality. I do not believe you have read every informed consent form, from every Doctor, neither have I. Therefore Its reasonable to assume the thirty page ones from LA doctors are more legally binding than the 2 page ones from Europe each carry different levels of protection."

I'm not debating over a technicality. It is the basis for this entire discussion. Dr. Woods specifically stated, and has so for years, that by signing an informed consent form that doctors are automatically given the right, and they exercise this right, to sue an unhappy patient for going online and saying they are unhappy.

These are his quotes in this very thread...

"So the patient will be located and told...". Hey were well aware things could go horribly signed those 15 pages of apple like clauses and went into this with full disclosure and knowledge...and unfortunately for you, things went seriously wrong......very very sad...but don't blame me or damage my reputation or practice by your unfortunate story or I am legally entitled to sue for defamation and financial loss to my business...."

"So sure, feel free to divulge, but expect a legal response with defamation and financial compensation demands"

"In other words, the patient went in with full knowledge and disclosure that a disaster may dont blame the doctor.
And if you do, he is in his legal right to sue you for defamation and damages to reputation/income etc."

"There may not be a specific gag order, but if you talk, they, you don't talk, hence..gag"

This is, and has been from the start, the focus of my challenge to Dr. Woods and is what I have disputed with direct evidence to the contrary so please stop trying to derail the point of this thread with more irrelevant information.

"The state of New South Wales does not currently require informed consent from hair transplant physicians however most of Doctor Woods associates use them whilst he does not, why do they use them if they do not have to?"

Incorrect. Informed consent is a requirement in every state of Australia.

"Review of State and Territory Legislation
Informed consent to medical treatment

10.48 ‘Informed consent’ refers to consent to medical treatment and the requirement to warn of material risk prior to treatment. As part of their duty of care, health professionals must provide such information as is necessary for the patient to give consent to treatment, including information on all material risks of the proposed treatment."

The six other hair transplant clinics in NSW (as listed at provide informed consent because it is part of the basics of medical ethics, as is the case in most parts of the world, and they are required to on the state and federal level. In many medical jurisdictions, if a doctor performs surgery on a (mentally) competent adult without informing them of potential complications or side effects then the doctor is not only contradicting basic medical ethics and breaking the law, he is open to criminal charges of battery.

I think what you are specifically referring to is SIGNED informed consent. THIS Is what is in question. Australian federal law does require a signature for invasive surgeries and it is left up to each state to determine this requirement and what constitutes "invasive". In Western Australia, signed forms acknowledging informed consent are required for any procedure requiring local, regional or general anaesthesia.

"It is Department of Health policy that consent for treatment is obtained in writing, using an approved consent form for all surgical operations, and for all medical anesthetic, radiology or oncology procedures.

Written consent must also be obtained for:

surgical, medical, radiology, oncology and endoscopy treatments/procedures requiring:
local anaesthesia"

FUE would qualify as requiring signed informed consent forms because it is both surgical and medical and it also requires local anaesthesia.

With regards to the state that Dr. Woods operates in, the specifics are more vague and is what I'm waiting to hear back on from the Australian Medical Council. I think the question may be one of invasiveness because FUE may not be considered invasive enough and it may also be one of pain management requirements.

But let's not kid ourselves here. When Dr. Woods is talking about how he doesn't require legal forms compared to his colleagues, he's not talking about the six other clinics in NSW. He's talking about North America, Europe and everywhere else.

JoeTillman is located in VANCOUVER, BC CANADA and he is available to meet: YES
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Joe Tillman
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Hair Transplant Mentor™

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- Dr. Emorane Lupanzula, Brussels Belgium
- Dr. Bernard Arocha, Houston Texas
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- Beauty Medical, Milan Italy

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