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To Joe Tillman (Hair Transplant)

posted by JoeTillman, Vancouver, BC Canada, 28.05.2016, 00:36

"I never said that Arfy used this term. I said this, as it is my opinion.

I will not allow you, to try to ram yours down my throat!"

But that's the crux. It is not my opinion, it was Arfy's, as stated in this thread and you are putting up your opinion against Arfy's opinion regarding Arfy's own experience. That doesn't make sense.

"Please explain your comments ` I am behind a keyboard` what does this mean?"

It means I don't know you personally so you shouldn't be taking anything I say as being personal but you appear to be taking it personally because of your smart and sarcastic remarks toward me.

"You are done `discussing this with me`

Well you would be because you are wrong, and that is what internet bullies do when they are proven wrong, they spit the dummy out of the pram AND LEAVE"

Ok. Thank you for your opinion.

On the BALANCE OF PROBABILITIES I am assuming Marcos PRE CONSENT SURGICAL FORM gagged him from speaking anymore, if you think any different then
YOU also are assuming, as YOU YOURSELF do not know either, YOU yourself have NO PROOF to the contrary! Therefore please explain why my assumptions are irresponsible but yours are not?

I agree, you are assuming but I am not as I've presented evidence to support my position and the law regarding informed consent is the same in Canada as it is in the US. What is also not an assumption, and is a fact, is that informed consent forms do not act as gag orders which is what the point of this discussion has been from the start. The email I presented directly, specifically and completely invalidates the claim that informed consent forms are, by default, "gag orders". This is not deflection, it is the very core of the discussion.

The rest of your post is far too long to quote/argue so I'll summarize here. Informed consent is the law. Period. That is the case in the US, Canada, the EU, the UK as well as Australia. It is designed for one purpose; to allow patients to make decisions about their own bodies based on the idea that it is a basic human right to know what may be the rewards of the decision to have surgery as well as what may be the consequences of the decision to have surgery. The idea, that by signing a form acknowledging informed consent, somehow gives a doctor automatic rights to sue a patient for expressing their opinion about their own experience and results is ludicrous, whether it be for hair transplant surgery or having a tooth removed by a dentist. An informed consent form cannot supersede the 1st Amendment rights to free speech by a patient (in the US). What happens AFTER a procedure comes up short is another story altogether and is completely unrelated to the subject. You brought it up early in this thread and you are trying to bring it up now but as I said from the beginning, they are two separate issues and are unrelated.

Dr. Woods has made a claim. I challenged the claim and I've done so with facts that are verified by examples I've provided. Dr. Woods instead talked about reality television, mocked me, and called me names. In other words, he avoided the questions. You decided to get involved and you want to present your opinions as facts and your assumptions as proof and talk about subject matter that is unrelated to the topic at hand. You too wish to be personal and snarky about the issue but I'm not going to do the same in kind. It serves no constructive purpose and distracts from the points. And to be clear on this, I'm not expecting you to agree with me on any of these points and I'm not expecting you to concede anything. You absolutely are entitled to your opinion, as am I. I've presented multiple examples and references to support my position which is all I can really do.

What the readers should take away from this is that if they do have surgery the informed consent form will not take away any of their rights and it will not remove any barriers to putting them in legal trouble. In the unlikely event that there is some sort of pre-surgical non-disclosure form that specifically states you cannot talk about your upcoming surgery or results then put the form down and walk out. The first is for your safety and is required by law before surgery can commence. The second is not required and is not for your safety.

More to come as I follow the trail started by the email I received today from the Australian Medical Council.

JoeTillman is located in VANCOUVER, BC CANADA and he is available to meet: YES
email to arrange a meeting.

Joe Tillman
aka "Jotronic"
Hair Transplant Mentorâ„¢

My Affiliations:
- Dr. Jerry Cooley, Charlotte NC USA
- Dr. Emorane Lupanzula, Brussels Belgium
- Dr. Bernard Arocha, Houston Texas
- Dr. Ron Shapiro
- Beauty Medical, Milan Italy

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